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Title: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 08, 2014, 06:53:58 PM
It begins.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 08, 2014, 06:55:58 PM
the hype is real
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 08, 2014, 06:58:14 PM
How do we go about getting an antagonist approved?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 08, 2014, 07:10:18 PM
Little fix on the sheet template. Divine isn't part of the scale anymore, I forgot to remove that. Since Godlike (for physical attributes) and Divine (magic) are broken and of course we ain't gonna take those characters.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 08, 2014, 07:30:55 PM
Yeah Divine's been nixed.

How do we go about getting an antagonist approved?

PM me the sheet and a summary of what you want to do with them.

I'm only allowing so many so the sooner the better.

When we get a few characters up we can start the game.

Also, if anyone wants to Archive CE 2 please do. 
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 08, 2014, 07:47:48 PM
What rank would a servant be, in general? I'm guessing Superhuman or Legendary, but I'm not sure which.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 08, 2014, 07:49:28 PM
If I send Mordred in few hours will she be ready for tomorrow?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 08, 2014, 07:52:02 PM
What rank would a servant be, in general? I'm guessing Superhuman or Legendary, but I'm not sure which.

I'd say a combination of Supernatural/Superhuman with some Legendary.

If I send Mordred in few hours will she be ready for tomorrow?

Should be yes.  Pretty soon I'm going to have to log off and get ready.  I have a IRL session of D&D tonight.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 08, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
Cool. Have fun with session.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 08, 2014, 08:12:20 PM
What rank would a servant be, in general? I'm guessing Superhuman or Legendary, but I'm not sure which.

IMHO, E-D-C Supernatural, C-B-A Superhuman, or A-A+ Legendary. It's not like the CE stats are a match for Servant ones, so margin of error there. But Elf's the GM, so she's the one who calls the shots.

And Nasu's stats are far from always agreeing with the narrative, but that's another thing.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 08, 2014, 10:25:40 PM
One request though, could you hold with RPing Max until I finish Deborah and get her approved? I believe that we talked about her tagging along.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 08, 2014, 11:50:13 PM
Also, if anyone wants to Archive CE 2 please do.
Done. :) Also, rules and sheet template threads locked so no one posts in them by accident. ...Now to read the rest of the thread thus far, blame me being sorta groggy.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 09, 2014, 10:03:36 AM
Unintentional double post.

Finally! First sheet up!

...I always end up hating Tom's sheet whenever I write it up it even if it's hypothetically fine because it comes off as both sue-ish and edgy to me. Unfortunately I've found he's one of those characters you have to convey through proper execution, not through description, because the description by itself seems kinda dumb.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 09, 2014, 10:54:26 AM
Added Supernatural Tolerance to Mordred's sheet at Max's level, since her Wyrd is at 4 while his Blood Potency 3.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 09, 2014, 11:31:06 AM
Posted character sheets again.

"Cool story, bro" time, ahoy.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on November 09, 2014, 12:58:54 PM
I made an addition to Lancelot's sheet, Elf. I got a bit carried away with it though.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 09, 2014, 01:46:40 PM
I hope we don't catch attention of certain user :(
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 09, 2014, 02:11:48 PM
Considering it's the only active part of the forum, he'll probably notice.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 09, 2014, 02:15:27 PM
Sweet Mother of Jesus :(
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 09, 2014, 02:17:16 PM
He wouldn't be allowed to meme or pun in rp posts, at least.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 09, 2014, 08:20:22 PM
I need to get Saber's sheet up and approvals up.

Pretty much everyone's been approved.

Even though a lot of the WoD stuff goes over my head.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 09, 2014, 08:24:46 PM
Mordred approved? Yolf, BTW, said sheet's fine as he checked it for me.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 09, 2014, 08:38:56 PM
When you say everyone do you also mean antagonists?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 09, 2014, 08:49:13 PM
Yeah, it's good to clarify for those who submitted them :)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 10, 2014, 03:01:29 AM
I'm going to get to the antagonists pretty soon. 

I think for the people doing true antagonists, it would be good to have their sheets hidden for the time being.  Adds a bit of Mystery.

Alice, before you freak, Tom's okay because he'll probably be redeemed.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 10, 2014, 03:13:44 AM
Are we getting another map for the Nexus?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 10, 2014, 03:17:24 AM
Just as a note, if your character interacts with Rebeca I would appreciate it if you put a blurb during dialog to explain their thoughts, or just their thoughts for that matter.

It makes it better then me vaguely referring to what they might be thinking which I got information about from the post.
 
Thanks in advance if ya do it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 10, 2014, 08:05:56 AM
No problem.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 10, 2014, 08:34:47 AM
I'm going to get to the antagonists pretty soon. 

I think for the people doing true antagonists, it would be good to have their sheets hidden for the time being.  Adds a bit of Mystery.

Alice, before you freak, Tom's okay because he'll probably be redeemed.
Nah, I wouldn'tve freaked. This cements Tom's position as the odd antagonist/PC hybrid that he is though, which is about how I expected him to be after learning he occupies a normal slot. Which isn't a bad thing, just means I have to make sure to play him well. I'd expect him to have some visibility in the Nexus beyond his true identity anyway, due to running a major company. ...Now if only I actually liked his sheet, I never like his sheet.  :-\
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 10, 2014, 08:45:30 AM
So, will the approved characters thread update soon? I'm not sure if should I submit more sheets until I see Mordred accepted, I don't want to potentially burden Elf with more reading before she is done with what have been already posted.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 10, 2014, 10:02:19 AM
It might be updated sometime tomorrow, actually.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 10, 2014, 10:27:27 AM
Okay.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 10, 2014, 06:58:27 PM
So Mike, out of curiosity, who are the 5 characters you want to bring in anyway.

I know Rider, Kyoshi (might have spelled name wrong), Sakura, and Shirou.

But who is the other?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 10, 2014, 07:03:41 PM
Aoi, I guess?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 10, 2014, 07:10:41 PM
Aoi, Rider, Sakura, and Shirou, I think
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 10, 2014, 07:38:56 PM
Yeah, aside from Sakura, Shirou, Rider and Kiyoshi, I also want to bring in Aoi, Sakura and Shirou's eldest daughter.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 10, 2014, 07:50:02 PM
Could you just not bring one of them? Are they really all necessary?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 10, 2014, 07:52:34 PM
Could you just not bring one of them? Are they really all necessary?
They are to his happy family stuff.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 10, 2014, 08:08:26 PM
Could you just not bring one of them? Are they really all necessary?

I could, yes, but I like playing Rider, I like Aoi as a character (because she's actually one I made myself) and Sakura and Shirou are fairly fundamental to the whole thing. I could drop Kiyoshi, but I do like him and, further, he's important to justify why Sakura, Aoi and Shirou arrive later on. Plus, he and Rider are the ones I can most easily make a sheet for.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 10, 2014, 08:14:29 PM
Justify?

Why does it need to be justified. Just have them be dragged into the nexus like Kiyoshi and Rider were due to the same anomaly happening again.

Just leave Shirou, cause really it would be interesting to see Kiyoshi trying to find another male role model while he is separated from his father. And honestly? Happy families do not need to be together for everything.

The fact that Sakura, Aoi, and Kiyoshi, despite being separated from Shirou, want nothing more to see him again. This unwavering conviction could bring them together to be closer then they ever would have been before, in ways that are not possible for them to in the world where they are all together and so might take each others presence for granted (more in the case of the kids, cause Sakura most definitely does not after HF happened).

Cause trust me, kids take their parents for granted if they group up in a happy family, and when they are separated due to something outside their power to control it makes them realize just what they have.. Trust me, I talk from personal experience in this matter, and it will make them nothing if not stronger.

It would make the family bonds stronger and ever the more potent.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 10, 2014, 08:26:11 PM
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Yeah, aside from Sakura, Shirou, Rider and Kiyoshi, I also want to bring in Aoi, Sakura and Shirou's eldest daughter.

That's SEVEN.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 10, 2014, 08:28:00 PM
Its 5 Kat.

Aoi is Sakura and Shirou's daughter. There is not another set of Sakura and Shirou.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 10, 2014, 08:29:12 PM
Justify?

Why does it need to be justified. Just have them be dragged into the nexus like Kiyoshi and Rider were due to the same anomaly happening again.

Well, the problem is that I don't have sheets for them all yet, plus I like the idea of sending them separately for Rider-related reasons. But, sending them twice seems really odd, especially when they're looking to get there for the benefit of finding Kiyoshi.

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Just leave Shirou, cause really it would be interesting to see Kiyoshi trying to find another male role model while he is separated from his father. And honestly? Happy families do not need to be together for everything.

The fact that Sakura, Aoi, and Kiyoshi, despite being separated from Shirou, want nothing more to see him again. This unwavering conviction could bring them together to be closer then they ever would have been before, in ways that are not possible for them to in the world where they are all together and so might take each others presence for granted (more in the case of the kids, cause Sakura most definitely does not after HF happened).

Cause trust me, kids take their parents for granted if they group up in a happy family, and when they are separated due to something outside their power to control it makes them realize just what they have.. Trust me, I talk from personal experience in this matter, and it will make them nothing if not stronger.

It would make the family bonds stronger and ever the more potent.

Too depressing, honestly. They need to get home ASAP, and can't do anything other than look for a way to get home. Which is not easy to find, and without preparation may not even be possible.

Plus, Kiyoshi doesn't need another "male role model". He has plenty of female ones around him....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 10, 2014, 08:34:49 PM
A young boy needs a male role model man. And honestly Shirou is not the best one cause Shirou has issues. And if we can't agree on that you probably don't really know Shirou's character all that well.

Him having female role models does not really help him when he is a, you know, guy and should probably learn things about being a guy from another guy.

Also, they also need to find help, find a safe place to stay, and other things. Spending every waking hour trying to get out of the nexus is just going to kill them cause of what is in the city.

It is more realistic they will be trying to find a way home yes, but also while trying to get a life of some kind structured in case it takes a while.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 10, 2014, 09:03:45 PM
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Its 5 Kat.

Aoi is Sakura and Shirou's daughter. There is not another set of Sakura and Shirou.

I guess I'm just tired, lol.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 10, 2014, 09:33:40 PM
A young boy needs a male role model man. And honestly Shirou is not the best one cause Shirou has issues. And if we can't agree on that you probably don't really know Shirou's character all that well.

Him having female role models does not really help him when he is a, you know, guy and should probably learn things about being a guy from another guy.

I don't get what you mean, honestly. I don't see how Shirou can't fill that role.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 10, 2014, 09:54:08 PM
Cause Shirou is not right in the head? Also he is his dad, boys like their dad and all but they are still parents before they are friends. And a role model, or just a 'guy friend' would be interesting for Kiyoshi and how he would act on it.

But anyway that was not the point. What I am saying is that Shirou is the least necessary for an interesting dynamic and will also let you get an interesting RP experience out Kiyoshi's interactions with others. Not even approaching how Sakura and Aoi would approach the situation.

You only have 4 slots, so you need to make a call. And honestly, Shirou is the one that brings the less amount of stuff to the RP while causing interesting things for your other choices of characters with his absence.

Also, you do not need to change the sheets much from what you have already written, just alter the stats a little and make sure they have actual weaknesses, it should not take that long since you already have Kiyoshi and Rider done, and Sakura and Shirou as well from 1.0. Not sure about Aoi but didn't you make a sheet for her then to?

Sheets should not take you as long as you make them out to be.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 10, 2014, 09:55:56 PM
I don't think Aoi even has a sheet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 10, 2014, 09:58:56 PM
Know what I just realised?

If Rebeca does Deep Reading on Shirou she would probably see UBWs.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 10, 2014, 10:05:59 PM
Would she detect the metaphorical Beast roiling inside a vampire?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 10, 2014, 10:10:40 PM
Depends on how deep she goes.

She can, but she might just not do it for long enough to get that deep into their subconsciousness.

Also she might not come out unscathed from it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 10, 2014, 10:23:15 PM
So if the character development comes to pass would it be possible to convert a regular player character into a villain one with GM consent?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 10, 2014, 10:40:52 PM
Aside from the "no-killing without consent" rule and the extra slot, I don't think there's much difference between the two. I think the only thing you'd need approval for is if you wanted to take an extra character on top of your usual four.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 10, 2014, 10:45:13 PM
You have to get consent to play a villain/antagonist character, and based on how Tom was categorized, whether they can occupy the antagonist slot or not depends on their redeemability. Basically, I would talk to Elf directly about it, since how things work for antagonists is a bit different in terms of approval stuff even if they play similarly to any normal character.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 10, 2014, 10:45:36 PM
No, its an Antagonist Slot, meaning it is an actual antagonists that acts against player characters.

So it is very different.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 10, 2014, 10:49:09 PM
Basically. Which is why the rules for approval are different, because it's easy to try and abuse that role, which is why Elf has to be more selective with who gets to fill that slot. It's also why a character in the antagonist slot can also be killed without permission, albeit within reason.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 10, 2014, 11:57:27 PM
You have to get consent to play a villain/antagonist character, and based on how Tom was categorized, whether they can occupy the antagonist slot or not depends on their redeemability. Basically, I would talk to Elf directly about it, since how things work for antagonists is a bit different in terms of approval stuff even if they play similarly to any normal character.

So, we're not allowed to play evil characters without specific consent from Elf?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 11, 2014, 12:06:36 AM
Evil =/= Antagonist

An Antagonist would be a force in which for PCs to organize and act against, basically each Antagonist is like an individual plot to deal with. Which is why Elf is controlling how many and what PCs are Antagonists.

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 11, 2014, 12:19:33 AM
My Vampire is not necessarily good, as her faith in God is twisted, but not an antagonist.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kurogami on November 11, 2014, 01:28:31 AM
I have returned from the abyss. The abyss says hi, by the way. Hmm, characters...

Shameless self-insert Dovahkiin (Easy to scale to whatever I want it to, and I can't be accused of OOC.)

No, before anyone asks, none of the stats are legendary.

For an antagonist...

A Particular Black Mage

Haven't put much thought into any others.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 11, 2014, 01:33:59 AM
Evil =/= Antagonist

An Antagonist would be a force in which for PCs to organize and act against, basically each Antagonist is like an individual plot to deal with. Which is why Elf is controlling how many and what PCs are Antagonists.
To add to this, I'll again use Tom as an example (sorry for this :( ). He would again, normally be in my antagonist slot, but since he has the potential to actually switch sides and work with any other PCs instead of against them all, he's in a regular slot. His alignment is actually true neutral either way.

So like Knick said, you can have an antagonist that is actually Chaotic Good and a regular PC that's Lawful Evil. It has to do with their role rather than alignment. Though it's likely that most antagonists will lean towards the evil side of things, but it's not a requirement, just a trend.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 11, 2014, 02:00:20 AM
Well, an antagonist who is Chaotic Good is likely to be redeemable, I would imagine. Shirou, Sakura etc. would certainly have issues with killing such a person. But, surely there will be conflict between non-antagonist characters as well (Tom being an example of that). What is the distinction here?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 11, 2014, 02:05:56 AM
Antagonists EXIST for creating conflict and being a driving force of some kind.

Anything else they bring is extra.

It is their purpose. To cause conflict and force action.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 11, 2014, 05:59:21 AM
Bdoom, fix the scaling on Sakura and put her weaknesses in the sheet too. Expand on mephistopheles in Faust's sheet as well. He's just kind of there and super vaguely strong.

Also, erase the stuff about scaling you copypasted from the sheet template and just left in faust's sheet for some reason.

Kat I'll want to talk to you about some of Mordred's 101 abilities, nothing srs but stuff I want to clarify before approving.

Some characters have now been approved and put in the list, will do more when it's not 1am.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 11, 2014, 11:36:49 AM
You mean, you Nachos or Elf want to talk? Because in case of Elf she should get on Skype much earlier than my 4 AM, I cannot afford to stay that long today.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 11, 2014, 12:14:20 PM
OK, only Lord's Dread Gaze can harm Vampires.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 11, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
Alright cool

Also if you use one of Mordred's gorillion abilities on/at someone in a manner that actually affects them, please point out which one it is in here(or IC, depending on how often mordred lists her abilities in full name) so people can just ctrl+f it on your sheet.

approved
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 11, 2014, 04:42:57 PM
I planned that from the beginning, Nachos.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 11, 2014, 05:13:35 PM
If any doubts with Tar's sheet please point them out. I will also endorse to point out which Embed I'm using in the RP when the time comes.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 11, 2014, 08:02:41 PM
Oh, Fuck. I've got to make some concrete shit up for mephistopheles?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 11, 2014, 08:29:08 PM
So if the character development comes to pass would it be possible to convert a regular player character into a villain one with GM consent?

So if anyone else was interested in the answer to this Elf said that it could happen but it would be a case by case thing.

Oh, Fuck. I've got to make some concrete shit up for Mephistopheles?

Did you really think that you wouldn't have to? Vaguely explained things in sheets always turn out badly in RPs.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 11, 2014, 08:31:29 PM
I wasn't planning on ever summoning him though, so I thought I might not have to. He's just there because he was on ther on the original sheet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 11, 2014, 08:33:29 PM
Well, whatever. I think I've fixed everything asked now.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 11, 2014, 10:22:47 PM
Decided that, because of certain overlapping similarities, my Demon's primary Cover will be similar in looks to Avenger.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 12, 2014, 02:27:47 AM
Character approvals have been updated.  Whew.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 12, 2014, 06:38:24 AM
I hope we don't catch attention of certain user :(
And who would that oh so dreadful user be?  :)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 12, 2014, 07:11:39 AM
You. Now fuck off.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 12, 2014, 07:21:49 AM
Now now, be nice. We don't want drama in here already.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 12, 2014, 08:21:04 AM
You. Now fuck off.
Oi oi oi, sorry, I really didn't mean any harm in any way.
I'll be good, I will. For one, I truly have no intention of making shitty jokes or puns to begin whith, I was just surprised at the... warm reception.
Don't mean to make any drama.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on November 12, 2014, 10:07:25 AM
To put it bluntly Franco, you don't have a good reputation on Beast's Lair. To my understanding most people consider you some combination of troll and idiot. DSM isn't BL obviously, but the active posters in this RP are BL forumites, so you're bound to get flak.

Now I can't speak for Names and Elf, who run Cross Effects, but if you can follow the rules and are willing to tolerate the users who dislike you I'm pretty sure you'll be given a chance.

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 12, 2014, 01:17:34 PM
Yeah, honestly I can't blame that, I have been pretty bad at times, especially lately.
That is why I am seeking to start fresh here, perhaps redeem myself.
Mostly because I have now realised how shitty of a poster I was in BL, thus I seek to clean my name...
But yeah, this rp looks fun, I will consider joining.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 12, 2014, 01:31:47 PM
Any idea who you'll be playing as?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 12, 2014, 02:52:17 PM
 Somebody pick up the phone, because I fucking called it
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 12, 2014, 03:11:54 PM
Tone it down.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 12, 2014, 05:57:28 PM
Any idea who you'll be playing as?
From my understanding, you can pick a completely OC character, or an already existing one, correct?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 12, 2014, 06:08:32 PM
Yes. And if you try any lantz style OC's expect to be mocked until the day you die.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 12, 2014, 06:10:26 PM
Um.... no lol.
Well, by Lantz style OC, what do you mean?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 12, 2014, 06:27:03 PM
...Get out.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on November 12, 2014, 07:12:49 PM
(http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/8969i83CE71199B2FAAED/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 12, 2014, 07:52:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/NYpS4Dd.gif)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 12, 2014, 08:21:45 PM
Jesus christ, you're the one who brought it up, all I asked was for a clarification on what you meant...
I mean, I know you're not supposed to make your OC too OP and the like, is that what you were trying to say or what?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 12, 2014, 08:22:19 PM
...Get out.

I don't know about you but I like the idea of having people that don't care or know about lantz's RPing.

^More like not too stupid. The main selling point of a character is his personality and history. If those make no sense then you have a problem. lantz's sheets were practically nonsensical considering the universe they usually came from.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 12, 2014, 08:24:27 PM
Jesus christ, you're the one who brought it up, all I asked was for a clarification on what you meant...
I mean, I know you're not supposed to make your OC too OP and the like, is that what you were trying to say or what?
Basically. I thought you could infer that from what I said.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 12, 2014, 10:08:01 PM
Magos, you must be missing Lantz and seeking a new guy to complain about.

Give him a chance.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 13, 2014, 04:27:06 AM
Magos, give Franco a chance.  Please. *Big wibbly eyes*

Also, read CE 1.0 for more clarification.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 13, 2014, 10:38:46 AM
Franco, any single character idea you got? Even just a hint is fine.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 13, 2014, 11:33:01 AM
A dead apostle would be nice, vampires are cool and all...
But let's just say I don't have the orthodox bloodsucker in mind.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 13, 2014, 11:37:51 AM
What do you mean by unorthodox?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 13, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
I mean not the usual bloodsucking vampire you'd find in other works.
For one, he does not feed by drinking blood, but by eating. (ew hehe)
Also he has a wolf thing going on for him, as in while he is not a genuine werewolf, he has an ability to transform into this huge ass humanoid black dog, thanks to the mystic code he worked on in his long life.
But he isn't really op, for one he is not a particularly strong DA, the only thing standing out for him is the mystic code that practically raises his STR and AGI for a limited time, at the expense of his sanity for the time being, and the fact he is very very tanky by nature.
He is great at melee and hit/run tactics, but has no real way to really handle long range fighting.

You will see the full details once I make the actual sheet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 13, 2014, 01:43:45 PM
I will submit one sheet (Vampire) this night or on Friday.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 13, 2014, 03:23:41 PM
What does the jury say on one character having another soul aside from his own residing in his body, as a result of having the latter soul shoved into him?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 13, 2014, 03:27:36 PM
What does the jury say on one character having another soul aside from his own residing in his body, as a result of having the latter soul shoved into him?

Well, last time, Alice played a character who had that, so I think it's fine.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 13, 2014, 03:44:20 PM
What does the jury say on one character having another soul aside from his own residing in his body, as a result of having the latter soul shoved into him?

Uh... that's basically Lawrence. So it's fine.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 13, 2014, 04:09:27 PM
Are we getting another map for the Nexus?

Or are we just using the old one?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 13, 2014, 04:14:29 PM
Potential new player? What a spike in activity.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 13, 2014, 04:19:50 PM
Oh, well I will try to finish the sheet by saturday-sunday.
There's no problem in that, right?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 13, 2014, 04:23:13 PM
Franco brings up a good point. Is there a specific due date for character sheets?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 13, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
There isn't. In delaying a sheet you just delay the point of the RP at which you can start participating, because it obviously has to be approved first. But it hasn't even started yet, so I wouldn't worry about it.

We had people joining with characters pretty late in the last version, and I don't think anything's changed to make that impossible.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 13, 2014, 04:36:47 PM
Also, just in pure curiosity, how do RP sessions work?
Like, I am a complete virgin noob at this, so like, how do you RP?
Is it done via skype or something?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 13, 2014, 04:39:15 PM
No, it's going to be play by post. Check the archives for examples. Also, do remember to read the rules and all the details of the template character sheet before investing yourself.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 13, 2014, 04:48:50 PM
Also once again I bring up offer to beta the sheet of Franco's.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 13, 2014, 04:50:42 PM
Are we allowed to try our hand at an Old Man Henderson?

Sorry, this just popped into my head and it's going to keep bugging me until I get it out of my system.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 13, 2014, 04:57:25 PM
I mean, Nachos and Elf scrutinize the sheets before approval and give criticism if anything's wrong with them, but presenting good sheets to begin with is a step in the right direction.

Funny story: someone did in fact play Old Man Henderson in a previous iteration of Cross Effects.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 13, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
Also once again I bring up offer to beta the sheet of Franco's.

Oh, thank you for the offer.
I accept.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 13, 2014, 05:09:56 PM
I mean, Nachos and Elf scrutinize the sheets before approval and give criticism if anything's wrong with them, but presenting good sheets to begin with is a step in the right direction.

Funny story: someone did in fact play Old Man Henderson in a previous iteration of Cross Effects.

That does it, I'm going to try an Old Man Henderson. Would be a nice change of pace from the other character I'm thinking about bringing in.

As soon as I am able, that is.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 13, 2014, 05:17:42 PM
Just PM or message me, Franco.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 13, 2014, 05:28:04 PM
Just PM or message me, Franco.
Do you mind if it' trough skype instead?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 13, 2014, 06:22:32 PM
Skype is fine too.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 13, 2014, 06:49:46 PM
Arch-Magos should be able to answer this one, but would playing a Space Marine be a viable option, because the same spark that drove me to see if I could do Old Man Henderson is now driving me to see if playing a notable member of the Salamanders would be doable within the bounds of the RP.

Part of the inspiration was finding out that someone apparently went and did Doomrider in the first iteration.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 13, 2014, 06:50:27 PM
Missing mandible had some characters from 40k in 2.0.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 13, 2014, 06:59:06 PM
With characters from sci-fi settings, especially those that involve space like 40k, it depends entirely on Elf's individual judgement.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 13, 2014, 07:20:27 PM
Yeah, things like 40k are a borderline case. They're Sci-Fi-like settings, but they also have a strong fantasy element to them. So, yeah, you need to ask Elf what she will and will not allow in that respect. Most likely, a normal human or someone with magical-like powers would be OK, but someone who uses really high-tech equipment (especially an android) may not be.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 13, 2014, 10:14:43 PM
Yeah, things like 40k are a borderline case. They're Sci-Fi-like settings, but they also have a strong fantasy element to them. So, yeah, you need to ask Elf what she will and will not allow in that respect. Most likely, a normal human or someone with magical-like powers would be OK, but someone who uses really high-tech equipment (especially an android) may not be.
The idea is they need to be way more fantasy than scifi. Want a tech priest/most sphess muhreens? nope nope nope. Doomrider was allowed because he was the incarnation of the 70s, had a flaming motorbike and a skull for a head.

Melee space wolves, black templars, maybe a captain if he promises to lose some of his gear, I'd approve. Some of the primarchs actually have more likelihood of approval from me they were literally demigods and were either magical(Magnus the nerd, Mortarion's weird lamp+scythe combo), batman or loved their melee (Russ suplex! Angron too, Jaghatai to a certain extent).

Tyranid genestealers I'd approve in a heartbeat, but there is a no alien rule.

Sphess elves eeeeehhhhhhh there is a no alien rule.

Tau nope.

Kayoss cultists also approved in a heartbeat. 40k demons would be cool too, since they're demons and not aliens. (yes this makes sense)

Guardsmen would be case by case.

Necrons nope. Play terminator instead.

Orks I'd love to say yes but no aliens :(

Squats would b
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 13, 2014, 11:12:41 PM
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Sphess elves eeeeehhhhhhh there is a no alien rule.

Original, fantasy version, are basically subspecies of humans.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 13, 2014, 11:19:47 PM
Then das okay

but the Eldar are totes aliens
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 13, 2014, 11:57:48 PM
The idea is they need to be way more fantasy than scifi. Want a tech priest/most sphess muhreens? nope nope nope. Doomrider was allowed because he was the incarnation of the 70s, had a flaming motorbike and a skull for a head.

Fair enough. That also explains /tg/'s portrayal of him.

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Melee space wolves, black templars, maybe a captain if he promises to lose some of his gear, I'd approve. Some of the primarchs actually have more likelihood of approval from me they were literally demigods and were either magical(Magnus the nerd, Mortarion's weird lamp+scythe combo), batman or loved their melee (Russ suplex! Angron too, Jaghatai to a certain extent).

What about Angry Marines?

And what kind of gear are we talking about? The Teleport homers? The Iron Halos? The Storm Shields? Give me some examples to work with.

Would I be restricted to specific types of Marines (Devastator, Assault, Tactical, Veteran, Dreadnought)?

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Tyranid genestealers I'd approve in a heartbeat, but there is a no alien rule.

Sphess elves eeeeehhhhhhh there is a no alien rule.

Tau nope.

To the first, unfortunate, though that would get real awkward, real fast.

To the second, no offense, but fuck the Eldar. I am not risking giving Slannesh a little brother/sister.

To the third...I ain't about that life.

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Kayoss cultists also approved in a heartbeat. 40k demons would be cool too, since they're demons and not aliens. (yes this makes sense)

Tempting. Eliphas the inheritor? Honsou? Fabius Bile?

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Guardsmen would be case by case.

Okay, here are the cases I put before you.

Commissar Yarrick, Creed, and Inquisitorial aide Psyker Alicia Boone.

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Necrons nope. Play terminator instead.

No problems here, though Trayzyn the Infinite might have been fun.

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Orks I'd love to say yes but no aliens :(

You dare deny me the chance to be Ghazgull Mag Thraka? Or Warboss Tuska the Daemonkilla?!

...Well, I'm going to have Old Man Henderson, unless Arch wants to do him again.

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Squats would b

Squats?

One more thing. What about Imperial Assassins (Vindicaire, Eversor, Culexus, Callidus, and those other two that I can't remember right now)?

Not gonna ask about Custodes because they're kinda mini-primarchs.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 14, 2014, 12:18:45 AM
You don't know about Squats?

Damn, Games Workshop's Ministry of Truth too stronk.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 14, 2014, 12:27:04 AM
You're talking about the guys GW fed to the 'Nids. There have been rumors that this is how Cruddace shitted on the Nids, by feeding them squats until the Carnifexes became shit.

Side note: The meds be wearing off.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 14, 2014, 12:32:35 AM
Damn, I'd rather see IC soon than memepost like this here.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 14, 2014, 12:44:03 AM
Okay, that's the second time I've heard that term in the past 48 hours, so could you please explain the concept of 'Memeposting?'

Also, the fuck is IC?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 14, 2014, 12:49:40 AM
IC is the place where you post your in character posts.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 14, 2014, 01:02:54 AM
Okay, that's the second time I've heard that term in the past 48 hours, so could you please explain the concept of 'Memeposting?'

Also, the fuck is IC?
It's the reason BL is exploding at the moment. If you're from there you'd know, so I guess somehow you found this place without hitting BL first... somehow. Basically it's shitposting with another name.

IC is in character. OOC is out of character.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 14, 2014, 01:23:29 AM
I have been to BL, I just haven't asked around there yet.

Judge me as you will, I give not the slightest of fucks.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 14, 2014, 01:24:33 AM
It looks pretty damn good.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 14, 2014, 01:27:03 AM
It looks pretty damn good.

Dare I ask?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 14, 2014, 01:28:12 AM
About what?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 14, 2014, 01:28:57 AM
About what?

About what it is that looks 'pretty damn good'?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 14, 2014, 01:30:46 AM
The sheet. In my opinion, it looks pretty good.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 14, 2014, 01:32:15 AM
The sheet. In my opinion, it looks pretty good.

Yay!

Credit to Arch-Magos, who I will admit that I copy-pasta'd some of it from.

One more question. Can I do a member of the Legion of the Damned? Because god damn it all that would be awesome.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 14, 2014, 03:07:41 AM

What about Angry Marines?

And what kind of gear are we talking about? The Teleport homers? The Iron Halos? The Storm Shields? Give me some examples to work with.

Would I be restricted to specific types of Marines (Devastator, Assault, Tactical, Veteran, Dreadnought)?
No dreadnoughts, no assault, no devastator, tactical maybe, with basic bolters and limited ammo.

As for gear, no iron halos, DEFINITELY no teleport homers, storm shields... I'm going to say no. They're already wearing armor that'd make a werewolf cry, and this is an urban fantasy thing.

Hell, I'm going to say apart from armor, basic melee (no power fists/thunder hammers) and bolters with very limited ammunition, nothing at all. Think of the setting and all.

This includes primarchs. They got what they're known for (ex: Mortarion's lamp/scythe) but stuff like iron halos and whatever else got fried when they came to nexus. Basic apparatus only.

This is not an OP arms race.

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Tempting. Eliphas the inheritor? Honsou? Fabius Bile?
Those are marines. I meant cultists as in the crazy little guys who speak in a high pitch at you in DoW. Alternatively the kind you play dark heresy to purge.


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Commissar Yarrick, Creed, and Inquisitorial aide Psyker Alicia Boone.
No yarrick, sure creed and... yeah, Psyker'd be okay.



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One more thing. What about Imperial Assassins (Vindicaire, Eversor, Culexus, Callidus, and those other two that I can't remember right now)?

Not gonna ask about Custodes because they're kinda mini-primarchs.
Vindicaire no, eversor... yeah, probably antagonist slot only(because crazy), Culexus no, and callidus, well... I'm tempted to say yes, but with damaged gear and shit.

And post-heresy custodes would totes be okay.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 14, 2014, 03:23:44 AM
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As for gear, no iron halos, DEFINITELY no teleport homers, storm shields... I'm going to say no. They're already wearing armor that'd make a werewolf cry, and this is an urban fantasy thing.

Apologies. The inconsistencies with the strength of Space Marine armor have me somewhat wary.

What about Purity Seals?

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Hell, I'm going to say apart from armor, basic melee (no power fists/thunder hammers) and bolters with very limited ammunition, nothing at all. Think of the setting and all.

This amuses me, especially when I consider that someone fielded a Grey Knight Brother-Captain during the 2nd run of this RP.

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This includes primarchs. They got what they're known for (ex: Mortarion's lamp/scythe) but stuff like iron halos and whatever else got fried when they came to nexus. Basic apparatus only.

So, someone like Ferrus Manus would keep his metal hands and his crazy weapon/armor-smithing talents?

And someone like Vulkan would keep his Perpetual status?

And someone like Robout- wait, what the fuck am I saying?

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This is not an OP arms race.

Fair enough.

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Those are marines. I meant cultists as in the crazy little guys who speak in a high pitch at you in DoW. Alternatively the kind you play dark heresy to purge.

My bad. So you mean like the Lost and the Damned, or Cultist-chan?

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No yarrick, sure creed and... yeah, Psyker'd be okay.

If Creed, would be allowed to keep his personal armaments (Pair of Hellpistols), or is he going to be relying entirely on his tactical genius?

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Vindicaire no, eversor... yeah, probably antagonist slot only(because crazy), Culexus no, and callidus, well... I'm tempted to say yes, but with damaged gear and shit.

Vindicaire, I can understand (Probably can't find Exitus bullets), Callidus, kinda understand.

Eversor might be a problem, what with how they're basically the apocalypse shoved into a human body.

Culexus...why not? I mean, how bad would anti-soul be in an Urban fantasy?

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And post-heresy custodes would totes be okay.

Hell yes.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 14, 2014, 03:36:55 AM
Culexus...why not? I mean, how bad would anti-soul be in an Urban fantasy?
It's the mask and the psychic laser beam it shoots. It's silly. They're silly.

Also the nature of blanks would make culexus a little hard to play, since that don't have an off switch, has AoE and nexus has a fair amount of psychics/muhgiciens and stuff.

I mean the more I think about it it's fine even with all equipment and stuff (etherium would be interesting), but like, it'd be awkward for you to play since you'd have to check with everyone to see if they can actually approach this character without them flipping their shit.

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Hell yes.
If you want to play a naked, sweaty, oily man with an obsession with protecting daddy, sure.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 14, 2014, 03:43:18 AM
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It's the mask and the psychic laser beam it shoots. It's silly. They're silly.

Also the nature of blanks would make culexus a little hard to play, since that don't have an off switch, has AoE and nexus has a fair amount of psychics/muhgiciens and stuff.

I mean the more I think about it it's fine even with all equipment and stuff (etherium would be interesting), but like, it'd be awkward for you to play since you'd have to check with everyone to see if they can actually approach this character without them flipping their shit.

That would be a bit awkward.
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If you want to play a naked, sweaty, oily man with an obsession with protecting daddy, sure.

Wait what? What about all the badass golden arm- oh fuck. Forgot about that.

Why did they forsake their armor?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 14, 2014, 09:43:34 AM
Finally, got a second character up. Chose Rin because I figured I'd attempt to redeem myself for screwing up with her characterization a bit towards the end of 2.0.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 14, 2014, 12:39:17 PM
ANother delay in submitting a second sheet. A huge translation request. Third this week.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 15, 2014, 04:37:21 PM
Approvals updated. Unless I'm mistaken, that's all of them.

EDIT: Missed one, approved him. Anyone else got beef? Huh? Come and get some.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 16, 2014, 06:08:47 PM
Just as a quick note, in order to include an image within your post, all you need to do is type this:

[img ]http://InsertImage'sURLHere[/img]

Without that gap at the end of the first [img] of course. It needs to be a url from a website or it won't work. You can just copy and paste the link in between the [img] tags. Another thing to keep in mind is that if a site doesn't like hotlinking, the image won't work, so you'll either need to upload to someplace like imgur or find an alternate site that accepts people hotlinking things.

This has been a public service announcement. May it actually be vaguely useful.  8)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 16, 2014, 11:28:23 PM
Mordred will use some British slang in her speech patterns, she is supposed to be from there after all.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 16, 2014, 11:31:44 PM
Thinking back on the original Old Man Henderson, I suppose I should apologize to Elf ahead of time, in case Henderson derails anything that she has planned.

Sorry in advance.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 16, 2014, 11:40:04 PM
Mordred will use some British slang in her speech patterns, she is supposed to be from there after all.

Lol, whilst that is strictly-speaking true, she sure as hell wouldn't have spoken English....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 16, 2014, 11:41:21 PM
I believe that the language you're looking for is...Breton? Something? I'm not entirely sure.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 17, 2014, 12:02:46 AM
Reminder that Kat's Mordred is a completely unrelated expy of Nasuverse Mordred who only takes cues in appearance, personality, and themes from her inspiration.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 17, 2014, 12:03:43 AM
Thinking back on the original Old Man Henderson, I suppose I should apologize to Elf ahead of time, in case Henderson derails anything that she has planned.

Sorry in advance.
Nah, don't worry about it. If it's disruptive, someone will point it out in thread, but I don't think it'll be an issue. Like I said elsewhere, don't worry so much. :) ...you're making me look confident in comparison. :P You'll be fine.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 17, 2014, 12:09:53 AM
I believe that the language you're looking for is...Breton? Something? I'm not entirely sure.

Brythonic was the name used at the time, but it's an ancestor to modern Welsh and Cornish (and also Breton, I think).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 17, 2014, 12:10:27 AM
Nah, don't worry about it. If it's disruptive, someone will point it out in thread, but I don't think it'll be an issue. Like I said elsewhere, don't worry so much. :) ...you're making me look confident in comparison. :P You'll be fine.

But...It's just...Part of me is worried that I'm going to get carried away and start running down plot points, sometimes literally.

And it's kinda my first time in an RP, in a play by post, and playing with this kind of character...

*quivers nervously*
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 17, 2014, 01:01:59 AM
Unless you bring an entire skyscraper crashing down on one of the antagonists you probably won't do anything too disruptive(and that might not even kill some of them so not as many worries about that). Just relax and have some fun with it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Mooncake on November 17, 2014, 01:33:50 AM
It is on.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 17, 2014, 01:52:49 AM
Indeed it is. And Henderson has already burned down a church.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 17, 2014, 02:34:34 AM
Just so people know what my antagonist looks like, here it is.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/305/e/f/toneri_otsutsuki_by_iisharuchihaii-d84xfi9.png (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/305/e/f/toneri_otsutsuki_by_iisharuchihaii-d84xfi9.png)

Yes it's a naruto character, but I loved the design and it fit.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 17, 2014, 03:08:03 AM
I_care_not_till_I_must, just for the future we generally take turns posting. its fine that you posted before me this time, but just try and watch it a bit.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 17, 2014, 03:09:20 AM
...Shit. My bad. As you can probably tell, I'm a bit new to this.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 17, 2014, 03:14:17 AM
Its fine man. That's why I am telling you rather then bitching at you.

Just keep rolling with it this time.

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 17, 2014, 03:16:30 AM
So who's turn is it right now? Nacho's? Mine?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 17, 2014, 03:19:56 AM
There's not really a set way to tell whose "turn" it is, but since Rebecca just answered Donkey Whacker, waiting for him to answer might be good. It's a case by case thing. You gotta try and feel when it's a good time for you to interject with your post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 17, 2014, 03:21:22 AM
...This is going to take some getting used to...
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 17, 2014, 05:06:31 AM
So, just to be certain, so I don't screw this up again, we're waiting for Nacho to answer Knick?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 17, 2014, 05:06:57 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 17, 2014, 05:08:28 AM
Was his original name Nacho? It just now occurred to me.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 17, 2014, 05:09:52 AM
It's a nickname. He'd explain it better than I can.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 17, 2014, 06:09:17 AM
NamesAreHardToComeUpWith->NAHTCUW->Nachos (somehow)

Like all not-obnoxious people, I did not make up my nickname, so I don't get it either.

Anyway sorry man, but I'm having my wisdom teeth pulled tomorrow, so I probably will be too high as a kite to post any posts. Just letting ya know.

Gave you a window out of it if you want to have OMH leave.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 17, 2014, 06:27:05 AM
Probably wouldn't be a good idea for the Telepathic equivalent of a Culexus to be hanging around the subconscious telepath anyway. However, the destruction of the 7-11 is kinda your fault.
If he destroys it, that is.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 17, 2014, 06:54:16 AM
Okay, posted.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 17, 2014, 09:46:14 AM
Posted. Tomorrow I'm at workplace, so provided I have no requests to handle there, I won't post until 9 PM of my time. It's 3 PM for Elf.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 17, 2014, 12:40:59 PM
Thanks to Kat for letting me know that 3.0 started.
Should have some free time to write up a character profile sheet. Might stick with my MtG OC idea, but...recently made a pauper Red deck, so I might need to revise my plan for said OC.

inb4 a Disciple of Dune-Brood Nephilim, because Abzan+Red
(http://i.imgur.com/ywxaOn5.jpg)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 17, 2014, 12:52:08 PM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 17, 2014, 05:05:02 PM
I suddenly get the feeling I dun goofed.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 17, 2014, 05:05:56 PM
By shooting at hrunting?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 17, 2014, 05:09:53 PM
Yeah
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 17, 2014, 05:15:29 PM
I don't think it will do anything, hrunting should just adjust it's course back at forest.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 17, 2014, 05:22:29 PM
As a note, Grenth's minions are mooks and ya can do anything ya want to them.

Not even familiers, so not like Grenth knows what happens to them.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 17, 2014, 09:55:35 PM
Do we have anything resembling a street-map of the Nexus? I'm just curious, because it feels like our characters can just warp from one situation to the next if they have decent transportation, and it's a little disorienting.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 17, 2014, 10:00:20 PM
We had something like that for 2.0, but I don't think we have one for 3.0
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 17, 2014, 10:03:16 PM
And we can't use 2.0's map for 3.0, can we?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 17, 2014, 10:05:37 PM
No, definetly not. The landscape has most certantly changed. For one, 3.0 has an overgrown section, and lacks the gil tower.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 17, 2014, 10:18:22 PM
Edited my post for second time, now it should be congruous with the fact Tar and Saber are inside a building. Mordred spotted them from a roof of that building as they walked into a windowed room.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 18, 2014, 02:46:51 AM
Would I be correct in guessing that this RP only really gets going during the weekends?

Apologies for any feathers ruffled, I'm just curious.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 18, 2014, 03:09:30 AM
Nah, you're fine. Technically that could probably be considered true, if only because that's usually when people have time to post. It depends on who needs to post though and when they have time free. So it just varies on when people happen to have time available.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 18, 2014, 03:20:41 AM
And we can't use 2.0's map for 3.0, can we?

Well remove Gil's tower and the "over grown" section could theoretically be part of Shawnee park.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 18, 2014, 03:31:11 AM
If you want to make things even easier, Gil Tower could be where Takeoff Solutions is based in this version of the Nexus. Though that's Elf's call. ^^"
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 18, 2014, 05:01:01 AM
One more question. How do I know when it would be a good time for my character to back out of a situation? I'm just asking because I'm trying to figure if Henderson would investigate the source of the hated Cutlery, or if he would prioritize his gnomes and not waste the time on the cutlery.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 18, 2014, 05:14:54 AM
Play it by ear. Do you have Skype? We've got a chat for this.

Also Henderson could go in a bunch of directions right now. Or you could wait to see what other groups form.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 18, 2014, 06:11:02 AM
And we can't use 2.0's map for 3.0, can we?

Well remove Gil's tower and the "over grown" section could theoretically be part of Shawnee park.

Can I instead make a new map in a top-down perspective?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 18, 2014, 06:12:19 AM
If you want to make it go ahead.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 18, 2014, 09:57:29 AM
Okay, I did not want to rush anything, so it is understandable none of the three characters noticed Mordred, but as it was in the post, one of cops noticed her, so she might be in trouble after she climbs down the building. I'll RP it out with the cops on my own since they are NPCs, within reason (and I swear IC wise my character won't try to stir trouble :p).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 18, 2014, 12:30:08 PM
Play it by ear. Do you have Skype? We've got a chat for this.

Also Henderson could go in a bunch of directions right now. Or you could wait to see what other groups form.

And this is part of the reason I want to have more than one character in this thing... curse you, university! Curse you for delaying my completion of Monster Hunter Adjutor's stat sheet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 18, 2014, 12:36:02 PM
If you want to make it go ahead.

There's only one thing I need: People here need to say what districts does the city have and what major landmarks.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 18, 2014, 01:51:41 PM
There should be a large neighborhood with both old buildings and modern ones, occupied by asian crime syndicates. It has seen an influx of demonic beings recently. The most notable landmark is a large skyscraper atop the which someone recently raised an old-style chinese palace.

Relevant for reasons. GM has been consulted about this.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 18, 2014, 03:05:17 PM
Quote
"Sure thing, bitch." Neo interjected. "You gotta be so nuts not to get help finding your shitty senpai or somethin', ya' kno'? I mean, what's with the pride, huh?" He then scoffed. "What's wrong, you fuckin' whore? Too stupid to find someone to fuck ya'?"

...

"I mean, look at this paranoid bitch, Ratt." The blonde pressed on, as if he was trying to greatly anger the girl. He then spoke in a mocking falsetto to imitate her voice. "'Oh senpai, please notice muh huge tits and ass! I'm pretty sure that senpai will only notice me because I think I'm the sexiest bitch in the world and nobody else!'"

...

"I nevah seen no bitch like this, man! Thinks she's the baddest and edgiest whore in the whole fuckin' universe since the Big Fuckin' Bang! Bitch, ah'm pretty sure you ain't even have the balls to kill somebody. I do and I've been doing that shit since I was 7 years old, so fuck your senpai and fuck you too!" He then began to walk away, saying "Let's get outta' here, boss. I'm pretty sure that stupid wannabe edgy bitch will just throw yo' fuckin' card away."


...Shit. This isn't going to end well.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 18, 2014, 03:12:55 PM
...Shit. This isn't going to end well.

I introduce you, Jan Neo Langraad.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 18, 2014, 06:21:17 PM
Quote
"Sure thing, bitch." Neo interjected. "You gotta be so nuts not to get help finding your shitty senpai or somethin', ya' kno'? I mean, what's with the pride, huh?" He then scoffed. "What's wrong, you fuckin' whore? Too stupid to find someone to fuck ya'?"

...

"I mean, look at this paranoid bitch, Ratt." The blonde pressed on, as if he was trying to greatly anger the girl. He then spoke in a mocking falsetto to imitate her voice. "'Oh senpai, please notice muh huge tits and ass! I'm pretty sure that senpai will only notice me because I think I'm the sexiest bitch in the world and nobody else!'"

...

"I nevah seen no bitch like this, man! Thinks she's the baddest and edgiest whore in the whole fuckin' universe since the Big Fuckin' Bang! Bitch, ah'm pretty sure you ain't even have the balls to kill somebody. I do and I've been doing that shit since I was 7 years old, so fuck your senpai and fuck you too!" He then began to walk away, saying "Let's get outta' here, boss. I'm pretty sure that stupid wannabe edgy bitch will just throw yo' fuckin' card away."


...Shit. This isn't going to end well.
Haha, no it isn't.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 18, 2014, 06:26:24 PM
Quote
Sakura turned to face Neo, quivering with rage.

Totally

Quote
Sakura clenched her fists, glaring daggers at Neo. Yukina's voice barely even registered in Sakura's mind.
How dare he say these things!

Fucking

Quote
Sakura's body suddenly relaxed; her sholders sagged, she unclenced her fists, and her body stopped trembling. However, in her eyes, one could see nothing but rage.
Die
Suddenly, three large demonic dogs lanched themselves from her shadow, sailing towards the throats of the three.

Called it!

...Mental note. Henderson will be offering her a blunt when he encounters her. Nothing to calm the nerves quite like Marijuana wrapped in a page of the Necronomicon...
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 18, 2014, 06:58:03 PM
Can't be worse than Angra Mainyu.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 18, 2014, 07:11:16 PM
Mordred is either hilariously unlucky or exceptionally lucky. No middle ground :p

Also, she needs the glasses.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 18, 2014, 07:11:44 PM
Hmm, so, when I come round to doing Sakura's sheet, what would her "constitution" be described as, given that she retains the capacity to heal from wounds like Dark Sakura (although not as extreme), but is otherwise an average magus in that regard (i.e., you can cut her arm off relatively easily, but if she escapes it will have regrown by the time you next face her)?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 18, 2014, 07:15:02 PM
How resilient you are and how much damage you can take are separate things from how fast you heal.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 18, 2014, 07:22:25 PM
Sure, but most things that would kill a normal person would not kill Sakura because of her healing ability. Prolonged damage might, and anything that destroyed her brain certainly would, but beyond that I think she could survive most things, although she might be out of action for a while (she survived being beheaded by Gil, and was able to regenerate from pulling Zouken's worm out of her heart).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 18, 2014, 07:43:10 PM
Could she still do that now that she's not longer Dark?
she retains the capacity to heal from wounds like Dark Sakura (although not as extreme)

And if she just doesn't die from (normally) mortal wounds because her healing is always active, that really doesn't make her tougher in any way. If she could be instantly killed from an attack that would also kill her if she didn't have that ability, her Constitution should be no different. At most it would be like Human (Supernatural) due to the circumstancial workings of it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 18, 2014, 08:31:23 PM
Can't be worse than Angra Mainyu.

That's the idea.

And if she just doesn't die from (normally) mortal wounds because her healing is always active, that really doesn't make her tougher in any way. If she could be instantly killed from an attack that would also kill her if she didn't have that ability, her Constitution should be no different. At most it would be like Human (Supernatural) due to the circumstancial workings of it.

Honestly, just mark it down as human, and give her something along the lines of Regeneration: Legendary with an additional modifier to account for Sakura's inability to regenerate from being blasted to her constituent atoms.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 18, 2014, 08:41:35 PM
Legendary probably belongs to guys like Lucas because Sakura will die from getting her head punched off. Lucas won't die unless you make sure not even a single drop of blood or piece of flesh touches the earth while you roast him repeatedly.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 18, 2014, 08:48:19 PM
Could she still do that now that she's not longer Dark?

I need to consider that. She certainly can to an extent, because she has a large prana supply, but possibly not to quite the same extent as Dark Sakura.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 18, 2014, 08:59:45 PM
Legendary probably belongs to guys like Lucas because Sakura will die from getting her head punched off. Lucas won't die unless you make sure not even a single drop of blood or piece of flesh touches the earth while you roast him repeatedly.

That's why I mentioned having additional modifiers to denote this. The speed of recovery seems like it would qualify though.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 18, 2014, 09:11:11 PM
That's why we have characters with things like Regeneration in their Other Abilities. Of course you can assume a certain level of constitution means they heal a bit faster, but that's just a facet of their physique.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 18, 2014, 09:12:18 PM
Legendary probably belongs to guys like Lucas because Sakura will die from getting her head punched off. Lucas won't die unless you make sure not even a single drop of blood or piece of flesh touches the earth while you roast him repeatedly.

That's why I mentioned having additional modifiers to denote this. The speed of recovery seems like it would qualify though.

Nah, Dark Sakura would probably be Superhuman. Normal Sakura is probably Supernatural.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 18, 2014, 09:24:04 PM
Except Prana =/= healing Mike. Sakura is at best exceptional, without using healing magecraft.

The only reason Lawrence reaches supernatural is because he cannot go into either shock or unconciousness from pain or physical damage. He'll stay alive until he's entirely bled out.

His ability to no sell damage doesn't effect his endurance because he still takes that damage, he just reduces it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 18, 2014, 09:25:04 PM
I think he meant the rank of the healing right now actually.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 18, 2014, 10:49:47 PM
Except Prana =/= healing Mike. Sakura is at best exceptional, without using healing magecraft.

The only reason Lawrence reaches supernatural is because he cannot go into either shock or unconciousness from pain or physical damage. He'll stay alive until he's entirely bled out.

His ability to no sell damage doesn't effect his endurance because he still takes that damage, he just reduces it.

Except that we see Sakura self-heal, both as Dark Sakura and also as her normal self. Whether that counts as higher endurance or not is another matter (although I'd expect Sakura to have high pain tolerance), but she does possess the ability to heal damage rapidly.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 18, 2014, 11:21:18 PM
OK, I've posted Rider.

I put a "personality" section in there, because I just find it easier to RP a character if I have a reference as to how I intend to play them....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 18, 2014, 11:35:53 PM
You do remember that Medusa's backstory in FSN is different from the myth, right?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 18, 2014, 11:40:13 PM
You do remember that Medusa's backstory in FSN is different from the myth, right?

In what manner? I mean, the myth is not exactly clear, and I'm not sure her backstory is explained that well (it's certainly not in HF, at least).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 18, 2014, 11:49:27 PM
It's either in CM or HA, iirc.

She was never cursed, and was born as a Divine Spirit, except that unlike her sisters, she wasn't immortal and unaging. She was exiled to the island by Athena due to jealousy or some such, and her sisters came along. She became the Gorgon due to killing and consuming the blood of those who came to the island to take her sisters away, or, banking on the infamy she had received from Athena, try to kill her. She ended up consuming her sisters too and just existed as a monster until Perseus came and killed her.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 18, 2014, 11:51:15 PM
They talk about it in hollow, I don't know if it's elaborated in CM.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 19, 2014, 01:14:11 AM
OK, I've posted Rider.

I put a "personality" section in there, because I just find it easier to RP a character if I have a reference as to how I intend to play them....

If all else fails, you can just keep some notes on hand. Like, type them out on your word-processor of choice or something.



Sorry to throw things completely off track, but this has been bugging me for a while.

What is this building referred to as 'YOLF's Aegis?'

I get the feeling that I miss way too much stuff around here...
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 19, 2014, 01:49:34 AM
OK, I've posted Rider.

I put a "personality" section in there, because I just find it easier to RP a character if I have a reference as to how I intend to play them....

If all else fails, you can just keep some notes on hand. Like, type them out on your word-processor of choice or something.

Sure, but I have more than one computer I might potentially post in the RP from, so that can result in issues.

Anyway, I've updated the profile to take into account what YOLF said about Rider's backstory.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 19, 2014, 01:50:17 AM
What is this building referred to as 'YOLF's Aegis?'

I get the feeling that I miss way too much stuff around here...

I ran Fate Averruncus as a character on CE 2.0., as he appears in UQ Holder. When the RP started, he had been in town for a while, and was commanding a PMC he had named AEGIS. AEGIS was gaining new tech and was also reaching out for Gilgamesh's Golden Rule for the resources to start cleaning up town for real.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 19, 2014, 01:52:28 AM
I ran Fate Averruncus as a character on CE 2.0., as he appears in UQ Holder. When the RP started, he had been in town for a while, and was commanding a PMC he had named AEGIS. AEGIS was gaining new tech and was also reaching out for Gilgamesh's Golden Rule for the resources to start cleaning up town for real.

I take it that this either went well, or went horribly wrong.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 19, 2014, 02:13:22 AM
He spoke well enough to get Gil's cooperation and was recruiting people, but it never went anywhere before 2.0 ended.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 19, 2014, 06:24:38 AM
Kat, in case I don't catch you on skype, just how much is Mordred human? Like, is she like half human half fae at this point?

I know changelings are weird but there is nothing in your sheet about it, it is important for Hamara's post.

Also umbra, your free to post on the whole Lucas thing. Crest's post won't have him being able to help in the combat anyway cause the timescale would be slightly longer.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on November 19, 2014, 11:14:28 AM
Elf, I think I have found your inspiration for Cop Saber.

(https://danbooru.donmai.us/data/4aefc36f2ce7f921bff9d13adf098e3f.png)

EDIT: Blargh. See if this link works if you can't see the picture: https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1419893
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 19, 2014, 12:09:45 PM
Image is broken. ^^"

Also, I'll post eventually, I promise!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 19, 2014, 01:29:11 PM
Elf, I think I have found your inspiration for Cop Saber.

EDIT: Blargh. See if this link works if you can't see the picture: https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1419893

That's actually ridiculously hot.

Man, Fore just kneed Shirou in the junk and she's probably going to bite him.  Talk about mixed signals.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on November 19, 2014, 01:38:54 PM
He has no idea what he's up against. Getting to know Forest will be quite a ride for him.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 19, 2014, 01:40:29 PM
She's just going to confuse the hell out of him I think, as she does most people.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 19, 2014, 02:53:13 PM
Just out of curiosity, would there happen to be anything resembling a military base within the city?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 19, 2014, 02:57:25 PM
Oh god.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 19, 2014, 03:13:02 PM
...I suppose it's time for old man Henderson to move on once more...assuming nobody finds out about the church...

The life of the half-insane, cult-killing, gnome-loving hobo is not an easy one, but it is the life that Henderson chooses!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 19, 2014, 03:20:37 PM
Kat, in case I don't catch you on skype, just how much is Mordred human? Like, is she like half human half fae at this point?

I know changelings are weird but there is nothing in your sheet about it, it is important for Hamara's post.

Changelings have had a part of their souls ripped out in passing through the Hedge, and the gaps filled in with faerie nature and the Wyrd. Their bodies themselves are also changed by the nature of Arcadia during the course of their time there.

So yes, they're fundamentally different from regular humans and part fae to the point their perspective of the world is also different. Changelings with greater Wyrd and drastically lower Clarity (i.e. can't distinguish dreams and reality very well and have more alien mindsets) are closer to True Fae than the others. Most of them are probably right in the mid-point of Hamara's tolerance scale, but Mordred is likely be less acceptable due to higher wyrd and how many Contracts she has.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 19, 2014, 09:49:05 PM
Just as a note.

Hamara has an ability that has been showcased, and because it is important for interactions I am puttng it here.

Aura of the Great: A projection of his being, it makes Humans feel the need to bow down to him. As he is greater than them. He is their champion. He is humanity itself. He is their protector and guardian, and lives for their sakes. These are some ways that normal humans often perceive him as, however those with strong ego’s recognize but do not follow through with the effect, and for that they earn respect. If one is not truly human they do not recognize it.

If your character is human, as in a human magic user, normal human, or a human with and odd power, and has not been changed on some level to be something else then human, they recognize this effect. What exactly they interpret him as it depended on how you want to RP it, however it should always in general keep in line what is on this.

Also, as a note, I do not expect it to cause him to control people, in the IC effects on mooks it is them complying with his wishes, rather then being controlled.

If you have any questions you are free to ask me.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 19, 2014, 09:53:32 PM
My serial killer that preys on vampires is probably still a human despite his uncanny skill at the art of murder (He is WIP, and PC. He has enough specific criteria of judging vampires and strong enough ethics to be anti-hero rather than Antagonist). Given his willpower is higher than average and he is obsessed with his mission, he can shrug off bowing down to that guy.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on November 20, 2014, 01:01:08 PM
And that is the first lewd thing I have ever written and put on the internet. The corruption is too real.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 20, 2014, 02:19:19 PM
Its my blessing and my curse.  I generally corrupt those I encounter and befriend on the internet.  At least its a fun corruption?

Also, Henderson and Mordred is already proving to be entertaining and awesome.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 20, 2014, 02:22:53 PM
Does mordred have Magic resistance hidden in her unlimited skill works?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 20, 2014, 02:39:26 PM
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SUPERNATURAL TOLERANCE - Supernatural (Mordred's Wyrd is high enough for her to be accepted into Entitlement, offers her some resistance against all manner of supernatural powers)

Not exactly Magic Resistance, though.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 20, 2014, 02:55:00 PM
Henderson has a damaged page of the Necronomicon, which will be trying to regenerate by draining any magical energy tainted by an outside source (i.e. Faust's demonic-pact for knowledge renders his entire spell repertoire vulnerable to this effect.). So all of Faust's magic is going to be sundered as the Necronomicon regenerates itself.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 20, 2014, 03:02:17 PM
Isn't that overpowered?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on November 21, 2014, 12:34:57 AM
Name: Tohsaka Raida (real name Medusa), usually goes by “Rider”

Physical Attributes

Strength: Superhuman
Agility: Legendary
Constitution: Supernatural
As YOLF (who came up with the current stat system) has stated in the skype chat, Legendary is, at its very lowest, roughly equivalent to rank A+ and above. As such Rider can't have Legendary agility, she would rather be on the high end of Superhuman.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 21, 2014, 12:53:07 AM
Yes, and there are certainly faster Servants than Medusa. Like Achilles.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 21, 2014, 03:11:29 AM
Name: Tohsaka Raida (real name Medusa), usually goes by “Rider”

Physical Attributes

Strength: Superhuman
Agility: Legendary
Constitution: Supernatural
As YOLF (who came up with the current stat system) has stated in the skype chat, Legendary is, at its very lowest, roughly equivalent to rank A+ and above. As such Rider can't have Legendary agility, she would rather be on the high end of Superhuman.

YOLF said that legendary was rank A. And, rank A+ doesn't really even exist.

Plus, if he has an issue with my damn sheet, he should talk to me about it, not discuss it on some dumb chat you won't let me into.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 21, 2014, 03:26:52 AM
I said "about A~A+" before, which is why I did not speak up in here and was going to leave scrutiny of that to Elf and Names.

But A+ is actually a servant attribute rank. Multiple servants posses one. Hercules, Lancelot, Koujiro, Medea, Arturia, Gilgamesh...
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on November 21, 2014, 03:27:45 AM
YOLF didn't make a comment on your sheet in the chat (to my knowledge), I'm simply repeating what he told others before.

Maybe I'm wrong, but there's no need to be defensive. I have no issue with you, I was just trying to point out something I thought was inaccurate.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 21, 2014, 03:28:13 AM
I said "about A~A+" before, which is why I did not speak up in here and was going to leave scrutiny of that to Elf and Names.

But A+ is actually a servant attribute rank. Multiple servants posses one. Hercules, Lancelot, Koujiro, Medea, Arturia, Gilgamesh...

I would say A should be "Legendary". There should be some distinction between A and C, that's a big difference, and I don't think we're going to have many characters in the Legendary range on that basis.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on November 21, 2014, 03:29:26 AM
Sniped. Looks like A can count as legendary.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on November 21, 2014, 03:32:24 AM
The point of the vague system is to prevent rpg mechanics fagging, and simply signify when one character has a huge advantage over another.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 21, 2014, 03:41:00 AM
The point of the vague system is to prevent rpg mechanics fagging, and simply signify when one character has a huge advantage over another.

Yeah, but in FSN terms, a servant of rank A is a long way above one with rank C. And, no servant really has a "huge advantage" over the others, even a rank D servant is not an order of magnitude worse than a rank A or A+ one.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 21, 2014, 03:56:27 AM
But they absolutely do, it's just that Nasu's ranks are absolute bullshit because the battles in FSN and FZ are decided narratively and not based on math or chance and there are a lot of outside factors that make them not certain indicators of who wins.

And sorry to disappoint you, but the difference from D to A is absolutely significant. A rank Strength is theoretically 5/2 times the D rank Strength.

Also, Mike, you can't say that A rank is long above C rank but a D rank is not an order of magnitude worse than an A or A+ rank. You're contradicting yourself.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 21, 2014, 04:22:59 AM
Mike, just make it superhuman and move on.

No point arguing about it man.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 21, 2014, 04:32:53 AM
I should post Tar, but he doesn't have that much to say so far so I'll do it tomorrow. <,<
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 21, 2014, 04:56:23 AM
And sorry to disappoint you, but the difference from D to A is absolutely significant. A rank Strength is theoretically 5/2 times the D rank Strength.

Twice as powerful isn't really worth an entire new rank, though/

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Also, Mike, you can't say that A rank is long above C rank but a D rank is not an order of magnitude worse than an A or A+ rank. You're contradicting yourself.

My point is that you can't have it both ways. Either servants should all be the same rank for everything, or else you should have another rank for high-rank servants rather than including A, B and C in Superhuman, because A is just as far above C as C is above E.

Mike, just make it superhuman and move on.

No point arguing about it man.

No, because no-one has actually told me to do that yet, and I think it's stupid.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 21, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
Superhuman is a vague range, so C~A can be there. It's just A+ and higher are in Legendary range.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 21, 2014, 11:36:01 AM
Sorry for derail, but is Hamara immune to drugs?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 21, 2014, 11:48:24 AM
Uhh, I have this impression he is, but ask Knick.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 21, 2014, 01:26:23 PM
Twice as powerful isn't really worth an entire new rank, though/

My point is that you can't have it both ways. Either servants should all be the same rank for everything, or else you should have another rank for high-rank servants rather than including A, B and C in Superhuman, because A is just as far above C as C is above E.

It kind of is, in my opinion.

And the abstractness of the CE ranks was precisely to avoid this kind of discussion. I always had the idea of splitting Servants between Supernatural and Superhuman, with Legendary only for the truly most amazing ones (bearing in mind Nasu's crap in regard to ranks). I'll leave it to Elf and Names's purview, because I don't really have any authority to tell you how not to describe Rider in the CE system anyways.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 21, 2014, 01:31:32 PM
Also, I hope Names stops being high on meds and graces us to review sheets.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 21, 2014, 02:38:58 PM
Twice as powerful isn't really worth an entire new rank, though/

My point is that you can't have it both ways. Either servants should all be the same rank for everything, or else you should have another rank for high-rank servants rather than including A, B and C in Superhuman, because A is just as far above C as C is above E.

It kind of is, in my opinion.

And the abstractness of the CE ranks was precisely to avoid this kind of discussion. I always had the idea of splitting Servants between Supernatural and Superhuman, with Legendary only for the truly most amazing ones (bearing in mind Nasu's crap in regard to ranks). I'll leave it to Elf and Names's purview, because I don't really have any authority to tell you how not to describe Rider in the CE system anyways.

Basically, legendary agility is someone like the fucking Flash
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 21, 2014, 03:03:25 PM
Or Achilles.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 21, 2014, 03:07:51 PM
Let's stop arguing about it. There's no point.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 21, 2014, 03:16:44 PM
So Law isn't playing around right now. And Forest's rape bait nature's not really distracting him much from finding out what the hell is up with all this right now. Well, not much anyway. Team Suffering is now all together.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 21, 2014, 03:59:29 PM
Sorry for derail, but is Hamara immune to drugs?

Find out IC I have already said to much about his capabilities.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 21, 2014, 04:46:23 PM
Superhuman is a vague range, so C~A can be there. It's just A+ and higher are in Legendary range.

So is "supernatural", though. It makes no sense for me to have such a wide range for superhuman, and a much narrower one for supernatural, with a very arbitrary cut-off point.

Twice as powerful isn't really worth an entire new rank, though/

My point is that you can't have it both ways. Either servants should all be the same rank for everything, or else you should have another rank for high-rank servants rather than including A, B and C in Superhuman, because A is just as far above C as C is above E.

It kind of is, in my opinion.

And the abstractness of the CE ranks was precisely to avoid this kind of discussion. I always had the idea of splitting Servants between Supernatural and Superhuman, with Legendary only for the truly most amazing ones (bearing in mind Nasu's crap in regard to ranks). I'll leave it to Elf and Names's purview, because I don't really have any authority to tell you how not to describe Rider in the CE system anyways.

The problem is that you've made an arbitrary distinction between D and lower and C and higher, when there isn't a massive gap between the two in reality, and their exact stats are already known. If servant ranks really don't matter, then you should just use one rank for everything (except maybe a servant who is genuinely far, far below or above other servants), not arbitrarily divide them into two.

Sorry for derail, but is Hamara immune to drugs?

Find out IC I have already said to much about his capabilities.

Erm, no, it doesn't work like that. If your character has an ability, then it should be on your sheet and clear enough that people know what it does. "Find out ICly" is not an acceptable response to an OOC question.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 21, 2014, 04:48:32 PM
Dude, he is an antagonist, his sheet is not disclosed for a reason.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 21, 2014, 05:18:05 PM
Mike, what Kat said.

Antagonist Sheets are not released to everyone for a reason, I have already said to much to people about what he can do, so I need to keep some things to my chest.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 21, 2014, 05:25:43 PM
Yeah, it's only your good will to release any bit since you are obliged to disclose the sheet only to Elf since she approves Antagonists in the first place.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 21, 2014, 05:54:48 PM
Dude, he is an antagonist, his sheet is not disclosed for a reason.

Oh, right, OK. Then that's fair enough.

I didn't think we'd had any antagonists approved yet....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 21, 2014, 06:03:45 PM
They're right below the regular approvals. :P It's just obviously there's no links or details beyond which players have antagonists because, well, secret sheets only the two GMs are allowed to see.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 21, 2014, 06:26:13 PM
Obviously they are approved, Mordred got nearly skewered by one.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 21, 2014, 08:09:25 PM
Obviously they are approved, Mordred got nearly skewered by one.

Not been paying attention. I've been away for three days, and I'm not even in the RP yet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 21, 2014, 08:14:12 PM
Not been paying attention. I've been away for three days, and I'm not even in the RP yet.

To be fair, the last one isn't entirely your fault. Nachos is still a bit hopped up.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 21, 2014, 08:44:30 PM
Nachos is on serious pain medication.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 22, 2014, 01:13:11 AM
Nachos is on serious pain medication.

Fair enough. I had been hoping to be able to join this weekend, particularly since I'm away next weekend (and will be working during the week, and thus cannot post anything like as easily), but if he's ill there's not much he can do about it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 22, 2014, 01:16:49 PM
I have Mordred and enjoy running her, but still waiting for approval of Deb. If there is anything to fix in the sheet, go ahead.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 22, 2014, 01:32:06 PM
I would like to say the same for both Adjutor and Castus Grendel.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 22, 2014, 01:34:53 PM
For one, I look forward to Christemo's comeback.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 22, 2014, 06:39:12 PM
I would like to say the same for both Adjutor and Castus Grendel.

Does Adjutor here know the FSN characters at all?

Also, I fixed the [/list] thing that was leftover at the end of Adjutor's sheet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 22, 2014, 07:34:34 PM
Does Adjutor here know the FSN characters at all?
Also, I fixed the [/list] thing that was leftover at the end of Adjutor's sheet.

Thank you. And no, he doesn't know any of them.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 22, 2014, 09:15:44 PM
Do any of you have any idea what the hell I should do with Rider? I'm completely stuck as to where to put her, and because you guys discuss all your plans on a chat I'm seemingly not allowed into, I don't have a fucking clue what is going on or where I should send her....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Mooncake on November 22, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
Mike, everything that you see in the IC thread is what's happening. If you can't find a place to put Rider in, just make your own. People'll join in with their characters.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 22, 2014, 09:31:51 PM
Just throw 'er on in there. The only reason I haven't posted yet is because with Rin I'm waiting for the golden opportunity to toss her on top of Saber, and Tom I've been procrastinating on because I've been having sinus headaches lately so I haven't been up for writing the huge ass post that'll come with his introduction post. So yeah, just have her wandering around the city someplace vague, and if something interesting happens that she can join in on, have her be in that general vicinity.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 22, 2014, 09:48:33 PM
Mike, once Rider is approved just do what you feel like as long as it's reasonable.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 22, 2014, 09:50:43 PM
Do any of you have any idea what the hell I should do with Rider? I'm completely stuck as to where to put her, and because you guys discuss all your plans on a chat I'm seemingly not allowed into, I don't have a fucking clue what is going on or where I should send her....

You are overestimating how much we are actually planning it.

In fact, we are trying not to plan, cause it is not fun that way.

Just plop rider down somewhere random, roll a dice or something to figure it out, and just go with it.

Just I would recommend not having her find Hamara, unless for like your first three posts you need to find reasons to say why she isn't getting killed. Cause Hamara's only reaction to her would be death lasers of near uncountable amount.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 22, 2014, 09:55:07 PM
Seriously, though. If all else fails, make up a location. Within reason, of course.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 22, 2014, 10:03:09 PM
Just avoid Hamara, yeah.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 22, 2014, 10:10:41 PM
Just I would recommend not having her find Hamara, unless for like your first three posts you need to find reasons to say why she isn't getting killed. Cause Hamara's only reaction to her would be death lasers of near uncountable amount.

Well, if Mordred can manage to escape, I'd imagine Rider could. But, still, I don't see much point in doing that, no, not unless Hamara is nearby someone else I actually do want to interact with.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 22, 2014, 10:11:34 PM
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Well, if Mordred can manage to escape, I'd imagine Rider could. But, still, I don't see much point in doing that, no, not unless Hamara is nearby someone else I actually do want to interact with.

>Henderson
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 22, 2014, 10:14:03 PM
Mordred is not inhuman enough for Hamara to bother chasing.

Rider specifically is so inhuman Hamara would actively hunt her down unless higher priority targets are about.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 22, 2014, 10:31:16 PM
Mordred is not inhuman enough for Hamara to bother chasing.

Rider specifically is so inhuman Hamara would actively hunt her down unless higher priority targets are about.

Hmm, I see.

Actually, how powerful is Hamara? I'm assuming he's an antagonist, since I can't find his sheet, but that means that I have no idea what his power relative to Rider is, so I don't know how she would perform in a fight with him (even if I get into such a fight...).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 22, 2014, 10:38:08 PM
I know enough to say Rider would be screwed. Hamara's affinity advantage is overwhelming.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 22, 2014, 10:39:17 PM
If they ever get into a fight you will see how well it would go for Rider.

But until then it is all just speculation on everyone but my parts.

Being an antagonist is fun.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 22, 2014, 10:44:21 PM
If they ever get into a fight you will see how well it would go for Rider.

But until then it is all just speculation on everyone but my parts.

Being an antagonist is fun.

Except that I don't want Rider to get killed, especially not when she's my only character....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 22, 2014, 10:49:15 PM
Antagonists are quite literally the only characters without emergency plot armor. I think we deserve some level ground by our sheets not being visible.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 22, 2014, 10:50:37 PM
Yup, I'm not gonna tell what Red King has if I get him submitted and approved.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 22, 2014, 11:09:29 PM
Except that I don't want Rider to get killed, especially not when she's my only character....

Mike, I am not permited to kill anyone unless they say it is ok.

By the way, anyone that is ok with the characters dieing please PM me. I just want to know who I am actually allowed to kill in the RP.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 22, 2014, 11:13:15 PM
I generally don't want my chars to die, but I decided that if they drop to 0 on their Morality scales (They are NWoD chars after all) then they are killable. Mordred's not any close to Clarity 0, since she is for now 7.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 23, 2014, 12:49:23 AM
Antagonists are quite literally the only characters without emergency plot armor. I think we deserve some level ground by our sheets not being visible.

Yeah, sure. I just meant that it's kind-of hard to write out a fight without knowing if it is reasonable for me to actually dodge stuff or not.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 23, 2014, 12:54:00 AM
Knick could describe IC how fast Harama's projectiles go in given case, he kind of hinted in the case of Mordred.

I mean, it won't be anything 100 % clear, cause the sheet is kept secret, but give a hint how well your character can dodge them.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 23, 2014, 12:55:55 AM
Trust me, when it is impossible to dodge it will be clear in the narrative.

But generally it would be up to you to find a way in context to find a way out.

Like, if someone attacks from sky with an absurd number of attacks, the obvious thing would be to get under cover.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 23, 2014, 03:17:07 AM
Character approvals have been updated.

Also, we've got enough antagonists for now including Alice's Tom so I'm not accepting more.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 23, 2014, 12:02:38 PM
Guess we wait for the current ones to get rekted?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 23, 2014, 06:04:37 PM
Guess we wait for the current ones to get rekted?

Pretty much.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on November 23, 2014, 09:42:09 PM
To Forest: Is this the first time you've been interested in someone who tried to kill you? I get the feeling that the answer is no.

Forest: *Laughs* Oh goodness no.  I'm a Celt.  Battle can be just another form of flirting.

...then his attacking you from behind is actually quite hilarious in hind sight considering that he seems to be partial to doggy-style.
What.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 23, 2014, 10:05:16 PM
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Pretty much.

By the time a slot opens he will be ready, so I will be prepared for submitting, provided it's not this year.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 25, 2014, 02:50:29 AM
Mike, does Rider have detect evil? Because she seems to be seeking out Sakura like a bloodhound.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 25, 2014, 02:51:46 AM
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Rider noticed a large, black, evil-looking magic circle appear on the ground.

Real talk, Mike, but since when did Rider have Detect Evil?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Mooncake on November 25, 2014, 03:05:18 AM
I am curious about her Legendary Agility as well, if you'd oblige me that.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 25, 2014, 03:07:47 AM
Quote from: rider's sheet
Strength: Superhuman
Agility: Superhuman, high
Constitution: Supernatural, high
He changed it a while ago.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Mooncake on November 25, 2014, 03:11:31 AM
Ah, my bad, my bad.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 25, 2014, 03:12:22 AM
Mike, did you just use a A+ rank NP.

You do realize the impact of it getting close would kill Sakura, right?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 25, 2014, 03:15:34 AM
he said so in his post, dumbum
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 03:18:26 AM
Mike, does Rider have detect evil? Because she seems to be seeking out Sakura like a bloodhound.

No, she saw her.

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Rider noticed a large, black, evil-looking magic circle appear on the ground.

Real talk, Mike, but since when did Rider have Detect Evil?

The impression I got from Bdoom's post was that the magic circle gave off an aura of being obviously evil (and looks obviously evil), and Rider is capable of detecting magic. Plus, she knows what evil magical energy feels like, since she was connected to Sakura and, therefore, indirectly connected to Angra Mainyu.

Mike, did you just use a A+ rank NP.

You do realize the impact of it getting close would kill Sakura, right?

Bellerophon isn't a beam spam thing, it's just a bridle that can be used to control mounts that cannot otherwise be controlled. Rider can control how it is used. She's not going to use it like she would if she was attacking Saber or similar, she's going to fly down and smash through the doors with just about enough force to get through, without causing widespread damage.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 25, 2014, 04:43:45 AM
Mike. One more thing. The Order (Ivan's trio) are checked in at that hospital, so you kinda shouldn't destroy it and/or risk destroying it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 04:47:52 AM
Mike. One more thing. The Order (Ivan's trio) are checked in at that hospital, so you kinda shouldn't destroy it and/or risk destroying it.

Sakura is inside the hospital. That fact alone ensures it is not going to be destroyed, because neither Faust nor Rider are willing to allow Sakura to come to any harm. And, if Ivan's trio go after Sakura again, they're going to have two servants beating the shit out of them this time. And Rider will actively enjoy hurting them if they are going after Sakura.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 25, 2014, 04:50:49 AM
I don't think Neo's suicidal.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 25, 2014, 04:52:33 AM
inb4 Sakura gets Ninja'd by Henderson or Adjutor.

/jk
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 25, 2014, 05:44:49 AM
Sakura is inside the hospital. That fact alone ensures it is not going to be destroyed, because neither Faust nor Rider are willing to allow Sakura to come to any harm. And, if Ivan's trio go after Sakura again, they're going to have two servants beating the shit out of them this time. And Rider will actively enjoy hurting them if they are going after Sakura.

There are three problems with this:
1. Neo merely insulted Sakura. Just because someone insulted you doesn't mean you have an excuse to kill them.
2. Rattus and Yukina did absolutely nothing to Sakura. In fact, they tried stopping Neo.
3. The Order tried helping her initially but she refused, so Neo insulted her, causing Sakura to attack not just Neo, but the whole Order, despite Neo solely being the culprit.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 25, 2014, 05:47:29 AM
There are three problems with this:
1. Neo merely insulted Sakura. Just because someone insulted you doesn't mean you have an excuse to kill them.
2. Rattus and Yukina did absolutely nothing to Sakura.
3. The Order tried helping her initially but she refused, so Neo insulted her, causing Sakura to attack not just Neo, but the whole Order, despite Neo solely being the culprit.

Can the Order escape under their own power?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 25, 2014, 06:42:51 AM
Can the Order escape under their own power?

Neo can at least sense it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 10:41:48 AM
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The impression I got from Bdoom's post was that the magic circle gave off an aura of being obviously evil (and looks obviously evil), and Rider is capable of detecting magic. Plus, she knows what evil magical energy feels like, since she was connected to Sakura and, therefore, indirectly connected to Angra Mainyu.

Pot calling the kettle black, since you know, Rider's Neutral Evil.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on November 25, 2014, 11:21:41 AM
Bellerophon isn't a beam spam thing, it's just a bridle that can be used to control mounts that cannot otherwise be controlled. Rider can control how it is used. She's not going to use it like she would if she was attacking Saber or similar, she's going to fly down and smash through the doors with just about enough force to get through, without causing widespread damage.

I'm sorry to bug you about this Mike, but I'm not sure Pegasus and Bellerophon can actually do that. To my understanding, the pegasus can splatter humans and shear buildings in half just by flapping its wings too close, even without Medusa using the reigns on him. A+ Anti-Army Noble Phantasms are designed for that sort of thing, after all. I get that your Rider is AU-ish so maybe you have it made differently so it only damages what it touches, like an Anti-Unit NP. I would appreciate clarification on this, since whether or not the hospital gets a side blown out can affect how I roleplay one of the characters I have yet to introduce.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 11:51:29 AM
I assumed Mordred saw the flash made by Bellephoron and she is on the way to see if there are any survivors.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
Sakura is inside the hospital. That fact alone ensures it is not going to be destroyed, because neither Faust nor Rider are willing to allow Sakura to come to any harm. And, if Ivan's trio go after Sakura again, they're going to have two servants beating the shit out of them this time. And Rider will actively enjoy hurting them if they are going after Sakura.

There are three problems with this:
1. Neo merely insulted Sakura. Just because someone insulted you doesn't mean you have an excuse to kill them.
2. Rattus and Yukina did absolutely nothing to Sakura. In fact, they tried stopping Neo.

You think Rider cares about either of these? As far as Rider is concerned, Sakura could randomly attack some guy on the street for absolutely no reason, and if they fought back she would defend Sakura from them 100%.

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3. The Order tried helping her initially but she refused, so Neo insulted her, causing Sakura to attack not just Neo, but the whole Order, despite Neo solely being the culprit.

Well, Neo was being a complete asshole for no reason. As for the rest, they weren't really involved, no, but they did seem to be backing Neo up.

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The impression I got from Bdoom's post was that the magic circle gave off an aura of being obviously evil (and looks obviously evil), and Rider is capable of detecting magic. Plus, she knows what evil magical energy feels like, since she was connected to Sakura and, therefore, indirectly connected to Angra Mainyu.

Pot calling the kettle black, since you know, Rider's Neutral Evil.

No she's not. Nasu claims she is Chaotic Good, but I would call her Chaotic Neutral, personally.

She doesn't hurt people for her own gain, she simply protects those she cares for. That is a Neutral alignment, not an Evil one.

Bellerophon isn't a beam spam thing, it's just a bridle that can be used to control mounts that cannot otherwise be controlled. Rider can control how it is used. She's not going to use it like she would if she was attacking Saber or similar, she's going to fly down and smash through the doors with just about enough force to get through, without causing widespread damage.

I'm sorry to bug you about this Mike, but I'm not sure Pegasus and Bellerophon can actually do that. To my understanding, the pegasus can splatter humans and shear buildings in half just by flapping its wings too close, even without Medusa using the reigns on him. A+ Anti-Army Noble Phantasms are designed for that sort of thing, after all. I get that your Rider is AU-ish so maybe you have it made differently so it only damages what it touches, like an Anti-Unit NP. I would appreciate clarification on this, since whether or not the hospital gets a side blown out can affect how I roleplay one of the characters I have yet to introduce.

Well, Pegasus never got as far as the side of the hospital, so the question is moot. But, whilst you're probably right that Pegasus can cause a lot amount of damage very easily, the damage caused by flying into a wall (which doesn't involve flapping wings) is a matter of Pegasus' momentum and nothing else. If Rider walks along the road very slowly on Pegasus, people aren't going to spontaneously fall down dying. And, it's certainly possible for people other than Rider to be near to Pegasus, even entirely human ones. For example, she uses Pegasus to rescue Shinji in Fate and, whilst her rapid escape does cause damage to the hallway, Shirou and Rin are not harmed by it due to standing out of the direct line of Pegasus' movement.

Also, technically, Pegasus isn't a Noble Phantasm. Bellerophon is the Noble Phantasm, and that is very specifically a set of reins that allows her to control a mount.

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 02:12:18 PM
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You think Rider cares about either of these? As far as Rider is concerned, Sakura could randomly attack some guy on the street for absolutely no reason, and if they fought back she would defend Sakura from them 100%.

She lacks a moral compass if she takes it out on people who just defend themselves from unwarranted aggression.

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No she's not. Nasu claims she is Chaotic Good, but I would call her Chaotic Neutral, personally.

She doesn't hurt people for her own gain, she simply protects those she cares for. That is a Neutral alignment, not an Evil one.

Medea, Medusa, same shit. :p
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 02:14:58 PM
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You think Rider cares about either of these? As far as Rider is concerned, Sakura could randomly attack some guy on the street for absolutely no reason, and if they fought back she would defend Sakura from them 100%.

She lacks a moral compass if she takes it out on people who just defend themselves from unwarranted aggression.

Rider isn't going to go after Neo's group unless Neo's group goes after Sakura first. But, if someone is attempting to hurt Sakura then she will defend Sakura regardless of who is at fault. If Sakura is responsible then she's more likely to show them leniency, though, and at least make an effort not to kill them outright.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 25, 2014, 02:17:28 PM
You think Rider cares about either of these? As far as Rider is concerned, Sakura could randomly attack some guy on the street for absolutely no reason, and if they fought back she would defend Sakura from them 100%.

Then that would put Rider into cahoots with the Nexus police force, since that is considered legally as murder already.

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Well, Neo was being a complete asshole for no reason. As for the rest, they weren't really involved, no, but they did seem to be backing Neo up.

Neo was angered by Sakura's sardonic tone, so he called her out of it in his usual manner. It's not a no-reason barrage of insults.

As for them backing up Neo, it's because Rattus needs him and Yukina still likes him, despite his horrendous attitude.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 25, 2014, 02:18:50 PM
Rider isn't going to go after Neo's group unless Neo's group goes after Sakura first. But, if someone is attempting to hurt Sakura then she will defend Sakura regardless of who is at fault. If Sakura is responsible then she's more likely to show them leniency, though, and at least make an effort not to kill them outright.

Rattus' group did not try to hurt her at first. In fact, they tried to help.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 25, 2014, 02:27:45 PM
Your posts made it clear Neo expected her to attack after that. He's not blameless.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 02:44:19 PM
You think Rider cares about either of these? As far as Rider is concerned, Sakura could randomly attack some guy on the street for absolutely no reason, and if they fought back she would defend Sakura from them 100%.

Then that would put Rider into cahoots with the Nexus police force, since that is considered legally as murder already.

Rider couldn't care less about the Nexus police force. Hell, she doesn't even know the Nexus has a police force (and certainly not one that is powerful enough to threaten her)....

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Well, Neo was being a complete asshole for no reason. As for the rest, they weren't really involved, no, but they did seem to be backing Neo up.

Neo was angered by Sakura's sardonic tone, so he called her out of it in his usual manner. It's not a no-reason barrage of insults.

Neo came up to Sakura and started bothering her, so Sakura told Neo to piss off, and then he acted like a complete dick.

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As for them backing up Neo, it's because Rattus needs him and Yukina still likes him, despite his horrendous attitude.

My point is that they were not uninvolved.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 02:48:05 PM
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Rider couldn't care less about the Nexus police force. Hell, she doesn't even know the Nexus has a police force (and certainly not one that is powerful enough to threaten her)....

Thank God there is Saber in the police force.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 25, 2014, 02:53:42 PM
Rider couldn't care less about the Nexus police force. Hell, she doesn't even know the Nexus has a police force (and certainly not one that is powerful enough to threaten her)....

Saber is in the Nexus police force.

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Neo came up to Sakura and started bothering her, so Sakura told Neo to piss off, and then he acted like a complete dick.

Nope. They came up to her, offered help, Sakura refused it sardonically, Rattus just offered her a business card and then they were about to leave, when Neo had to insult her first before leaving. Then voilah, Sakura just snapped and attacked the three for the fault of one.

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My point is that they were not uninvolved.

But they weren't. In fact, Rattus just handed out a business card instead, while Yukina just kept her mouth shut the whole time, only speaking to make Neo stop mouthing her off.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 02:57:18 PM
I like how Mike has made Rider an enemy of a bunch of people in CE already.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 03:04:13 PM
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Rider couldn't care less about the Nexus police force. Hell, she doesn't even know the Nexus has a police force (and certainly not one that is powerful enough to threaten her)....

Thank God there is Saber in the police force.

Rider has no particular reason to go against the police force. She's not intending to go around killing people without reason or anything like that.

Rider couldn't care less about the Nexus police force. Hell, she doesn't even know the Nexus has a police force (and certainly not one that is powerful enough to threaten her)....

Saber is in the Nexus police force.

And what possible reason would Rider have for knowing that at this stage?

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Neo came up to Sakura and started bothering her, so Sakura told Neo to piss off, and then he acted like a complete dick.

Nope. They came up to her, offered help, Sakura refused it sardonically, Rattus just offered her a business card and then they were about to leave, when Neo had to insult her first before leaving. Then voilah, Sakura just snapped and attacked the three for the fault of one.

They came up to her and offered help. She said she didn't need it, but they continued to pester her anyway, because obviously no-one is allowed to reject them, until Neo insulted Sakura and Sakura snapped. As for attacking the three, they were pretty obviously a group, and Sakura was obviously angry.

I like how Mike has made Rider an enemy of a bunch of people in CE already.

OK, firstly, Rider never blew the fucking doors off the hospital. If you read the post I made, Pegasus never got that far. So, I don't know what the hell caused the damage Henderson is seeing.

Secondly, Rider has so far made an enemy of absolutely no-one. She's not attacking Saber or anyone else. The only people she is an enemy of is anyone who tries to harm Sakura, or anyone who attacks Rider first. Neither of those are remotely unreasonable. If someone attacks you, you fight back, regardless of who they are or why they're attacking, and if someone is trying to harm the person you will protect above anything then obviously you're going to protect that person. That is just common sense.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 03:12:10 PM
Erm, it still says that the doors have been destroyed. Nothing has happened to cause that destruction. All of the fighting has been very carefully aimed at places where Sakura isn't.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 25, 2014, 03:13:53 PM
Erm, it still says that the doors have been destroyed. Nothing has happened to cause that destruction. All of the fighting has been very carefully aimed at places where Sakura isn't.

One of the beams Faust fired off did it. The smaller ones. According to Bdoom, they flew about in a random pattern and he said it wouldn't be a stretch to for some of them to hit the building.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 03:15:18 PM
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Secondly, Rider has so far made an enemy of absolutely no-one. She's not attacking Saber or anyone else. The only people she is an enemy of is anyone who tries to harm Sakura, or anyone who attacks Rider first. Neither of those are remotely unreasonable. If someone attacks you, you fight back, regardless of who they are or why they're attacking, and if someone is trying to harm the person you will protect above anything then obviously you're going to protect that person. That is just common sense.

She is attacking Faustus. Fleeting acquittance of my character, and unfortunately she cannot stand up to Rider in direct combat, but will try her best in the situation if she arrives on the scene before it is all settled.

At least my Mordred would trust Faustus who already kept his word once over a complete stranger who is attacking him.

---

Also Deborah spying on Forest, Shirou and co (but haven't heard any details of their convos yet), but unfortunately for her stairs betrayed her presence.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 03:20:03 PM
Erm, it still says that the doors have been destroyed. Nothing has happened to cause that destruction. All of the fighting has been very carefully aimed at places where Sakura isn't.

One of the beams Faust fired off did it. The smaller ones. According to Bdoom, they flew about in a random pattern and he said it wouldn't be a stretch to for some of them to hit the building.

OK, fair enough, I guess, although it seems odd that he'd be so careless with Sakura inside the building, and no-one noticed the damage before....

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Secondly, Rider has so far made an enemy of absolutely no-one. She's not attacking Saber or anyone else. The only people she is an enemy of is anyone who tries to harm Sakura, or anyone who attacks Rider first. Neither of those are remotely unreasonable. If someone attacks you, you fight back, regardless of who they are or why they're attacking, and if someone is trying to harm the person you will protect above anything then obviously you're going to protect that person. That is just common sense.

She is attacking Faustus. Fleeting acquittance of my character, and unfortunately she cannot stand up to Rider in direct combat, but will try her best in the situation if she arrives on the scene before it is all settled.

No, she's not. Rider hasn't made a single attack on Faust the entire time, she just jumped on Pegasus and headed for Sakura.

She was just walking along minding her own business and he suddenly attacked her out of nowhere. What is she meant to do? Just stand there and let him kill her? And, if your character shows up, I'd expect Sakura (and, by extension, Faust) to take Rider's side over hers. Rider is someone Sakura cares for and trusts, after all.

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At least my Mordred would trust Faustus who already kept his word once over a complete stranger who is attacking him.

You have a really fucked-up definition of "attacking" which seems to include "doing absolutely nothing to provoke him aside from existing and then making no effort whatsoever to cause him harm whilst dodging his attacks"....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 03:26:16 PM
Mordred saw what she was, I mean flash of light near in a district full of civilians. At very least, if she learns Rider is behind it, she will be pissed off about going gungho with super powers around civilians.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 03:26:42 PM
OK, for Christ's sake, Ivan, the hospital is not that badly damaged. Pegasus never even touched it, and a few of Faust's light beams hitting the doors is not going to cause the entire building to collapse.

Mordred saw what she was, I mean flash of light near in a district full of civilians. At very least, if she learns Rider is behind it, she will be pissed off about going gungho with super powers around civilians.

And Faust spamming fucking magic attacks all over the city doesn't bother her? Rider wasn't going fucking "gung-ho", she was fucking defending herself. What else was she supposed to do?

Still, if your character is determined to be a fucking idiot, then that's your choice. You're the one who is responsible for the consequences, not me or Rider.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 25, 2014, 03:28:19 PM
And what possible reason would Rider have for knowing that at this stage?

You do said that no one in the police force is powerful enough to threaten her.

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They came up to her and offered help. She said she didn't need it, but they continued to pester her anyway, because obviously no-one is allowed to reject them, until Neo insulted Sakura and Sakura snapped. As for attacking the three, they were pretty obviously a group, and Sakura was obviously angry.

They were about to leave after Rattus handed out the card. Neo just insulted her before leaving. They didn't continue to pester her. Read the damn backlog and see for yourself.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 03:33:53 PM
And what possible reason would Rider have for knowing that at this stage?

You do said that no one in the police force is powerful enough to threaten her.

No, I said that Rider doesn't expect there to be anyone in the police force who is powerful enough to threaten her.

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They came up to her and offered help. She said she didn't need it, but they continued to pester her anyway, because obviously no-one is allowed to reject them, until Neo insulted Sakura and Sakura snapped. As for attacking the three, they were pretty obviously a group, and Sakura was obviously angry.

They were about to leave after Rattus handed out the card. Neo just insulted her before leaving. They didn't continue to pester her. Read the damn backlog and see for yourself.

Yeah, I've read the backlog, and the first thing Neo says, even before Sakura says no is "this bitch is crazy". Not exactly the best way to endear yourself to someone....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 25, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
Yeah, I've read the backlog, and the first thing Neo says, even before Sakura says no is "this bitch is crazy". Not exactly the best way to endear yourself to someone....

Yes, but he did also say that they should get out of there because Neo thinks she is crazy, as if he just wants to leave her alone because she doesn't want help. But then, after Rattus hands out the card, Neo started his rant against her, and then they were about to leave when she attacked.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 25, 2014, 03:38:54 PM
That rant pretty much hit all her triggers.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 25, 2014, 03:40:16 PM
No, I said that Rider doesn't expect there to be anyone in the police force who is powerful enough to threaten her.

Nope. You specifically said:

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[...](and certainly not one that is powerful enough to threaten her)....


Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 03:46:10 PM
Yeah, I've read the backlog, and the first thing Neo says, even before Sakura says no is "this bitch is crazy". Not exactly the best way to endear yourself to someone....

Yes, but he did also say that they should get out of there because Neo thinks she is crazy, as if he just wants to leave her alone because she doesn't want help. But then, after Rattus hands out the card, Neo started his rant against her, and then they were about to leave when she attacked.

Sure, but Neo was still being constantly insulting throughout the discussion (calling someone "crazy" to their face is definitely insulting). Given the "crazy" jibe, you can't blame Sakura for being snarky back and, whilst I don't really think she was right to attack Neo, nor was he right to respond to her natural annoyance at his comment with more insults, and she was very definitely provoked.

No, I said that Rider doesn't expect there to be anyone in the police force who is powerful enough to threaten her.

Nope. You specifically said:

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[...](and certainly not one that is powerful enough to threaten her)....


Yes, and the Bible says "God does not exist". You can prove just about anything by taking quotes out of context.

If you look at what I actually said, in full context, you'll find that the meaning is very different:

Hell, she doesn't even know the Nexus has a police force (and certainly not one that is powerful enough to threaten her)....

The first part of the statement, outside the brackets, refers to Rider's knowledge of the existence of the police force. Given that, it should be obvious that the second part, inside the bracket, is also referring to what Rider expects, and not the actual reality of the situation.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 25, 2014, 04:00:08 PM
Sure, but Neo was still being constantly insulting throughout the discussion (calling someone "crazy" to their face is definitely insulting). Given the "crazy" jibe, you can't blame Sakura for being snarky back and, whilst I don't really think she was right to attack Neo, nor was he right to respond to her natural annoyance at his comment with more insults, and she was very definitely provoked.

Well, the first thing Sakura said to Rattus after he offered help was "No, I don't. Do I know you?" or something like that in a sardonic tone. She was already snarky before the insults at her.

And even then, you can't justify shooting someone who simply called you crazy, because that only proves you are one.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 04:00:34 PM
The Knight of The Summer to the 'rescue'.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 25, 2014, 04:01:44 PM
This is starting to become a serious clusterfuck. Good luck to anyone still in there.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 25, 2014, 04:04:25 PM
Have you guys really been arguing about the meta-justification of in-character actions since this morning?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 04:05:02 PM
It's all Mordred's damn luck and being unable to ignore every flash of light and explosion.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 25, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
Also, who's David Archer? Can't find no sheet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 25, 2014, 04:11:45 PM
YOLF, you beautiful human being you! :D

git in the skype i can't solve all this alone
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 04:15:46 PM
This is starting to become a serious clusterfuck. Good luck to anyone still in there.

Well, Rider and Faust have currently stopped fighting, and I doubt they will start again with Sakura around. Rider is unlikely to be overly threatening to Mordred, because she'd assume she's Saber, and she knows Saber is not going to kill Sakura without reason.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 04:18:09 PM
It happened so quickly Mordred is all "What".

Imagine that face Rin made in UBW anime.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 04:27:31 PM
OK, Bdoom, please take back that post. You never gave me the chance to respond to your last one.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 04:32:11 PM
I understand he does not want to get Miked.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 04:33:07 PM
I understand he does not want to get Miked.

Fuck you, asshole. I'm fucking sick of you cunts using your fucking private chat to plan how to gang up on me.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 25, 2014, 04:36:54 PM
Okay, seriously, cool the fuck down, and Kat, do not make that kind of derogatory implications again. You're walking on thin ice as it is with the baiting you've done in the past at lantz.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 04:44:35 PM
Okay, I won't do anymore.

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 05:09:40 PM
OK, Bdoom is fine to post with Faust (as long as he lets Rider react to his actions), since he hasn't used Faust since my previous post. Everyone else (which currently is just Mordred) involved in the situation should wait until I get home and have a chance to write a post of my own.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 25, 2014, 05:09:48 PM
Hey Mike, not bdoom's fault you went full retard and decided to attack a FUCKING HOSPITAL.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 05:15:50 PM
Hey Mike, not bdoom's fault you went full retard and decided to attack a FUCKING HOSPITAL.

Except that I never attacked the hospital. Firstly, Rider was going to smash down the doors, nothing more and, secondly, Rider never even did that, because Pegasus was intercepted in mid air. Rider has done literally no damage to the hospital, or to anything else for that matter. All of the damage that has been done so far has come from Faust's attacks.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 07:07:19 PM
Okay, I will wait for Mike patiently.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 07:23:48 PM
It won't be too long, I should be back home in a couple of hours maximum.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 07:24:44 PM
I'm in no hurry, I could post my other character soon.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 25, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
Hey Mike, not bdoom's fault you went full retard and decided to attack a FUCKING HOSPITAL.

Except that I never attacked the hospital. Firstly, Rider was going to smash down the doors, nothing more and, secondly, Rider never even did that, because Pegasus was intercepted in mid air. Rider has done literally no damage to the hospital, or to anything else for that matter. All of the damage that has been done so far has come from Faust's attacks.

Regardless, you have to admit that a Servant fight in a hospital could have ended a lot worse, especially with Rider busting out an A-Rank NP, even if nothing happened this time.

In this light, would you kindly wait until Sakura isn't in an area with that much potential for collateral damage before pursuing? Additionally, doesn't Rider usually go for a more subtle approach if one is available(Example: Fate route bad end at the temple, she specifically keeps Saber from reaching Shirou so she can't cancel the teleport that leads to Shirou getting his ass killed.)?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 09:02:36 PM
Rider also displayed capability of planning ahead to choose such battleground where she could take on Saber (until Excalibur got fired, that is).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 09:19:50 PM
Oh, right, something about Deb I got slightly wrong. She is using Obfuscate 1, so other characters will gloss over likely the fact stairs creaked. My bad and thanks to Yolf for reminding.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 09:25:46 PM
Regardless, you have to admit that a Servant fight in a hospital could have ended a lot worse, especially with Rider busting out an A-Rank NP, even if nothing happened this time.

In this light, would you kindly wait until Sakura isn't in an area with that much potential for collateral damage before pursuing? Additionally, doesn't Rider usually go for a more subtle approach if one is available(Example: Fate route bad end at the temple, she specifically keeps Saber from reaching Shirou so she can't cancel the teleport that leads to Shirou getting his ass killed.)?

Rider was worried that Faust might hurt Sakura. She had to get to her to make sure she was safe. Plus, Rider didn't start the fight, Faust did. Rider had the option of either running away and leaving Sakura at the mercy of a potential madman or trying to grab Sakura and get her the hell out of there.

And, Rider couldn't care less about "collateral damage". Not when Sakura's life is at stake. Plus, in any case, Rider hasn't started a fight, or performed any sort of offensive action whatsoever. You really should be asking Bdoom these questions, not me.

Rider also displayed capability of planning ahead to choose such battleground where she could take on Saber (until Excalibur got fired, that is).

Yes, but Rider didn't choose to fight this battle, and Sakura is potentially vulnerable. Rider was massively constrained by circumstances here.

And, she knows fighting is a bad idea. That's why she intended to grab Sakura. She just didn't expect Faust to run straight for Sakura before she could get to her.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 09:33:44 PM
Why italics? It's clear it's Bdoom.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 25, 2014, 10:10:50 PM
Because I'm apparently a super speshul chocolately fudge sunday snowflake, obviously.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 25, 2014, 10:13:53 PM
a super speshul chocolately fudge sunday snowflake

That actually sounds remarkably tasty.

I should eat lunch now...
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 10:17:51 PM
Let's end memeposting for now.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 25, 2014, 10:20:34 PM
Sure, that's enough.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 10:46:01 PM
Erm, Kat, you do realise that a) Faust dematerialised first and b) Sakura is still in the room, right?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 10:50:41 PM
Bdoom told me in PM Faust is materialized now.

I know Sakura is, but Mordred "roots" for Sakura's escape and prepares in advance.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 10:54:27 PM
Bdoom told me in PM Faust is materialized now.

When Faust materialises, Rider will also do so pretty much instantaneously. Her goal is to stop him getting to Sakura, after all, and she can't do that if he's materialised and she isn't.

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I know Sakura is, but Mordred "roots" for Sakura's escape and prepares in advance.

That's not what your post sounded like, though. And, Sakura is not going to get away from Rider. Rider is faster than Faust, and will not let him "kidnap" Sakura.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 10:56:57 PM
Mike, do you realize you should address Bdoom, not me?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 11:26:20 PM
Again, Kat, you have to wait for me to respond. Rider would already have re-materialised by the time Mordred gets a chance to act.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 25, 2014, 11:28:38 PM
Talking is a free action
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 25, 2014, 11:29:48 PM
It's not like we implemented rigid mechanics governing time.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 11:33:06 PM
Talking is a free action

Not to that extent.

It's not like we implemented rigid mechanics governing time.

No, but we each get to react to what the others do and say, and we should do one post at a time. Rider will materalise in my post before you reply. It's up to you if you take that into account or not.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 25, 2014, 11:35:49 PM
She literally just said k thanks.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2014, 11:37:17 PM
She literally just said k thanks.

That's fine. If Kat wants to leave the post then that's OK, it doesn't affect mine much. I'm just not altering mine to account for it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 26, 2014, 12:50:59 AM
Mordred's fighting Lancelot. Life > money.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 26, 2014, 12:57:03 AM
I bet my money on the rabid dog.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 26, 2014, 01:15:57 AM
I have a plan to survive longer.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 26, 2014, 01:30:06 AM
Throw him a bone?
Well, pray luck is in your favor.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 26, 2014, 01:38:22 AM
If faust deals with medusa he'll move to aid mordred.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 26, 2014, 01:41:44 AM
OK, Faust is just plain ridiculous. He has a shield that Rider literally cannot break with anything short of Bellerophon (I've asked), that moves with him when he moves, doesn't need to be taken down to cast other spells and which he can allow people who he wants to pass through through. It requires no prep time and seems to have little mana cost. And it's not even mentioned on his sheet beyond a generic "he has spells" thing. It's not even his most powerful spell, either.

How is Faust not too OP? It is quite literally impossible for Rider to fight him, or just about anyone else who can't spam extremely high-powered magic or Noble Phantasms.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 26, 2014, 01:45:43 AM
Somebody should have picked Shiki.
The guy eats OP for lunch.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Mooncake on November 26, 2014, 01:58:14 AM
OK, Faust is just plain ridiculous. He has a shield that Rider literally cannot break with anything short of Bellerophon (I've asked), that moves with him when he moves, doesn't need to be taken down to cast other spells and which he can allow people who he wants to pass through through. It requires no prep time and seems to have little mana cost. And it's not even mentioned on his sheet beyond a generic "he has spells" thing. It's not even his most powerful spell, either.

How is Faust not too OP? It is quite literally impossible for Rider to fight him, or just about anyone else who can't spam extremely high-powered magic or Noble Phantasms.

>Caster
>Made a deal with the Devil himself
>Still complaining about this after ~ two hours

If you're so upset, just wait for the GMs. Bdoom just revised his post, too.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 26, 2014, 02:18:27 AM
OK, Faust is just plain ridiculous. He has a shield that Rider literally cannot break with anything short of Bellerophon (I've asked), that moves with him when he moves, doesn't need to be taken down to cast other spells and which he can allow people who he wants to pass through through. It requires no prep time and seems to have little mana cost. And it's not even mentioned on his sheet beyond a generic "he has spells" thing. It's not even his most powerful spell, either.

How is Faust not too OP? It is quite literally impossible for Rider to fight him, or just about anyone else who can't spam extremely high-powered magic or Noble Phantasms.

>Caster
>Made a deal with the Devil himself
>Still complaining about this after ~ two hours

Yeah, my point is that he's OP. And, this is the first time I posted a complaint on here. Elf and Names don't read the backlog of the CE chat (or any other chat), whereas I would expect they do read posts on the forum.

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If you're so upset, just wait for the GMs. Bdoom just revised his post, too.

Yes, I am waiting for them. And, Bdoom's change to his post doesn't affect the shield stuff.

Honestly, at very least I think his sheet needs more detail. Something like that shield needs to be explained better.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 26, 2014, 02:19:00 AM
OK, Faust is just plain ridiculous. He has a shield that Rider literally cannot break with anything short of Bellerophon (I've asked), that moves with him when he moves, doesn't need to be taken down to cast other spells and which he can allow people who he wants to pass through through. It requires no prep time and seems to have little mana cost. And it's not even mentioned on his sheet beyond a generic "he has spells" thing. It's not even his most powerful spell, either.

How is Faust not too OP? It is quite literally impossible for Rider to fight him, or just about anyone else who can't spam extremely high-powered magic or Noble Phantasms.

WELCOME TO THE POWER OF A MAN WHO SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL HIMSELF.

Seriously Mike, chill. You're kinda being a petty little shit about this just because Bdoom doesn't want his Caster ganked or you to you know, try to write a fanfic with his Sakura.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 26, 2014, 02:23:07 AM
OK, Faust is just plain ridiculous. He has a shield that Rider literally cannot break with anything short of Bellerophon (I've asked), that moves with him when he moves, doesn't need to be taken down to cast other spells and which he can allow people who he wants to pass through through. It requires no prep time and seems to have little mana cost. And it's not even mentioned on his sheet beyond a generic "he has spells" thing. It's not even his most powerful spell, either.

How is Faust not too OP? It is quite literally impossible for Rider to fight him, or just about anyone else who can't spam extremely high-powered magic or Noble Phantasms.

WELCOME TO THE POWER OF A MAN WHO SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL HIMSELF.

Seriously Mike, chill. You're kinda being a petty little shit about this just because Bdoom doesn't want his Caster ganked or you to you know, try to write a fanfic with his Sakura.

I don't mind him not wanting Faust ganked. I do mind me having literally no way to even try to fight him. Particularly since Rider is not going to let him run away with Sakura.

As for the Sakura thing, I discussed the whole idea with Bdoom before I had Rider arrive in the Nexus, and he is the one who attacked me, not the other way around. None of this situation was caused by Rider's actions, at all.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 26, 2014, 02:25:48 AM
Faust is not one to be killed with strenght, why not try to defeat him trough guile and trickery?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 26, 2014, 02:30:24 AM
Faust is not one to be killed with strenght, why not try to defeat him trough guile and trickery?


You are now my personal hero. Whatever you may have done in the past, I now love you (no homo) for your understanding of the need for more subtle tactics when faced with overwhelming power.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 26, 2014, 02:36:12 AM
Faust is not one to be killed with strenght, why not try to defeat him trough guile and trickery?

Because he has a fucking shield that cannot be broken. Nothing much you can do about that....

Also, the problem is that he has Sakura. Rider is worried about what he might do to her.

I don't expect Rider to brute-force him. Hell, the stuff with Pegasus was pretty much exactly what you're suggesting. But, right now, Rider's priority is Sakura. She can't allow him to take her away and sacrifice her to his evil gods or whatever other nefarious thing Rider probably thinks he's going to do once she's out of range....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 26, 2014, 02:41:14 AM
Why not use sakura against him?
He clearly needs her to be around, so find a way to create a rift between them.
Rider knows sakura well, you should thus know how to trigger a divide between them, and use it to defeat him.
He is after al her servant, she has a veto right on all his decisions for now, make her use it!
Be diplomatic, do not fight either, you will clearly lose.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 26, 2014, 02:43:54 AM
Why not use sakura against him?
He clearly needs her to be around, so find a way to create a rift between them.
Rider knows sakura well, you should thus know how to trigger a divide between them, and use it to defeat him.
He is after al her servant, she has a veto right on all his decisions for now, make her use it!
Be diplomatic, do not fight either, you will clearly lose.

Because Rider assumes he is attacking Sakura (or attempting to kidnap her). If she knew Sakura was going with him willingly, there would be no fight, because Sakura is all Rider cares about right now. And Sakura has so far given no indication to Rider that she knows Faust (both Rider and Faust have claimed to be her servant, but neither believes it).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 26, 2014, 02:46:37 AM
Then instead of picking a fight with the allmighty devil, find a way to prove it!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 26, 2014, 02:57:29 AM
Then instead of picking a fight with the allmighty devil, find a way to prove it!

He's grabbed her and is trying to stop Rider rescuing her. What more proof does she need...?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 26, 2014, 03:00:32 AM
That is something you must figure out young padawan.
If you truly wish to save sakura, you must use a sharp tongue and your wits, not your strength.
There are many ways to approach it, surely you can think up of one.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 26, 2014, 03:05:27 AM
That is something you must figure out young padawan.
If you truly wish to save sakura, you must use a sharp tongue and your wits, not your strength.
There are many ways to approach it, surely you can think up of one.
Having GM'd for Mike...

He can't even come up with one most of the time.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 26, 2014, 03:08:18 AM
That is something you must figure out young padawan.
If you truly wish to save sakura, you must use a sharp tongue and your wits, not your strength.
There are many ways to approach it, surely you can think up of one.

I'm talking of Rider's viewpoint here. Obviously OOCly she can't prove something that isn't true.

But, aside from Sakura speaking up, I don't see how Rider can prove anything here. No-one in the room knows her, and any action Faust takes that doesn't cause harm to Sakura fits with his story just as much as with hers. Even if she was correct, I don't think there's anything she can do to convince people that Faust is a kidnapper that doesn't also result in harm to Sakura.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 26, 2014, 03:08:38 AM
No need to be so acidic about it.
Trying to help you there, Mike, you should try to think outside the box, think of a way to appease Faust, to at the very least talk things out.
He is the devil, you cannot defeat the devil without beating him at his own game, and once you do, there is nothing he can do.
Challenge him to play fiddle or something for pete's sake.
Just dont fight.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 26, 2014, 03:14:34 AM
No need to be so acidic about it.
Trying to help you there, Mike, you should try to think outside the box, think of a way to appease Faust, to at the very least talk things out.
He is the devil, you cannot defeat the devil without beating him at his own game, and once you do, there is nothing he can do.
Challenge him to play fiddle or something for pete's sake.
Just dont fight.
this
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 26, 2014, 03:17:05 AM
No need to be so acidic about it.
Trying to help you there, Mike, you should try to think outside the box, think of a way to appease Faust, to at the very least talk things out.
He is the devil, you cannot defeat the devil without beating him at his own game, and once you do, there is nothing he can do.
Challenge him to play fiddle or something for pete's sake.
Just dont fight.

The problem is that I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about Rider. And Rider considers Faust to be trying to hurt Sakura. There's nothing I can see to "appease" there. I'll have a look and see how Rider might react, but so far she has expressed her desire to protect Sakura several times, and Faust is not listening.

Also, Faust isn't the devil. He made a deal with the devil. That's not the same thing. Challenging him to a game won't work.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 26, 2014, 03:20:17 AM
that wasn't the point.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 26, 2014, 07:02:05 AM
I've already posted as a reply to Henderson, Panda. I'm just waiting.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on November 26, 2014, 09:55:12 AM
Kat I apologize if you think that I overstepped my bounds in my last post, I had to push the timeline a bit (and get out of the building) to keep pace with all the other happenings at the hospital. Skype me if you want me to retcon something.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 26, 2014, 11:56:17 AM
Only the last part was ambiguous, but I had that explained.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 26, 2014, 01:41:15 PM
Yo Kat, the next time I post with Fore, can I have her at least sense that someone's spying on her?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 26, 2014, 01:49:57 PM
Yolf generally said that not, but I could rule that little enmity towards Forest's attitude leaked through in spite of use Obfuscate, so she could. Dramatic twists over mechanics when appropiate.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 26, 2014, 04:22:12 PM
Submitted my Magic: the Gathering OC character profile. Willing, ready, and able to modify and edit should there be any issues with it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 26, 2014, 04:35:06 PM
Basically, you should wait for feedback from either Nachos or Elf if they don't accept it after first reading.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 26, 2014, 04:39:15 PM
Basically, you should wait for feedback from either Nachos or Elf if they don't accept it after first reading.
I knew and know that; just wanted to be sure that Elf and Nachos knew that I wouldn't feel utterly and completely heartbroken if they want me to change anything. =P
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 26, 2014, 05:00:42 PM
Unless something really went wrong in the first stage of character making, Nachos will be merciful :p
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 27, 2014, 10:40:04 AM
Posted already, just waiting for the panda to reply.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 27, 2014, 11:02:13 AM
Sorry. Was asleep.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 27, 2014, 02:23:58 PM
Lol, did Faust miss the rather-powerful heroic spirit declaring that she would protect Sakura with her life?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 27, 2014, 03:27:39 PM
Can you guys hold on a bit, and let Rider reply, please.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 27, 2014, 03:56:35 PM
My god, this is about to turn into storytime with Henderson. And Neo is going to miss the whole thing.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 27, 2014, 05:07:26 PM
Knick, where for art thou?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 27, 2014, 08:05:30 PM
I wait for Daniel to expand my post. I don't know if Smoldergrip or Solar Fla- Battle Bright would work on Lancelot.

Battle Bright would also temporarily blind everyone near Mordred.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 27, 2014, 10:33:36 PM
I guess Elf and Nachos are busy today. Don't want to assume, but I suppose Elf has Thanksgiving stuff with RoadBuster. Don't know about Nachos, though.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 27, 2014, 10:37:01 PM
School and job I suspect.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 27, 2014, 10:42:29 PM
School and job I suspect.
More than likely. I suppose a 4 day weekend for Thanksgiving - and spending all of today relaxing - has thrown me off on being aware of that, haha. ^^;
outside of college I truly am a NEET ;w;
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 27, 2014, 10:58:46 PM
Since the Elementals show up in his profile and they sound like summonable mooks for him, I'd like some basic stats and details on them if you please.

(Green and White deck?  I played Green/Blue.)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 27, 2014, 11:33:07 PM
Since the Elementals show up in his profile and they sound like summonable mooks for him, I'd like some basic stats and details on them if you please.
I'm not quite sure how to transition them from card to RPing, but...
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=140219 (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=140219) - Horde of Notions, his strongest Elemental summon, which in effect is really kind of like The Wild Hunt, but with only Elementals.
Supreme Exemplar and Doomgape, which devours everything it can while healing Than'Sanel, could work as a "last resorts", I guess? They're both 10/10 but with specific requirements.

Dawnfluke protects against damage.
Shriekmaw, Wispmare, and Ingot Chewer have destroy effects.
Briarhorn and Meadowboon give other summons a boost.
Reveillark lets him call previously used and de-summoned creatures that are "weaker" attack-wise.
Spitebellows deals direct damage.
Walker of the Grove and Spawnwrithe make tokens.
Plumeveil is a flying defender. No real special ability.
Morselhoarder allows him access to more magic energy.
Thunderblust is acts as a direct damage attack.
Flickerwisp exiles something for a "turn".
Spitemare takes damage and, while being injured or destroyed, returns that same amount of damage back to its attacker.
Yeah... ^^;

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(Green and White deck?  I played Green/Blue.)
Well, I play Standard Abzan, which is Green/White and Black.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 28, 2014, 12:57:52 AM
Also since me and Daniel agreed that Lancelot's sight got affected and his MR is non-existent, just reminder to Bdoom to be reasonable when using magecraft.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 28, 2014, 03:10:03 AM
To put it another way, Than'Sanel's strongest Elementals are:
1. Horde of Notions: a 5/5 all-colored Trample, Vigilance, Haste that can return Elementals from "death" for one of each color.
2. Supreme Exemplar: a 10/10 blue Flyer that can only be summoned if another Elemental is exiled/sacrificed.
3. Doomgape: a 10/10 green/black hybrid Trample that forces the summoner to sacrifice another creature. It heals the summoner for the sacrificed creature's toughness (HP).

Don't really know how to put that in RP terms, though.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 28, 2014, 03:33:05 AM
Edit: I removed the flesh golem part of my post before people replied to it. After going back and thinking about it I found it unnecessary to add that amount of shit to the situation.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on November 28, 2014, 06:46:44 AM
My god, this is about to turn into storytime with Henderson. And Neo is going to miss the whole thing.

Neo deserves it, don't worry about him.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 28, 2014, 08:06:25 AM
Hey, sorry about this, but before anyone replies to Grenth's mook, I got rid of that. It is enough of a shitstorm already without having to deal with a the Flesh Golem
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 28, 2014, 07:11:33 PM
Okay, once Lancelot regains his sight I agreed with Daniel it's possible to use a Contract to redirect his wrath elsewhere, but only on people he is aware of. Mordred will like shit about that, but she's that desperate now.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 28, 2014, 07:41:58 PM
Who would she re-direct it onto?

Also, I'm not here this weekend, so if anything involving Rider happens you'll probably have to wait until Sunday to resolve it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 28, 2014, 07:52:29 PM
As far as I know he cannot be aware of Rider, so likely somebody else. Daniel said so far only Faustus is there, charging spell at Lancelot.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 28, 2014, 09:32:40 PM
Yes, Saber and Fore killed a Sacchin together.

Isn't it sad?

Lyco, please put this in the sheet.  Give the summons stats like they were minor characters, please.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 28, 2014, 09:41:19 PM
Yes, Saber and Fore killed a Sacchin together.
Isn't it sad?
;A;
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Lyco, please put this in the sheet.  Give the summons stats like they were minor characters, please.
Apologies, Elf. Transfered my previous two posts' contents - applicable as they are - to his character sheet.
I really don't know how to stat the others, though...
[edit]
I suppose Supernatural in all attributes and "Medium" Magic could work?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 28, 2014, 09:46:14 PM
That could work, but give them a limit of how long they can be summoned just to make things fair.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 28, 2014, 09:51:01 PM
That could work, but give them a limit of how long they can be summoned just to make things fair.
Hm...I added into his Weaknesses the "four-of" and "Legend" rule from MtG as some added flavor, so only 1 Horde of Notions at a time.
Not quite sure about a time limit. Probably several hours.

I considered making the Lorwyn-Morningtide Elementals stronger in the day and weaker at night, and vice versa for the Shadowmoor-Eventide ones, though.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 29, 2014, 02:48:48 AM
Already so lewd in Velvet Room. =P
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 29, 2014, 12:08:10 PM
I don't know myself how I could enter Velvet Room with Mordred, since escalating so quickly into smut would be awkward. First drown sorrows cause she is jobbing so hard in CE proper.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 29, 2014, 01:08:44 PM
I don't know myself how I could enter Velvet Room with Mordred, since escalating so quickly into smut would be awkward. First drown sorrows cause she is jobbing so hard in CE proper.

I'm trying to work out how to send Rider in too. She doesn't really even need a costume change....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 29, 2014, 01:48:23 PM
I prefer to start with SoL like shenanigans first.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 29, 2014, 01:52:23 PM
Yeah, I would like to do some lemon scenes, but I'm not sure there's anyone who will do stuff I'm interested in.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 29, 2014, 02:01:00 PM
I prefer to start with SoL like shenanigans first.
Same here.
And yay, Than'Sanel got approved!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 29, 2014, 02:05:57 PM
Certainly Mordred would not be interested IC in BDSM.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 29, 2014, 02:52:35 PM
Certainly Mordred would not be interested IC in BDSM.

I wasn't expecting her to be, really. I'm just wondering if there is anyone who would be (it doesn't have to be ridiculously extreme).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 29, 2014, 02:55:55 PM
Ask around here or in the chat, maybe.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 29, 2014, 04:03:39 PM
Ask around here or in the chat, maybe.

Yeah, I guess.

Well, is anyone willing to do BDSM stuff (and has a character who plausibly could)?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 29, 2014, 04:06:12 PM
I have a character, but I'm not sure I'm willing(like, maybe 10% chance max?)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on November 29, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
Got my character in. Probably keep him as a bartender cuz #OPproblems.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 29, 2014, 04:55:27 PM
And he was approved.  Seriously, you had me at, "A mix of Cu and Kojiro".
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 29, 2014, 05:09:56 PM
The Legendary Strength might have been a bit much I feel.

Just cause he has a space rending magic does not make him stronger than basically everyone else.

Hell, because he has space rending magic makes his strength almost completely irrelevant and impossible to tell from his feats
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on November 29, 2014, 05:10:10 PM
And he was approved.  Seriously, you had me at, "A mix of Cu and Kojiro".

(http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/606/f8c/d2f/resized/jack-sparrow-meme-generator-excited-i-know-right-2007ba.jpg)

The Legendary Strength might have been a bit much I feel.

Just cause he has a space rending magic does not make him stronger than basically everyone else.

Yeah I can kick it down to Supernatural then.

Edit: Also, it's not magic. He has no magical powers at all. Just his swordsmanship.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 29, 2014, 08:27:10 PM
I have a character, but I'm not sure I'm willing(like, maybe 10% chance max?)

Which one?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 29, 2014, 08:45:43 PM
If you had any guys, I'd consider it.  Just as long as it didn't go too far into painful torture territory.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on November 29, 2014, 10:03:10 PM
You'd have to sacrifice one of your planned characters, just keep that in mind. Because I doubt you'd want to use Papa Shirou because he's married. It might be good for you, actually, to spice up your lineup with someone new.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 29, 2014, 10:17:06 PM
I have a character, but I'm not sure I'm willing(like, maybe 10% chance max?)

Which one?
Faustus, but as I said, 10% chance maximum
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 30, 2014, 02:05:08 AM
If you had any guys, I'd consider it.  Just as long as it didn't go too far into painful torture territory.

Yeah, unfortunately, part of the point is that I'd like the sub to be Rider (well, her or Sakura, but Sakura is most likely out for obvious reasons), or at least a girl I find generally more attractive. So, sending in a guy for it kind-of defeats the point, especially since I'd have to replace one of my characters.

I have a character, but I'm not sure I'm willing(like, maybe 10% chance max?)

Which one?
Faustus, but as I said, 10% chance maximum

How?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 30, 2014, 04:17:03 AM
That was the greatest cockblock of all my life.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on November 30, 2014, 04:22:38 AM
That was the greatest cockblock of all my life.

I love you too. <3
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on November 30, 2014, 04:53:46 AM
Franco, let people post when it is their turn next time. You jumped the gun.

Does not really matter for me, but just as a future note.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 30, 2014, 04:57:27 AM
Oh, you mean I posted too soon?
Sorry, I did not mean to.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 30, 2014, 04:59:55 AM
At least you didn't post too soon in the velvet room

then, people would have made sex jokes
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 30, 2014, 05:02:37 AM
Ok, it will sound really dumb, it might actually be obvious and I am the only one missing the point but... how do turns work?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on November 30, 2014, 05:07:44 AM
The order each player posted.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 30, 2014, 01:45:06 PM
franco, just apply common sense and give people time to react to your character's actions.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 30, 2014, 01:48:53 PM
Yeah, I should have waited, I'll see to it next time.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 30, 2014, 01:55:00 PM
Finally found a somewhat decent reference pic for Than'Sanel - or at least his armor/cloth - and put it in the appearance section.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 30, 2014, 10:57:12 PM
Honestly, the only way I'd bring in a male character who could dom is if they were an antagonist. I don't want to swap out any of my main characters for a guy I have no interest in outside of domming people (and only one person they can dom).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 30, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
What Antagonist?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 30, 2014, 11:10:09 PM
needles.txt incarnate, perhaps?
=P
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 30, 2014, 11:16:20 PM
What Antagonist?

Don't know. But, an antagonist gives me an extra slot, and probably fits a bit better with this concept.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on November 30, 2014, 11:54:48 PM
Posted. Haven't had time to figure out the layout of Nexus 3.0 or the general location of specific characters, though.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on December 01, 2014, 12:10:10 AM
Don't know. But, an antagonist gives me an extra slot, and probably fits a bit better with this concept.

Hey, it could be fun.

Just not NTR Fatman.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on December 01, 2014, 12:12:26 AM
Don't know. But, an antagonist gives me an extra slot, and probably fits a bit better with this concept.

Hey, it could be fun.

Just not NTR Fatman.
The worst villian of all!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 01, 2014, 12:14:30 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/Therapeman.jpg)

Keisuke Uwasaki (岩崎 圭介 Uwasaki Keisuke), is a handsome and very muscular high school teacher by day and dispenses a surreal brand of "justice" at night as the Rapeman under the business "Rapeman Services", which is co-run with his uncle, a former surgeon. The business' motto is: "Righting wrongs through penetration." Clients call on the Rapeman to handle cases such as the revenge of a jilted lover, forming parental bonds through a traumatic crisis, making disruptive co-workers more docile and other things of that nature. When engaged in his night trade, the Rapeman wears a black leather ski mask shaped like the head of a penis, but no trousers or underwear. In the middle of a rape, if the woman becomes unresponsive or expresses enjoyment, he uses special techniques such as "M69 Screwdriver" or "Infinite Loop" to apply more pain to the victim. Despite regretting some of the contracts he fulfills, he always does the job.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 01, 2014, 12:19:16 AM
He's not a hairy old fatman, I'm still not scared.
Also goddamnit, I almost choked from laughter.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 01, 2014, 12:21:15 AM
Don't know. But, an antagonist gives me an extra slot, and probably fits a bit better with this concept.

Hey, it could be fun.

Just not NTR Fatman.

It wouldn't be, although exactly what he would look like I'm not sure. I don't honestly know much of anything about the guy.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on December 01, 2014, 12:29:16 AM
It wouldn't be, although exactly what he would look like I'm not sure. I don't honestly know much of anything about the guy.

Good looking?

Big cock?

Powerful?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 01, 2014, 12:31:58 AM
why
Oh god no.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 01, 2014, 12:35:24 AM

Good looking?

Big cock?

Powerful?

It's not the size that matters, it's the way you use it!
In fact, a brute barbaric phallus cannot topple the small delicate penis of a proud man who has refined his techniques with courage and determination!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 01, 2014, 12:36:09 AM
I still keep the OVA somewhere. Censored, because he runs around in ninja gear.

Subbed by /a/.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on December 01, 2014, 12:49:11 AM
In other news unrelated to Kat having terrible taste in OVAs, anyone open to meeting or being met by Than'Sanel (I might just opt for "Than")?
Unlike last time, there isn't a map...and I'm late to the pary.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 01, 2014, 12:52:19 AM
It wouldn't be, although exactly what he would look like I'm not sure. I don't honestly know much of anything about the guy.

Good looking?

Big cock?

Powerful?

Well, the looks don't bother me, but I guess "good looking" makes sense from your side. As for "big cock", I don't know, honestly. Most likely pretty powerful, though, yes.

The initial concept I had would actually most likely go after Sakura, but that works less well now that Bdoom has his own Sakura here (since I assume Bdoom is not going to want his Sakura being raped and tortured, plus she would probably find it harder to recover from such than my Sakura would, due to not having Shirou to support her, or anyone else for that matter).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Soldat der Trauer on December 01, 2014, 01:08:01 AM
I heard Rapeman was mentioned here. :V

/scrolls above.

Oh hey! It was! Bwahahahaha.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 01, 2014, 01:09:27 AM
Wait... that thing is not an elaborate joke!?
It's actually a thing, is it?
:(
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: KAIZA on December 01, 2014, 01:12:53 AM
No.
Yeah...no. Please refrain from posting stuff like this; it's kinda insensitive to others.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 01, 2014, 01:17:04 AM
Wait... that thing is not an elaborate joke!?
It's actually a thing, is it?
:(

Yes, it is, unfortunately....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 01, 2014, 01:19:47 AM
Goddamnit.
Is this what you evil evil fatmen fap to?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on December 01, 2014, 01:26:28 AM
It wouldn't be, although exactly what he would look like I'm not sure. I don't honestly know much of anything about the guy.

Good looking?

Big cock?

Powerful?

Well, the looks don't bother me, but I guess "good looking" makes sense from your side. As for "big cock", I don't know, honestly. Most likely pretty powerful, though, yes.

The initial concept I had would actually most likely go after Sakura, but that works less well now that Bdoom has his own Sakura here (since I assume Bdoom is not going to want his Sakura being raped and tortured, plus she would probably find it harder to recover from such than my Sakura would, due to not having Shirou to support her, or anyone else for that matter).
It is my firm belief that Sakura is not into BDSM
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 01, 2014, 01:29:39 AM
>Chinese porn game forum
>Velvet room.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 01, 2014, 01:30:34 AM
It wouldn't be, although exactly what he would look like I'm not sure. I don't honestly know much of anything about the guy.

Good looking?

Big cock?

Powerful?

Well, the looks don't bother me, but I guess "good looking" makes sense from your side. As for "big cock", I don't know, honestly. Most likely pretty powerful, though, yes.

The initial concept I had would actually most likely go after Sakura, but that works less well now that Bdoom has his own Sakura here (since I assume Bdoom is not going to want his Sakura being raped and tortured, plus she would probably find it harder to recover from such than my Sakura would, due to not having Shirou to support her, or anyone else for that matter).
It is my firm belief that Sakura is not into BDSM

Erm, this is a potential antagonist I'm talking about, Sakura wouldn't have a choice in the matter....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 01, 2014, 01:31:49 AM
Then it's not BDSM, it's rape!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 01, 2014, 01:33:39 AM
Then it's not BDSM, it's rape!

Yes, which is why I said "I assume Bdoom is not going to want his Sakura being raped and tortured"....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on December 01, 2014, 01:35:02 AM
You confuse me on many levels, Mike.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 01, 2014, 01:35:35 AM
But don't you LIKE Sakura!?
Why would you want her to suffer?  D:
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 01, 2014, 01:42:55 AM
But don't you LIKE Sakura!?
Why would you want her to suffer?  D:

Because it's hot. I like hardcore BDSM stuff, and torture etc.

And, I don't want her to suffer. I just know that Sakura can probably handle it fairly well, so it's unlikely to have too much of a long-term effect. I also did say as part of the reason why I wasn't sure it would work with Bdoom's Sakura that I doubt she could recover from it anything like as well (emotionally, I mean).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 01, 2014, 01:45:49 AM
Ahem, Mike, I think I speak for all when I say no one wants to be tortured and/or raped.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on December 01, 2014, 01:48:30 AM
I will be bluntly honest, Mike: what the fuck? You despise Shinji and Zouken with all your might, but here you are saying that rape is "hot".
I just...I just...what.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 01, 2014, 01:49:25 AM
To think I get "scolded" just for quoting Wikipedia entry for lulz.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 01, 2014, 01:51:05 AM
It's ok Kat, It made me laugh.
I thought it was a Hentai Kamen-esque parody, not something legit...
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 01, 2014, 01:51:18 AM
Mike. You do realize that, the very moment that most of the chars here find out about what this guy is planning, that a fair few will be racing each other to ice this fucker? And, with the fact that we also have a fair few telepaths and others who are very good investigators, this will likely happen before you can pull this off.

Just a fair warning.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 01, 2014, 01:54:37 AM
Ahem, Mike, I think I speak for all when I say no one wants to be tortured and/or raped.

Yes, obviously. And, I'm pretty sure people don't want to get killed, either. Doesn't mean it can't happen in the RP....

I will be bluntly honest, Mike: what the fuck? You despise Shinji and Zouken with all your might, but here you are saying that rape is "hot".
I just...I just...what.

Because I would not actually rape anyone. Fantasy is not reality.

There's a fucking big difference between "has a rape fetish" and "rapes four-year-old girls with penis worms".

To think I get "scolded" just for quoting Wikipedia entry for lulz.

Because you were making a sick joke. I just happen to like particular things.

There is no point in having antagonist characters if they cannot do bad things. Yes, rape is bad, but so is murder, and so are a whole bunch of other things. If we're going to say "no rape is allowed", we should also say "absolutely no killing under any circumstances (even of NPCs)".

I would not force anyone who was not willing to RP a rape scene, because that would be unfair on them. But, if rape was in-character then it would make sense for it to happen just as much as any other IC action (although I would generally not force anything that causes someone serious RPing problems).

Mike. You do realize that, the very moment that most of the chars here find out about what this guy is planning, that a fair few will be racing each other to ice this fucker? And, with the fact that we also have a fair few telepaths and others who are very good investigators, this will likely happen before you can pull this off.

Just a fair warning.

Well, yes, obviously. The guy is an antagonist, he's not supposed to be popular. And, I doubt anyone would actually find out too quickly, any more than they instantly work out that any other antagonist is intending to commit mass murder or whatever.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on December 01, 2014, 02:06:42 AM
You do realize that Shinji and Zouken are fictional characters, right Mike? And therefore fictional rape.
I do not see the difference between what your villain is apparently wanting to do and what they did in the VN.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 01, 2014, 02:07:38 AM
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Because you were making a sick joke. I just happen to like particular things.

>Ironical memepost
> worse than torture fetishism.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 01, 2014, 02:13:19 AM
You do realize that Shinji and Zouken are fictional characters, right Mike? And therefore fictional rape.

Yes, but in-universe, their actions are real.

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I do not see the difference between what your villain is apparently wanting to do and what they did in the VN.

Nothing at all. But, I'm not claiming to like my villain. Quite the contrary, he would be a complete bastard, on the level of Zouken. But, that's kind-of the point. He's an antagonist.

I hate Shinji, but I don't hate Koto for liking or RPing Shinji, because Koto isn't actually raping anyone. Similarly, I don't hate Nasu for writing Shinji or Zouken, because they're villainous characters and are supposed to be hated, and nor do I dislike him for writing Sakura's backstory, because it's fictional.

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Because you were making a sick joke. I just happen to like particular things.

>Ironical memepost
> worse than torture fetishism.

Yes, it is, because there is fucking nothing wrong with having a particular fetish. If you have a problem with it, then that is your problem. You have no damn right to tell me what I can and cannot like.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 01, 2014, 02:45:35 AM
Problem is that you aren't straight out clarifying that you think rape is wrong and horrible despite having a fetish for it. That needs to be clear.

...Also rape is kinda sorta worse than murder. By a lot. It's kinda horrible to say otherwise.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 01, 2014, 02:47:52 AM
Problem is that you aren't straight out clarifying that you think rape is wrong and horrible despite having a fetish for it. That needs to be clear.

Yeah, sorry, that is something I should be clear about. I have a rape fetish, I do not consider actual rape to be in any way OK.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 01, 2014, 02:49:17 AM
But like, why would you want to write a character who violates a character you like!?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 01, 2014, 02:51:12 AM
I think that's part of the appeal. Somehow.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 01, 2014, 02:52:07 AM
But like, why would you want to write a character who violates a character you like!?

I already explained that.

The problem is that I like Sakura both as a character and also sexually. So, it's natural for me to push a lot of the sexual aspects onto her as well. The two are somewhat independent (if Ilya was my favourite character I would not do such stuff with her, because I don't find her attractive), and, admittedly, unfortunately somewhat contradictory.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 01, 2014, 02:56:34 AM
I'm sure I don't have a problem, unless that's the fact I needlessly argue in favor of players who can support their opinion just fine, procrasting here in result.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 01, 2014, 11:55:12 PM
Franco, can you stop posting out to turn. It was moony's turn
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 01, 2014, 11:59:33 PM
Yeah, Franco, you need to give everyone a chance to post. You can't just reply to everything immediately.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 02, 2014, 12:04:34 AM
It's already chaotic enough.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 02, 2014, 12:39:29 AM
Damn, sorry for that (again).
I assumed Moon quite literally left the area, thus didn't concieve that he could still be spying or lurking.
I should have taken into account he could still observe, thus react.
Damn, I keep messing it up, but I swear I'll get the hang of it.
I just have to be more careful next time.
Again, sorry for that >_<
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Mooncake on December 02, 2014, 12:53:39 AM
Franco, can you stop posting out to turn. It was moony's turn

You can skip Ezra, it's fine.


he's used to it
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on December 02, 2014, 01:04:37 AM
Sarse x Ann OTP. :3c
I was considering having Than'Sanel meet up with them, but with how intent Ann is on romancing Sarse, I wouldn't want to start the RP interactions by being a third wheel or cockblocking. =P
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 02, 2014, 01:06:30 AM
Franco, can you stop posting out to turn. It was moony's turn

You can skip Ezra, it's fine.


he's used to it

Nononoo, post post, It was my fault, It was.
Sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 02, 2014, 01:10:39 AM
In roughly half a day my character is free if Kaze does not post, by the way.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on December 02, 2014, 01:12:01 AM
Sarse x Ann OTP. :3c
I was considering having Than'Sanel meet up with them, but with how intent Ann is on romancing Sarse, I wouldn't want to start the RP interactions by being a third wheel or cockblocking. =P

He'll probably have a good opening after their adventure at the clothing store. Ann can't spend all her time teasing Sarse after all. Just most of it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 02, 2014, 01:17:55 AM
Anyway, if Kaze does not post and Saito is available I'll have her interact with Puck. I hope he runs him annoying enough.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on December 02, 2014, 01:30:39 AM
He'll probably have a good opening after their adventure at the clothing store.
Sounds good to me as long as it's alright with you and YOLF!
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Ann can't spend all her time teasing Sarse after all. Just most of it.
Heh.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Mooncake on December 02, 2014, 01:48:26 AM
Nononoo, post post, It was my fault, It was.
Sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry.

No no, I'm serious, it's fine. He wouldn't be doing anything other than crouching behind the wall, anyways :P
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 02, 2014, 01:53:05 AM
Puck has been submitted.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on December 02, 2014, 02:01:06 AM
Sounds good to me as long as it's alright with you and YOLF!

That's alright by me. The SoL shenanigans sadly cannot go on forever.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 02, 2014, 02:15:16 AM
Nononoo, post post, It was my fault, It was.
Sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry.

No no, I'm serious, it's fine. He wouldn't be doing anything other than crouching behind the wall, anyways :P

D'aaaw, thank you, you're so sweet.
Glad you're not taking it badly.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 02, 2014, 11:43:04 AM
48 hours roughly elapsed so I won't wait with Mordred any longer.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on December 03, 2014, 01:03:01 AM
Ann wears the pants in her relationship with Sarse.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on December 03, 2014, 01:18:10 AM
He's a few billion years too young for her to consider him an equal.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on December 03, 2014, 01:22:43 AM
He's a few billion years too young for her to consider him an equal.
He'd better start liking being stepped on, then. =P
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on December 03, 2014, 01:24:28 AM
I'm sure he'll manage after he gathers the few scraps of pride he has left.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 03, 2014, 01:28:09 AM
So ya, Franco you might want to let other people reply to the whole flesh golem thing before posting again.

Just as a warning so ya don't jump the gun and people miss their chance to react.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 03, 2014, 02:36:34 AM
Thanks for your advice and concern.
Your consideration is appreciated, thank you for it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 03, 2014, 03:32:11 AM
Moon Moon, want us to skip you again?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 03, 2014, 03:51:49 AM
It's not fair, all of you are ganging up on me like a bunch of rapists ;_;
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 03, 2014, 03:55:26 AM
Mike has complained the same during the Hospital Clusterfuck, and I say to you as I said to him.

That's just how the cards fall.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on December 03, 2014, 04:00:48 AM
It's not fair, all of you are ganging up on me like a bunch of rapists ;_;
This is a very lewd RP so I'd be careful with your word choices.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 03, 2014, 05:25:44 AM
... Franco, did moony give you the ok?

Cause you jumped the gun. Again.

Also, you do know that flesh golems have superhuman constitution right (its on Grenth sheet)? As in, it can take just around, probably a little less, then herk levels of damage.

Use that to think about your post for a second, and how easy it was to destroy. If you are going to do something like that, confirm it with the person first. Especially since Grenth is right there so I can manipulate the minion.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 03, 2014, 09:26:53 AM
FINALLY FIRST IC POST WITH TOM IS DONE THANK GOD HOLY CRAP IS THIS THING TOO LONG.

Please, for the love of freaking god, if there is anything wrong, please let me know. This thing was too damn long and there's probably a crap ton of shit I messed up on that I missed, so please point stuff out to me.

Also, people with characters just wandering around aimlessly with nothing to do now have something to do if they so wish, which I'm just going to briefly touch on here in case they understandably didn't want to read my Big Ass Post of Death. Big ass company needs someone to blow up a lab for them, and they're payin' good cash! So yeah, if you want your character to be part of the team infiltrating the lab, just let me know.

Said first IC post from me can die in a fire btw. God damn was that thing a pain to write.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on December 03, 2014, 12:03:22 PM
That was neat. I liked it.

And despite the sympathy Tom evokes, the ambiguity of whether he really felt bad at all for killing Johnson was stark indeed. Actually a very good example of manipulative sympathy for the rest of the characters involved, and even partially out of character because you never do tell us what Tom felt about it or if he did it on impulse or not. Regardless of how much he manipulated the reaction to his own purposes.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 03, 2014, 12:27:47 PM
... Franco, did moony give you the ok?

Cause you jumped the gun. Again.

Also, you do know that flesh golems have superhuman constitution right (its on Grenth sheet)? As in, it can take just around, probably a little less, then herk levels of damage.

Use that to think about your post for a second, and how easy it was to destroy. If you are going to do something like that, confirm it with the person first. Especially since Grenth is right there so I can manipulate the minion.

Damn, I messed up again.
And this time I tried to not jump the gun, but like, both you and puck had responded, so I tought it would be k... :/

Well, I deleted it, so like, that post never happened, so you can do your thing Moony.
Jeeeez tho, It's like the more I try to not make this mistake the more I do it  D:

That, and I should have taken a look at the golem's stats, you're right.

Also Knick, if you don't mind, it would be easier if I had ya on Skype, just so this insecure little fellow who tends to not think much about what he's doing can have some confirmation, it's easier to ask questions directly like that.

And btw, nice one Alice ^_^
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on December 03, 2014, 12:54:49 PM
All that effort. gj Alice.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Mooncake on December 03, 2014, 01:18:50 PM
Moon Moon, want us to skip you again?

I'm gonna edit it into my Vlad post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 03, 2014, 02:39:23 PM
Again, sorry for that Moon >_<
I honestly forgot you (again), but I'll get the hang of it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on December 03, 2014, 03:22:06 PM
Sorry Nachos, no time to work out Aki's introductory post tonight. If I'm lucky I'll be able to do it in the morning but no guarantees.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 03, 2014, 09:31:07 PM
Yay, thank you! :D It's good to know I did okay despite my kneejerk impulse to think otherwise.

And while I left it ambiguous on purpose, it was mostly manipulative sympathy. This incarnation of Tom be a cynical asshole. Basically, if he hadn't instinctively reached out to Carol to be his right hand woman, he'd probably be on a one way track to full antagonist town right now. If something happens to her, he'll basically go into "fuck humanity" mode faster than you can say, "oh fuck."

Basically he and Forest go well together in the Velvet Room because they're both darker versions of themselves.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 03, 2014, 09:33:58 PM
Yay, thank you! :D It's good to know I did okay despite my kneejerk impulse to think otherwise.

And while I left it ambiguous on purpose, it was mostly manipulative sympathy. This incarnation of Tom be a cynical asshole. Basically, if he hadn't instinctively reached out to Carol to be his right hand woman, he'd probably be on a one way track to full antagonist town right now. If something happens to her, he'll basically go into "fuck humanity" mode faster than you can say, "oh fuck."

This, of course, ensures us that she's either going to die or something horrible will happen to her.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 03, 2014, 09:39:15 PM
I'm actually hoping not. :< But if she does die, the Nexus be in some serious shit (basically having to be a CEO isn't doing Tom any favors in terms of his views towards humanity).

Also, edited part of my post in the Velvet Room. I meant "violence," not "virus."  :laugh: My brain must have shorted for a moment there. So not much to change except a few words from the post you quoted, Puck, nothing to worry about there.

Also, yes, I'm sure Tom and Time are going to be great friends. :V

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 03, 2014, 11:21:45 PM
Srs question, do you think I've made Costin too edgy?

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 03, 2014, 11:40:23 PM
I'm actually hoping not. :< But if she does die, the Nexus be in some serious shit (basically having to be a CEO isn't doing Tom any favors in terms of his views towards humanity).

Also, edited part of my post in the Velvet Room. I meant "violence," not "virus."  :laugh: My brain must have shorted for a moment there. So not much to change except a few words from the post you quoted, Puck, nothing to worry about there.

Also, yes, I'm sure Tom and Time are going to be great friends. :V

They're going to spit roast Forest, aren't they...

Just as Elf suggested earlier...
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 03, 2014, 11:59:24 PM
@Panda: (I was being sarcastic. :P)

@Franco: Maaybe just a bit.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 04, 2014, 12:01:44 AM
It's ok, I doubt he will live to see another day (I'm already getting tired myself of the edge, but I do think it's a bit too late to make him have a heel faced turn, so like, maaaaybe I can make another less edgy char and make him kill Costin off?).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on December 04, 2014, 12:06:44 AM
You can always let someone else kill him off as well. There are many options for death.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 04, 2014, 12:09:25 AM
Yes, but the least I have to work with him, the better.
My initial idea with him was a simple reckless fight happy vampire, but working along on my sheet, it degenerated over time into an edgefest hell.
I mean,  got nothing against edge, but I do think I went a bit overboard.
I've basically become zouken.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on December 04, 2014, 12:10:35 AM
Him kicking the bucket against the flesh golem or Ezra stabbing him with the Lance could also work quickly. (I'm pretty sure Moony was planning on have Ezra stab things too)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 04, 2014, 12:15:53 AM
It's ok, I doubt he will live to see another day (I'm already getting tired myself of the edge, but I do think it's a bit too late to make him have a heel faced turn, so like, maaaaybe I can make another less edgy char and make him kill Costin off?).

Have Henderson accidentally run him over while heading to the nearest 7-11 (As directed by Donkey near the beginning of the RP)?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 04, 2014, 12:16:20 AM
Yes!
But you gotta do it repeatedly in order for him to stay dead.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 04, 2014, 12:21:24 AM
Yes!
But you gotta do it repeatedly in order for him to stay dead.

I think I have just the trick... Cackles evilly.

Quick check, they're fighting in a park, right?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 04, 2014, 12:26:10 AM
I approve.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 04, 2014, 12:29:49 AM
I approve.

They're fighting in a park, right?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 04, 2014, 12:33:01 AM
No, it was a random alleyway I do think.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 04, 2014, 12:35:48 AM
No, it was a random alleyway I do think.

You just made my job so much easier.

Wait, how did Grenth summon a Flesh Golem in an alleyway?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 04, 2014, 12:37:00 AM
Pile of definitely not conveniently placed corpses of EDGE.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Mooncake on December 04, 2014, 12:37:38 AM
Him kicking the bucket against the flesh golem or Ezra stabbing him with the Lance could also work quickly. (I'm pretty sure Moony was planning on have Ezra stab things too)

i want to be useful boss

(But yeah, if you want him to go out in a fight I'd be up for it)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 04, 2014, 12:38:37 AM
Pile of definitely not conveniently placed corpses of EDGE.

It's purging time.

Moony, you might want to take Ezra and GTFO. Collateral damage will be a bitch.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 04, 2014, 12:40:09 AM
Why not both?
As he rises from the car crash, all tattered and beat up, you can have Erza stab him from behind or something.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 04, 2014, 12:42:04 AM
Why not both?
As he rises from the car crash, all tattered and beat up, you can have Erza stab him from behind or something.

You see, here's where you're making the mistake.

You're assuming it's a car.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 04, 2014, 12:43:18 AM
Jet plane?
Or maybe a tank!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 04, 2014, 12:46:48 AM
Jet plane?
Or maybe a tank!

Oh come on, nothing that ridiculous.

Apologies, but this might take a while. What I'm planning may accidentally destroy the Flesh Golem too, or at least severely damage it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Mooncake on December 04, 2014, 02:10:54 AM
Jet plane?
Or maybe a tank!

Oh come on, nothing that ridiculous.

Apologies, but this might take a while. What I'm planning may accidentally destroy the Flesh Golem too, or at least severely damage it.

Way ahead of you.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 04, 2014, 02:20:44 AM
Just make it as gloriously cheesy over the top death as your heart desires, it's all I ask for.

RIP in peace Costin, he who lived for the edge, and died for the edge.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 04, 2014, 02:25:34 AM
I'll create a graveyard thread when he croaks (note that I'll be keeping the graveyard thread and the rejected character thread when it pops up separate from each other).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on December 04, 2014, 02:27:21 AM
Can we put satoshi as an honorary rejected character?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 04, 2014, 02:32:42 AM
No.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 04, 2014, 02:49:40 AM
Just make it as gloriously cheesy over the top death as your heart desires, it's all I ask for.

RIP in peace Costin, he who lived for the edge, and died for the edge.

Thy will be done, Atoner, thy will be done.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 04, 2014, 04:07:43 AM
You do know that Grenth can literally just wreck anyone in the ally, in like a second if he actually cares enough.

You don't need to bring in Henderson when Grenth is literally just going to do something horrifying. In fact it kinda annoys me that you left me out of this completely.

Oh well, he will just take his soul, deform it, and twist it to his purposes. After be deals with the people that prevented him from appointing judgment on the beast before him.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 04, 2014, 04:11:33 AM
I have no objection, him getting run over by whatever henderson is driving sounded cool and funny, but you can do as you wish to him.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 04, 2014, 05:27:16 AM
Knick. I'm gonna be perfectly frank with you here.

You're taking Henderson way too seriously. Hell, the only reason I'm scoring this kill is because Franco wanted the Edge Lord dead, Henderson was already going to be looking for a 7-11 (Blame Donkey for that one) and sheer coincidence overall. And that's how Henderson rolls, a hurricane of coincidence and not giving a fuck.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 04, 2014, 06:35:46 AM
And I am going to be frank with you.

You did it again, determining the outcome before people can respond. I was fine with the car thing with Mordred and didn't do the in character (as in the first thing he could, I had to reason out why he wouldn't do that in character and was able to come up with a reason.) thing of Hamara immediately shooting it to hell, cause Kat wanted a way to get out to the situation that wasn't the one ability that wouldn't have apparently negative consequences.

So I was a nice guy, also it was a funny situation so I put a bit of leeway in there cause I could find a reason for Hamara to NOT shoot it up and just try and kill both them.

The truck itself is something that Grenth could, and is currently able to stop, if not fully at least to a noticeable extent. Example of how you should do it is like what moony did, he threw the spear at the golem rather then just blowing it up himself. During the Lucas, Crest, Arisen fight, we never assumed the attack hit, we let the other person determine the effect. I mean we can call out bullshit if completely implausible, which I would say you should do, but we never assumed something was going to work out the way we thought it might.

Doing that kind of thing gives me a chance to respond, because I know what my character would do. If Grenth had a reason to he could probably stop the spear Ezra threw, but he won't cause he doesn't care. It not shooting at him, instead it is launched at an expendable minion.

A truck speeding at them on the other hand, ya, he gonna do something to top that. Not only is it obvious but it would definitely be dangerous to him. 

And as for taking Henderson too seriously? No, I am taking how you are acting with him as I should. You don't act out situations predetermined what the results will be. You set it up, and see how people react to it. 

You don't chose how it will play out, just as you wouldn't in any other situation, you can try your hardest to set it up, make its chance of succeeding as good as you can, but there are things you can't control.

And that is what annoys me about how you are playing Henderson. Henderson is fine, cause chaos as much as you want, do crazy shit as much as you want.

Just don't assume it will work out the way you set it up when doing something to other players, let people react. 

And as for this case? The truck will definitely explode, but not have as massive effect

And god that was a rant. But I feel like it needed to be said.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 04, 2014, 07:42:38 AM
Doesn't need to have a massive effect on Grenth and Ezra. Just aiming for Costin. The flare was to give them time to GTFO just as much as it was to blind Costin.

However, I see your point and accept it.

Still gonna keep doing crazy shit, though.

And, in all fairness, with the Hamara thing, I thought they were in an alleyway for some reason, and that Mordred had just leaped out of it, in which case Hamara wouldn't have seen the car except for that split second when Henderson passed directly in front of the alley. My bad on that one.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 04, 2014, 02:45:17 PM
It doesn't matter who it affects or whatever, you simply can't assume other character's actions. You have to wait for them to make a reply.

Note, however, that that does not apply to minions or familiars. Those you can kill or affect without your opponent posting a response.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 04, 2014, 02:52:50 PM
It doesn't matter who it affects or whatever, you simply can't assume other character's actions. You have to wait for them to make a reply.

Post fixed. Shortened to ending when Henderson gets the truck moving, because I would think it would be fair to assume that no one is going to react until he actually gets going.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 04, 2014, 05:37:42 PM
Hey elf, you going to post Saber and Forests reaction to mia taking the phone? Or should I just post Mia.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 04, 2014, 09:37:00 PM
I'm posting Mordred at latest before going to bed. It's going to be longer than standard, so I'm preparing myself mentally.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 05, 2014, 06:46:03 AM
I'm confused again. Who's turn is it between Ezras, Time, Costei, Henderson, and Grenth?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 05, 2014, 11:16:22 AM
Briarwolves retreated. For now. Time to pick Goblin Fruits and leave the place before they come in larger numbers.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 05, 2014, 03:34:49 PM
I'm confused again. Who's turn is it between Ezras, Time, Costei, Henderson, and Grenth?
Edgelord McEdge II I think
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on December 06, 2014, 02:54:20 AM
Since it may be relevant for Rebecca, Aki's thoughts are only curiosity about her appearance and the Nexus itself.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 07, 2014, 09:17:29 PM
Because your not posting Franco we are moving on without your. Grenth sealed off the two sides of the alleyway, all that needs to happen is the explosion.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 07, 2014, 09:51:39 PM
Oh shit, I forgot.
Well, its ok I guess.
Wait, do I still have time to give him any last words or something?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 07, 2014, 10:30:01 PM
Oh shit, I forgot.
Well, its ok I guess.
Wait, do I still have time to give him any last words or something?

Yeah, you've got time for last words. I think.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on December 07, 2014, 11:02:31 PM
Sarse and Ann OTP so lewd. :V
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 08, 2014, 04:30:13 PM
Shit, forgot it is magos' turn to post. My bad

Edit: Deleted the post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 08, 2014, 08:58:10 PM
I'm rooting for Rider to escape those spears with near-Legendary Agility (A rank)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 09, 2014, 01:34:14 AM
In response to that most recent Rin post in IC, just assume Rin is following Saber. I'll respond with whatever I need to respond with once they're inside the building, unless something interrupts them on the way inside.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 09, 2014, 06:36:37 PM
At this point, I'm a little confused about how Adjutor would react to Hamara.

As mentioned earlier, he's got Xarrest, the Darkling, in there with him, but Xarrest's soul is still fundamentally separate from his own. As it stands, it looks like we'd have the situation where Adjutor recognizes Hamara but Xarrest doesn't.

The reason for this being that Adjutor, modifications to allow the ability to use magic aside, is still fundamentally and Conceptually Human, while Xarrest leans more towards being humanoid, having no real differences from a human aside from being from a different plane of existence. In addition, I'm pretty sure I haven't said in the sheet that they were fused, merely that both of them exist in the same body. They're still fundamentally separated from each other, otherwise we'd have some creepy hivemind shit going on instead of the banter between the two.

Something else to consider. While Adjutor is the one driving the body, there is no presence from Xarrest aside from his soul being there. To clarify, it's like it's just Adjutor, only with Xarrest's soul sealed in him, without any actual presence in the body or any effect to his fundamental humanity.

I would apologize for not explicitly mentioning that last part in the sheet, but as this thread is kind of like an errata...meh.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 09, 2014, 07:36:53 PM
I cannot talk about it now. When I am on later I will male it clear to you.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 10, 2014, 06:51:23 AM
OK, since I assume this is going to get brought up to Elf or Names when I'm in bed and they're going to get a horribly one-sided version, I have a few things to say.

Firstly, in terms of Rider's use of Pegasus, we have no idea how much prana it costs just to summon it (without using Bellerophon). You guys are assuming loads, I believe it's relatively little. There is no evidence either way so, as the person RPing her, it should be my call. Secondly, even if it does cost a lot of prana, she is currently contracted to Sakura, who has an extremely large supply of it. Further, there is no restriction on how quickly a master can transfer prana to a servant. We know this because Saber Alter is able to spam Excalibur at will. Dark Sakura has an infinite supply of prana, but her circuits are the same as normal Sakura's. So, if a servant contracted to Dark Sakura is not limited by prana transfer rate, nor should one contracted to normal Sakura be. Rider should therefore be able to pretty much summon Pegasus as often as she wants as long as Sakura is her master (as long as it doesn't get absolutely ridiculous), without any noticeable effect. And, if there was any effect, it would be noticeable in Sakura as well, because Rider drains prana from her.

Secondly, the smoke stuff, although it's now kind-of irrelevant, I guess. I think the layout of the characters was such that Rider would have been obscured by the smoke from the start, and I wrote my post on that basis. The only reason I didn't change my post and accepted the idea that she was not obscured was because I didn't want to cause a hold-up in the RP, and because Knick tricked me into thinking nothing bad would happen as a result. In the future, if any such dispute comes up, I will just delete the post and wait for Elf's opinion, because I clearly cannot trust Knick to be honest and open about such things.

Thirdly, the hole in Pegasus' wing. Again, we have no idea how that works, even up to the point that unsummoning and re-summoning it could potentially fix it (although I don't personally think so). However, given that Pegasus is a phantasmal beast, and one that Rider can summon, I suspect it should heal relatively fast. I'll accept Pegasus being unable to fly for a small length of time, but not anything more than a day at absolute most, and if someone tries to use that as an excuse for me not to be able to use Pegasus in a future battle, I will not be impressed, not least because the way the wing got damaged was bullshit in the first place (a lucky blind shot that just happened to hit it because Knick can't tolerate the idea of me actually being able to get away in a non-Knick-approved manner, based on a totally false interpretation of the way my post should have panned out which only stayed in place because Knick tricked me into thinking it wouldn't cause any problems if I didn't bother to argue it).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 10, 2014, 05:59:54 PM
In the future, if any such dispute comes up, I will just delete the post and wait for Elf's opinion, because I clearly cannot trust Knick to be honest and open about such things.

All I said was this, "Hamara will not hit Characters". There was only one other thing thing there because you summoned pegi. Its not hard to anticipate it.

 This is us having to tell you ways to get away, and if we don't tell you everything (which is the exact opposite of why an antagonist is hidden) we are lairs, because you can't figure them out yourself (or you don't want to). Hell it was actually resolved, we already agreed to just let it die because Rider can't get hit by normal attacks., If you needed to talk with anyone about it, to try and get a more bizarre/interesting resolution, talk with Bdoom, he has Faust there. Faust can fucking help you. You could have come up with someone with Bdoom, but you didn't, you just bitched about it.

You can trust me to not be a dick and not try make a killing blow happen or permanently fuck up a character, its part of the rules. Like fuck, with Crest I would most likely not do what Crest was trying to do to Lucas to do to most people, because fuck that's mean and would permanently fuck up someone for most people. But everything else? That's fair game, because that makes good conflicts, that makes good situations to react to.

Right now Hamara is definitely putting Rider out of her element, someone who is capable of wounding her pegi to much with such a simple attack? That's probably not something she has ever seen or had to deal with. What that does is give you something to work with that's different and weird.

If you don't want to trust me fine. I just won't tell you in the future what I plan to do, I will never tell anyone what exactly I plan to do, that's part of being a good antagonist. I was being really nice in giving you so many hints, like a ridiculous amount of hints.

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a lucky blind shot that just happened to hit it because Knick can't tolerate the idea of me actually being able to get away in a non-Knick-approved manner

Mike, I honestly don't care. I am trying to be a good antagonist with Hamara, trying cause problems for people. That is what a good Antagonist does.

IF you can come up with a way to get away I have not come up with? Try to do it, I would love to see it. It is like the Crest, Arisen and Lucas fight. I always try to predict how the fight will got for post purposes, but every time Moony posted it was something I did not anticipate.

Its great. I love seeing people come up with cool things. I love trying to deal with the cool things. Its part of what makes an RP fun.

Like, Faust could have done something like create a Giant magical barrier of some kind to give them some cover as they got on the horse (don't know if he can do this), that might have upped your chances tremendously. Or constantly attack with magical fire, it would not hurt Hamara but it would obstruct his vision.

But that's not what happened.

What I gave you, is a 100% infallible way for this to be resolved from the point of view of someone playing Hamara. Everything else is not. Because Hamara is doing things, and Hamara can react to things. There is no way of you knowing the issue will be resolved because your not playing Hamara. Hell, I don't know all the ways it can be resolved. Because other characters can do things I did not think of. Like the Faust points I put up above.

The Pegasus thing happened because summoning it is not instant and I promised to not hit characters. There was literally nothing else I could hit. Hamara is not stupid, it is most likely moved back to the people she was with before for some reason due to the angle of her movement before he lost sight of her. So Hamara took at lucky shot in hopes of hitting her.

I could have had him shoot a blanket of shots filling the entire area with them, something he is capable of, but I didn't, because I was trying to be fair while trying to also make people adapt to Hamara's presence. Not fuck them over.

Thats that mantra I play Hamara with. Make people's lives harder, but don't fuck them over.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 10, 2014, 06:43:14 PM
In the future, if any such dispute comes up, I will just delete the post and wait for Elf's opinion, because I clearly cannot trust Knick to be honest and open about such things.

All I said was this, "Hamara will not hit Characters". There was only one other thing thing there because you summoned pegi. Its not hard to anticipate it.

Sure, but the way we talked about it made it seem like you were not going to cause me any problems. Otherwise, I would have gone back and changed my actions to take into account the fact that a) Pegasus summoning wasn't instant (which I had previously assumed it was) and b) you insisted that the cloud did not hide Rider initially when I had acted on the assumption that it would. Those are both things that Rider would ICly have known and, thus, things it would have been reasonable for me to take into account, but I didn't do so because it was easier for everyone concerned and you made it sound like it would not matter.

You acted as if you were going to let Rider fly away on Pegasus. You intentionally mislead me into believing that so I would not take back the post. That is why I am annoyed.

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This is us having to tell you ways to get away, and if we don't tell you everything (which is the exact opposite of why an antagonist is hidden), because you can't figure them out yourself (or you don't want to).

It's not a matter of what I can and cannot figure out. Even if I can work it out from your posts before this conflict, Rider can't. Using OOC information to work out things that Rider cannot ICly know is metagaming.

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Hell it was actually resolved, we already agreed to just let it die because Rider can't get hit by normal attacks.

What?

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If you needed to talk with anyone about it, to try and get a more bizarre/interesting resolution, talk with Bdoom, he has Faust there. Faust can fucking help you. You could have come up with someone with Bdoom, but you didn't, you just bitched about it.

Bdoom had already posted by the time you made the attack, and none of us had any knowledge of what you intended to do. Nor, for that matter, did you give either me or Bdoom the opportunity to react to your attack on Pegasus (which is something you are technically allowed to do, yes, because Pegasus is not Rider, but nevertheless you cannot complain about us not reacting to something you never let us react to). If you'd said "a light beam was fired at Pegasus' wing", then you'd have a valid point about me not trying to resolve it. However, you already stated it had hit and burned a hole. There's no reaction Faust or anyone else can make to change that, unless they know time travel (well, possibly Faust can heal it, I don't know, that would be up to Bdoom).

So, no, we could not come up with a more interesting resolution because you never gave us the opportunity to do so. We never got to react to seeing the shots come towards Rider or anything like that, you just said "Pegasus got hit". I don't see what the hell me or Bdoom were meant to do about that.

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You can trust me to not be a dick and not try make a killing blow happen or permanently fuck up a character, its part of the rules. Like fuck, with Crest I would most likely not do what Crest was trying to do to Lucas to do to most people, because fuck that's mean and would permanently fuck up someone for most people. But everything else? That's fair game, because that makes good conflicts, that makes good situations to react to.

That's not a matter of "trusting" you, though. You don't have a choice in the matter, so I don't have to trust you in any way for that.

As for everything else, yes, you are right that you can act in ways that cause me problems. I don't mind that. What I do mind is you OOCly misleading me into not doing things that would ICly have made sense but would have caused everyone inconvenience. I was going to take back my post due to inaccurate OOC assumptions (i.e., mistakes I made that Rider would not have made), but I chose not to because it was easier for everyone involved and you made it sound like not doing so would not cause a problem.

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Right now Hamara is definitely putting Rider out of her element, someone who is capable of wounding her pegi to much with such a simple attack? That's probably not something she has ever seen or had to deal with. What that does is give you something to work with that's different and weird.

Well, sure, I won't deny that. I just dislike the way you handled it, because you tricked me OOCly into believing I shouldn't bother to correct my IC actions to take account of disagreements, or take those disagreements to the GMs to adjudicate.

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If you don't want to trust me fine. I just won't tell you in the future what I plan to do, I will never tell anyone what exactly I plan to do, that's part of being a good antagonist. I was being really nice in giving you so many hints, like a ridiculous amount of hints.

The issue is the way that you made it sound like I didn't need to change the post to take into account the disagreement over the cloud or my mistake about Pegasus' summoning, or bother asking the GMs to rule on the cloud's nature, because it didn't actually matter. When, in fact, it did matter.

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Mike, I honestly don't care. I am trying to be a good antagonist with Hamara, trying cause problems for people. That is what a good Antagonist does.

Yeah, sure, that is fair enough. The problem is that Rider likely can't fight Hamara, because he's just too compatible for her. And, burning a hole in Pegasus' wing doesn't really make things more interesting, it just makes them more annoying. Especially since it would not have happened if you hadn't intentionally mislead me OOCly.

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IF you can come up with a way to get away I have not come up with? Try to do it, I would love to see it. It is like the Crest, Arisen and Lucas fight. I always try to predict how the fight will got for post purposes, but every time Moony posted it was something I did not anticipate.

Sure, but summoning Pegasus is not something Hamara could have expected. And, based on what I knew, it was a logical approach. You just disagreed with my interpretation of the situation and used your interpretation to act, when Rider's actions would have been different if I'd known that. I only accepted that because you made it sound like there was no reason for me to argue.

Further, your shot was meta-gaming. There is no IC reason why it would have hit Pegasus's wing. You never aimed for it. The only reason it did so is because you OOCly wanted Rider not to be able to fly away.

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Its great. I love seeing people come up with cool things. I love trying to deal with the cool things. Its part of what makes an RP fun.

Sure, agreed. But, hostilities should be limited to IC. OOCly you should be honest with people. If you want to hide something from them, fine, but you shouldn't be intentionally misleading them, aside perhaps from pointing out things that would appear to be the case from an IC perspective but are actually false (i.e. "Rider would see it like this").

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Like, Faust could have done something like create a Giant magical barrier of some kind to give them some cover as they got on the horse (don't know if he can do this), that might have upped your chances tremendously. Or constantly attack with magical fire, it would not hurt Hamara but it would obstruct his vision.

But that's not what happened.

Sure, but why the fucking hell would he have? There was nothing in my post that would give Bdoom any indication that there was any danger there, and the stuff you said in the CE chat made it seem like there was no danger either, so he just made a simple, quick post. If you'd not been intentionally misleading, then we may well have thought harder about it, but you told us you were not going to do anything so we didn't bother to waste time trying to think up solutions to a problem we thought you had claimed would not occur.

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What I gave you, is a 100% infallible way for this to be resolved from the point of view of someone playing Hamara. Everything else is not. Because Hamara is doing things, and Hamara can react to things. There is no way of you knowing the issue will be resolved because your not playing Hamara. Hell, I don't know all the ways it can be resolved.

Sure, but you didn't give us the chance to react to Hamara's actions, and you also made assumptions about how my character's actions would work that differed from my own assumptions. In that case, the usual approach is to either fix the post or ask the GMs for clarification, but I chose not to do that for reasons of expediency, based on the fact that you said it would not matter. If I had known you were going to shoot Pegasus, I would have argued my case more vigorously and would almost certainly have gone back and undone the post if it was assumed that the cloud had not covered Rider from the beginning.

Rider is not stupid, she would know that he could see where she was going and take a decent shot at her, and that she could not avoid said shots when summoning. Not to mention that said shots could easily have hit Sakura. There's no way Rider would have done that if I'd known the smoke was not obscuring her from the beginning, it's just too risky. The only reason she did so is because she knew the smoke would mean he could not tell that she had moved, and thus would continue to aim at the same place. And, if she had done it, she'd have done it in a way that made it impossible to tell where she was heading.

I was intending to retcon that and change my action (most likely to something like what you're suggesting now), but your statements convinced me that I had no need to do so. It turns out that you were, in fact, completely misleading me. Hence why I am so annoyed about it, and not willing to allow myself to be seriously inconvenienced by it. Because I allowed that post to stand solely because I didn't want to slow everyone down, and I dislike being punished for trying to actually help people out.

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Because other characters can do things I did not think of. Like the Faust points I put up above.

The problem is that you didn't give Faust a chance to do stuff like that. You shot at Pegasus and hit in the same post. No-one has the chance to react to that. And, you intentionally misled us in the OOC chat so we wouldn't put any effort into actually trying to make sure nothing went wrong.

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The Pegasus thing happened because summoning it is not instant and I promised to not hit characters. There was literally nothing else I could hit. Hamara is not stupid, it is most likely moved back to the people she was with before for some reason due to the angle of her movement before he lost sight of her. So Hamara took at lucky shot in hopes of hitting her.

You didn't have to hit anything.

And, you shouldn't have even seen where she was moving, the cloud should have been in the way. I never disputed that point only because I didn't think it mattered, because you intentionally mislead me as to your intentions.

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I could have had him shoot a blanket of shots filling the entire area with them, something he is capable of, but I didn't, because I was trying to be fair while trying to also make people adapt to Hamara's presence. Not fuck them over.

Thats that mantra I play Hamara with. Make people's lives harder, but don't fuck them over.

Look, my problem here is not with your IC actions, but rather with your OOC ones. You mislead me into not bothering to fix IC mistakes or bring IC arguments to the GMs for the sake of expediency. If someone points out a flaw in your post, then you generally take that post back and start again. I chose not to do so because it would have held the RP up and you made it sound like it did not matter.

It is fine for you to ICly act in that manner, but you should not be intentionally misleading us OOCly. If you do not want to tell us things, then say you won't tell us. Don't make comments that are false or intended to be misleading, especially when they're being made for the purpose of preventing me from performing actions that make logical sense ICly.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 10, 2014, 07:11:18 PM
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The problem is that you didn't give Faust a chance to do stuff like that. You shot at Pegasus and hit in the same post. No-one has the chance to react to that. And, you intentionally misled us in the OOC chat so we wouldn't put any effort into actually trying to make sure nothing went wrong.

Never said that Pegi could not be hit. Said characters could not be, there was no mislead int.

I said the post was fine and I guess you can read some of what I said as it would not hurt your chance of escape, not what I said but I can understand if you interpret it that way. That is actually true because an airborne target would cause Hamara to do something different. Something that an Airborne target would find near impossible to avoid. If anything, preventing that option actually made escape with harm more likely.

Also the cloud of smoke blocks vision both ways. Not like Faust, with his lower stats then Rider would be able to react to a completely unseen attack shooting at the speed of sniper fire. Hell, even Rider would probably be unable to do that. Fuck, Cu would not be able to even with protction from arrows because he cannot see the shots origin.

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It is fine for you to ICly act in that manner, but you should not be intentionally misleading us OOCly. If you do not want to tell us things, then say you won't tell us. Don't make comments that are false or intended to be misleading, especially when they're being made for the purpose of preventing me from performing actions that make logical sense ICly.

Never intentionally misled anyone. I tell you things, not everything because that is boring, but I tell you what I deem is necessary.

Its not my fault if you act on it. Its not my fault you need to use OOG knowledge to make IG decisions, definition of metagaming by the way.

In fact, I am near 100% sure that Rider not attack Hamara is only because I have said Rider is the worse possible person to fight him. Because she had no such qualms about fighting the completely unknown Faust when Sakura is in any dnager. And Rider is definitely feeling from the situation the Sakura is in danger. You made it clear in your posts.

Just roll with the punches and move on. Its part of RPing.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 10, 2014, 07:41:21 PM
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The problem is that you didn't give Faust a chance to do stuff like that. You shot at Pegasus and hit in the same post. No-one has the chance to react to that. And, you intentionally misled us in the OOC chat so we wouldn't put any effort into actually trying to make sure nothing went wrong.

Never said that Pegi could not be hit. Said characters could not be, there was no mislead int.

No, I agree you never said that, but it certainly came across as an implication.

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I said the post was fine

It wasn't fine, though. It was based on several misunderstandings.

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I guess you can read some of what I said as it would not hurt your chance of escape, not what I said but I can understand if you interpret it that way. That is actually true because an airborne target would cause Hamara to do something different. Something that an Airborne target would find near impossible to avoid. If anything, preventing that option actually made escape with harm more likely.

I see....

I guess I should have expected that, really. Although, honestly, I'm expecting you to pull some other ridiculous thing out when Rider tries to run anyway. I just can't really do anything about it, because even if OOCly knew what it was, Rider has no IC reason to, and no other options available to her.

But, regardless, even if that is true, you did still mislead me as to your intentions, and the result was me not changing things I otherwise would have changed.

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Also the cloud of smoke blocks vision both ways. Not like Faust, with his lower stats then Rider would be able to react to a completely unseen attack shooting at the speed of sniper fire. Hell, even Rider would probably be unable to do that. Fuck, Cu would not be able to even with protction from arrows because he cannot see the shots origin.

Well, sure, I guess. Rider could react to it, because Rider shouldn't really be as affected by the smoke since she fights wearing a blindfold anyway (no, I don't actually know exactly how that works...), but I agree that Faust couldn't.

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Never intentionally misled anyone. I tell you things, not everything because that is boring, but I tell you what I deem is necessary.

Except that we've had several examples where you've said stuff that is misleading or, apparently, just an outright lie. For example, the stuff about Hamara not being harmed by a tanker explosion, which several other people seemed to think you were just lying about.

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Its not my fault if you act on it. Its not my fault you need to use OOG knowledge to make IG decisions, definition of metagaming by the way.

It's difficult not to do so, because of human nature. Obviously it's something that we need to avoid, but if you tell us something OOCly then we are naturally going to end up thinking about it when we make decisions about our characters.

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In fact, I am near 100% sure that Rider not attack Hamara is only because I have said Rider is the worse possible person to fight him. Because she had no such qualms about fighting the completely unknown Faust when Sakura is in any dnager. And Rider is definitely feeling from the situation the Sakura is in danger. You made it clear in your posts.

Rider never attacked Faust either. She simply moved to protect Sakura. Her goal throughout that fight was simply to get Sakura away from Faust by any means necessary, she made no hostile moves towards him. That is entirely consistent with what she is doing here, the circumstances are just different. And, if it wasn't for the fact that Sakura wouldn't run and Rider knew that (again, me and Bdoom both failed to discuss the idea of Rider tracking Sakura after, and Bdoom said outright that Sakura would not run), Rider would have taken him on at least temporarily, whilst Sakura escaped. However, Rider's goal here is 1) get Sakura to safety and 2) survive so Sakura doesn't get upset at her loss. This Rider is not canon Rider, she's had 30 years of character development. She is aware that there is more to Sakura's well-being than just surviving.

Also, honestly, it was a close decision as to what to do. That's why it took me so long to post. And, no-one else seemed to think it was clear-cut how Rider would act. So, I don't think running was a ridiculous move there, particularly given that I a) assumed Pegasus would be summoned basically instantly and b) that Hamara could not see where Rider was heading.

There is probably a little bit of meta-gaming there, I will admit, but only in terms of trying to avoid getting in a situation where I end up having to abuse the no-kill rule to avoid a clearly fatal attack or similar, or a situation which ruins the RP for me. And, even then, I would only use that OOC information to choose between two perfectly ICly valid options.

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Just roll with the punches and move on. Its part of RPing.

Sure, I was just expressing how I felt about it here. And, as I said, I do not intend for Pegasus to be out of action for too long. We really do not have a clue how long it would take him to heal, and I intend to pick the choice that makes it easier for me to RP. Most likely, it will be a day to fully heal, but he doesn't necessarily need a fully-healed wing to be able to fly. And, assuming the healing works like servant healing, I'd expect the superficial outer damage to heal more quickly than internal damage (servants heal up external wounds very quickly, even if the internal damage remains underneath the surface).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 11, 2014, 04:48:35 AM
Elf, Shirou went with Law to his Car. Mia still with Forest. I think that is how the rides are being split up.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on December 11, 2014, 02:09:14 PM
So fast travel to Saber and Friends at the Crime Scene?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 11, 2014, 03:00:21 PM
Might be a good idea (though I can't speak for the people playing those characters of course).

Also just waiting for YOLF to respond with Tar before I respond with Rin so I don't step on his toes by accident.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on December 11, 2014, 04:24:41 PM
I'll respond with Tar in a bit, thanks for the consideration.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on December 11, 2014, 10:00:59 PM
Yup, getting there this next post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 11, 2014, 10:08:05 PM
Hmm, Elf, where does Forest usually live? Is it in the US? If she lives in Britain, then the bit about most people not knowing how to use manual transmission isn't true, because the vast majority of cars over here are manuals.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 12, 2014, 12:06:17 AM
I'll respond with Tar in a bit, thanks for the consideration.
Hey, no problem! :) Gives me a chance to write Rin a proper response with her greeting anyway.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on December 12, 2014, 12:23:03 AM
I've responded btw. If you missed it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on December 12, 2014, 12:54:14 AM
Hmm, Elf, where does Forest usually live? Is it in the US? If she lives in Britain, then the bit about most people not knowing how to use manual transmission isn't true, because the vast majority of cars over here are manuals.

She's pretty much lived the last century in the US more on than off. 
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 12, 2014, 01:13:09 AM
Ah, OK.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on December 12, 2014, 06:56:05 AM
post tomorrow, tired as dickballs
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 12, 2014, 11:44:41 AM
Elf, when you will introduce the rest of vampires you planned to?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on December 13, 2014, 05:36:36 PM
Check the latest post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 13, 2014, 07:11:23 PM
Okay, writing a reply now.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on December 13, 2014, 08:58:28 PM
Done with finals with a few days extra, but finally getting around to stating so here on DSM.
Not quite sure how to "introduce" Than'Sanel to the rest of the people that are apparently converging on Sarse and Ann, though.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 13, 2014, 09:49:42 PM
Ok, with the whole shitstorm with ann, its going to take me a bit to post because finals stuff I need to do. Will try and get to it tonight at some point, so please wait up a bit.

And as for Than'Sanel it might actually be better to have him meet Crest and the Arisen (forget name again). Mainly because it is already a shit storm, after Forest, Law, Shirou and Mia get out of there then Sarse and Ann can meet up with Than, but at the moment I might be too much a mess.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 13, 2014, 11:07:47 PM
My transformation complete, so don't be confused.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on December 13, 2014, 11:28:29 PM
Are you a magical girl?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 14, 2014, 12:27:46 AM
No, that's too silly.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 15, 2014, 04:15:40 AM
Won't be able to post tomorrow because of Latin exam and finishing a Final Paper, just as a heads up.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 17, 2014, 04:30:28 PM
Exams are the menace.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 17, 2014, 05:13:35 PM
This is hardly news.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 17, 2014, 05:24:13 PM
I will appreciate if Saito posts soonish so I can move on with my char.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 18, 2014, 12:12:35 AM
I will appreciate if Saito posts soonish so I can move on with my char.
>does not recognize I have a life

(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/jung567/1417697802878_zpsc5ef88f5.png)

I'm getting to it, Jeez.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 18, 2014, 12:16:56 AM
I mean, you give false hope by nerding out during 50 minute breaks instead of meditating before another exam.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 18, 2014, 12:56:45 AM
I mean, you give false hope by nerding out during 50 minute breaks instead of meditating before another exam.

(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/jung567/1417748226112_zps350a5b9c.jpg)

Alright, fair point. Sorry.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 18, 2014, 03:00:46 AM
Meanwhile I'm just waiting for Elf to take her turn, who's waiting for Kaze to post I think?

EDIT: Aaannd I'm an idiot and didn't check IC first. Nevermind! Though I guess maybe she's waiting for that group to get over to where Saber, Rin, Tar, and Grendel are maybe? I should probably just wait for her to confirm instead of putting words in her mouth. ^^"
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 18, 2014, 11:51:33 AM
I kind of moved on in accord with my own decision and assumed Puck tagged along.

Also, Elf and Umbra, I await your replies.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on December 18, 2014, 02:10:31 PM
Back from my [paternal] grandpa's 80th birthday celebration, so now I have much more time to post IC...when that time comes, since Umbra, YOLF, and I have a plan.
Of sorts.

I'm still somewhat regretting following a whim on Than'Sanel and making him Elemental focused.
I could've had him more Selesnya+Abzan focused with a plant elemental/saproling and elephant/rhino theme, dangit. :V
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on December 18, 2014, 04:48:06 PM
Why didn't Lawrence pack a rape whistle...
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on December 18, 2014, 04:48:34 PM
Why didn't Lawrence pack a rape whistle...
No one expects the Ann-quisition?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 18, 2014, 04:52:22 PM
Both bad puns and rape jokes are bad.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on December 19, 2014, 01:54:59 PM
Hey Kat, I edited my last post to contain the Fanged Foursome.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 19, 2014, 02:11:17 PM
Thanks, I appreciate it. I'll try to respond this day even in spite of my personal situation right now.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 21, 2014, 07:45:15 AM
Just in case of confusion, its your turn Names. Full Rotation.

Then its Rebeca's, then Aki, then Donkey again, as the cycle.

Just making sure its clear.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 21, 2014, 12:31:12 PM
Umbra and Saito, it's your turn again.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on December 22, 2014, 07:17:33 AM
Nevermind. Skype is back.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on December 22, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
I will post tonight when I get home!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 22, 2014, 04:21:20 PM
Kaze confirmed it's now Umbra's turn.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on December 22, 2014, 08:46:14 PM
It's Puck's turn since he hasn't even reacted to Kaze's guy popping up yet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 22, 2014, 09:33:51 PM
It's now your turn.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on December 24, 2014, 03:22:18 AM
Holy shit I actually submitted my last sheet what is this.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 24, 2014, 10:24:56 AM
You could have posted with the Mexican guy :V
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on December 24, 2014, 07:46:33 PM
I apologize, but my posting shall be delayed til after Christmas. Happy holidays everyone!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 24, 2014, 07:49:06 PM
No problem.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on December 24, 2014, 10:18:04 PM
I decided to go ahead and make my own character sheet, because this is my first one in a while there might be a lot of mistakes so feel free to correct those are argue against them if you need to, I'm open to debate.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on December 25, 2014, 02:06:35 AM
So why does Kayneth know martial arts?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on December 25, 2014, 03:06:35 AM
So why does Kayneth know martial arts?

That's sort of my question too.  He doesn't in canon and even states why he doesn't in Zero.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on December 25, 2014, 03:39:41 AM
I'm also wondering about the across the board Exceptional. Kayneth may be suited for combat because of Volumen, but it's not like he's that amazing physically. He's a researcher and polician, not a fighter.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on December 25, 2014, 05:10:17 AM
Perhaps Martial Arts was a bit of a misleading statement. He doesn't really have any martial arts style this is a method to counter a weapon flying straight at his face in a way that isn't just magecraft. He had a bit of a brawl with an insane and drugged Waver during the last part of the fourth war and he sees it as a bit of a necessary precaution in order to counter people who are immune to magic. (During that fight he also lost Volumen)

This is a Kayneth from after my story about him during the fourth war. (5 years after to be exact) He's taken all that happened into account and is learning to counter anything that might happen when he returns to Fuyuki. And because he will be suddenly summoned into this world with only the clothes on his back and immediate equipment he doesn't have any other mystic codes. (Though he could make some.)

As for his stats that was me taking a look at some of the other profiles with similar characters and basing that as well as the descriptions into what I thought worked for Kayneth.

I think it's safe to say that Kayneth would be able to reinforce should he need to, that and I'm sure he's at least peak for his body. I'm sure he takes care of himself fairly well. He might not train in a martial art but he probably does basic exercises and some more noble like sports.

So took him being at or near peak human for a 35 year old (With the ability to live longer and maintain body condition by magic.) and then added reinforcement into that.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 25, 2014, 05:22:15 AM
But he doesn't exercice.
His body is quite meh when it comes to physique, they do make a point of it in Zero.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on December 25, 2014, 05:55:04 AM
He doesn't strike me as the kind of person who would not bother to take care of himself.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 25, 2014, 06:00:06 AM
There's a difference between doing exercise and being not only in tip top shape, but also being damn good at melee combat. The latter requires a ton of training. And Kayneth isn't really the type to rely on melee to fight. He's not like Rin where she had Kirei to teach her how to use martial arts, and even Rin didn't exactly go into physical combat all that often. Nor would he care about using them. Kayneth is very much a mage to the core, and that means his attack style is going to depend strongly on magecraft no matter what.

Therefore, saying that he's more physically capable than even some of the best fighters already in the OP and also making a point of him being into melee combat when not only does it not make sense for the character, but is also not supported by the text is kinda silly.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 25, 2014, 11:01:54 PM
Human in physical stats would make more sense, IMHO.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on December 26, 2014, 12:46:03 AM
Alright this is clearly a losing game, perhaps my conception of Kayneth is a bit different then what I thought. I'll lower strength down to human. I do think that thanks to a combination of magic, equipment, and mystic code his agility and constitution are worthy of being exceptional.

He did have enough reaction time to survive the instant destruction of the hotel as well as the endurance to survive his body almost literally exploding. (With help but still)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on December 28, 2014, 03:46:49 AM
>Equivalent protection as steel armor

So basically some punk with a .22 LR pistol can bust his coat. OK.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on December 28, 2014, 04:01:32 AM
So like

heavily canon derivative Kayneth?

Because IC he looks down on anything that isn't magic, so like martial arts eh

Might as well call it Combat Experience because of 4th, from the way you worded it

Also the reason people see that coat coming is because it's goofy and out of place in modern society, not muhgic

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Catalyst Glove: A glove given to him by his former Servant Diarmuid Ua Dhuibne, while it is just a normal fingerless leather glove it contains a strong connection to his former Servant and would act as an excellent catalyst to summon him. Kayneth keeps it on his person at all times in case that need arrives.
Why didn't it get un-summoned when Lancer did?
If it was a catalyst and existed irl before lancer showed up, how did lancer get it to give to kayneth?
If it was just a glove he wore during hgw, how did it become an excellent catalyst while having zero connection to the legend and the throne version of diarmuid?
Why would kayneth try to summon a heroic spirit without the grail?
How would kayneth be able to summon a heroic spirit without the grail and all it gives?
Like, why in general
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on December 28, 2014, 09:48:41 AM
Hmm I think I forgot to mention that this is the Kayneth from my story and not the one during the 4th Grail War. But yes this is a Kayneth who has aged a bit more compared to his younger self.

Combat Experience is a good way to phrase what I was trying to give him yes.

As for the glove due to circumstances Lancer's body was used as a catalyst for a ritual and due to his loyalty towards his Master he thought it best to ensure Kayneth had a catalyst strong enough to ensure that if he was ever needed again he would be able to be summoned in a way that would put him in a state that closely resembled his 4th war self.

As for why the glove hasn't disappeared, well Kayneth infused magical energy into it to keep it from disappearing it. Because it's not a very high cost it's not that big a deal.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 28, 2014, 02:52:16 PM
Hmm I think I forgot to mention that this is the Kayneth from my story and not the one during the 4th Grail War. But yes this is a Kayneth who has aged a bit more compared to his younger self.

Combat Experience is a good way to phrase what I was trying to give him yes.

As for the glove due to circumstances Lancer's body was used as a catalyst for a ritual and due to his loyalty towards his Master he thought it best to ensure Kayneth had a catalyst strong enough to ensure that if he was ever needed again he would be able to be summoned in a way that would put him in a state that closely resembled his 4th war self.

As for why the glove hasn't disappeared, well Kayneth infused magical energy into it to keep it from disappearing it. Because it's not a very high cost it's not that big a deal.

(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/jung567/ScreenShot2014-12-25at63549PM_zpsbb691229.png)

Why does this profile suck so much?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 28, 2014, 04:34:38 PM
Cut it out. Pointing out problems is fine, stupid bullshit like this is just causing trouble.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 28, 2014, 04:51:26 PM
Cut it out. Pointing out problems is fine, stupid bullshit like this is just causing trouble.

k, watevah

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on December 28, 2014, 05:06:38 PM
Hmm I think I forgot to mention that this is the Kayneth from my story and not the one during the 4th Grail War. But yes this is a Kayneth who has aged a bit more compared to his younger self.

Combat Experience is a good way to phrase what I was trying to give him yes.

As for the glove due to circumstances Lancer's body was used as a catalyst for a ritual and due to his loyalty towards his Master he thought it best to ensure Kayneth had a catalyst strong enough to ensure that if he was ever needed again he would be able to be summoned in a way that would put him in a state that closely resembled his 4th war self.

As for why the glove hasn't disappeared, well Kayneth infused magical energy into it to keep it from disappearing it. Because it's not a very high cost it's not that big a deal.

The only thing I'm questioning is the use of the glove as a catalyst for summoning. Kayneth can't summon Diarmuid without the system of the Greater Grail in place but the description seems to imply that he can.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on December 28, 2014, 06:03:48 PM
Well the Grail was never dismantled during the 4th in this particular story so there is a chance a Grail War could start up again.

Also it ended in a manner similar to the canon version just with slightly less mass explosion from a cursed grail, and because Kayneth's been researching the Grail in general and Angra Mainyu he expects something is up. That's why he's always prepared. (And it's not like a glove takes up much room in his coat either.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on December 28, 2014, 06:15:07 PM
But he can't summon diarmuid, I hope it is clear.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on December 28, 2014, 06:19:27 PM
Oh well yeah he'd need to be in a Grail War for that to happen and I'm fairly certain Cross Effects has nothing like that going on right now.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on December 28, 2014, 06:22:41 PM
All the servants are holdovers from some grail war or another, yeah.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on December 28, 2014, 09:29:36 PM
Makes sense, it's a very situational object, it might not ever even be used but I figured that if this was a Kayneth who appeared out of the blue then he'd have that on him so he does.

Also second character is done, I'll probably make one more before I officially start. I don't know who remembers but Cross Effects used to be on Beasts Lair a very long time ago. This guy was one of my first characters on that even though we didn't do much back then.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 28, 2014, 09:57:29 PM
It wasn't quite Cross Effects IIRC, but I remember something extremely similar, yes.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 30, 2014, 02:55:28 AM
You know, I was wondering if we couldn't just simply try to reorganize the whole CE into something more manageable for all members and staff. Like make a huge board on its own like: Type Moon, Other Fandoms, General Discussion, Unlimited Creativity Works , and Board Issues.

That way we can put in specific buildings and areas as its own sub-boards in CE's own board section. If you want to RP? Make a thread for the event. But in the Subject section you can put in "tags" to invite only specific people to join, right next to the title of the thread itself.

Something like these:

No Tags: If there are no tags, then anyone can join. The thread is open.

[Open]: Like above. Anyone can join if they wish.

[Closed]: Only the thread creator is allowed in. This is usually used for solo training.

[Locked: Thread interactions are finished. Tag to be added once event is finished.

[Private]: Only those invited may join.

[Member/Character Name]: Thread reserved for thread creator and character/member names only. A list of names can be added too for additional members to join.

[No Combat]: Non-combat thread. Non-violent interactions.

[No Death]: Fights may be allowed, but no deaths. However, you will never see this in a Plot Event as you must be prepared for your character to die.

[WIP]: Thread that has yet to be finished. Do not join until it is finished and the tag is gone. Usually used for character creation.

[Mission]: Mission thread. Succeeding in finishing the Mission may give you rewards. But failure may give you nothing or death.

[Plot Event]: Plot Event thread. Something will happen to advance the plot. Expect death if you are not careful.

Example of Tag Usage:  Subject:   Blah Blah Blah Something [Closed]

So some members can have some control who gets to join in this specific event and keeps some order in the RP itself. Since we've had quite a bit of fuckery in 2.0 and some of 3.0 so far, I think this could help. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on December 30, 2014, 03:27:31 AM
Ah, so like every separate instance of character interaction would have its own thread basically, in which the rules would be laid out via tags, and could also be used as a way to tell other players that they won't be taking anyone else, preventing massive gaggles of PCs in the same place. It might also prevent some characters (read: Henderson) from just flitting about from event to event doing completely random shit and interrupting what might have otherwise been a serious or perhaps intimate moment. It's a rather good suggestion.

The free form nature of CE means that what starts as a friendly reunion could, under the right circumstances, become an RP-wide plot event, but I assume that were such a thing to happen either the tag would be altered to reflect the new situation or the particular thread would close and a new one with the proper tag would open up where the previous left off.

The main issue I think is the way people's antagonists work, especially one like mine. He can and will assault someone out of the blue when he thinks they are vulnerable. Would antagonists, with GM permission, be capable of hijacking No-Death or Open tags and turning them into Plot Events? One way or another I think antagonists should have special rules regarding what sort of shit they're allowed to pull and where. They exist to incite conflict, to force the PCs to get out there and make them stop.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 30, 2014, 03:33:00 AM
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The main issue I think is the way people's antagonists work, especially one like mine. He can and will assault someone out of the blue when he thinks they are vulnerable. Would antagonists, with GM permission, be capable of hijacking No-Death or Open tags and turning them into Plot Events? One way or another I think antagonists should have special rules regarding what sort of shit they're allowed to pull and where. They exist to incite conflict, to force the PCs to get out there and make them stop.

So as long as they talk it over with the GM's, I don't see why not.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 30, 2014, 03:38:33 AM
I think that might just overcomplicated the RP a bit. But that's just me.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 30, 2014, 03:40:24 AM
I think that might just overcomplicated the RP a bit. But that's just me.

Which is why we can set up a timeline thread to keep track of what's happening so far. People are responsible to post into to help keep track of what happened to their characters and others.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 30, 2014, 04:40:59 AM
I don't think we need it, there aren't enough people in the RP, and there are too many areas in the RP. And we certainly don't need explicit restrictions on who can join a group, IMO (in particular, I dislike the idea of a "private" thread, because that allows people to just be excluded from the RP entirely). There are situations where people shouldn't just show up out of the blue, but that can be dealt with by just talking to people.

Also, the entire RP is "no death" unless players say so, so a "no death" tag on threads is pointless. I also don't think Antagonists should be treated differently in terms of what they can do. Not all non-antagonist characters will be friendly with other non-antagonist characters, and I don't think they should automatically be restricted from doing things like attacking characters they have issues with just because they're in a "private" thread.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 30, 2014, 05:25:24 AM
I don't think we need it, there aren't enough people in the RP,

And we have a lot of characters. Your point? Also ~20 people in a RP is considered so so in the Forum RPing communities. Which we have.

and there are too many areas in the RP.

And? Then we partition some of these buildings and places into districts as the sub-boards.

And we certainly don't need explicit restrictions on who can join a group, IMO

2.0 and 3.0 says otherwise. Too many people joined into one place and led to a clusterfuck that is harder to follow. You can try to ask to join even when tags are set in, I think people here are very willing to let others in if you try to reason with them. I mean, hey. Would you want Hamara to barge into your Rider BDSM scene for no reason other than to fuck your shit up?

(in particular, I dislike the idea of a "private" thread, because that allows people to just be excluded from the RP entirely). There are situations where people shouldn't just show up out of the blue

Refer to my Hamara statement. Also there's other RP's you could join. Or you could just make one yourself, lol. Asking is also a thing, lol.

but that can be dealt with by just talking to people.

So why can't you just talk with some of them to let you in? It's just that the tags are to give people the general idea that they want this little moment of development for themselves. Unless someone really wants to be in on it, then go ahead and talk.

Also, the entire RP is "no death" unless players say so, so a "no death" tag on threads is pointless.

Tags were supposed to be an example. So, lolok.

I also don't think Antagonists should be treated differently in terms of what they can do. Not all non-antagonist characters will be friendly with other non-antagonist characters, and I don't think they should automatically be restricted from doing things like attacking characters they have issues with just because they're in a "private" thread.

Try saying that again when you're trying to RP with Sakuwhore and then someone tries to start shit with you.  You know, like Kat or Magos. or even Knick I mean I would've thought you of all people would kinda appreciate this. But hey, ok, lol.

Seriously though, GM's would have the power to let them in or not. Even if it's private. I don't see what's the problem with that.

I really don't give a shit if you don't allow the tags because they're really not my main concern. But at least give the CE RP its own board so we can organize shit with the RP threads and a timeline thread to help keep track for people. Makes that shit easy to navigate around and then post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on December 30, 2014, 06:06:36 AM
I will start up shit with everyone. Mike just happened to be with the only group I could do it with that would not fuck up things 10 ways to sunday.

Like really, at the time the other group I could have done it really would have been Crest and Caedia, but Crest and Hamara meeting is not something that I want to happen yet if I can avoid it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on December 30, 2014, 01:12:52 PM
I really don't think we need to complicate this, but a timeline graph recording notable events would maybe not be a bad idea.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 30, 2014, 02:44:45 PM
I don't think we need it, there aren't enough people in the RP,

And we have a lot of characters. Your point? Also ~20 people in a RP is considered so so in the Forum RPing communities. Which we have.

Well, we have a reasonable number of players, but how many active characters? I'm not saying this is a small RP, I just don't think it's big enough to split posts off into different sections (each section is going to be very sparsely used), not to mention that making the actual split would be a right pain in the ass since we've already made posts in one thread.

But, well, it's up to Elf, ultimately. If she likes the idea, then I (or Alice) will implement it for her (as long as it doesn't require hours and hours of work...).

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and there are too many areas in the RP.

And? Then we partition some of these buildings and places into districts as the sub-boards.

Honestly, I don't even know what district Sakura's house is in. The result of this would be extremely fragmented posting that makes it very difficult to follow what is actually going on outside your section of the RP. Or, even, notice what is going on at all.

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And we certainly don't need explicit restrictions on who can join a group, IMO

2.0 and 3.0 says otherwise. Too many people joined into one place and led to a clusterfuck that is harder to follow. You can try to ask to join even when tags are set in, I think people here are very willing to let others in if you try to reason with them. I mean, hey. Would you want Hamara to barge into your Rider BDSM scene for no reason other than to fuck your shit up?

The thing is, though, whilst the clusterfucks make it hard to actually follow what is going on, they also allow people to meet up. This RP is not the same as a Grail War RP, characters in it have no intrinsic reason to go looking for each other, mostly. So, clusterfuck-like situations are necessary to allow character interactions to develop, even if they're a pain to RP.

But, yeah, you're right that there are scenes I would not want interrupted, I just don't think we need an explicit tagging system to prevent that. Just people not being dicks.

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(in particular, I dislike the idea of a "private" thread, because that allows people to just be excluded from the RP entirely). There are situations where people shouldn't just show up out of the blue

Refer to my Hamara statement. Also there's other RP's you could join. Or you could just make one yourself, lol. Asking is also a thing, lol.

Erm, no, there aren't "other RPs" I can join, because I can't join anything on BL....

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but that can be dealt with by just talking to people.

So why can't you just talk with some of them to let you in? It's just that the tags are to give people the general idea that they want this little moment of development for themselves. Unless someone really wants to be in on it, then go ahead and talk.

Yeah, I guess.

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Also, the entire RP is "no death" unless players say so, so a "no death" tag on threads is pointless.

Tags were supposed to be an example. So, lolok.

Yeah, fair enough (I know you just copy-pasted it directly from the other site).

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I also don't think Antagonists should be treated differently in terms of what they can do. Not all non-antagonist characters will be friendly with other non-antagonist characters, and I don't think they should automatically be restricted from doing things like attacking characters they have issues with just because they're in a "private" thread.

Try saying that again when you're trying to RP with Sakuwhore and then someone tries to start shit with you.  You know, like Kat or Magos. or even Knick I mean I would've thought you of all people would kinda appreciate this. But hey, ok, lol.

Seriously though, GM's would have the power to let them in or not. Even if it's private. I don't see what's the problem with that.

Yeah, I guess this is a valid point. I just think it's generally easier to arrange things between players and not to keep demanding things of the GMs.

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I really don't give a shit if you don't allow the tags because they're really not my main concern. But at least give the CE RP its own board so we can organize shit with the RP threads and a timeline thread to help keep track for people. Makes that shit easy to navigate around and then post.

CE already has its own board (albeit a sub-board of the RP board). I don't see how making it a top-level board would change things.

I really don't think we need to complicate this, but a timeline graph recording notable events would maybe not be a bad idea.

Yeah, agreed, I think that makes sense.

Well, most likely a timeline thread rather than graph (unless someone is volunteering to draw the graph...), but the idea works fine.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 30, 2014, 03:54:28 PM
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I really don't think we need to complicate this, but a timeline graph recording notable events would maybe not be a bad idea.

It wouldn't. You guys think it is. Like I said earlier, I'm just suggesting tags as a secondary thing. Organizing the whole rp events in threads would make it easier to keep track. There's nothing complicated by it. Make a thread and post. Put a "date and place" at the top of the post/thread to know where and when it happened so that it can be recorded in a timeline thread.

The way we have it now is that we all cram everything in one thread, which would make it hard for some of the uninitiated to keep track what happened so far and no idea where to post their characters. Because it's so unorganized and just cluttered with everyone's rp events everywhere. Especially for some people who may have RPed for a while and had to go on a hiatus for number of reasons.

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But, well, it's up to Elf, ultimately. If she likes the idea, then I (or Alice) will implement it for her (as long as it doesn't require hours and hours of work...).

Literally just set up new boards with some sparse descriptions. I don't think it requires that much.

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Honestly, I don't even know what district Sakura's house is in. The result of this would be extremely fragmented posting that makes it very difficult to follow what is actually going on outside your section of the RP. Or, even, notice what is going on at all.

And? Residential areas are a thing. So what if it is fragmented? You're allowed to read other threads and make the call whether you could try to let your character in or not, lol. No one's stopping you in this regard. Don't just have her stick around and be a boring NPC in some humdrum apartment.

But then again, she actually is. My bad.

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Yeah, I guess this is a valid point. I just think it's generally easier to arrange things between players and not to keep demanding things of the GMs.

The way I'd have the tags is that it would first settle between the members to decide if this character can barge in or not. That way GM's don't have to be as busy. But if a consensus can't be reached, GM's have to make the call. I don't think there's going to be a lot of disagreements. Yet. Again, really don't care if tags are implemented or not.

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CE already has its own board (albeit a sub-board of the RP board). I don't see how making it a top-level board would change things.

Makes things more organized and maximizes the timeline idea. Since the latter would link towards the rp threads it has recorded.

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Well, most likely a timeline thread rather than graph (unless someone is volunteering to draw the graph...), but the idea works fine.

You don't need a graph. Just a small template and organize them in order by time and day. On top of the timeline, GM's could decide if they could set up the weather or moon phases at the time (both are optional) however the hell they want. Like a weather forecast kind of thing you see in Persona series.

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[b]Date:[/b] (Day #)
[b]Time:[/b] (Self-explanatory)
[b]Weather:[/b]
[b]Moon Phases:[/b]
[b]Participating Characters:[/b] (Self-explanatory)
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Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 30, 2014, 08:50:58 PM
We'd need people to volunteer to help with the timeline so it's easier for me to put everything in place. ...One thing I ain't got is a great memory. ^^" And I haven't been paying as much attention this time, so I'd need at least one person to give me a run down before I can start organizing things in the timeline thread.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 30, 2014, 09:02:57 PM
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I really don't think we need to complicate this, but a timeline graph recording notable events would maybe not be a bad idea.

It wouldn't. You guys think it is. Like I said earlier, I'm just suggesting tags as a secondary thing. Organizing the whole rp events in threads would make it easier to keep track. There's nothing complicated by it. Make a thread and post. Put a "date and place" at the top of the post/thread to know where and when it happened so that it can be recorded in a timeline thread.

I think the timeline idea is definitely a good one. I don't think we need hundreds of threads for every single interaction, though, it just massively over-complicates things.

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The way we have it now is that we all cram everything in one thread, which would make it hard for some of the uninitiated to keep track what happened so far and no idea where to post their characters. Because it's so unorganized and just cluttered with everyone's rp events everywhere. Especially for some people who may have RPed for a while and had to go on a hiatus for number of reasons.

I think it occasionally gets confusing, but I also think that having loads of separate threads would get confusing, particularly with people moving from one to another.

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But, well, it's up to Elf, ultimately. If she likes the idea, then I (or Alice) will implement it for her (as long as it doesn't require hours and hours of work...).

Literally just set up new boards with some sparse descriptions. I don't think it requires that much.

We have to work out which boards to have, and to make sure that the concept works without getting horribly complicated.

But, anyway, like I said, it's up to Elf. It's her RP, not ours.

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Honestly, I don't even know what district Sakura's house is in. The result of this would be extremely fragmented posting that makes it very difficult to follow what is actually going on outside your section of the RP. Or, even, notice what is going on at all.

And? Residential areas are a thing. So what if it is fragmented? You're allowed to read other threads and make the call whether you could try to let your character in or not, lol. No one's stopping you in this regard. Don't just have her stick around and be a boring NPC in some humdrum apartment.

My point is that people will lose track of what is going on and where.

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Yeah, I guess this is a valid point. I just think it's generally easier to arrange things between players and not to keep demanding things of the GMs.

The way I'd have the tags is that it would first settle between the members to decide if this character can barge in or not. That way GM's don't have to be as busy. But if a consensus can't be reached, GM's have to make the call. I don't think there's going to be a lot of disagreements. Yet. Again, really don't care if tags are implemented or not.

I don't think we need tags, beyond maybe "open" and "closed" for places where anyone can show up, and places where you should talk to the players already involved first. The rest are redundant.

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CE already has its own board (albeit a sub-board of the RP board). I don't see how making it a top-level board would change things.

Makes things more organized and maximizes the timeline idea. Since the latter would link towards the rp threads it has recorded.

Everything is already organised. We have an RP forum, and we have CE (which is an RP) as a sub-forum of that. I don't see how making CE a separate top-level forum makes it more organised.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 30, 2014, 10:26:07 PM
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We'd need people to volunteer to help with the timeline so it's easier for me to put everything in place. ...One thing I ain't got is a great memory. ^^" And I haven't been paying as much attention this time, so I'd need at least one person to give me a run down before I can start organizing things in the timeline thread.

And that's the reason why I even suggested the threads in the first place. Easier navigation allows easier run down of what happened so far from when it began and where it ended. Not letting it all clutter into one thread like an autistic tower stack of legos.

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I think the timeline idea is definitely a good one. I don't think we need hundreds of threads for every single interaction, though, it just massively over-complicates things.

You over-exaggerate how difficult it is.

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I think it occasionally gets confusing, but I also think that having loads of separate threads would get confusing, particularly with people moving from one to another.

Um, hi? That's why the Timeline is also suggested?

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We have to work out which boards to have, and to make sure that the concept works without getting horribly complicated.

But, anyway, like I said, it's up to Elf. It's her RP, not ours.

Sure, it's Elf's call. I'm willing to help in any case.

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My point is that people will lose track of what is going on and where.

Refer to Timeline comment. And bookmarking threads is also a thing. Just saying.

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I don't think we need tags, beyond maybe "open" and "closed" for places where anyone can show up, and places where you should talk to the players already involved first. The rest are redundant.

K, don't care. I repeat again it is a secondary suggestion that I give less shit about. Now let's focus on the other one.

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Everything is already organised. We have an RP forum, and we have CE (which is an RP) as a sub-forum of that. I don't see how making CE a separate top-level forum makes it more organised.

Refer to my comment to Rae.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 30, 2014, 11:47:10 PM
I'm gonna make a timeline thread at least. If someone could be awesome and go through and give me a rundown though, I'd appreciate it a lot.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 30, 2014, 11:50:25 PM
Threads for major locations would certainly be good.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on December 31, 2014, 03:26:50 AM
I do like the idea of it having its own board type thing honestly.

And putting date and RP time would be a good idea as well, not to mention location.  I don't know about the sublets for different locations though. Unless its like major locations.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on December 31, 2014, 04:45:07 AM
Giving Cross Effects its own board would be easy enough, you just have to give the word. :)

As for the date and time stuff, if we started doing that, would we just start after that's implemented as a rule? Or would we have to go back and date all the posts we did?

I don't know about making boards for all the different locations for sure either though. We need to make sure not to overcomplicate things.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 31, 2014, 03:34:25 PM
Yeah, moving it to a top-level board is no issue, although I'm not sure exactly how it would help (since it's already a seperate sub-board).

As for the time and date thing, I'm not convinced about that, honestly, for a couple of reasons. Firstly, it requires us to actually explicitly work out how long every post takes, which is a pain. Secondly, it causes serious problems when groups get out of sync. Right now, if I'm in a group that has been doing something that should logically take an hour and you're in a group doing something that should logically take 10 minutes, we just overlook that (it happened several times in the first CE, particularly with Rider). If you have an explicit date written, then it becomes impossible for the two groups to interact until they are in sync (which I suspect is unlikely to happen very often), which tends to force us into seperate, non-interacting groups a lot of the time.

As for location, I guess giving that might make sense, although it is a bit more hassle, again, because it means actually explicitly working out where you are.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on December 31, 2014, 03:48:14 PM
Seriously, just a list of notable events that happened each night and day is enough. They don't even need to be chronologically ordered because" the Nexus is weird" is still a good excuse for everything. Like so:

NIGHT 1
- Fight At The Hospital
- Church Burnt Down By Henderson
- Police Starts Tracking A Monstrous Murderer
- <Notable event #4>
- <Notable event #5>
- (...)

DAY 1
- <Notable event #1>
- <Notable event #2>
- (...)

And so on and so forth.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 31, 2014, 03:55:45 PM
Blah Blah Blah.

(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n530/jung567/1417068436165_zps1d963125.jpg)

Aaaand, you're just blowing things out of proportion to make it look more difficult than it really is.

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As for the time and date thing, I'm not convinced about that, honestly, for a couple of reasons. Firstly, it requires us to actually explicitly work out how long every post takes, which is a pain.

And? You can just reasonably discuss with others and come up with how long it took overall in that thread. I mean it didn't take us much to decide when Night 1 or Day 2 started or ended respectively. The thing about this dating system is to allow people to be in separate days if they wish to without clogging up the whole thread that we still share at this very moment. This is why I said it's going to need some organization. And that's exactly what the timeline is for.

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Secondly, it causes serious problems when groups get out of sync. Right now, if I'm in a group that has been doing something that should logically take an hour and you're in a group doing something that should logically take 10 minutes, we just overlook that (it happened several times in the first CE, particularly with Rider).

Timeline, putting events in order. Like literally, you're responsible for your own characters. Contribute to the timeline or don't and take responsibility for it. Like, don't bitch about it if you haven't done anything for your characters. Since everyone's supposed to responsible with their own characters.

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. If you have an explicit date written, then it becomes impossible for the two groups to interact until they are in sync (which I suspect is unlikely to happen very often), which tends to force us into seperate, non-interacting groups a lot of the time.

Which is why we can always adopt a bit of fluid-time within the RP. So as long as it's recorded in timeline and the event is kept in mind, there should literally be no problem. Just remember not to stray too far away in days and nights while staying in sync with everyone.

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As for location, I guess giving that might make sense, although it is a bit more hassle, again, because it means actually explicitly working out where you are.

Because it truly wasn't a problem before when you posted in CE at first, amirite? Not every character is going to be in one place, lol.



Seriously, just a list of notable events that happened each night and day is enough. They don't even need to be chronologically ordered because" the Nexus is weird" is still a good excuse for everything. Like so:

NIGHT 1
- Fight At The Hospital
- Church Burnt Down By Henderson
- Police Starts Tracking A Monstrous Murderer
- <Notable event #4>
- <Notable event #5>
- (...)

DAY 1
- <Notable event #1>
- <Notable event #2>
- (...)

And so on and so forth.

Eh, that works.



While we may have a timeline of what actually happened throughout the whole plot, I also suggest a separate sub-board for a character's own thread compilation of what happened to them and describing what relationship they may have with other characters. In the community of forum RP's, they're called Character Trackers.

It's to give other members a more isolated focus on this other member's character. To give them an idea what happened to them and what relationships they hold with other characters. That way it helps them give an idea how to interact with said character.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on December 31, 2014, 04:45:16 PM
PARIAH- Forest can smell the poo on you!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 31, 2014, 05:19:47 PM
Timeline, putting events in order. Like literally, you're responsible for your own characters. Contribute to the timeline or don't and take responsibility for it. Like, don't bitch about it if you haven't done anything for your characters. Since everyone's supposed to responsible with their own characters.

My character is literally just following around Bdoom's, there's no point in me adding anything to the timeline.

And, you're missing my point. Working things out doesn't change the time disparity. If one group says it's 10PM and another group says it's 6 PM then the two groups cannot interact unless the earlier group somehow does a time-skip, whereas right now we just ignore the time difference and jump in there.

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. If you have an explicit date written, then it becomes impossible for the two groups to interact until they are in sync (which I suspect is unlikely to happen very often), which tends to force us into seperate, non-interacting groups a lot of the time.

Which is why we can always adopt a bit of fluid-time within the RP. So as long as it's recorded in timeline and the event is kept in mind, there should literally be no problem. Just remember not to stray too far away in days and nights while staying in sync with everyone.

Sure, but as soon as you allocate a fixed time to an event, you lose the ability to have fluid time. We need to keep somewhere close, but we don't need exact timings for every post.

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While we may have a timeline of what actually happened throughout the whole plot, I also suggest a separate sub-board for a character's own thread compilation of what happened to them and describing what relationship they may have with other characters. In the community of forum RP's, they're called Character Trackers.

It's to give other members a more isolated focus on this other member's character. To give them an idea what happened to them and what relationships they hold with other characters. That way it helps them give an idea how to interact with said character.

I really don't think we need or want an entire thread for each character saying what they've done. For example, Rider's thread would literally be a copy of part of Sakura's. A timeline listing events and the characters involved in them is easily enough.

PARIAH- Forest can smell the poo on you!

Lol.

Also, lol at Saber. "Yeah, it's fine that you tried to murder an innocent person in cold blood just in case, but how dare you actually take the most efficient method of doing so rather than charging in like a moron"....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on December 31, 2014, 05:46:56 PM
PARIAH- Forest can smell the poo on you!

Blame Wanderer for not giving the kid a bath.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on December 31, 2014, 05:52:41 PM
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My character is literally just following around Bdoom's, there's no point in me adding anything to the timeline.

And, you're missing my point. Working things out doesn't change the time disparity. If one group says it's 10PM and another group says it's 6 PM then the two groups cannot interact unless the earlier group somehow does a time-skip, whereas right now we just ignore the time difference and jump in there.

Uh, sure if Bdoom's filling it in for you, lol. At least one participant in a specific event that posts up into the timeline is just really the minimum. And so what about this time disparity? If you want in the event, then you can just rp in it if your character fits.

Fluidity of time. We can just literally RP as we still do. Just in more organized threads and times just to give a better idea when is when and being there just for the sake of it. No one said ever said anything about you just being completely chained into one specific time and date. But hey, if the idea of time is too much for your mind, then sure scrap it. We can literally stick with Days and Nights if you want.

Or if we're still going with the time, just plan ahead with other partners on how long you want this specific event to last. The time and date is just to give a rather "broad" idea of when something happened. You don't have to worry that much about how long something really lasted. Just give it a ballpark approximation.

I'm okay with Yolf's suggestion anyway.

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Sure, but as soon as you allocate a fixed time to an event, you lose the ability to have fluid time.

Doesn't really have to be. You just really think it is. Again, you're over-complicating shit. But hey, since you keep bringing up improbable issues, then let's go with Yolf's suggestion.

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We need to keep somewhere close, but we don't need exact timings for every post.

And that's literally the point I'm trying to make here. The time and date is just to give a better idea when something happened. Don't be so hung up about it. You don't have to let it completely chain you. Just try to be active about it.

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I really don't think we need or want an entire thread for each character saying what they've done. For example, Rider's thread would literally be a copy of part of Sakura's. A timeline listing events and the characters involved in them is easily enough.

Because Rider totes the main grill of the whole RP, sure, k. I mean, you could literally just have Rider do something than just be a mere babysitter.

You don't want a more isolated timeline, fine.  So how about that summary of the relationship between other characters with yours? You gonna say that's unneeded?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on December 31, 2014, 06:02:11 PM
I quite like the summary thread idea
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 01, 2015, 10:36:21 AM
Okay, now I'm a little confused, because I'm pretty sure I had Grendel leave already, but Elf's post notes Grendel's presence...Umm...Help?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on January 01, 2015, 05:42:09 PM
Oh shit, he left, editing post now.

Sorry about that.

Post now edited!

Now waiting on YOLF for Mr. Tar.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 02, 2015, 03:31:28 AM
I'm sorry, you're not getting effortposting from me while I'm still recovering from the New Years'.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 04, 2015, 05:31:38 AM
Half-serious question, would anybody be interested in a Colosseum style thread for this?

Basically a place outside the normal RP for people to battle if they so choose to do so.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on January 04, 2015, 06:38:53 AM
I don't see an issue inheirent to it, but with the enormous range of powerlevels I'm not sure how useful it would be.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: MissingMandible on January 04, 2015, 07:30:45 AM
Only if I am able to challenge others to a Rap Battle
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 04, 2015, 10:15:18 PM
Half-serious question, would anybody be interested in a Colosseum style thread for this?

Basically a place outside the normal RP for people to battle if they so choose to do so.

I think it's a good idea, although how much use it would get I'm not sure. Still, having the possibility there makes sense.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 05, 2015, 02:32:45 AM
So since we're getting closer to ending Day 1 and moving on to Day 2 (I think), I'll go ahead and bring up my thing then.

I already talked about this in the CE chat on Skype, but on either Day 2 or Day 3 I was going to have a little side mission thing. Basically, blow up some Nazis. Let guy retrieve some data before blowing up said Nazis. Get the hell outta there. Get paid.

I wanted to do a role call on who I've got recruited for that so far, and then see if I can't get anyone else to join. I can wait til day 3 if people need more time or if there's already lots of plans for Day 2.

So far if I remember right, YOLF and Umbra volunteered characters. Kat offered one too I think, but I didn't get definitive confirmation from him. So yeah, anyone else interested? I can give more details than "blow up them Nazis" if asked.

EDIT: Knick volunteered Crest in the CE chat, with the disclaimer that he'll probably be all "what is gun." That puts us at 3 confirmed, 1 maybe. Anyone else? 

Also monetary reward for characters doing this in IC is 20,000 per character.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on January 05, 2015, 04:19:49 AM
Blow up nazis for money? Noel needs a job, and I'd actually been considering having her go and look for work as a vigalante, so sure, consider her in.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on January 05, 2015, 03:09:03 PM
Lorenzo needs money, he might look for a job after he is tended to, and blowing nazis sounds like something he'd like to do, so why not?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on January 05, 2015, 03:20:30 PM
Lorenzo needs money, he might look for a job after he is tended to, and blowing nazis sounds like something he'd like to do, so why not?

Would he mind taking jobs from a former Nazi officer?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on January 05, 2015, 03:38:36 PM
As long as said former nazi officer was not outright evil, he'd probably do it. He isn't the type to judge people on their past, so as long as the person is not unpleasant, he would not flat out refuse...
Besides, it's not like he knows what a nazi is.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 05, 2015, 03:59:11 PM
He isn't the type to judge people on their past, so as long as the person is not unpleasant, he would not flat out refuse...

So, that's a "no", then....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on January 05, 2015, 04:10:35 PM
He isn't the type to judge people on their past, so as long as the person is not unpleasant, he would not flat out refuse...

So, that's a "no", then....

And what makes you say that?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 05, 2015, 07:37:51 PM
He isn't the type to judge people on their past, so as long as the person is not unpleasant, he would not flat out refuse...

So, that's a "no", then....

And what makes you say that?

Because Neo is a thoroughly unpleasant person, and seems utterly incapable of not acting like one....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 05, 2015, 07:40:04 PM
A lot of people in the RP are fairly horrible people. They are just good at hiding it.

Like Crest, he is probably one of the most selfish people in the RP. He just does not really get owning material things so he does not really act on it in ways that most people do.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 05, 2015, 07:44:50 PM
I'm okay with wrapping up soon Night 1. 'Mordred' needs a break for tonight.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on January 05, 2015, 08:59:04 PM
Except you know Mike, Neo isn't the ex-nazi.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 05, 2015, 10:01:39 PM
A lot of people in the RP are fairly horrible people. They are just good at hiding it.

Like Crest, he is probably one of the most selfish people in the RP. He just does not really get owning material things so he does not really act on it in ways that most people do.

Well, perhaps, but Ivan's characters aren't even good at hiding it....

Except you know Mike, Neo isn't the ex-nazi.

None of them are particularly nice, or very good at hiding it....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 05, 2015, 10:30:03 PM
I don't know, the girl if kinda nice. The ex-nazi is a bushiness man that would step on literally all of my characters toes the wrong way except for Hamara or Grenth, but for completely different reasons, but he is not inherently a bad person. He more natural.

And Neo... well, he is Neo.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 05, 2015, 10:31:01 PM
Neo is a hate sink, and performs that role splendidly whether that's intentional or not.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 05, 2015, 10:40:00 PM
Well, yes, but Neo tends to drive just about everyone else off, and Rattus is not exactly perfect, by any means.

I'm trying to find where we had the discussion about Ivan's characters....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 05, 2015, 10:45:32 PM
But, who fucking cares? It's his right to roleplay his characters as he wishes to.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 05, 2015, 10:54:19 PM
Of course. I'm just pointing out how people might react to him.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 05, 2015, 11:11:55 PM
You seem to be only one caring about that OOC. Take it to PMs.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on January 06, 2015, 11:39:54 AM
Well, yes, but Neo tends to drive just about everyone else off, and Rattus is not exactly perfect, by any means.

I'm trying to find where we had the discussion about Ivan's characters....

Neo's shtick is to be a giant asshole. I thought you were supposed to get this already.

On the other hand, Rattus isn't perfect, of course. If I made him perfect, he would be a Marty Sue. And besides, the wealthy businessman, at best, is the equivalent of an awkward nerd and, at worst, seems to be a psychiatric-social basket case.

Otherwise, don't confuse Rattus with Neo. And most of all, you'll only look stupid if you confuse Yukina with Neo.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 06, 2015, 03:12:21 PM
Well, yes, but Neo tends to drive just about everyone else off, and Rattus is not exactly perfect, by any means.

I'm trying to find where we had the discussion about Ivan's characters....

Neo's shtick is to be a giant asshole. I thought you were supposed to get this already.

Yeah, I got that. Still, the others don't exactly stop him....

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On the other hand, Rattus isn't perfect, of course. If I made him perfect, he would be a Marty Sue. And besides, the wealthy businessman, at best, is the equivalent of an awkward nerd and, at worst, seems to be a psychiatric-social basket case.

Well, yeah, sure. But, I would expect Neo to cause him problems with his general assholishness.

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Otherwise, don't confuse Rattus with Neo. And most of all, you'll only look stupid if you confuse Yukina with Neo.

Honestly, Yukina I know very little of. She doesn't seem to do a lot.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on January 06, 2015, 11:01:56 PM
Yeah, I got that. Still, the others don't exactly stop him....

They do. Read it my posts carefully. And even if they did, Neo doesn't care. What, you expect him to just stop after being told to stop?

No. It seems as if Neo's raison 'd etre is to be a jerk, and he'll stop at nothing to be one.

Well, yeah, sure. But, I would expect Neo to cause him problems with his general assholishness.

Again, he does. You know what happened to the three of them after Neo badmouthed Sakura, right? And even if Rattus said to Neo to tone it down, Neo's like "No, should do that." or something.

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Honestly, Yukina I know very little of. She doesn't seem to do a lot.

She's just silent because that's her personality profile: the stereotypical Yamato Nadaeshiko and moe girl stereotype. Otherwise, she's the engineer and blacksmith of the group.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 08, 2015, 03:06:25 AM
Would either Elf or Nachos be willing to go and ahead accept Kayneth if there is nothing wrong with the profile itself?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on January 08, 2015, 03:58:43 AM
sorry haven't been posting, icestorm during the weekend, more snow incoming (and has come since) and work never stops throwing its 12 hour days of doing other people's jobs at me

sleep
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on January 08, 2015, 04:02:09 AM
ikr! D:
The completely frozen streets are the worst, can't walk a few feet without slipping and risking bashing your head on the frozen ground. Like, people can die from this shit. Bestest of luck man :/
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: MissingMandible on January 08, 2015, 05:00:25 AM
ikr! D:
The completely frozen streets are the worst, can't walk a few feet without slipping and risking bashing your head on the frozen ground. Like, people can die from this shit. Bestest of luck man :/
Happened to me around this time two years ago. Next thing I knew I was sitting in  a chair in the college's nurse's office. Apparently I was walking around speaking gibberish.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on January 08, 2015, 02:01:34 PM
To Lancelot: Sir Gawain called you once "uptight". Is there truth to his statement?
Lancelot: Going by this "Urban Dictionary" Forest showed me, to be uptight is to be unable to relax, to have my "panties in a twist", or to walk around as though a tree branch had been inserted into my rectum. How crude. Beyond the obvious facts that I do not store wood within my rear, nor do I wear female undergarments, I suppose the first portion of the definition is not inaccurate. Adjusting to this new society is an endless task, and sometimes Saber can be... moody.
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This needs to become a drabble.  Forest showing Lancelot the internet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 09, 2015, 04:20:58 AM
Elf, apparently it is also Saber's turn, according to Dan.

Edit: Elf, for your Saber post. Silver is not viable, it is literally inside of Mia. Mia has no sword that anyone can tell, it is just a minor thing but don't forget that.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: MissingMandible on January 09, 2015, 04:47:50 AM
So, has both the GM's looked over the new character sheets?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on January 09, 2015, 01:29:12 PM
Edit: Elf, for your Saber post. Silver is not viable, it is literally inside of Mia. Mia has no sword that anyone can tell, it is just a minor thing but don't forget that.

I'm going to counter that with Saber's instinct.  She doesn't know what Mia's packing, but she senses that Mia's armed with something dangerous.

Also, I should do character approvals tonight.

Even though I'm still tilting my head at the fact that Fast Wheels now knows Martial Arts.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on January 09, 2015, 02:22:38 PM
I'm going to counter that with Saber's instinct.  She doesn't know what Mia's packing, but she senses that Mia's armed with something dangerous.

Also, I should do character approvals tonight.

Even though I'm still tilting my head at the fact that Fast Wheels now knows Martial Arts.

Instinct is only for combat situations.


Instinct: A


Instinct is the ability to instantly identify “the best personal course of action” during combat. Because this skill allows for the prediction of trajectory, it is possible to avoid attacks from firearms. At rank A, it is essentially in the realm of precognition. Through this ability, it is possible to negate the penalties inflicted by visual and auditory interference to a certain extent.
Being able to discern Cú Chulainn’s ultimate technique certainly reflects her skills, but having exceptional Instinct also helped her immensely.

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on January 09, 2015, 03:16:28 PM
Instinct is only for combat situations.


Instinct: A


Instinct is the ability to instantly identify “the best personal course of action” during combat. Because this skill allows for the prediction of trajectory, it is possible to avoid attacks from firearms. At rank A, it is essentially in the realm of precognition. Through this ability, it is possible to negate the penalties inflicted by visual and auditory interference to a certain extent.
Being able to discern Cú Chulainn’s ultimate technique certainly reflects her skills, but having exceptional Instinct also helped her immensely.

In the case of an ambush, when does the combat actually start then, going by Instinct.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 09, 2015, 03:58:59 PM
Well, looking back at how Saber was able to sense Rider's ambush during Fate in time to counter it, I think it activates whenever there is a situation where she or her Master could end up dead, if she's nearby in the case of the latter.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 09, 2015, 04:14:31 PM
As pointed out Instinct is only for combat. If Mia made moves to attack Saber I would be fine with her anticipating some kind of weapon. And I will make it very clear when she brings it out that it should rub people the wrong way.

But that is not the case. Instead you are having Saber just know Mia has a weapon despite there being no sign of it what so ever. And if feels a bit cheap.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 09, 2015, 06:32:44 PM
Yeah, what you're doing here seems more like Gil's "All Seeing Eye" than Saber's instinct. Her instinct allows her to anticipate attacks and know what her opponent is going to do, it doesn't allow her to magically detect things like weapons. Even in battle it doesn't do that, it just gives her a supernatural sense of how to act to get the best possible outcome.

For example, even in battle, Saber wouldn't know what the enemy's weapon was. She'd just know "I need to do this to prevent it harming me". And, even that is not perfect, as Caster's use of Rule Breaker demonstrates.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 09, 2015, 09:36:26 PM
I still have no idea how Caster is even able to Rule Breaker stab Saber at all in any scenario of the VN. It makes no bloody sense.

Added to the list of things fixed/improved by the UBW anime.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: MissingMandible on January 10, 2015, 06:37:30 AM
For refference, Mathew Blackburn's Valkyrie crashed in the park and everyone else in it are dead. I didn't describe where it landed because, well, Blackburn had no way to actually take note of his surroundings
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 14, 2015, 03:35:05 AM
Beacuse of reasons I can't post today. At the earliest I will be able to is tomorrow night.

Sorry for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 14, 2015, 09:08:05 PM
Just waiting for YOLF to post with Tar before I post. Unless Tar's content with just standing there listening in, in which case I'll try and post something asap. :P
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 16, 2015, 01:49:47 AM
I am incredibly sick and won't be able to post tonight.

Having enough trouble getting out of bed to make this post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 16, 2015, 02:52:46 AM
Here's to hoping you get better soon Knick.

Just waiting for YOLF to post with Tar before I post. Unless Tar's content with just standing there listening in, in which case I'll try and post something asap. :P

You can post if you want by the way. Tar was more waiting for the discussion to settle before talking to Saber.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 16, 2015, 10:05:15 AM
Gotcha. :) I have a dental appointment this morning, so I might not post until this evening, but I'll go ahead and go next.

Also ouch. :( Get better soon Knick! Don't push yourself too hard until you're feeling well enough to leave bed. Also make sure to drink plenty of fluids.

...Also, in terms of Nazi hunting, I'll need a roll call. ^^" My brain's been effectively shot for the past few days, so a refresher on who's all in so it's easier to keep track of everybody would be really helpful. I think YOLF, Umbra, Knick, and Franco are all in, but I'm pretty sure there's one or two people I'm forgetting.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on January 16, 2015, 01:04:24 PM
Damn, Than'Sanel actually could've canceled out some of the damage the Ascended's dropped weapon did to Sarse.
...it was Game Night last night, though, so... <///<
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 16, 2015, 01:51:44 PM
Gotcha. :) I have a dental appointment this morning, so I might not post until this evening, but I'll go ahead and go next.

Also ouch. :( Get better soon Knick! Don't push yourself too hard until you're feeling well enough to leave bed. Also make sure to drink plenty of fluids.

...Also, in terms of Nazi hunting, I'll need a roll call. ^^" My brain's been effectively shot for the past few days, so a refresher on who's all in so it's easier to keep track of everybody would be really helpful. I think YOLF, Umbra, Knick, and Franco are all in, but I'm pretty sure there's one or two people I'm forgetting.

Me.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on January 16, 2015, 01:55:19 PM
Me and mandible
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on January 16, 2015, 02:31:42 PM
Puck is leaving the RP for the time being due to school.  So I'm going to Nexus Lancer away until he comes back.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 17, 2015, 02:04:26 AM
Thanks for speaking up guys. :)

...also I might not be posting this evening. I think it's my turn to be sick. Nothing nearly as bad as what Knick is/was going through, but enough that it's hard to concentrate on writing. I'll see if I can pull it off regardless, but I can't make any promises for sure.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 18, 2015, 08:50:29 AM
Hey Knick, real important question here about your post. What kind of drink did you give Kayneth?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 18, 2015, 09:31:24 AM
Bleh, I miscalculated I think. I'll try posting this evening, sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 18, 2015, 05:06:58 PM
Apologies, but I won't be able to access Skype until further notice. To compensate, I'll be sending PMs to those whom it concerns when I make my posts. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 18, 2015, 05:38:37 PM
Alright. Hopefully that stuff gets fixed up soon.

Also, posted finally! That's one step closer to moving on to Day 2 for good.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 18, 2015, 07:12:55 PM
Hey Knick, real important question here about your post. What kind of drink did you give Kayneth?

Brandy
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 19, 2015, 04:11:58 AM
A question for Kaze and Names, mind if I just skip to the apartment? I mean, there is not much to talk about until then.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on January 19, 2015, 03:43:37 PM
Sure.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 20, 2015, 01:50:58 AM
I might introduce someone who is from 769 in Nasuverse, but is not actually a Heroic Spirit even if he would become one if he did not disappear in mysterious circumstances.

Also, Elf's turn with the Foursome.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 20, 2015, 04:16:30 AM
There sure are a lot of characters from different universes. What would people think of adding a tag to character sheets listing what series they are from?

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 20, 2015, 04:47:55 AM
A lot busier then I thought I would be. Will do posts tomarrow.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: MissingMandible on January 20, 2015, 05:07:23 AM
There sure are a lot of characters from different universes. What would people think of adding a tag to character sheets listing what series they are from?
And what of original characters?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on January 20, 2015, 05:48:33 AM
Put (OC) where you would normally put rhe universe, optionally noting if your ocs come from a common universe, ala Knick's cast-Rebeca.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 20, 2015, 06:11:04 AM
Exactly, it's really more of a common courtesy thing so that people at least can have a general clue about the characters they will be dealing with.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 20, 2015, 11:48:46 AM
My both characters are from New World of Darkness.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 20, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
Sorry to derail, but whose turn is it in the situation at Forest's Compound anyway?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 20, 2015, 01:26:23 PM

Butler (OC)
Maximillian Achterberg (World Of Darkess - Vampire The Requiem)
Mr. Tar (World Of Darkness - Demon The Descent)
Sarse (In Nomine)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on January 20, 2015, 02:34:46 PM
Forest (The Law Unto Herself Chronicles (http://www.jukepop.com/home/read/533))
Saber (Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero)
Abigail Summers (The Law Unto Herself Chronicles (http://www.jukepop.com/home/read/533))

Hopefully I'll get a chance to post tonight.  Last night . . . wasn't a good night.  Those who were on the chat should know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 20, 2015, 02:52:05 PM
Old Man Henderson (Trail of Cthulu)
Castus Grendel (Warhammer 40K)
Guts (Berserk)
Adjutor Xarrest (OC)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on January 20, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
Sakura matou(nasuverse)
Faust(nasuverse OC)
Noel Vermillion(Blazblue;Chrono Phantasma version)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on January 20, 2015, 03:31:11 PM
Wiseman (Baten Kaitos)
Caedia (Dragon's Dogma)
Ann (OC)
David (OC)
PARIAH (Prototype)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on January 20, 2015, 06:55:31 PM
Mine are all OCs.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on January 20, 2015, 08:07:34 PM
Than'Sanel (Magic: the Gathering OC)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 20, 2015, 08:40:58 PM
Grenth (GW Grenth Expy, OC)
Crest (OC)
Mia (OC)
Rebeca (OC)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on January 20, 2015, 09:42:46 PM
Shirou (Fate/Stay Night)
Lancelot (Fate/Zero)
Anatu (Nasuverse OC)
Akiholarme (Skyrim)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 21, 2015, 03:03:27 AM
Ok, Rebeca lead them to her apartment. Sorry about taking so long.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: MissingMandible on January 21, 2015, 03:50:02 AM
Elyssa (OC)

Corporal Mathew Blackburn (Warhammer 40k, OC Imperial Guard Infantry Regiment)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 21, 2015, 06:38:23 AM
I appreciate putting them here, but you should also do a quick update in the profiles as well so in a month when this is gone we will still have the info.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 21, 2015, 09:39:00 AM
Eh, people can always backlog, it's not as if it's some huge thread.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 21, 2015, 03:08:53 PM
Might I remind you that the 1.0 OOC thread came out to 492 pages.

How? I don't know.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 21, 2015, 03:41:26 PM
Literally powerlevels.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 21, 2015, 03:55:03 PM
I get the feeling I'm going to regret asking this, but what ungodly level of powerlevel tantrums could bloat an OOC thread that much?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 21, 2015, 04:25:34 PM
Less "ungodly levels of power", and more "MY CHARACTER SHOULD COME OUT ON TOP" "NO, MINE SHOULD".

Also "MY CHARACTER'S IN THE RIGHT" "YOU MAKE NO SENSE".
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 21, 2015, 04:35:23 PM
That about sums it up really. And most all of it revolved around a certain personage that thankfully isn't participating in 3.0.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 21, 2015, 04:59:53 PM
Didn't Lantz drop out midway through 2.0: OP Arms Race?

Oh the irony.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 21, 2015, 05:31:39 PM
Not even midway. Pretty much at the very start.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on January 21, 2015, 05:43:04 PM
Forest (The Law Unto Herself Chronicles (http://www.jukepop.com/home/read/533))
Saber (Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero)
Abigail Summers (The Law Unto Herself Chronicles (http://www.jukepop.com/home/read/533))

Hopefully I'll get a chance to post tonight.  Last night . . . wasn't a good night.  Those who were on the chat should know what I'm talking about.

What happened last night?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 21, 2015, 05:43:54 PM
Not even midway. Pretty much at the very start.

Wut? Okay, time to read the 2.0 OOC.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 21, 2015, 06:34:41 PM
Yeah, if you have time to spare, that is.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on January 21, 2015, 07:44:51 PM
Panda, Neo reply has been up for days. Please reply.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 21, 2015, 08:21:23 PM
Sorry!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 21, 2015, 08:29:43 PM
Day 2 started?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 21, 2015, 08:37:55 PM
It's not clear. We never specified a time of day, and it's possible Sakura could go back to bed after this is done.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on January 21, 2015, 09:13:02 PM
I think I should have been the one to say that, but yeah.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 21, 2015, 09:27:58 PM
Guts posted, Ivan.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 21, 2015, 10:35:44 PM
I will probably do one more Kayneth post and then I'll be ready for the next day.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on January 22, 2015, 06:51:03 AM
Posted.

Got too elaborate, I guess.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 22, 2015, 06:53:22 AM
Alright Ganesh, I was waiting to see if you were gonna fix skype anytime soon but that doesn't look like it's gonna happen so I'll have the discussion here.

I was wondering how you guy, Adjutor was able to see through all the dust in the room?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 22, 2015, 02:12:12 PM
He can see Kayneth's Circuits, which I'm assuming are active at this point. Unless the prana in the air is too dense for that.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 22, 2015, 07:59:14 PM
Just as a note Mil, you might want to have Kayneth actually saying something as he leaves. Cause you know, I need something to go on.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 22, 2015, 08:13:18 PM
Sure just give me some time.

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 22, 2015, 08:52:52 PM
Probably opening the floodgates of doom here, but is there any chance of the char limit being bumped up?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 22, 2015, 09:17:08 PM
Please no.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 22, 2015, 09:41:32 PM
Well, we've learned from the horrors of 2.0, right?

As in, the rampant insanity that happened there shouldn't happen again now that we know better, right?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 22, 2015, 10:55:37 PM
There you go Knick, updated the Kayneth post a bit for you.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 23, 2015, 08:25:25 AM
Alright just for reference I'll pm a few people the actual bubble that Kayneth is in that way I can't cheat.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on January 23, 2015, 10:57:40 AM
Posted for Neo, waiting for Guts.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on January 23, 2015, 03:49:16 PM
Milbunk wanted me to let people know where he told me Fast Wheels was hiding.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 23, 2015, 03:55:05 PM
Yeah, he PM'd me too.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 23, 2015, 05:41:45 PM
Something I didn't think of while explaining the whole Nazi Raid thing. They won't be meeting at his building. They'll be meeting at a different location. Probably some hideaway building or something like that. I'll just dismiss Lorenzo as forgetting the location or misunderstanding and have the secretary redirect him.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 23, 2015, 05:50:20 PM
When were invites to the Nazi Raid sent out, anyway?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 23, 2015, 06:30:54 PM
Oh, then I guess Crest can't do it? Cause he has literally just arrived and has been wandering all day completely lost. No chance from him to learn about it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 23, 2015, 07:11:35 PM
Nah, there's probably a way for him to still find out for it to still make sense.

...to be honest, Franco's kinda jumping the gun here. Majorly. Because I kinda wanted to, once I had some set up done with Tom, just jump to everyone being there to avoid stuff like this happening. That and save time. Because I wanted the time the invites were sent out to remain ambiguous so there weren't time restraints so it'd be easier for people to meet up and not have to worry about exactly this sort of problem.

(Basically, it's generally better to let even your pseudo-GM have the first move/say so they have an easier time with set up. Having a character move before the GM can even do any set up makes things harder on them)

EDIT: Thinking about it a lot, Franco, do you mind removing that Lorenzo post? It honestly puts a big huge wrench in the works, in that it both puts a big old timestamp on when things are without my say and also assumes they're going to meet at Tom's building (which they wouldn't, because that could flag them as working for Tom. Smarter to meet someplace with no direct connection to Tom's company).

There's a reason the GM always goes first when a group has an RP session. I know you meant well, but it does make it harder on both me and the other players, so if you could do that, I'd appreciate it.

As for that meeting time, in terms of IC stuff, is there a time of day that would work best for everyone in that regard? As in afternoon, evening, etc? Things would still be ambiguous beyond that for ease of people getting together reasons, but that would maybe help with the problem Knick was going to potentially have.

For convenience sake, I'll say the building is just some random rundown place that's easy enough for everyone to access that would also be guaranteed to not have any form of surveillance or bugs from the Nazi guys. Again, to make things easier on everyone, hopefully.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on January 23, 2015, 08:07:47 PM
Nope, don't mind. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 23, 2015, 08:17:28 PM
It's okay, now you know. Now this gives me a chance to get a bit of feedback on what time IC people would like in terms of meetup/starting before I make that first post with Tom and kick things off.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 23, 2015, 08:30:15 PM
Is it okay already to post morning IC posts?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on January 24, 2015, 05:48:00 AM
And posted.

Haha, brings back memories of my own whiting-out myself.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 24, 2015, 03:26:49 PM
@Alice: I mean, Max is a vampire, which means it would be more convenient for him to meet after sunset. Mind you, he can stay up during the day, just... can't catch any sunlight.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on January 24, 2015, 03:52:18 PM
So trench coat, mask, and large umbrella?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 24, 2015, 03:57:40 PM
That'll probably protect him for like 10 minutes tops. Which is about the same amount of time until he starts getting burns. Not to mention the risk of frenzy because of sunlight.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on January 24, 2015, 04:28:36 PM
What would he have to wear for long term protection? Or rather, longer term.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 24, 2015, 05:22:09 PM
Well, I repeat my question about morning posts since I'm bored. And my post in Colosseum has not been replied to yet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 24, 2015, 05:35:11 PM
After sunset it is- honestly I was thinking about that time anyway since nighttime makes any covert-ops stuff easier, plus it gives time for everyone to have heard of the job and take care of anything they need to take care of first. So now we got a time and place. :3 Pretty much all that needs to happen now is a confirmation Day 2 has started for sure and whether the Nazi Hunt people just want to skip to evening if they want to start right away.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 24, 2015, 10:05:06 PM
Well, I repeat my question about morning posts since I'm bored. And my post in Colosseum has not been replied to yet.

Sorry, will post today

Real life sucks =/
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 24, 2015, 10:14:19 PM
IRL stuff takes priority, take your time. :) Hope stuff improves for you soon.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 25, 2015, 08:11:09 AM
Sorry for the double post, even if it's been awhile now since that last one.

I have a new sheet up. If there's any issues with it, please let me know. ...Also apologies for the crappy art, I'm still learning.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 25, 2015, 01:09:29 PM
Day 2 for Mordred, as I agreed with Elf.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 25, 2015, 03:51:43 PM
Those Nexus Elites seem a tad broken

I mostly question the Superhuman stats
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on January 25, 2015, 04:40:20 PM
There probably won't be many with straight superhuman, but it represents anyone who's really strong, I think.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 25, 2015, 04:42:54 PM
Mebbe.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 25, 2015, 05:26:49 PM
I should try one day making mooks/NPCs, maybe if sheets of my characters justify that at one point to have underlings/associates/contacts.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 25, 2015, 05:37:01 PM
There probably won't be many with straight superhuman, but it represents anyone who's really strong, I think.

Superhuman is like, upper servant level.

So I say it is a bit much.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on January 25, 2015, 06:12:15 PM
Maybe one or two? But then they should be specific named npcs, so I get your point.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 26, 2015, 07:50:45 AM
I think it is also safe to say that Kayneth and Grenth are also on Day 2.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on January 26, 2015, 12:03:53 PM
Ahh, you're right. I was thinking about their total power when boosted by magitech. I'll take the base stats down a level.

EDIT: Made sure to emphasize how uncommon these guys are.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 26, 2015, 02:04:00 PM
So, at this point, who's actually on Day 2 and who's still on Night 1?

Also, Mil, was there anything you needed cleared up for the Colosseum post? Or have you just been busy?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 26, 2015, 02:20:40 PM
Just a question.

What the public generally knows about Saber?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on January 26, 2015, 03:36:48 PM
Noel and Co are explicitly on day 2, I know mordred is on day 2, and Team Sakura may or may not be on day 2.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on January 27, 2015, 06:14:29 PM
Well, Ann is sleeping while Than'Sanel is doing what he can to keep a section of the mall's first floor safe from the other floors, while Sarse makes certain everyone is out.
Ann went from lewd to destructive to lazy: such a shining personality. Wouldn't have her any way, since that'd be OOC. :p
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on January 28, 2015, 05:41:22 AM
Ok it was hard to keep track of the skype discussion while on the phone at work, so it's probably best to bring the discussion about the Enforcer's aircraft carrier here.

I only saw complaints from Knick and Panda, and I'm pretty sure Panda's issue has been cleared up now, but since Knick said more people than just him had issues it would be best for them to be posted here to make sure I see them. I really like aircraft carrier idea but if a lot of you guys don't I'll trim the air superiority down.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on January 28, 2015, 12:34:17 PM
Just a question.

What the public generally knows about Saber?

That she's the monster hunting cop with the sword that shoots laser beams and eats a lot.

She also hangs out with Law Unto Herself too, and is generally the police's liaison if they need Forest.

And she may or may not have a crazy dude who wears black armor living with her.

Also I'm going to be MIA for a few days due to Convention.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 28, 2015, 01:33:19 PM
That's exactly what I needed to know, thank you :)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 28, 2015, 01:50:03 PM
Ok it was hard to keep track of the skype discussion while on the phone at work, so it's probably best to bring the discussion about the Enforcer's aircraft carrier here.

I only saw complaints from Knick and Panda, and I'm pretty sure Panda's issue has been cleared up now, but since Knick said more people than just him had issues it would be best for them to be posted here to make sure I see them. I really like aircraft carrier idea but if a lot of you guys don't I'll trim the air superiority down.

It seems a bit ridiculous, honestly. I don't like the idea of the Enforcers being so overwhelmingly powerful, it makes it basically pointless to have good-guy characters in the Nexus, since any serious issues will already be dealt with anyway. From what you're coming up with, the Nexus sounds like it is actually safer than the standard Nasuverse is....

I'm also not remotely clear why there are Vampires and Werewolves still roaming the Nexus so freely when law enforcement groups have an aircraft carrier and all this other stuff. They should be able to bomb them to oblivion without much difficulty, and at very least drive them into hiding.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 28, 2015, 02:02:56 PM
And how they maintain a fucking aircraft carrier? Only major powers can afford a one to begin with.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 28, 2015, 02:04:45 PM
It seems a bit ridiculous, honestly. I don't like the idea of the Enforcers being so overwhelmingly powerful, it makes it basically pointless to have good-guy characters in the Nexus, since any serious issues will already be dealt with anyway. From what you're coming up with, the Nexus sounds like it is actually safer than the standard Nasuverse is....

I'm also not remotely clear why there are Vampires and Werewolves still roaming the Nexus so freely when law enforcement groups have an aircraft carrier and all this other stuff. They should be able to bomb them to oblivion without much difficulty, and at very least drive them into hiding.

Collateral damage? I mean, it's not like the vampires and werewolves are all neatly filed into little Vampire/Werewolf Ghettos for any interested groups to level. They're everywhere, so bombing them into oblivion to a truly meaningful degree is likely out of the question. And that's ignoring the logistics of arming all the aircraft with anti-Vampire/Werewolf armaments. That said, werewolves and vampires are hardly the only hostile supernaturals, and the carrier is still a fuck-mothering carrier. Although with the Nexus constantly pulling in more supernaturals...

It's all a giant mess, really.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 28, 2015, 03:25:54 PM
And how they maintain a fucking aircraft carrier? Only major powers can afford a one to begin with.

Yeah, exactly. To run an aircraft carrier requires an organised and powerful military force. It's not something a bunch of amateurs can do. If they have an aircraft carrier, they are most certainly part of the government of the Nexus, and it's a rather strong and well-funded government at that. It's simply not consistent with the idea of having a government with only nominal control, or of having a society where there is very little protection from the supernatural.

There's nothing wrong with having groups that go around trying to protect people, but they should generally be under-funded and over-worked, not supremely powerful.

It seems a bit ridiculous, honestly. I don't like the idea of the Enforcers being so overwhelmingly powerful, it makes it basically pointless to have good-guy characters in the Nexus, since any serious issues will already be dealt with anyway. From what you're coming up with, the Nexus sounds like it is actually safer than the standard Nasuverse is....

I'm also not remotely clear why there are Vampires and Werewolves still roaming the Nexus so freely when law enforcement groups have an aircraft carrier and all this other stuff. They should be able to bomb them to oblivion without much difficulty, and at very least drive them into hiding.

Collateral damage? I mean, it's not like the vampires and werewolves are all neatly filed into little Vampire/Werewolf Ghettos for any interested groups to level. They're everywhere, so bombing them into oblivion to a truly meaningful degree is likely out of the question. And that's ignoring the logistics of arming all the aircraft with anti-Vampire/Werewolf armaments. That said, werewolves and vampires are hardly the only hostile supernaturals, and the carrier is still a fuck-mothering carrier. Although with the Nexus constantly pulling in more supernaturals...

It's all a giant mess, really.

Well, sure, they couldn't kill them all, but a) the existence of an aircraft carrier implies they also have a lot of other powerful weaponry (which would allow them to clear out vampire areas), because it is simply absurd to have the ability to build and maintain an aircraft carrier without the ability to produce other advanced weaponry and train a proper, well-funded police force and b) it means that vampires and werewolves have to go into hiding and avoid congregating en masse, especially in areas without civilians. As an example, look at what's happening to ISIS. The US air force can't actually wipe them out entirely, but what it can do is stop them gathering in large numbers. Further, the US is hamstrung by not wanting to send in troops, whereas there is no reason for the Enforcers to have the same issue. Air support is extremely useful to have, even when you're dealing with vampires and werewolves.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 28, 2015, 03:31:07 PM
Just to be sure, what exactly is the problem with the carrier? It it the presence of the aircraft carrier (In which case, we're in the Nexus, it just pulled one in from somewhere), the massive threat that it poses (Can't really argue that), or the idea of the police/enforcers having a fighting chance against some of the stronger supernaturals that aren't explicitly immune to military weaponry?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 28, 2015, 03:35:01 PM
Aircraft carrier already breaks already stretched suspension of disbelief. You cannot handwave it like that.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: MissingMandible on January 28, 2015, 04:00:39 PM
I wouldn't mind so much about an Light Carrier, but a Supercarrier?

The United States only has like ten of them in the entire Navy.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 28, 2015, 05:35:53 PM
Just to be sure, what exactly is the problem with the carrier? It it the presence of the aircraft carrier (In which case, we're in the Nexus, it just pulled one in from somewhere), the massive threat that it poses (Can't really argue that), or the idea of the police/enforcers having a fighting chance against some of the stronger supernaturals that aren't explicitly immune to military weaponry?

All three, frankly. To the first, even if a carrier could just show up in the Nexus out of nowhere, it would be useless, because no-one knows how to actually use it, and there's no reason the government would find it in any case. To the second, yes, that is the biggest issue, because the whole reason the government is the government is precisely because it possesses overwhelming force relative to ordinary citizens (support from the populace also helps somewhat, but it seems unlikely that the average person in the Nexus would be opposed to a government that could help keep the supernatural creatures in check).

To the third, also yes, because the whole point of the setting is that the government can't do very much about the supernatural threat and, indeed, lacks much power at all. There's nothing wrong with giving enforcers the chance to be a threat to supernatural entities, but they can't be enough of a threat to negate the ability of heroic characters to actually make a real difference. And, having an aircraft carrier goes beyond just giving them a "fighting chance", it makes it pretty much impossible to avoid them. Even if you're immune to normal weapons, they can still make your life absolute hell by blowing stuff up.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 28, 2015, 05:54:04 PM
All three, frankly. To the first, even if a carrier could just show up in the Nexus out of nowhere, it would be useless, because no-one knows how to actually use it, and there's no reason the government would find it in any case. To the second, yes, that is the biggest issue, because the whole reason the government is the government is precisely because it possesses overwhelming force relative to ordinary citizens (support from the populace also helps somewhat, but it seems unlikely that the average person in the Nexus would be opposed to a government that could help keep the supernatural creatures in check).

To the third, also yes, because the whole point of the setting is that the government can't do very much about the supernatural threat and, indeed, lacks much power at all. There's nothing wrong with giving enforcers the chance to be a threat to supernatural entities, but they can't be enough of a threat to negate the ability of heroic characters to actually make a real difference. And, having an aircraft carrier goes beyond just giving them a "fighting chance", it makes it pretty much impossible to avoid them. Even if you're immune to normal weapons, they can still make your life absolute hell by blowing stuff up.

You got me on the first and second points, but to the third, I have one counter argument to offer.

Couldn't Dan just make the Enforcers a PMC or something? Or would that just make the problem worse?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 28, 2015, 05:56:53 PM
Also I'm going to be MIA for a few days due to Convention.

Aww. Guess Mia is not going to be on Day 2 for a bit.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 28, 2015, 07:07:36 PM
Couldn't he just scrap the carrier?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 28, 2015, 07:43:21 PM
All three, frankly. To the first, even if a carrier could just show up in the Nexus out of nowhere, it would be useless, because no-one knows how to actually use it, and there's no reason the government would find it in any case. To the second, yes, that is the biggest issue, because the whole reason the government is the government is precisely because it possesses overwhelming force relative to ordinary citizens (support from the populace also helps somewhat, but it seems unlikely that the average person in the Nexus would be opposed to a government that could help keep the supernatural creatures in check).

To the third, also yes, because the whole point of the setting is that the government can't do very much about the supernatural threat and, indeed, lacks much power at all. There's nothing wrong with giving enforcers the chance to be a threat to supernatural entities, but they can't be enough of a threat to negate the ability of heroic characters to actually make a real difference. And, having an aircraft carrier goes beyond just giving them a "fighting chance", it makes it pretty much impossible to avoid them. Even if you're immune to normal weapons, they can still make your life absolute hell by blowing stuff up.

You got me on the first and second points, but to the third, I have one counter argument to offer.

Couldn't Dan just make the Enforcers a PMC or something? Or would that just make the problem worse?

What do you mean, PMC?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 28, 2015, 08:06:02 PM
Private Military Contractors.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 28, 2015, 08:15:19 PM
I may have overdone it slightly in the NPC thread.

It was a thought exercise.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 28, 2015, 08:16:07 PM
Private Military Contractors.

Ah, right....

Yeah, that really doesn't make sense. If such a group wasn't part of the government from the outset, it would pretty quickly become the government, because it has such overwhelming force, and the government lacks the funds to really pay them.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 28, 2015, 08:18:30 PM
Ah, right....

Yeah, that really doesn't make sense. If such a group wasn't part of the government from the outset, it would pretty quickly become the government, because it has such overwhelming force, and the government lacks the funds to really pay them.

Or they could be the guys who only get called in when the shit really and truly hits the fan. Precisely because the government lacks the funds to pay them unless they really need them.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 28, 2015, 08:29:53 PM
No Private Military Contract could afford a supercarrier ever, or any combat ship.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on January 28, 2015, 08:55:38 PM
I may have overdone it slightly in the NPC thread.

It was a thought exercise.

why would you post an NPC no one could ever use
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 28, 2015, 09:15:06 PM
Because of boredom?

BTW, soon Mordred will strike a new Contract. It's a one dot clause, basically allows her to walk on surfaces that would not support her weight normally and decrease damage from falling from buildings (in NWoD terms it reduces that damage from lethal to bashing, but don't expect her surviving a fall from skyscraper that way).

I wanted to announce it in advance, I still will need to roleplay that.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 28, 2015, 09:25:00 PM
No Private Military Contract could afford a supercarrier ever, or any combat ship.

Personal curiosity here, but what kind of resources would you need to be able to maintain one? I can guess at the basic ones (fuel, armaments, etc), but...okay I guess I'm asking how much of what you'd need to support one.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 28, 2015, 09:39:35 PM
Whole shipyard to service the thing, thousands of staff to serve on the carrier (they are sea cities in essence) and access to nuclear fuel, among many things.

No wonder only select few countries can maintain even a one, and USA crews merely 10 of them.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on January 28, 2015, 09:45:54 PM
Because of boredom?

that would be the explanation for making the sheet
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 28, 2015, 09:51:45 PM
Yeah, Yolf has more time than me and other people, curse his luck.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 28, 2015, 09:52:10 PM
If anyone wants to start interacting with Kayneth create some sort of magical disturbance near Grenth's house and I can have him detect it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on January 28, 2015, 10:06:46 PM
Day 2 is starting.

You can literally just have Kayneth leave to try and find a real place to stay. And have him run into something.

I mean, there are a shit ton of magical anomalies in this city cause Nexus. The city itself is an anomaly.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on January 28, 2015, 10:15:33 PM
Personal curiosity here, but what kind of resources would you need to be able to maintain one? I can guess at the basic ones (fuel, armaments, etc), but...okay I guess I'm asking how much of what you'd need to support one.

These carriers actually run on nuclear reactors and steam turbines, so they can actually go for around 2 decades without needing a "refuel", or replacement reactors. Rearming the plane's ordinance after it's been expended is also pretty much impossible. Food and water for the crew is an obvious requirement, but I'm not counting that as an issue since it apparently isn't for the rest of the Nexus even though it probably should be.

Basing the argument on "There's no way they could afford a carrier" is really just semantics though because when it comes down to it the Nexus economy is 100% bullshit. If your issue is that having that many planes is just too OP even with the limits imposed by rules of engagement, that's another matter entirely.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on January 28, 2015, 10:35:49 PM
I think trying to have an aircraft carrier is in the same vein as summoning Gilgamesh or Karna in order to have a city wrecking fight.

Is it possible? Sure.

But should you do it? No I don't think it'd be a good idea, despite this being a freeform RP everything needs to have its limits and I think a line should be drawn here.

Also let me modify my previous Kayneth question, does anyone want to have Kayneth join their party?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 28, 2015, 10:51:32 PM
About that new Contract, I'm accused of that happening too soon, so I assure that while I plan to develop my character over time into more capable, it will take progressively more time to develop more Contracts, so so forging such a minor Contract today does not mean I will spam a new one every day.

I will wait for the approval, possibly in meantime develop the post to put more effort into researching how to forge the Contract or make it more difficult to do so.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 28, 2015, 11:16:29 PM
Ah, right....

Yeah, that really doesn't make sense. If such a group wasn't part of the government from the outset, it would pretty quickly become the government, because it has such overwhelming force, and the government lacks the funds to really pay them.

Or they could be the guys who only get called in when the shit really and truly hits the fan. Precisely because the government lacks the funds to pay them unless they really need them.

Except that they have more firepower than literally the entire rest of the Nexus at this point. If they're amoral enough to just sit around on a aircraft carrier instead of fighting without pay, then I would expect them to make a grab for power and take control of the Nexus outright. Most people wouldn't even mind if it means that they get more protection from Supernatural threats.

Personal curiosity here, but what kind of resources would you need to be able to maintain one? I can guess at the basic ones (fuel, armaments, etc), but...okay I guess I'm asking how much of what you'd need to support one.

These carriers actually run on nuclear reactors and steam turbines, so they can actually go for around 2 decades without needing a "refuel", or replacement reactors. Rearming the plane's ordinance after it's been expended is also pretty much impossible. Food and water for the crew is an obvious requirement, but I'm not counting that as an issue since it apparently isn't for the rest of the Nexus even though it probably should be.

Fuel isn't the problem here. The problem is that aircraft carriers are fucking complicated and require constant skilled maintenance to continue to run, not to mention a skilled crew to operate them. These guys do not have the skills to do that. It's like giving a 15th century person a computer without any instructions and expecting them to be able to actually use it.

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Basing the argument on "There's no way they could afford a carrier" is really just semantics though because when it comes down to it the Nexus economy is 100% bullshit. If your issue is that having that many planes is just too OP even with the limits imposed by rules of engagement, that's another matter entirely.

Well, the "they can't afford" it argument is only a small part of the issue. It's not even cost, in any case, it's maintenance, spare parts and crew. Plus, it is way too OP, and any group that had possession of such a thing in the Nexus would realistically end up running the Nexus.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 28, 2015, 11:21:03 PM
Edited the post, it will be more of a lengthy quest to strike a one.

Also, Dan, Nexus is a big city, but no city-state and no organisation independent from a major power can maintain a carrier. It's basically breaking the suspension of disbelief too hard.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on January 28, 2015, 11:36:50 PM
Even with someone with a fuckton of money like Tom who's building up a military level security detail would struggle with it I would think. And that's someone that could have access to both the funds and personnel needed. So that's probably something to consider.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 28, 2015, 11:38:52 PM
Even with someone with a fuckton of money like Tom who's building up a military level security detail would struggle with it I would think. And that's someone that could have access to both the funds and personnel needed. So that's probably something to consider.

Yeah, I think even Bill Gates would struggle to pay the maintenance and running costs for an Aircraft Carrier. And, as I said, anyone who had such a thing would be de facto in charge of the Nexus anyway, simply because no-one could stand up to them.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 29, 2015, 04:53:25 PM
Ah, right....

Yeah, that really doesn't make sense. If such a group wasn't part of the government from the outset, it would pretty quickly become the government, because it has such overwhelming force, and the government lacks the funds to really pay them.

Or they could be the guys who only get called in when the shit really and truly hits the fan. Precisely because the government lacks the funds to pay them unless they really need them.

Except that they have more firepower than literally the entire rest of the Nexus at this point. If they're amoral enough to just sit around on a aircraft carrier instead of fighting without pay, then I would expect them to make a grab for power and take control of the Nexus outright. Most people wouldn't even mind if it means that they get more protection from Supernatural threats.


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Basing the argument on "There's no way they could afford a carrier" is really just semantics though because when it comes down to it the Nexus economy is 100% bullshit. If your issue is that having that many planes is just too OP even with the limits imposed by rules of engagement, that's another matter entirely.

Well, the "they can't afford" it argument is only a small part of the issue. It's not even cost, in any case, it's maintenance, spare parts and crew. Plus, it is way too OP, and any group that had possession of such a thing in the Nexus would realistically end up running the Nexus.

Admittedly, this might be an interesting twist to the RP. Instead of worrying about the random supernatural chaos, we have to worry about an authoritarian order with the power to back it up.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 29, 2015, 06:52:26 PM
Ah, right....

Yeah, that really doesn't make sense. If such a group wasn't part of the government from the outset, it would pretty quickly become the government, because it has such overwhelming force, and the government lacks the funds to really pay them.

Or they could be the guys who only get called in when the shit really and truly hits the fan. Precisely because the government lacks the funds to pay them unless they really need them.

Except that they have more firepower than literally the entire rest of the Nexus at this point. If they're amoral enough to just sit around on a aircraft carrier instead of fighting without pay, then I would expect them to make a grab for power and take control of the Nexus outright. Most people wouldn't even mind if it means that they get more protection from Supernatural threats.


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Basing the argument on "There's no way they could afford a carrier" is really just semantics though because when it comes down to it the Nexus economy is 100% bullshit. If your issue is that having that many planes is just too OP even with the limits imposed by rules of engagement, that's another matter entirely.

Well, the "they can't afford" it argument is only a small part of the issue. It's not even cost, in any case, it's maintenance, spare parts and crew. Plus, it is way too OP, and any group that had possession of such a thing in the Nexus would realistically end up running the Nexus.

Admittedly, this might be an interesting twist to the RP. Instead of worrying about the random supernatural chaos, we have to worry about an authoritarian order with the power to back it up.

It could be, yes, although Rider could probably take it down fairly quickly due to being a spiritual being and, thus, not vulnerable to conventional weapons. Still, it would change the focus of the RP quite a bit.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on January 29, 2015, 06:58:52 PM
Please stop with the enormous quote chains, delete some of the older stuff.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 30, 2015, 02:18:22 AM
Going to bed, I will reply to Bdoom's post when I'm up again.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on January 30, 2015, 12:25:53 PM
It could be, yes, although Rider could probably take it down fairly quickly due to being a spiritual being and, thus, not vulnerable to conventional weapons. Still, it would change the focus of the RP quite a bit.
I doubt denizens of the Nexus with access to such a thing wouldn't have measures against supernatural enemies.
inb4 GHOST BUSTERS
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 30, 2015, 12:52:21 PM
Etheric Rounds. VALKYRIE branch that I'm bringing in possesses them. Doubt they would take down a Servant, unless it was enough dakka. Maybe be after they researched enough to create a scaled up version
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 30, 2015, 04:08:04 PM
It could be, yes, although Rider could probably take it down fairly quickly due to being a spiritual being and, thus, not vulnerable to conventional weapons. Still, it would change the focus of the RP quite a bit.
I doubt denizens of the Nexus with access to such a thing wouldn't have measures against supernatural enemies.
inb4 GHOST BUSTERS

Most supernatural enemies (notably, vampires and werewolves) are susceptible to either standard weapons or reasonable alterations to them (e.g. silver bullets), though. Rider is not, and creating a weapon that can harm her requires the use of magic. Such weapons are likely to be considerably more difficult to produce than anti-vampire or anti-werewolf weapons would be.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 30, 2015, 04:18:14 PM
Well, Etheric Rounds have a spiritual rank, but they are still bullets courtesy to NWoD's American science. Though a scaled up version would be more likely to harm a Servant.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on January 30, 2015, 04:22:12 PM
Well, Etheric Rounds have a spiritual rank, but they are still bullets courtesy to NWoD's American science. Though a scaled up version would be more likely to harm a Servant.

Yeah, sure, but they're not connected to the group that would supposedly have the aircraft carrier.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on January 31, 2015, 07:50:04 AM
And I'm outta people to RP with.

I'm free now, who's next?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 31, 2015, 11:59:54 AM
Posted in Velvet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on January 31, 2015, 12:53:51 PM
Yeah, sure, but they're not connected to the group that would supposedly have the aircraft carrier.

Oh right I do need to fix that.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 01, 2015, 12:56:01 AM
From what I gathered Lorenzo and Adjutor are in the bar Mordred entered, so it's franco's and Panda's turn.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on February 01, 2015, 01:00:26 AM
From what I gathered Lorenzo and Adjutor are in the bar Mordred entered, so it's franco's and Panda's turn.

Rider is also in the same bar.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 01, 2015, 01:56:42 AM
None told me before, so I did not have a clue.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on February 01, 2015, 07:13:16 PM
When do you guys think you'll get around to updating the accepted characters sheet?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 01, 2015, 07:17:49 PM
Elf is busy, so she did not have time to even read the sheet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on February 01, 2015, 10:03:37 PM
She's not even going to be back home until this evening. And that's assuming she'll even be up for approving sheets tonight.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on February 02, 2015, 04:34:00 AM
Hey Mil, no using the Mystic Eyes on someone who doesn't consent and no Roa and then I'll approve it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on February 02, 2015, 06:18:55 AM
I'm fine with the consent part but by no Roa do you mean I can't have SHIKI change to Roa or I can't have Roa as a voice in his head period? (Even if I never plan on having him manifest at all anyways.)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on February 02, 2015, 06:38:00 AM
I'm fine with the consent part but by no Roa do you mean I can't have SHIKI change to Roa or I can't have Roa as a voice in his head period? (Even if I never plan on having him manifest at all anyways.)

Roa being a voice in the head is fine, but not manifesting.

And no cheating in magic knowledge either.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 02, 2015, 11:11:23 AM
I added additional bane to Deborah, so given it's only a nerf then it's not a big deal.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on February 02, 2015, 08:05:11 PM
I'll accept the no cheating at magic but is detecting magic alright?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on February 02, 2015, 09:24:04 PM
I mean, can SHIKI do that?

I think elf is trying to say you can't have SHIKI do anything Roa can.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on February 03, 2015, 02:35:11 AM
It would make sense to be a part of his half blood lineage to sense stuff like that.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on February 03, 2015, 02:38:22 AM
Where does it say anything about half bloods detecting magic?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on February 03, 2015, 05:07:04 AM
I don't really recall anything specifically mentioning that they could or could not, it just made sense as an ability for me to add as half-bloods can at least sense inhuman things and it would help make sense for event joining and that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 04, 2015, 11:16:50 AM
You can join events without adding things that are probably a fanon.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on February 04, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Geeze Knick, Mia keeps getting creepier and creepier.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 04, 2015, 04:29:25 PM
Stalk and you will be stalked too. Except that was basically a whim.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on February 04, 2015, 06:20:00 PM
Geeze Knick, Mia keeps getting creepier and creepier.

Yep. :)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 05, 2015, 02:18:02 PM
Again, I'm free, message me if you want to RP with me.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 05, 2015, 08:23:15 PM
Just have one of your chars (Or more than one) go out and about and do things. If other chars join in, great, if not, then you can have your chars stumble on a developing situation or something.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 06, 2015, 04:55:21 AM
Just have one of your chars (Or more than one) go out and about and do things. If other chars join in, great, if not, then you can have your chars stumble on a developing situation or something.

I'm not really too familiar with the current happenings now in Nexus City, so the latter option is out for me right now.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on February 06, 2015, 04:56:02 AM
Read the posts.

Like, literally, that's all you need to do.

Why is that hard.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on February 06, 2015, 05:31:06 AM
Then your guys get to chill in their house alone right now ivan.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 06, 2015, 07:46:19 AM
Read the posts.

Like, literally, that's all you need to do.

Why is that hard.

The same thing why I got fired at a job before they even got to hire me: I'm always disturbed and unfocused.

Also, just give me the context of each interaction so I don't have to backlog harder than a bus crashing on a concrete wall.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 06, 2015, 02:09:26 PM
We are not your servants.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 06, 2015, 02:34:01 PM
We are not your servants.

C'mon, it's a small favor for now, then I'll do it all by myself later on. Please. I'm still confused.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 06, 2015, 03:06:30 PM
They are employed among us who can keep up in spite of their schedules, so I'm not going to bother.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 06, 2015, 03:22:32 PM
Eh, I guess I'll get on it, anyway.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on February 07, 2015, 03:06:09 AM
Unknownhero, please take note of the following: the proper scale for the attributes is explained in the template character sheet provided in this subforum, so please alter your post accordingly.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on February 07, 2015, 03:10:50 AM
And pardon me for the doubleposting - Archer's stats probably leave him at all around Supernatural in physical attributes. There's supposed to be a noticeable gap between Supernatural and Superhuman, and the scale is purposely vague for a reason.

For future reference, servants with higher stats probably have superhuman in the equivalent, and lower stats are equal to supernatural. Only really ridiculous abilities would merit a character having Legendary in anything (though there is probably one Servant or two that qualifies there).

Thanks for such quick response though.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on February 07, 2015, 03:18:45 AM
Unknown hero, HF normal Shirou can't be alive, he just suffered catastrophic and irreparable brain damage by projecting NOT!excalibur. You should try to find a different shirou to play, this one really has no business surviving.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 07, 2015, 03:25:12 AM
Umm, dude bro? Unknown? You have Shirou's strength listed as Servant Rank D, but then it's statted as Superhuman. Superhuman is high-tier Servant (A-B). The rank you're probably looking for is Low/Mid Supernatural. Same for Shirou's agility. And you're missing a stat for his Constitution.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on February 07, 2015, 03:40:39 AM
Basically, Unknown hero, read the rules and the stat guide first. The concept is faulty enough and there's enough wrong with the sheet that it may just be better to scrap the sheet and start over.

Don't be offended by this, as it's less to say you can't join, and more that you should take the time to read up on some stuff first, and then make a more proper sheet. If need be, we can get you in on the skype group and people can help you out more.

One thing I will say though is that you shouldn't be listing servant ranks with letters attached to them with this sheet format, as it undermines the point of this ranking system to an extent. Again, if you need help, you can either ask here in the thread, pm YOLF, who made the current stat system, or IM us on Skype, and we can help you there.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on February 07, 2015, 10:23:05 AM
First posts with Mille. They probably suck given that I made the mistake of writing them when more tired than usual, but at least they're out there now.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on February 08, 2015, 11:32:34 PM
Umbra's Xilar now makes me regret not having Lycodrake Aptera in CE 3.0. XP
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on February 08, 2015, 11:42:20 PM
Literally NPC so really don't think about it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 09, 2015, 02:47:38 AM
Meh, dropping Velvet for 99 % because guys don't bother with waiting for a reply when I'm busy.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on February 10, 2015, 01:19:03 PM
[Monday, February 09, 2015 10:35 PM] Umbra: Sarse is potatoes

:3
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on February 10, 2015, 02:48:52 PM
Forest: Bloody hell, why does everyone thing I'm some sodding monster or something?  And apparently I'm grooming Saber to be my heir?  That's a load of bollocks right there.  If I had a heir, they'd need to be more of a smart ass.  Saber's too bloody proper.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 10, 2015, 03:49:45 PM
Forest: Bloody hell, why does everyone thing I'm some sodding monster or something?  And apparently I'm grooming Saber to be my heir?  That's a load of bollocks right there.  If I had a heir, they'd need to be more of a smart ass.  Saber's too bloody proper.

Looks like Archer may have to watch his back. And maybe start wearing a scarf.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on February 12, 2015, 12:09:00 AM
Turns out I am sick, will not be posting today.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 12, 2015, 12:56:40 AM
Posted my third PC's sheet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 12, 2015, 07:00:44 AM
Still waiting for Nachos.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 12, 2015, 11:15:46 AM
>Gintoki not approved yet

;_;

C'mon, that's literally my shortest sheet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 12, 2015, 12:50:02 PM
Ivan, if you're bored, you can always just toss Neo out into the streets and look around for ongoing situations to take part in. There won't bee much interaction with a drunk guy in a car from passersby.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 12, 2015, 01:56:48 PM
Ivan, if you're bored, you can always just toss Neo out into the streets and look around for ongoing situations to take part in. There won't bee much interaction with a drunk guy in a car from passersby.

I don't really want to take Neo out in the field right now, else he would hog the limelight.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 12, 2015, 02:16:02 PM
Trust us. He won't. We've got at least two events going on for this day in the RP, both of them major events. If Neo somehow manages to hog the limelight, then there is something very, very wrong happening. I mean, seriously, have you been looking at the RP lately?

We've got Suiren fighting Vanguard and Rider. We've got Faust trying to track down Shirou and Rin, which will get interesting soon. Hell, I'm going to be having Adjutor apply for a consultancy with the police, which will involve him having to last for a minute against Saber if he wants to join the sewer expedition. There will be character development, fights, and generally interesting things going on all over the RP. Neo may be able to do something interesting, but there is pretty much no way he can hog the limelight. At all. Operating under the assumption that he can even get any of it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 12, 2015, 03:01:23 PM
I may have Gintoki join something other than sewer expedition, or just have him awake with hangover in an alley. Once he gets approved.

His priority is to find a landlord or landlady anyway, so he does not end up as MADAO living on streets.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 12, 2015, 04:26:27 PM
Trust us. He won't. We've got at least two events going on for this day in the RP, both of them major events. If Neo somehow manages to hog the limelight, then there is something very, very wrong happening. I mean, seriously, have you been looking at the RP lately?

We've got Suiren fighting Vanguard and Rider. We've got Faust trying to track down Shirou and Rin, which will get interesting soon. Hell, I'm going to be having Adjutor apply for a consultancy with the police, which will involve him having to last for a minute against Saber if he wants to join the sewer expedition. There will be character development, fights, and generally interesting things going on all over the RP. Neo may be able to do something interesting, but there is pretty much no way he can hog the limelight. At all. Operating under the assumption that he can even get any of it.

I'm not talking about the limelight of the RP in general here.

I'm talking about the limelight between my three characters, I might never get to appropriately depict the other two characters aside from Neo himself. I mean, I don't wanna just play the same single character in the RP repeatedly when I have two more. I don't want to be pigeon-holed to him, even if his attitude makes for a livelier storyline.

In other words, let's give him a break and let the other two have their stories told.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 12, 2015, 05:03:11 PM
Ivan. You can do this with your other chars. Have them go out and about. Have them encounter other people. I just suggested Neo because having him stay in the Order's Manor all the time after the stuff that happened at the bar and the firefight with the police afterwards wouldn't be the best idea. There were a metric fuckton of witnesses, and I'd think the police can at least access housing records. Besides, Neo doesn't seem the type to stay at home.

I mean, you're kinda shooting yourself in the foot, here. The characters could potentially be interesting (I think) but you haven't had them out and about enough to show us...well...anything, really, about them aside from the fact that Neo is an asshole with no sense of self-preservation.

Honestly, it's less that that you don't get to appropriately depict them and more that you don't really try. I mean, seriously. You put Neo in his car, drunk, when you made your post. How many people are going to go out of their way to try and get the attention of someone who's just sitting in his car? You really are shooting yourself in the foot.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 12, 2015, 05:17:17 PM
Ivan. You can do this with your other chars. Have them go out and about. Have them encounter other people. I just suggested Neo because having him stay in the Order's Manor all the time after the stuff that happened at the bar and the firefight with the police afterwards wouldn't be the best idea. There were a metric fuckton of witnesses, and I'd think the police can at least access housing records. Besides, Neo doesn't seem the type to stay at home.

The thing with the Manor is that it just appeared in the middle of the residential subdivision on an empty lot from its original location in an undisclosed location in Germany. I don't really think that the police would have any housing records on them, especially if all of them got used to the fact that they don't have any valid birth certificates anymore.

And no, Neo does stay at home sometimes, either to browse the 'Net, continue alchemical research or generally be a slacker.

I mean, you're kinda shooting yourself in the foot, here. The characters could potentially be interesting (I think) but you haven't had them out and about enough to show us...well...anything, really, about them aside from the fact that Neo is an asshole with no sense of self-preservation.

Honestly, it's less that that you don't get to appropriately depict them and more that you don't really try. I mean, seriously. You put Neo in his car, drunk, when you made your post. How many people are going to go out of their way to try and get the attention of someone who's just sitting in his car? You really are shooting yourself in the foot.

First of all, it's Rattus, not Neo. Second, Rattus is actually calling the attention of Nachos' character, who is jogging around a part of the city. And third, don't mistake Neo's insane willingness to provoke anyone he meets with lacking a sense of self-preservation, especially when when he thinks provoking people and getting into trouble is fun.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 12, 2015, 05:29:28 PM
My bad on that. But the fact remains that, if you want interactions, you should send your characters out. Looking at what's going on with Rattus and Donkey, you could just send out another one of your chars if you don't feel like waiting for Nachos. I suggested Neo because Yukina doesn't seem like the type to leave the house often unless it's with the others.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 12, 2015, 05:36:11 PM
My bad on that. But the fact remains that, if you want interactions, you should send your characters out. Looking at what's going on with Rattus and Donkey, you could just send out another one of your chars if you don't feel like waiting for Nachos. I suggested Neo because Yukina doesn't seem like the type to leave the house often unless it's with the others.

Well, as I see it right now...
Neo's still tired from the events that happened to him yesterday.
Yukina won't leave home until Rattus comes back.

So far, Rattus is the only one who's free today. I don't really mind waiting for Nachos, since I myself have a lot of side work on my hands right now.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 12, 2015, 06:06:00 PM
Also, you've got something more than slightly wrong about the police being unable to find Neo. The stolen car would have been reported, likely found, and Neo was bleeding all over the place all the way back.

Add in the fact that he took the time to enjoy a joyride, which, in an open-topped car is basically asking someone to be able to ID you, and open-topped cars aren't exactly things people forget about within the course of a single night, especially not ones with such interesting occupants such as Guts and Dragonslayer, to say nothing of Neo.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 12, 2015, 06:15:24 PM
Also, you've got something more than slightly wrong about the police being unable to find Neo. The stolen car would have been reported, likely found, and Neo was bleeding all over the place all the way back.

Add in the fact that he took the time to enjoy a joyride, which, in an open-topped car is basically asking someone to be able to ID you, and open-topped cars aren't exactly things people forget about within the course of a single night, especially not ones with such interesting occupants such as Guts and Dragonslayer, to say nothing of Neo.

Yes, which is why Neo parked the car a couple blocks away from the Manor. He was bleeding, yes, but I could see the blood being soaked up by his clothes, as well as the fact that Neo quickly healed and recovered from his supposedly fatal wounds, which could raise some questions.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 12, 2015, 06:52:41 PM
Well, now it's a question of what the police do when human senses simply aren't cutting it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 12, 2015, 06:55:33 PM
Well, now it's a question of what the police do when human senses simply aren't cutting it.

What do you mean?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on February 12, 2015, 07:00:26 PM
Kayneth is just going to keep wandering and doing his own thing for a while unless someone wants to interact with him. Any takers?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on February 12, 2015, 07:02:02 PM
Just send him to interact with somebody.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on February 12, 2015, 08:14:17 PM
Still sick. So no posts today.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 12, 2015, 08:41:52 PM
Get well soon!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 13, 2015, 12:53:15 PM
Gintoki not approved yet. *sighs*
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 13, 2015, 01:09:59 PM
Oh be quiet, I've had Michael's sheet up for longer, Bdoom's had Luvia's sheet up for even longer, and I'm not sure why Reaper-chan hasn't bee approved yet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on February 13, 2015, 02:25:54 PM
They've been approved, I just need to update the approvals.

And I may or may not be on tonight.  It depends if I have to work on Saturday because I have to be at the plant at 7AM oh god why so fucking early fuck me.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 13, 2015, 02:29:02 PM
That includes Gintoki?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on February 13, 2015, 02:31:42 PM
Yes that includes Gintoki.  Just don't bring any of his aliens into the RP.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 13, 2015, 02:58:34 PM
Don't worry, Souko-chan has the fourth slot.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on February 13, 2015, 03:02:51 PM
I'll go ahead and update the approvals page. If I toss anyone on there that shouldn't be there, let me know.

Also get better soon, Knick!

EDIT: And there we go. Didn't add unknown hero's new sheet however because since it either went up just last night or this morning, I didn't know if Elf actually had the chance to look at it or not. If she did and it's approved, then I can just toss it up with the rest.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on February 13, 2015, 07:46:02 PM
No approval of my SHIKI?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 13, 2015, 11:05:10 PM
Anyone can bump into Gintoki, just saying.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 14, 2015, 04:17:53 PM
Heyo, Ivan, is it okay if I drop Michael down at the Order's Manor?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 14, 2015, 04:22:36 PM
Heyo, Ivan, is it okay if I drop Michael down at the Order's Manor?

Go on. Yukina and Neo are there.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 14, 2015, 05:36:15 PM
Posted, Ivan. For reference, he's talking to Yukina.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 14, 2015, 08:58:49 PM
Not available until I buy a new charger, I'm afraid.

EDIT: Switched temporarily to Old PC, but Skype is RIP there.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on February 15, 2015, 02:42:05 PM
Ivan, did you notice the bird post?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 15, 2015, 02:48:19 PM
I'm back from Hell.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 15, 2015, 03:21:59 PM
Ivan, did you notice the bird post?

Oh shit, I didn't.

What do we do now?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on February 15, 2015, 03:34:56 PM
Of course, thou must at least add a reaction to the birdie! Or something. To be fair, I have no idea.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 15, 2015, 03:49:13 PM
Of course, thou must at least add a reaction to the birdie! Or something. To be fair, I have no idea.

Okay, I have an idea. Wait a second.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on February 15, 2015, 06:47:43 PM
Birdy Bird Bird of FAIAH is one of the most hilarious things I've read in a while.

And welcome back Kat.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 16, 2015, 01:37:15 PM
I talked about that with Bdoom, but what others think about idea of purely OOC SoL thread without H-elements like it's in Velvet?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 16, 2015, 01:44:05 PM
That...could actually be pretty damn hilarious.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 16, 2015, 03:06:33 PM
One of reasons why I brought Gintoki.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on February 16, 2015, 03:24:34 PM
Since the Velvet Room in 3.0's pretty much become the porn area this time, I could make an alt thread just for OOC shenanigans and label it as such. I'll also label the other Velvet Room as the porn version.

EDIT: And done. Now we have a SFW version. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on February 16, 2015, 03:57:32 PM
I must question the need for yet another thread for character interactions. I know the main thread has antagonists, but one of the points is kind of to allow SoL and free interaction between the PCs.

Not to mention, y'know, the Velvet room is also supposed to be for that stuff (character interactions without the restrictions of the ongoing story of Nexus City), and I have no idea why everyone is actually using it as an actual room for a forceful starting point.

I personally think it's unnecessary, bloats the Cross Effects subforum, and is an addition that will only serve to distract people from writing certain situations in the main thread that they would be motivated to otherwise.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on February 16, 2015, 04:09:46 PM
I think it's honestly more that porn has taken over the Velvet Room to the point that it distracts from its original purpose, making it so people don't feel as comfortable just doing regular SoL stuff in-between all the porn posts. Normally I wouldn't do something that makes the subforum bloat, but in this case I can understand where they're coming from.

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 16, 2015, 04:33:09 PM
>bloating

It has four threads with RP interaction, so calling that bloated is just a minor complaint at most.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on February 16, 2015, 04:37:16 PM
A drunk that keeps drinking despite being on the verge of passing out is still a drunk. But that doesn't mean they should keep it up until they do fall over.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 16, 2015, 04:53:35 PM
If you don't like it, then fine, but I will still endorse the separation.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on February 16, 2015, 04:56:38 PM
I don't know if it'll be a big issue, to be honest. I mean, since the original Velvet Room has been run over by porn anyway, I don't think it'd take away from it at all. Plus I think people mean they'd use it for goofier interactions than would be allowed in IC. So I don't think it'll be an issue.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on February 16, 2015, 05:32:43 PM
I see Neo does not have the best reading comprehension, as I did not imply one of the options in my question excluded the other. :P

I kid.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 16, 2015, 05:35:29 PM
I see Neo does not have the best reading comprehension, as I did not imply one of the options in my question excluded the other. :P

I kid.

He's referencing a meme.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on February 16, 2015, 05:39:54 PM
You mean the meme that might as well be an ordinary part of conversation unless you have context to show the intent to actually refer to it? Heh.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 16, 2015, 05:42:07 PM
Welp. (http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/759/both.png)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on February 16, 2015, 05:45:34 PM
Yes, the meme that might as well be a part of ordinary conversation and unless called special attention to, anyone will hardly recognize. That is in fact it. (*w*)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on February 16, 2015, 05:51:37 PM
I don't know if it'll be a big issue, to be honest. I mean, since the original Velvet Room has been run over by porn anyway, I don't think it'd take away from it at all. Plus I think people mean they'd use it for goofier interactions than would be allowed in IC. So I don't think it'll be an issue.

Yeah, IC isn't suitable for that sort of stuff, because it requires you to have a reason for it to happen, and the original Velvet Room is just too smut-filled right now for non-smut stuff to really occur. I think it's a sensible idea.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on February 17, 2015, 12:58:17 AM
Got to use the word copulate in character dialogue.
Mission accomplished. :3
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on February 17, 2015, 08:45:24 AM
I'm sorry for not posting guys, there's just so much to do.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 18, 2015, 12:23:52 PM
>Sakura Emiya

I introduced a clone before it was cool.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on February 18, 2015, 01:17:56 PM
Guys, I might not be able to post for a while... a long while or a not so long but still kinda long while. How long, even I do not know, but I won't be posting regularly, hell, I might be posting at an even slower rate than Moon, if it's a good day I might post once or twice at most. what should happen? Do I go out puck style, or will you be able to handle a much much slower post rate of mine?

I also am not too sure if I'll be much on skype, if you do have something to tell me, do so by PM or something.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on February 18, 2015, 02:54:00 PM
>Sakura Emiya

I introduced a clone before it was cool.

No, she's just Sakura. She's "Emiya" because she's married....

Guys, I might not be able to post for a while... a long while or a not so long but still kinda long while. How long, even I do not know, but I won't be posting regularly, hell, I might be posting at an even slower rate than Moon, if it's a good day I might post once or twice at most. what should happen? Do I go out puck style, or will you be able to handle a much much slower post rate of mine?

I also am not too sure if I'll be much on skype, if you do have something to tell me, do so by PM or something.

Well, I usually don't post more than a couple of times a day anyway. Possibly you might need to put yourself in a position where you need to do less, but with Vanguard as he is, I'm not sure he's going to be doing much in the immediate future anyway....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on February 18, 2015, 03:28:13 PM
He needs to get something done though to get the situation moving on. Franco, did your toaster toast its last piece of bread?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 18, 2015, 03:57:55 PM
Franco, should Ivan and I move on with the current situation at the manor?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 18, 2015, 05:31:16 PM
Umm...Ivan?

Michael didn't draw it as a 12-foot long staff. It was a stick he could fit in his palm. The thing can go from that tiny stick to either an 8-foot long staff or a 12-foot long staff at will. Besides, where the hell would you fit a 12-foot long staff on your person?

Anyway, might want to edit your post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 18, 2015, 05:36:12 PM
Umm...Ivan?

Michael didn't draw it as a 12-foot long staff. It was a stick he could fit in his palm. The thing can go from that tiny stick to either an 8-foot long staff or a 12-foot long staff at will. Besides, where the hell would you fit a 12-foot long staff on your person?

I know it is retractable. Even then, anyone can still clearly see a staff extending itself, especially if it was drawn out first, then made to extend. Upon looking at the thing, anyone can already see the thing extending, so Neo dodged the thing as it grew in size towards him.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 18, 2015, 05:42:49 PM
Sorry for not clarifying, but the staff extends/retracts too quickly for that. Like, nigh-instantly. They suggested that it be a phelbotonium staff, so I decided to go with it.

Phelbotonium (Or however it's actually spelled) = Material that can just do shit just because.

It's not a telescoping staff, to clarify. It just extends/retracts to any of the three states mentioned in the sheet (hand-held, 8-foot long, 12-foot long)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 18, 2015, 05:44:49 PM
Sorry for not clarifying, but the staff extends/retracts too quickly for that.

Even then, you still could see being drawn out and being prepared to be extended. And even if it was nigh-instantly, it would still be extended in such a way that it the two ends would grow, instead of one end just growing. Because if it did the latter, Michael would be at a disadvantage.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 18, 2015, 05:48:17 PM
Mike, my joke referred to the fact there is not only one more Shirou, but now one more Sakura.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on February 18, 2015, 06:00:55 PM
the manor thing can move on, as for vanny, I'll try to keep posting a bit to get it done, but it will take time. To be fair, I'd LIKE to keep posting actively with him and not be done for good, but it will be at a much much slower rate. I also don't think Lorry will make it to the nazi hunt :(

It could take a while, I am not sure how long myself, but at least one month. So I'd post at most one post per day if luckee. Now, for Vanguard, I really have no idea what to do to make him go afk for the while, so I ask, which is better? That I keep posting with him normally but keep you waiting real slowly, or have something immediate happen to incapacitate him till I am able to resume normally and not keep ya fellas waiting.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on February 18, 2015, 06:07:54 PM
Mike, my joke referred to the fact there is not only one more Shirou, but now one more Sakura.

Ah, right, OK.

Well, there will be yet another Shirou sometime soon....

Now, for Vanguard, I really have no idea what to do to make him go afk for the while, so I ask, which is better? That I keep posting with him normally but keep you waiting real slowly, or have something immediate happen to incapacitate him till I am able to resume normally and not keep ya fellas waiting.

Erm, isn't he already somewhat incapacitated? Sakura can't afford to heal him, and he doesn't look like he's in any suitable state to do anything but resting and recovering....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 18, 2015, 06:27:06 PM
Sorry for not clarifying, but the staff extends/retracts too quickly for that.

Even then, you still could see being drawn out and being prepared to be extended. And even if it was nigh-instantly, it would still be extended in such a way that it the two ends would grow, instead of one end just growing. Because if it did the latter, Michael would be at a disadvantage.

I fail to see how you could see it 'preparing to be extended' given that it just lengthens/retracts at will, but I've already posted and there's nothing meaningful to be gained in arguing this further.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 18, 2015, 06:56:15 PM
...Ivan, you do realize that Neo should have been sent flying, unless he has the kind of grip strength that lets you resist being basically ragdoll'd, right?

For reference, Human Grip strength vs Angular speed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwo9AvTA5xY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwo9AvTA5xY)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 18, 2015, 07:00:12 PM
...Ivan, you do realize that Neo should have been sent flying, unless he has the kind of grip strength that lets you resist being basically ragdoll'd, right?

Well, yeah. In fact, he is being thrown away right now. Back away from Michael.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 18, 2015, 07:02:22 PM
Then he shouldn't have still been holding onto that staff before Michael retracted it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 18, 2015, 07:16:23 PM
Then he shouldn't have still been holding onto that staff before Michael retracted it.

Nope. The plan was to get close to him, break the flask and get thrown away when he extends the staff again. 
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 18, 2015, 07:25:29 PM
...Ivan, basic physics. Neo isn't holding onto that staff when Michael is swinging it and Neo around with Neo basically ragdolling.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 18, 2015, 07:27:44 PM
...Ivan, basic physics. Neo isn't holding onto that staff when Michael is swinging it and Neo around with Neo basically ragdolling.

Well, I didn't understand your post. I interpreted it as Michael retracting the staff and re-extending it, in which Neo kept his hold on to it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 18, 2015, 07:37:23 PM
He did that after swinging it around to shake him off/bash him into any nearby environmental objects.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 18, 2015, 07:39:26 PM
He did that after swinging it around to shake him off/bash him into any nearby environmental objects.

Well, he held.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on February 18, 2015, 07:41:07 PM
...Ivan, basic physics. Neo isn't holding onto that staff when Michael is swinging it and Neo around with Neo basically ragdolling.

Basic physics isn't really on your side here, though. You are holding onto the rod close to the pivot point, he is holding it a long distance from the pivot point. You have to exert significantly more force to cause him to accelerate than he does to prevent it (or to cause you to accelerate, for that matter). And, using your body as the pivot point only causes it to be held stable at that point, it doesn't help with the acceleration.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 18, 2015, 07:47:45 PM
Fair point. I suppose physics got thrown out the window when Neo grabbed a nigh-instantly extending staff pointed at him, but ah well. I can work with this anyway.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 18, 2015, 07:54:32 PM
Fair point. I suppose physics got thrown out the window when Neo grabbed a nigh-instantly extending staff pointed at him, but ah well. I can work with this anyway.

He actually barely dodged it, before taking hold onto it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 18, 2015, 08:04:05 PM
Well, I have some complaints now.

How come Michael could quickly grab Neo's wrist to make him let go of the flask, when Neo quickly broke the flask by hitting it in the staff? Even if he has some sort of nigh-precognition, the very action of breaking a flask by hitting it in a nearby hard surface isn't directly threatening at all.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 18, 2015, 08:16:30 PM
First of all, Neo put himself within Michael's reach when he held on to the staff when he retracted it to 8-feet long, as Michael pulled the staff in while retracting it. And, again, Michael was not kidding when he said that nothing Neo could do would surprise him. Michael is already sure Neo is an Alchemist, and when you're fighting an Alchemist it goes without saying that you don't let them use potions. Seeing the flask was enough.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on February 18, 2015, 08:51:15 PM
Well, I have some complaints now.

How come Michael could quickly grab Neo's wrist to make him let go of the flask, when Neo quickly broke the flask by hitting it in the staff? Even if he has some sort of nigh-precognition, the very action of breaking a flask by hitting it in a nearby hard surface isn't directly threatening at all.

If someone you're fighting pulls out a flask, it's pretty obviously not for decoration. They're going to do something with it....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on February 18, 2015, 09:17:06 PM
Still no ruling on SHIKI?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 19, 2015, 11:06:34 AM
Alright, Panda, how the hell did you think Yukina would not know how to shoot, when there are two people in the Order who know how guns work and especially when Yukina herself is an engineer and blacksmith?

I'm just using the expression "pulling the trigger" as a matter of common parlance, man. What the hell?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 19, 2015, 11:39:47 AM
Panda may continue banter with Mordred until Noel/Saber gets there or Yolf bothers to reply with Tar.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 19, 2015, 12:38:43 PM
Then why did you refer to the shooting method that results in one's aim being thrown off? This was on you, buddy.

I mean, I'd think Yukina would specifically know to squeeze the trigger as opposed to pulling it.

Also, she's going to miss anyway. Just not by as much in this case.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 19, 2015, 01:01:29 PM
Then why did you refer to the shooting method that results in one's aim being thrown off? This was on you, buddy.

I mean, I'd think Yukina would specifically know to squeeze the trigger as opposed to pulling it.

Also, she's going to miss anyway. Just not by as much in this case.

Because the term referring to the resistance of the trigger is still referred to as "trigger pull". Moreso, squeezing the trigger in this case doesn't apply because the rifle is supported not only the forward hand in the barrel shroud, but also in stock by the shoulder. With that, the rifle wouldn't flinch even when the trigger is "pulled' as opposed to "squeezed" because the whole rifle is steady in her posture.

And one more thing: When he rushed towards Yukina and disarmed her, I felt like that was too fast even for him and didn't give her time to react. As if the whole thing is preemptive already. I mean, come on, flick off the two blades just like that?

In this case, I don't think Michael still has a proper casus belli towards Neo, because what angered him towards Neo was his attitude towards Yukina, more so that Neo already refused on the grounds of drug intoxication. The whole thing looks like a set-up just for Michael to beat down Neo right from the start, especially when the first thing he asked was about his fighting ability when Yukina revealed that Neo is an alchemist. This is evidenced more by the fact that he wants to "knock him down a few pegs" for his personality towards Yukina. And then, when Yukina tries to stop the two men from further attacking Neo, his first reaction is charge towards her and disarm her, instead of just dodging a bullet and being surprised of why she did that. If anything else, if his reason is simply a thirst for battle, he would have challenged Yukina first.

In other words, it is as if Michael was there just to target Neo for his attitude.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on February 19, 2015, 01:08:12 PM
When he rushed towards Yukina and disarmed her, I felt like that was too fast even for him and didn't give her time to react. As if the whole thing is preemptive already.

In this case there legitimately isn't much Yukina can do to resist after having fired her shot. With the reinforcement in place Michael is top-tier supernatural, meaning that even readjusting her aim for another shot will be enough time for Michael to get close.

That said Panda it's usually a good idea to talk such things out between you two if you're going to smash another character around without even the chance of a comeback.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 19, 2015, 02:08:59 PM
...did you even read the sheet? Michael is pretty much a textbook Blood Knight. He loves to fight. Also, at no point during this is he actually angered. Annoyed, yes, but not angered. And why the hell would he want to fight Yukina? She doesn't look strong at all, and doesn't carry herself as someone who is strong. No fun to fight someone who doesn't even look like they can put up a decent fight. Michael also offered Neo the first shot, and would have held back enough to drag the fight out if Neo had taken it. But no, Neo had to be all prideful and act like his victory against Michael was guaranteed. Thus giving Michael a reason to want to knock Neo down a few pegs, because the next guy Neo mouths off to might not be nearly as kind with regards to making sure he's alive afterwards, so Michael figures it would be best to try to break him of the attitude now.

Also, Michael has a natural dislike of people who resort to recreational drugs (combat drugs are fine), but all of this just added to Michael's already low opinion of Neo's self-preservation instincts. Can't fight back properly if you're drugged up. Unless that's just how you roll, in which case Michael is fine, so long as you can fight well.

As for his reaction to Yukina, she's interfering with the fight. If you'll look carefully, he's about to talk to Lorenzo about coming in out of nowhere on Neo before Yukina comes back with a gun.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on February 19, 2015, 02:24:46 PM
When he rushed towards Yukina and disarmed her, I felt like that was too fast even for him and didn't give her time to react. As if the whole thing is preemptive already.

In this case there legitimately isn't much Yukina can do to resist after having fired her shot. With the reinforcement in place Michael is top-tier supernatural, meaning that even readjusting her aim for another shot will be enough time for Michael to get close.

That said Panda it's usually a good idea to talk such things out between you two if you're going to smash another character around without even the chance of a comeback.

Yeah, whilst it might not be reasonable for Yukina to avoid his attack, he can't dictate how she responds to his actions, only what those actions are. If he thinks there is god-modding going on in the response, then he needs to go talk to a GM about it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 19, 2015, 02:28:17 PM
...did you even read the sheet? Michael is pretty much a textbook Blood Knight. He loves to fight. Also, at no point during this is he actually angered. Annoyed, yes, but not angered. And why the hell would he want to fight Yukina? She doesn't look strong at all, and doesn't carry herself as someone who is strong. No fun to fight someone who doesn't even look like they can put up a decent fight. Michael also offered Neo the first shot, and would have held back enough to drag the fight out if Neo had taken it. But no, Neo had to be all prideful and act like his victory against Michael was guaranteed. Thus giving Michael a reason to want to knock Neo down a few pegs, because the next guy Neo mouths off to might not be nearly as kind with regards to making sure he's alive afterwards, so Michael figures it would be best to try to break him of the attitude now.

As for his reaction to Yukina, she's interfering with the fight. If you'll look carefully, he's about to talk to Lorenzo about coming in out of nowhere on Neo before Yukina comes back with a gun.

First, Yukina not being challenged by Michael on the basis of physical appearance goes against Michael's apparent couple of millennia experience. In other words, it is quite possible that he might have encountered someone who looks weak but is actually strong, so why does he quickly assume that Yukina is a weaking simply because of basic appearances? And oh, strong people can be humble too, so why should her apparent demeanor be a basis of her actual strength?

Second, Michael already mention the "knocking down a few pegs" to Neo before he even said something about refusing to make the first move, which is why he was dragged out the Manor in the first place.

Third, if you look from Yukina's perspective, the fight already looks like a 2v1 battle. If Michael doesn't want anyone to interfere with the fight, he would have interfered with Lorenzo beating up on Neo right from the start. But he didn't.

Also, Michael has a natural dislike of people who resort to recreational drugs (combat drugs are fine), but all of this just added to Michael's already low opinion of Neo's self-preservation instincts. Can't fight back properly if you're drugged up. Unless that's just how you roll, in which case Michael is fine, so long as you can fight well.

Again, this is not a matter of self-preservation, because Neo was offered a duel, in which self-preservation isn't a factor at all because duels are a matter of honor, not essential survival. If anything else, Neo only gained more points on self-preservation in this case because he refused to fight him on the basis of drug intoxication. In other words, he was aware that he can't fight while high, so he refused because that would be dangerous for him. But Michael insisted, so Neo offered him something to level the playing field, right before Lorenzo crashed in the manor to attack Neo on the basis of his insults towards Yukina.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 19, 2015, 03:50:14 PM
First of all, not a couple of millennia, way more. Second, from what he's seen, Yukina doesn't carry herself with any sort of confidence, which is funny as while the Yamato Nadeshiko archetype is supposed to be supportive of their spouse/partner, they also have their own opinions and will not hesitate to make their stance clear. Silk hiding Steel, if you will. Yukina, on the other hand, lacks the Steel from what Michael's seen. No self-confidence = no confidence in fighting ability = no fun to fight. There is a distinct difference between humility and a lack of self-confidence.

As for the knocking him down a few pegs, that idea was first made when Neo refused to apologize, not because he refused to apologize, but because he basically looked at someone who, from Michael perspective, looked way stronger (pissed-off pyromancer swordsman vs unarmed stoned Alchemist at close range, I don't need to tell you how that would go.) and already looked pretty murderous and basically told him to go fuck himself. That level of stupid is not one that Michael will suffer for any longer than he has to. Also note that Michael tried to separate Neo from Lorenzo, granted he wasn't particularly gentle about it. But the fact remains that he doesn't like Lorenzo interfering with the fight. Again, he was about to call Lorenzo out on it, but Yukina tried to shoot him.

And yes, Neo was offered a duel. But the point is not that he happened to be high when the duel was offered, but that he would get high in the first place, when anyone could pop in on the mansion. And Michael wasn't ticked about Neo refusing to fight due to being inebriated, it was because Neo gave the impression that his work on that so-called pancea would be severely set back by a quick spar. (Look at it from his perspective. A few minutes to fight, Neo heals up with a healing potion, which Michael expects that he'll have, due to his knowledge that Neo is an Alchemist, and then Neo can get right back at that cure-all.) The way he put it sounded like he was making excuses for himself, which is annoying.

That aside, Michael was also annoyed that Neo was inebriated in the first place, given that people can just drop into the Manor at anytime. Someone far less nice could potentially end up also in the manor, and if Neo is high at this time, it won't end well at all for him. So yeah, self-preservation instincts are hitting rock-bottom here from what Michael can see.

And Michael also offered to level the playing field. Then Lorenzo arrived and scuppered all of those plans, so Michael decided to make do with what he could get and try to get Neo to sober up, which he did, before actually starting the fight (Throwing him out the door was to separate him from Lorenzo).

That aside, I see your points on the actions against Yukina and have modified my post to have him trying to disarm Yukina and take her down. Though, given that Michael is moving at High Supernatural, he's attacking even faster, and Yukina's agility is human, I doubt she's going to be able to do much about it, especially considering what Kat said earlier.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 19, 2015, 04:51:16 PM
First of all, not a couple of millennia, way more. Second, from what he's seen, Yukina doesn't carry herself with any sort of confidence, which is funny as while the Yamato Nadeshiko archetype is supposed to be supportive of their spouse/partner, they also have their own opinions and will not hesitate to make their stance clear. Silk hiding Steel, if you will. Yukina, on the other hand, lacks the Steel from what Michael's seen. No self-confidence = no confidence in fighting ability = no fun to fight. There is a distinct difference between humility and a lack of self-confidence.

The first point is moot, although it begs the question for the human brain capacity. At that point, there would be a lot of details that Michael would have forgotten, disregarded or did not see in his life, even if he has a whole lot of experience that amounts to more than two millennia of experiences. In fact, this is the reason why I did not let anyone in the Order become excessively old even as immortals: Human brain capacity, as manifested by their maxim in the Order that you can never see it all. In fact, there would be so many changes in human civilization even at the span of almost 250 years (Rattus' age; Trust me on this because I did research on his whole background story and it was not a walk in the park.) that every experience you have accumulated, barring any human mental limitations, can be rendered useless by any technological innovation that supersedes a certain field of expertise you have. (For example, Rattus is an expert equestrian, owing to his experience as a Hussar officer from the start of Napoleonic Wars until World War 1. Well, there's a reason why he stopped being in the cavalry during WW1, and not because he feels like stopping.) But, I digress...

Second, have you not heard of anyone who weren't confident on themselves on some certain field, and then it turns out that they're actually so talented on it and only needed some shaking up? Well, if Michael has seen a lot in the span of more than two millennia and he has the skill to recall every single thing he saw or remembered, chances are he would have come across that certain kind of person.

As for the knocking him down a few pegs, that idea was first made when Neo refused to apologize, not because he refused to apologize, but because he basically looked at someone who, from Michael perspective, looked way stronger (pissed-off pyromancer swordsman vs unarmed stoned Alchemist at close range, I don't need to tell you how that would go.) and already looked pretty murderous and basically told him to go fuck himself. That level of stupid is not one that Michael will suffer for any longer than he has to. Also note that Michael tried to separate Neo from Lorenzo, granted he wasn't particularly gentle about it. But the fact remains that he doesn't like Lorenzo interfering with the fight. Again, he was about to call Lorenzo out on it, but Yukina tried to shoot him.

Well, Michael did badger Neo on duel while Neo told him off on the basis of being high. That's not stupid, that's being cautious. Neo just particularly happened to be a person of that persuasion where he's dysphemistic regarding his speech, so I thought that's where it started. And again, Lorenzo pummeled Neo for that reason, yet Michael only tried to stop Lorenzo after Neo was dragged out of the Manor. That's already too late for Michael to tell Lorenzo to not intervene.

And yes, Neo was offered a duel. But the point is not that he happened to be high when the duel was offered, but that he would get high in the first place, when anyone could pop in on the mansion. And Michael wasn't ticked about Neo refusing to fight due to being inebriated, it was because Neo gave the impression that his work on that so-called pancea would be severely set back by a quick spar. (Look at it from his perspective. A few minutes to fight, Neo heals up with a healing potion, which Michael expects that he'll have, due to his knowledge that Neo is an Alchemist, and then Neo can get right back at that cure-all.) The way he put it sounded like he was making excuses for himself, which is annoying.

First, disdaining Neo for being high when anyone could pop in the mansion is like disdaining someone who plays video games or doing any recreation when thieves can break into their house anytime. Second, Neo did mention first that he was working on the cure-all but with unsuccessful results, so he decided to take a break by intoxicating himself. That's the time when Neo told him that he refuses to fight on the basis of drug intoxication. In other words, Neo was taking a weed break from his research when he was challenged, so he refused because he was high, which happens to be a break from his panacea work. Michael only got the wrong impression.

That aside, Michael was also annoyed that Neo was inebriated in the first place, given that people can just drop into the Manor at anytime. Someone far less nice could potentially end up also in the manor, and if Neo is high at this time, it won't end well at all for him. So yeah, self-preservation instincts are hitting rock-bottom here from what Michael can see.

Again, this: disdaining Neo for being high when anyone could pop in the mansion is like disdaining someone who plays video games doing any recreation when thieves can break into their house anytime. On that basis, why take sleeping pills at night when you can potentially be invaded during that time? (I'm taking Olanzapine, which functions as a sleeping pill, and there ain't no waking up until it's effects wear off. So yeah.)

And Michael also offered to level the playing field. Then Lorenzo arrived and scuppered all of those plans, so Michael decided to make do with what he could get and try to get Neo to sober up, which he did, before actually starting the fight (Throwing him out the door was to separate him from Lorenzo).

No contest on this.

That aside, I see your points on the actions against Yukina and have modified my post to have him trying to disarm Yukina and take her down. Though, given that Michael is moving at High Supernatural, he's attacking even faster, and Yukina's agility is human, I doubt she's going to be able to do much about it, especially considering what Kat said earlier.

Yeah, I'm just waiting for Franco, since Neo is trying to tackle Lorenzo. (Hint: The whole thing is implicitly suicidal for Neo and he knows it.)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 19, 2015, 06:46:05 PM
The first point is moot, although it begs the question for the human brain capacity. At that point, there would be a lot of details that Michael would have forgotten, disregarded or did not see in his life, even if he has a whole lot of experience that amounts to more than two millennia of experiences. In fact, this is the reason why I did not let anyone in the Order become excessively old even as immortals: Human brain capacity, as manifested by their maxim in the Order that you can never see it all. In fact, there would be so many changes in human civilization even at the span of almost 250 years (Rattus' age; Trust me on this because I did research on his whole background story and it was not a walk in the park.) that every experience you have accumulated, barring any human mental limitations, can be rendered useless by any technological innovation that supersedes a certain field of expertise you have. (For example, Rattus is an expert equestrian, owing to his experience as a Hussar officer from the start of Napoleonic Wars until World War 1. Well, there's a reason why he stopped being in the cavalry during WW1, and not because he feels like stopping.) But, I digress...

Second, have you not heard of anyone who weren't confident on themselves on some certain field, and then it turns out that they're actually so talented on it and only needed some shaking up? Well, if Michael has seen a lot in the span of more than two millennia and he has the skill to recall every single thing he saw or remembered, chances are he would have come across that certain kind of person.

Yes, he has. He also understands that they're rare enough at Yukina's age (most people will usually figure out what they're good at by then) that he's not going to consider the possibility unless some evidence of this being the case shows itself.

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Well, Michael did badger Neo on duel while Neo told him off on the basis of being high. That's not stupid, that's being cautious. Neo just particularly happened to be a person of that persuasion where he's dysphemistic regarding his speech, so I thought that's where it started. And again, Lorenzo pummeled Neo for that reason, yet Michael only tried to stop Lorenzo after Neo was dragged out of the Manor. That's already too late for Michael to tell Lorenzo to not intervene.

Actually, looking back at the posts, Lorenzo didn't drag Neo out of the Manor. Michael tossed him out to separate him from Lorenzo, so yeah.

http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,505.msg28020.html#msg28020 (http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,505.msg28020.html#msg28020)

Lorenzo's post. Take note of the distinct lack of Neo being ejected from the Manor. Thrown onto the floor, yes, but not ejected from the Manor.

http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,505.msg28022.html#msg28022 (http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,505.msg28022.html#msg28022)

Michael's post, wherein Neo is tossed out of the Manor.

Furthermore, note that Michael doesn't actually start the fight until Neo comes down from the high. Once more, tossing him out the door doesn't count, as that was to get him away from Lorenzo.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 19, 2015, 07:04:30 PM
Yes, he has. He also understands that they're rare enough at Yukina's age (most people will usually figure out what they're good at by then) that he's not going to consider the possibility unless some evidence of this being the case shows itself.

Well, considering that Yukina looks like an 18 year old and she had not revealed herself as an immortal, it is safe to say that Michael could superficially say that she just didn't find the field she is good at yet.

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Actually, looking back at the posts, Lorenzo didn't drag Neo out of the Manor. Michael tossed him out to separate him from Lorenzo, so yeah.

http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,505.msg28020.html#msg28020 (http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,505.msg28020.html#msg28020)

Lorenzo's post. Take note of the distinct lack of Neo being ejected from the Manor. Thrown onto the floor, yes, but not ejected from the Manor.

http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,505.msg28022.html#msg28022 (http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,505.msg28022.html#msg28022)

Michael's post, wherein Neo is tossed out of the Manor.

Furthermore, note that Michael doesn't actually start the fight until Neo comes down from the high. Once more, tossing him out the door doesn't count, as that was to get him away from Lorenzo.

Well, I didn't say anything about Lorenzo tossing out Neo. I did say that Michael tossed out Neo, so your two links are irrelevant at this point.

And no, Neo isn't out of the high yet. Nobody just comes out of the high just like that. Take it from me and my experiences regarding being a patient.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 19, 2015, 07:53:30 PM
...Ivan, how the heck do you design sheathes/blades that can resist someone trying to remove them from their sheathes? I mean, the only way he would have tried is by catching the end of the staff on the guard of the blade and flicking it out that way, so unless those weapons don't have guards...
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on February 19, 2015, 08:16:49 PM
Kat or Franco, its your turn in the clusterfuck.

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 19, 2015, 08:27:20 PM
When he rushed towards Yukina and disarmed her, I felt like that was too fast even for him and didn't give her time to react. As if the whole thing is preemptive already.

In this case there legitimately isn't much Yukina can do to resist after having fired her shot. With the reinforcement in place Michael is top-tier supernatural, meaning that even readjusting her aim for another shot will be enough time for Michael to get close.

That said Panda it's usually a good idea to talk such things out between you two if you're going to smash another character around without even the chance of a comeback.

To be perfectly honest, I was just expecting a quick spar with Neo where I could have Michael hold back enough to drag things out. Things just escalated. A lot. I blame Franco.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 20, 2015, 08:23:52 AM
...Ivan, how the heck do you design sheathes/blades that can resist someone trying to remove them from their sheathes? I mean, the only way he would have tried is by catching the end of the staff on the guard of the blade and flicking it out that way, so unless those weapons don't have guards...

Well, Japanese swords usually have this curve resulting from the cooling process in their forging, as well as the fact their sheaths were custom made to have a tighter opening.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 20, 2015, 12:15:39 PM
Doesn't matter unless the blade doesn't have a guard. Michael is fully within his capabilities to brute-force it while enhanced.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 20, 2015, 01:20:10 PM
Doesn't matter unless the blade doesn't have a guard. Michael is fully within his capabilities to brute-force it while enhanced.

Doesn't matter now if it has a guard or not anyway.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 20, 2015, 01:22:08 PM
Just reminding Gintoki posted, so whoever turn it is now should post now.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 20, 2015, 01:31:59 PM
Fair point, but this is for future reference. Also, while a tanto usually doesn't have a guard (they're meant for ceremonial usage/concealed carry), a wakizashi usually does, as it's meant for direct combat to some degree.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 20, 2015, 02:03:27 PM
Fair point, but this is for future reference. Also, while a tanto usually doesn't have a guard (they're meant for ceremonial usage/concealed carry), a wakizashi usually does, as it's meant for direct combat to some degree.

Actually, tanto swords could have one. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Antique_Japanese_tanto%2C_British_museum.jpg)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 20, 2015, 04:26:53 PM
Yolf owes me Tar post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 20, 2015, 05:03:04 PM
While we're on this topic, Magos owes the compound group a Law post and an Archer post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 22, 2015, 07:00:55 PM
Yolf's turn again to post Tar.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on February 23, 2015, 12:01:54 AM
Might not be able to post till tuesday, work and other things are swamping me.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on February 23, 2015, 04:00:49 AM
Hey theunknownhero, please add a empty line of space between every paragraph.  It makes your posts really hard to read if you don't.

Like so:

"Holy flying cripes on toast, Batman!"

"I'm the goddamn Batman."
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 23, 2015, 12:49:53 PM
It's okay, Knick.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 23, 2015, 01:29:15 PM
Might not be able to post till tuesday, work and other things are swamping me.

Sorry.

IRL comes first. It's okay, we'll be fine. Just do what you need to do.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 23, 2015, 05:31:46 PM
Who would be interested in joking a yakuza among Player Characters here?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on February 23, 2015, 06:10:01 PM
Possibly Kizumi
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 24, 2015, 02:17:53 AM
Posted sheet of Doromizu Jirochou.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 27, 2015, 12:34:30 PM
I'm dropping my vampire PC.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on February 27, 2015, 06:31:51 PM
And that's Grendel shoved into a portal
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on March 01, 2015, 02:16:33 AM
I should be almost good to post regularly again soon, probably by Monday night.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 01, 2015, 02:14:47 PM
Erm, Knick, did you miss the second Rider and Vanguard posts? I mean, it's fine if you talk to Rider according to the first post, but she did say some other stuff after that, and she's already left.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on March 01, 2015, 08:18:54 PM
Been dealing poorly with the snow storm, so haven't posted for a while.
2 weeks and a few days with very little human contact outside of immediate family until the last 3-4 days is not healthy, good Lord.

Anyway, hopefully should be around more. Got dragged into Worm (the web novel/serial) and it's fanfic fandom.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on March 01, 2015, 09:58:02 PM
No, I did not see them, will delete and redo my post tonight

Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 02, 2015, 01:04:59 AM
Farewell, Mooncake.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Mooncake on March 02, 2015, 04:09:36 AM
Goodbye, Gilgamesh, Wanderer, Lucas, Ezra, Hakumen, Vlad, Alucard, and Belmont.


Also r.i.p. Gilgamesh vs. Karna, that was super fun.




but yeah later folks







E: customary fuck satoshi, well done nachos

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on March 02, 2015, 02:42:21 PM
Good luck at school MoonMoon and godspeed.

Shine on you crazy diamond.



And apparently Adjutor is gonna get Anned.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on March 02, 2015, 02:53:57 PM
It was an honor, Moony.

Now, what to do about Butler and Vlad...
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on March 02, 2015, 05:30:55 PM
And apparently Adjutor is gonna get Anned.

...If all else fails, this should result in some sort of development for Adjutor's character.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Alice on March 03, 2015, 01:16:43 AM
Finally posted after all this time. Sorry for the extended delay, I had a virus that wouldn't kick out as soon as I thought it would.

Also, bye Moony, and good luck at school! :D It was cool having you.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on March 03, 2015, 01:32:20 PM
Best of luck, Moony. Gonna miss your contribution to CE.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on March 03, 2015, 02:31:06 PM
And I forgot to say farewell. Whoops.

Farewell, Sum of Two Moons.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 03, 2015, 04:34:26 PM
Yeah, the Butler is unemployed again.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Mooncake on March 04, 2015, 04:02:59 AM
Oh.

Before I forget, goodbye, my unnamed antagonist, the full incarnation of Angra Mainyu, God of Curses

:D

fun times



see you next time, space cowboys
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 06, 2015, 11:55:55 AM
RIP David, Mordred held a grudge against him.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on March 06, 2015, 03:03:35 PM
Doesn't Mordred hold a grudge against almost everyone she meets though?

Also RIP David.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on March 07, 2015, 03:40:01 AM
That Medaka sheet needs a little bit of tweaking before it's allowed. Just Alpha Presence really. Partially because, as a reader of the manga I can tell you that's not quite accurate to her actual abilities, and because it doesn't work under the format of the RP.

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Alpha Presence: Medaka's raw power, which humans perceive as either as a supernatural charisma and eloquence which inspires them to follow her, or as an overwhelming fearful aura that forces them to obey her. This raw power when sensed by animals inspires only pure terror. As a result, although Medaka adores animals, they in turn are frightened to death of her and will avoid contact with her at all costs.

Medaka doesn't terrify or inspire humans to follow her that strongly. Not even to like her. It's more that people who meet her recognize that she has a grand presence and are indeed more likely to respect her, but it's not a forceful reaction. That same feeling she has about her causes animals to avoid her out of fear for someone much higher up in the food chain, like avoiding an alpha out of instinct. So that part is acceptable.

The first part needs changing. Not just because it's inaccurate but because according to the rules of the RP charisma has to come out in character. Not be something that is just an informed ability on the sheet. Also because it puts an unreasonable amount of influence on other PCs if it's taken literally.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 07, 2015, 04:12:59 AM
Also because it puts an unreasonable amount of influence on other PCs if it's taken literally.

And Hamara doesn't?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on March 07, 2015, 04:22:20 AM
Also because it puts an unreasonable amount of influence on other PCs if it's taken literally.

And Hamara doesn't?

Not really. Hamara's ability, as Knick as explained, does not make you act in a certain way towards him anymore than your own judgement and personality do.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 08, 2015, 07:11:55 PM
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Doesn't Mordred hold a grudge against almost everyone she meets though?

Also RIP David.

Tar and Faust had positive impression on her.

Even if initial misunderstanding in the case of the latter.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on March 09, 2015, 08:33:32 PM
Umbra, good taste in music for Caedia. Dragon's Dogma's ost is quite nice. :)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on March 10, 2015, 01:54:21 AM
So given the situation with Moony leaving, we decided in private to retcon what's happened in the castle so far. To anyone for whom this may be an inconvenience, sorry about that.

On the bright side, Butler and Wiseman are free again.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 10, 2015, 12:51:44 PM
That's better than leaving them in the void.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on March 10, 2015, 06:44:15 PM
Milbunk, can I make an observation? Who exactly do you think is going to come to Kayneth's press conference? Random lunatic yelling at phones and calling for a press conference wouldn't exactly impress a lot of people. Nobody with any actual importance in Nexus City is likely to attend. Probably just bored people and some journalists, as well as people whose work is at least tangentially related to that sort of stuff.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on March 12, 2015, 01:19:10 AM
Mil, to what extent of permanent/lasting damage are you OK with Kayneth being inflicted.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on March 12, 2015, 01:21:35 AM
...I get the feeling that I'm missing something here, but has there been an actual reason specified for this press conference? Or is it just his way of saying 'hi', to put it bluntly.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 12, 2015, 08:56:49 PM
I may be slow on updates given my RL situation.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on March 13, 2015, 06:39:04 AM
Sorry about the delayed responses but stuff comes up and I'm not often called upon in this thread so I'm slow to notice.

Ok, well my reasoning for Kayneth is that he wants to get a standing in the city and quickly so brute force is the best option. But yes basically Kayneth is going to be starting a press conference in order to say hi, I'd like to start dealing with nobles and such so I can get back to my own business. (Also who doesn't love noble tea parties?)

As for damage to Kayneth, uh while we do have a no kill rule I like to just go with the feel so do what you what, just be prepared that the more you may try to damage my characters the more I might bite back.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 13, 2015, 10:56:52 AM
I will reply today, but still some stuff to do.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on March 15, 2015, 01:39:15 PM
Anyone up to being among the crew at the mall, so that I have a PC to interact with? Or even someone ready, willing and able to do NPC police, firefighter, and ambulance people.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 16, 2015, 12:11:32 PM
I'm going either to free up my PC or use the one I have not used yet. I'll PM you.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on March 22, 2015, 04:16:37 PM
What the hell Mil, you completely skipped mine and Umbra's posts.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 22, 2015, 04:37:26 PM
Maybe he is not backlogging? :p
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on March 23, 2015, 04:19:27 AM
Yeah sorry I was absent soon after that last Kayneth post and after coming back I didn't notice your posts, I'll fix it soon.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on March 24, 2015, 01:05:17 PM
Okay, Franco's demon kinda broke Cole and now there's a rampage event getting started if anyone wants to join in.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 24, 2015, 03:43:58 PM
Gintoki entered the fray.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on March 24, 2015, 05:05:38 PM
W-wha how did...

Like, um, that escalated quickly.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on March 24, 2015, 06:02:26 PM
LEARN FROM THIS, FRANCO!

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MINDFUCK THE NOT-ENTIRELY-STABLE PERSON WITH NO MORAL CODE WHO BENDS LIGHTNING TO HIS WILL AS A NATURAL ABILITY!

Well, it's not that simple, but it's still demon-bro's fault.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on March 25, 2015, 12:05:28 AM
So, uh, any police/firemen/ambulance PCs or NPCs available? YOLF reminded me that I've left Sarse hanging for too long. Kat mentioned potentially having a PC ready, but I have time to work on a post, but don't feel confident in writing NPC law and safety people. >.>
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 25, 2015, 11:57:33 AM
I'm dropping Jirochou for now, but Amon will be a member of the police force, so when he gets submitted and approved, maybe I will post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on March 26, 2015, 01:46:44 AM
I'm not posting with PARIAH so you can respond, Mil.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on March 26, 2015, 06:32:02 AM
For anyone who didn't hear this already, I actually have an important point to bring up, that I want people to keep in mind in the future.

Please try to not submit sheets without giving proper thought if you really want to play them. We've already had a lot of characters retired or left for later recently because people decided they didn't want to play the characters or keep using them. I'm fine with people deciding after playing a character for a while that they want to retire them or replace them because they've hit the end of their mileage for the player, or they're not as fun.

But please give some consideration to the sheets you submit so we don't keep getting accepted characters no one uses and the GMs have to eventually cross out.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on March 28, 2015, 08:58:28 AM
Might be a little slow on posts, having difficulty with some and also gone all day Sunday.

Will try for tomorrow but no promises.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 28, 2015, 11:31:16 AM
I will reply to franco now, sorry for the wait.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on March 31, 2015, 09:41:49 AM
I should post tomorrow, sorry about the delay.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 02, 2015, 10:13:44 PM
Who can help out Gintoki in his fight?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on April 04, 2015, 12:31:03 AM
So...I'm entirely stuck at the moment with Than'Sanel and regret suggesting he go over and check the mall again.
I suppose I should've had some internal commentary like "it'd be nice if Sarse was there, being acquainted better to Nexus and potentially its justice and public safety system", huh? Argh.
Serious apologies to YOLF once more.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on April 04, 2015, 09:07:27 AM
So I brought this up in skype a while ago but you guys talk so fast if anyone responded I couldn't see it.

I get why the profiles of the villains are supposed to be hidden, but is there a way to tell what their speed and other stats are? That way I can get at least some sort of general idea on how to respond.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on April 04, 2015, 10:15:19 AM
You just have to PM the person running the antagonist, they'll at least tell you what your options are.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 04, 2015, 02:43:34 PM
I'm waiting for Puck to appear online before I do any Gintoki post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on April 06, 2015, 11:29:05 PM
OK, we've discussed the situation that Rider is currently in, and we've come to the conclusion that it might be a good idea to retcon everything involving Rider, Faust or Sakura from the point where Sakura ordered Rider to kidnap Shirou. The situation that has evolved is a mess, and I don't think it is something I can RP, and if we continue from here then it's going to be painful for everyone concerned. The whole kidnapping plot will still happen, most likely, but Sakura won't be upset with Rider and will be more likely to trust her in the future.

Doing this would retcon all of my posts with Rider, Bdoom's posts with Faust and Sakura and Dan's posts with Shirou from the post where Rider rejects Sakura's order to kidnap Shirou. Does anyone object to this?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on April 09, 2015, 06:10:17 AM
Just in case you did not know Mil, your good to post Kayneth's reaction to being tossed by demonchild.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on April 10, 2015, 01:06:24 AM
Approvals have been updated with Keji Ki and David Borrus.

Though I'd still really like it if Keji's sheet had some sort of explanation for all the miscellaneous abilities or they were at least kept to a discernable thematic focus. Also find the MMA fighting style and the emphasis it gets in Borrus's sheet kind of out of place compared to everything else.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on April 10, 2015, 11:46:00 PM
Oh my bad I thought I was waiting on Pariah, alright I'll get to posting soon then.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 21, 2015, 07:16:23 PM
I still owe some posts, but I have important IRL stuff to do, so don't mind waiting. At worst I will post tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on April 26, 2015, 07:10:44 PM
Hey just thought it would be best to say it there, but my next post is going to be a few days.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on April 30, 2015, 11:24:12 PM
Finally escaped, for a moment, the insanity that is end-of-the-semester business and posted. I've been working (with a bit of procrastination thrown in, if I'm entirely honest) on essays and projects, which is why I haven't been on skype.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 04, 2015, 03:42:24 AM
Hey Milbunk?

I suggest you post Kayneth soon or I'm giving Knick and Umbra fair game in my authority as a GM. It's been over 48 hours and I have been told you are just holding up the RP now.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on May 04, 2015, 05:34:48 AM
Yo Mil, because of this I am warning you now. You got until tomorrow night until I just post.

You have been warned. Thanks Yolf.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 11, 2015, 03:35:04 AM
So Elf promoted me. I am now allowed to overrule her in times of great need or when she gives no fucks. And as Yolf Master Overruler GM effective, I declare:

Milbunk, have your friend post his secret sheet normally to go through the approval process and get to bloody posting because you're not denying the spine stab.

P.S.: Pardons for not posting myself, I've been feeling really sick all day. I will attempt to post Tar tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on May 11, 2015, 05:05:32 AM
Frankly, this seems like a bit of a dick move to me. Mil agreed this with Elf beforehand, and set something up on that basis. It's completely fucking ridiculous to then turn around to him and say "no, you can't do it, you have to deal with your character being fucking crippled because Knick is an ass and can't accept people not doing things his way".
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on May 11, 2015, 10:58:20 AM
Didn't he agree to anything short of death?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on May 11, 2015, 01:33:43 PM
From what I've heard, Mil agreed to pretty much anything other than perma death, with the stipulation that "If bitten, he bites back."  Or something along the lines of that.

I also appointed YOLF because if work keeps on like it has been (working 52 hours in six days last week whoo!) then I just wanna come home, relax and RP.   Plus I trust YOLF in spades too.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on May 11, 2015, 03:03:48 PM
Didn't he agree to anything short of death?

Yeah, but I think he did so because he knew he could summon a servant if it went too far. Which, admittedly, is a little cheap on Mil's part but, even so, he made his decision on that basis, so changing it seems a bit shitty.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on May 11, 2015, 07:56:25 PM
I'm not a mod but I have to veto this situation and call for an unfair decision here.

This plan has been going on for a while now and had been approved mostly by both YOLF and Elf, they allowed me to go ahead with a summons, they even checked my sheet but when the time came to actually do it then this happens.

I have to say I'm feeling a bit betrayed right now, and it feels a lot like favoritism towards Knick.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 11, 2015, 09:04:19 PM
I never approved the plan - I was simply going along with it because Elf did. In fact, I kind of made my dislike for the secrecy of it that added nothing to the RP known.

You can still evoke the no-kill rule at your leisure, but you also said you'd be fine with anything short of death but would bite back. My ruling literally changes nothing, since I already went over the sheet in private and all that has to be done is posting it so I can approve it as per normal.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on May 11, 2015, 09:07:47 PM
I never approved the plan - I was simply going along with it because Elf did. In fact, I kind of made my dislike for the secrecy of it that added nothing to the RP known.

No, but Elf did approve it, and ultimately it is Elf's RP. Her standing aside and saying "YOLF can now over-rule me" does not excuse going back on that agreement.

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You can still evoke the no-kill rule at your leisure, but you also said you'd be fine with anything short of death but would bite back. My ruling literally changes nothing, since I already went over the sheet in private and all that has to be done is posting it so I can approve it as per normal.

Except that you've denied him the right to respond to Knick's actions, and have insisted that he allow those actions to occur as Knick dictated, despite the rules very explicitly stating that that is not allowed.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on May 11, 2015, 09:18:37 PM
Thank you Mike, he's pretty much said what my concerns were.

The only main reason I even started working with you YOLF was because of Elf's busy nature and I was trying to make sure that things didn't take forever, even after she talked to me about the concern she was still fine with it so I acted as such in the RP.

It's not the fact that I'm being attacked, it's the fact that you have for some reason decided to deny me the chance to respond to this attack, I am fairly certain that is against the rules of the RP, isn't it?

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 11, 2015, 09:25:43 PM
I thought it was a senseless plan to begin with, and was simply respecting Elf's wishes on it. Given the authority to overrule it, I am going to do so because I think it adds nothing to the RP and I am not going to open exceptions on how to treat players for no good reason. The weight of the agreement is not on me - and if Elf did not want me to go back on it, she would've said so when she gave me this position yesterday and I mentioned my intent.

Oh, and if Kayneth can respond to someone who is exponentially more agile than him and was already tossing him around in the context of the situation zooming behind him to stab his spine, be my guest. But if he can't realistically do so, then all I have to say is deal with it. If you have no chance to respond to something another character does to begin with, then no rule is being violated.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on May 11, 2015, 09:37:13 PM
You do realize that this is not a real summon right? I thought those were impossible in Nexus, this is a Servant being brought into the Nexus just after a summoning and then confusing Kayneth as the Master and he accepts.

And yes I would reasonably say that a Servant dropping in like that is reasonable grounds that allow for a reaction.

And just overruling something that was in planning for such a long time is a pretty jerk move. It really does reek of just favoring the other side.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on May 11, 2015, 09:41:31 PM
I thought it was a senseless plan to begin with, and was simply respecting Elf's wishes on it. Given the authority to overrule it, I am going to do so because I think it adds nothing to the RP and I am not going to open exceptions on how to treat players for no good reason. The weight of the agreement is not on me - and if Elf did not want me to go back on it, she would've said so when she gave me this position yesterday and I mentioned my intent.

OK, then that's kind-of Elf's fault. Doesn't make it any more OK....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 11, 2015, 09:50:43 PM
You do realize that this is not a real summon right? I thought those were impossible in Nexus, this is a Servant being brought into the Nexus just after a summoning and then confusing Kayneth as the Master and he accepts.

And yes I would reasonably say that a Servant dropping in like that is reasonable grounds that allow for a reaction.

And just overruling something that was in planning for such a long time is a pretty jerk move. It really does reek of just favoring the other side.

I don't see how it not being an actual summon changes my point.

I disagree, but that would really depend on how the post is written. In other words, have the sheet posted already so I can approve it and that can be judged based on the contents of the post with that Servant showing up, or accept the current outcome and post with Kayneth accordingly.

Jerk move? No, this is me putting something I thought was receiving too much leeway straight.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on May 11, 2015, 10:05:55 PM
If you have a reaction Mil I will be willing to edit my post after you do it. But like, there has to be a line at some point where my attacks actually do anything rather then you constantly reacting and negating them because otherwise this can literally go on forever.

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on May 13, 2015, 06:27:08 PM
Hey, Caster (person playing Medea), I read your post and a few things.

1) "No matter, neither of them were worse than your usual combatant in a Grail War, and the enemies here positively paled in comparison to the truly frightening foes in a Grail War."

Incorrect. Mia is actually at the level of some of the fastest servants. And actually moved at the speed to stab Kayneth. You can't just nope this movement, especially the moment she was summoned. You would have to knock Mia away or something because if you interrupt it basically has to be when Mia lands and is literally about to stab him.

2) She was summoned

There is nothing that would allow the summoning in the area. A summoning without a grail can be hand-waved for the sake of the RP, however the fact that she was summoned when there is no magical circle of any kind even present in the area they are in makes it literally impossible and goes a bit to far.

3) You assume success of the wind wall.

Basically as said, you assumed it would work and Mia can't either A) React, B) Dodge, or etc.

4) Her identifying 2 opponents.

There is no way to know this and is not someone as smart as Medea would determine immediately. Neither one is magical and PARIAH does not even have a soul I think, he is just a virus. No reason to view the two as separate entities until evidence presents itself. Also, Pariah is literally the building and not a figure in the hall.

5) Her back was to Kayenth

Hilariously you put her in a situation in which Mia is already about to stab Kayneth in the back, and you don't even have her face Kayneth. Also, again with the assumption. Mia is faster and if they were in a situation where they were facing one another, Mia would just blitz her and stab her. She can do that in the time it would take to raise a hand and say a word, especially because you did not put any mention of the speed of that action.

So ya, here are some problems with the post. There is reacting to the post and then there is completely ignoring my post happened.

Please put more thought into it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Milbunk on May 15, 2015, 12:35:33 AM
I've been thinking things through a lot, and after talking to Caster and a few other people I think I've made a decision in regards to my future for this RP and I think it would be in everyone's best interests if I stopped this rendition of Kayneth and stop posting altogether for a while.

It might be for a few weeks or it might be permanently but this non-stop bickering is helping no one and I hate making people bitter over something stupid.

As for you Yolf I do think it might help if in the future you try to lighten up the rules just a little bit and be more lenient towards people, this is meant to be a fun RP after all!

And knick sorry for wasting your time like this but Mia and Kayneth were a bad match to begin with. Though I do think you were stringing me along a little bit I probably could have put a little more thought into my posts to prevent the situation from happening in the first place.

I'll leave SHIKI as a possibility and I might redo Kayneth as well but for this particular rendition of Kayneth I'll leave up to knick's decision, this Kayneth is completely under knick's control from this point on. Get rid of him, take him over, turn him into a npc, give him to another player, whatever you want it's up you.

I might be back or I might not, only time will tell. I just wanted to apologize and I recommend that people try to lighten up a bit.

Cy'all later!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on May 15, 2015, 12:53:41 AM
>redoing Kayneth

That sounds like chickening out without taking consequences.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on May 15, 2015, 01:07:47 AM
I've been thinking things through a lot, and after talking to Caster and a few other people I think I've made a decision in regards to my future for this RP and I think it would be in everyone's best interests if I stopped this rendition of Kayneth and stop posting altogether for a while.

It might be for a few weeks or it might be permanently but this non-stop bickering is helping no one and I hate making people bitter over something stupid.

As for you Yolf I do think it might help if in the future you try to lighten up the rules just a little bit and be more lenient towards people, this is meant to be a fun RP after all!

And knick sorry for wasting your time like this but Mia and Kayneth were a bad match to begin with. Though I do think you were stringing me along a little bit I probably could have put a little more thought into my posts to prevent the situation from happening in the first place.

I'll leave SHIKI as a possibility and I might redo Kayneth as well but for this particular rendition of Kayneth I'll leave up to knick's decision, this Kayneth is completely under knick's control from this point on. Get rid of him, take him over, turn him into a npc, give him to another player, whatever you want it's up you.

I might be back or I might not, only time will tell. I just wanted to apologize and I recommend that people try to lighten up a bit.

Cy'all later!

Don't come back.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on May 15, 2015, 01:22:17 AM
Mil, just to get this straight.

After gave you warning and asked you what as acceptable, and you say anything, you are leaving because it does not work out the way YOU want.

You blame literally everyone but yourself for this, because obviously everyone else has a problem and you were handling it perfectly. Also you said your leaving for the sake of others, which is bullcrap because you are the one causing an issue that can be avoided if you just posted faster and let the situation be resolved.

As for the Kayneth and Mia being a "bad match" point, it is idiotic. Mainly because the interaction the two were going to have was an antagonistic/hostile one. Mia was acting as a tormenter, someone who wants Kayneth to suffer, the degree of which was to be determined by how 'entertained', she was by their interactions. Kayneth's actions just happened to be boring and not entertain her in the slightest. If this is IC that is perfectly fine, it is not against you in anyway, it is just how the cookie crumbles.

Stop making excuses, stop acting like your morally justified with this, all you have done is spit on everyone in the RP, spit on mine and Umbra's efforts, and spit on the GMs who worked to try and figure out the whole issue you seemed to be making of the interaction that was about to fucking end.

Get over yourself.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on May 15, 2015, 01:27:10 AM
More like see you never, Mil.

Your attitude in leaving is obnoxiously horrendous. You're condescending to knick and yolf, you blame others for your shortcomings in writing comprehension and ability (Blaming Knick for poor interaction between Kayneth and Mia) and you tried the "better man" card by leaving "To not make others upset" and maintain this fake high ground by way of  "I-apologize-BUT". To which well I'm sorry but get over yourself man.

Don't come back.
And praise the Lord.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 15, 2015, 03:15:50 AM
No one here has lighten up, Milbunk. You have to stop assuming yourself to be the better man when you can't deal with things not going exactly your way or work on the standards everyone else does. And quit avoiding things when they prove too inconvenient for you. Grow up.

All else that needed to be said has already been, so good riddance. I do not care that you are leaving.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on May 15, 2015, 11:20:07 AM
Yup, 'good luck' with that soon to be dead Grail War RP. No one at BL treats your quests and memecontests seriously anyway. :p
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on May 15, 2015, 07:03:13 PM
OK, since Kat is being a biased fascist prick on Skype, I'd like to point out that my Shirou is already posted, and that it would be rather unfair to just suddenly say without warning that a Shirou posted later should get approval first even if I fix my Shirou.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 15, 2015, 08:02:09 PM
I don't think any of the GMs even spoke up on the matter lol.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on May 15, 2015, 08:52:02 PM
inb4 he never fixes it

I won't be online tomorrow, or at least unable to post here, so I'm reminding Elf that she is due Abigail. If I don't see Abigail post on Sunday evening I'll skip her, more than 48 hours have passed already.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 22, 2015, 04:26:58 AM
Right, so about that Shirou sheet Mike.

Quote
Projection: Shirou excels at projecting items, especially swords.
Reinforcement: Can reinforce almost anything exceptionally well, including himself.
Unlimited Blade Works: After much training, Shirou has learnt to use his Reality Marble, although his lack of prana means it is difficult to maintain it for as long as he otherwise could.

Okay look I know you expect people to know what these do, but everyone else with a Shirou or Archer sheet actually bothered to explain his magecraft, so you have no excuse to be lazy here. Just copy paste from Calico or EMIYA's sheet.

The invisibility cloak... I talked it over with the other GMs, and I'm sorry but you're going to have to remove it. We don't think it really makes any sense for Shirou to have, among other lesser concerns.

The guns and the rest of his gear are fine.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on May 22, 2015, 04:32:31 AM
The invisibility cloak... I talked it over with the other GMs, and I'm sorry but you're going to have to remove it. We don't think it really makes any sense for Shirou to have, among other lesser concerns.

Why? What makes you say it doesn't make sense? I mean, do you know a damn thing about the physics behind it? Because I actually do, and I think it makes perfect sense. And, it's something I really like the idea of.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 22, 2015, 04:47:29 AM
Sense for Shirou to have. Read what I said properly before you start accusing me of not knowing physics.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on May 22, 2015, 05:09:48 AM
Sense for Shirou to have. Read what I said properly before you start accusing me of not knowing physics.

But, the physics behind it is part of that. It's not something that I'd expect to be that difficult to get hold of in his time period (the un-reinforced version is not that great) and, whilst Shirou does not explicitly use stealth, having the capacity to do so is still nice, and this Shirou is not someone who spends all his time fighting.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on May 22, 2015, 09:43:28 PM
As Dan arranged it, I was meant to post Mordred reacting in time to Emily's attempt and then Panda was meant to edit the post in response, but Elf and Magos skipped me without waiting for me. So, as one of users, SINIB, suggested to me, I ask Magos and Elf to delete their Abigail and Law posts unless there is better solution.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on May 23, 2015, 04:47:06 AM
OK, well, I "fixed" Shirou's sheet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 23, 2015, 08:20:47 PM
That is much, much better. I point out however:

> Shirou can reinforce almost anything exceptionally well, including himself.

This is technically incorrect, as the only thing he's exceptional at Reinforcing are things that fit in the theme of UBW. In other words, melee weapons. Edit that and you're good to go.

(http://i.imgur.com/5S6riBD.jpg)

> However, a shot to the head is still capable of killing him, if he does not have time to self-reinforce and/or dodge it.

Even if he's reinforced, a shot to the head with a high caliber firearm that actually strikes his skull head on will probably kill him anyways, I would say. Just wanted to comment on that.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on May 23, 2015, 08:45:08 PM
That is much, much better. I point out however:

> Shirou can reinforce almost anything exceptionally well, including himself.

This is technically incorrect, as the only thing he's exceptional at Reinforcing are things that fit in the theme of UBW. In other words, melee weapons. Edit that and you're good to go.

*Sigh*, fine....

I disagree 100% with this and think you are absolutely wrong, but since you are the GM and are completely unwilling to let me decide on my own characters, I guess I will have to just go with it....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on May 23, 2015, 09:11:28 PM
OK, fine, I've changed the sheet to fit with your interpretation of canon.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on May 23, 2015, 09:28:55 PM
Quote
Fate/Side Material - Encyclopedia: Reinforcement [Magecraft], p.058-059

Reinforcement [Magecraft]
An elementary spell that was extremely difficult to master.
Even though elevating the target's existence through the infusion of mana was the basis of all magecraft, due to the high degree of freedom and lack of concrete protocols, there were very few users who could reinforce everything.
Shirou of course was only a half-baked user who could only reinforce weapon-related objects.
Since Reinforcement enhanced the target's meaning of existence, knives would become sharper, food would become more nutritious, and maids would become more moe.
It was impossible to reinforce something that was exceedingly vague.
By the way, it was difficult to infuse another living being with one's mana, thus Reinforcement of another human was a spell of highest difficulty.

Quote
Thaumaturgy: C-
During his life time, the sorceries learned by Emiya are unremarkable. Before becoming a Heroic Spirit, even “reinforcement” was quite difficult. However, the “projection” sorcery he wields is quite special, as it is able to duplicate weapons, including all the components, to near perfection. In addition, during duplication, he can even read the wielder’s skills, which allows him to gain all kinds of Noble Phantasms and combat skills.
During his life time, Emiya used the preliminary step of projection – “structural analysis”, to find the location of an item’s fault and proceed with repair.

It's not like he's basing it off of nothing. No need to be so sour about it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 24, 2015, 12:17:21 AM
You picked a strange way to phrase the edit*, but okay. Approved. Just, saying it's the one area in which he is competent is wrong because he is actually very good at the Projection of, again, melee weapons.

*I'm not sure if you're doing this on purpose or not. Did I tell you to change the stats? Because I didn't, which should tell you I don't actually have a problem with the listed effects of his self-Reinforcement. But it's still a fact that his Reinforcement is only above average when used on weapons. At any rate, he's approved now.

P.S.: I noticed Magos's EMIYA sheet is actually lacking any elaboration on what Projection and Reinforcement do, so please edit some explanations in even though it was approved before my time if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on May 24, 2015, 01:12:32 AM
You picked a strange way to phrase the edit*, but okay. Approved. Just, saying it's the one area in which he is competent is wrong because he is actually very good at the Projection of, again, melee weapons.

Well, the two are the same basic type of magic.

And, it's not just melee weapons that Shirou is good at projecting. For example, he projected kettles that he just left in his shed, and which nearly gave Rin a heart attack when he explained them because it was not something she expected (in particular, how long they lasted). Melee weapons are his speciality, yeah, but he can also do other things somewhat better than a normal magus could.

Quote
*I'm not sure if you're doing this on purpose or not. Did I tell you to change the stats? Because I didn't, which should tell you I don't actually have a problem with the listed effects of his self-Reinforcement. But it's still a fact that his Reinforcement is only above average when used on weapons. At any rate, he's approved now.

I'm not sure what you mean here. I didn't remove anything aside from the bit saying he excelled at reinforcement (which you said was wrong).
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 24, 2015, 01:50:09 AM
"Actually very good at X" doesn't exclude him being good at Y. :V

And that paragraph is just me expressing my exasperation at your phrasing still emphasizing his self-reinforcement (even after i told you to change it) when I didn't tell you to correct the stat increase the sheet indicates it would give Shirou. But as I said, it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on May 24, 2015, 03:42:27 AM
"Actually very good at X" doesn't exclude him being good at Y. :V

No, true. The way you said it (and the stuff you've been saying about his reinforcement abilities) made me think you did mean that, though.

Quote
And that paragraph is just me expressing my exasperation at your phrasing still emphasizing his self-reinforcement (even after i told you to change it) when I didn't tell you to correct the stat increase the sheet indicates it would give Shirou. But as I said, it doesn't matter.

I wanted to make it clear that he could self-reinforce so you wouldn't tell me later that he couldn't. Honestly, I didn't even think of the stat increase part, I was focussing only on the parts he could change.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on May 26, 2015, 04:35:59 AM
I'm leaving. Sorry for the lack of notice. Goodbye
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Puck-Chan on May 26, 2015, 05:11:56 AM
SCRUBBED BY KAZE: None of that, Puck. Let's keep things civil.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on May 26, 2015, 01:20:59 PM
Panda left?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on May 26, 2015, 11:17:34 PM
Crap. Panda had messaged me about posting Than'Sanel ASAP so Adjutor wasn't just standing around for too long, but I've been reading fanfic stuff and having Skype problems.
Damn. Hope I didn't wind up discouraging Panda even further.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on May 28, 2015, 11:00:44 PM
I'm waiting for Magos or Elf to post in Mordred/Abigail/Emily/Law situation and 48 hours has passed. I'll likely skip if I don't see any update by late Friday, especially as I want to move on with Mordred.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on May 30, 2015, 02:26:35 PM
Just got my laptop back from being cleaned up. Seems I'll need to save up money from a job I'm getting to get a new one.
Which means very little good for me posting here - in the long run. That and Skype isn't doing that great either. :/
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on May 31, 2015, 05:26:47 AM
TheUnknownHero, your latest Shirou post is frankly, completely and unabashedly terrible. There are multiple egregious grammar and typographical errors, none of Shirou’s actions make any sense in the slightest, you spastically switched between past and present tense in the middle of sentences, and it’s glaringly evident that you really didn’t read most, if any, of the preceding posts with any level of care.

Quote from: Shirou
The mysterious helmet informs the boy of the obviously that this place was indeed Matou Sakura's house but also told him a little bit about the nature of the Nexus. Just as helmet was about to reveal it's name to Shirou it paused for a second. The boy looked at the helmet confused as to what it was thinking when it finally responded by asking Rider what was happening. Rider responded by saying she wasn't sure but that she was going to check it out. Since it looked like Sakura could be in danger the boy's concern quickly shifted to her.

This entire paragraph is of exceptionally poor quality, but the first sentence in particular is notably worse. First off, the word obviously is an adverb, meaning it modifies another word and as a result, can not be used on its own as you have here. However, even ignoring this, the sentence has other big issues as well. It’s a massive run on sentence, and would greatly benefit from the addition of strategically placed commas and/or splitting it into multiple sentences altogether.

In this paragraph, Shirou is acting out of character in the extreme. Sakura was making an absurd amount of noise, which you’d have known had you read the relevant post of hers.
Quote from: Sakura
Sakura dropped what she was doing and ran down the stairs with a rage and terror akin to that of a cornered animal. [...] “No!” She yelled. [...] as she tore down the stairs to the hidden basement. [...] she therefore darted around the corner and into the dark penetralia of the house without a second thought.
“Who!” She yelled at the intruder with acrimony, true malice filling her entire being.
Any of these should have been enough to warrent a serious reaction on its own, let alone all of them combined. However instead of reacting, or even noticing such clearly abnormal behavior from Sakura, Shirou didn’t even make note of anything out of the ordinary until Vanguard reacted and Rider left to go investigate. He was actually confused as to why Vanguard had stopped talking instead!



Quote from: Shirou
The boy then rushes toward the woman he loves to check if she is okay. As he approaches her, he noticed Rider and Rin were with her along with someone who looked similar to him.

"Hey is everyone alright, I take it that person who looks like me is who all the commotion is about."

The boy was rather ammused by the idea that he'd meet two versions of himself in this crazy world in one day.

FIrst off, they’re in the former wormpit, which has been since converted to a basement, and is also nearly pitch black inside, which makes me question how in the world he managed to see anything but maybe Rin or Rider. Sakura didn’t realize it was Mike’s Shirou who had been captured until she was right up next to him, and Rin reinforced her eyes. You should have known both of these facts had you even skimmed any of the relevant posts, which is important when you write a response.

And again, I question why Shirou is so calm about meeting another version of himself. I had issues with this back when he met Kaze’s Shirou as well, and now regret not bringing them up then. I think people would generally be surprised at meeting an alternate version of themselves, and most definitely wouldn’t expect a response such as this, where he just totally brushes over this entire situation.

More importantly, however, this is really just part of a bigger problem with your role-playing of Shirou. He’s been incredibly passive, numb even, in just about every single situation he’s been in so far. Nothing seems to faze him excluding that one time he made an off comment about Angra Mainyu while Sakura was trying to take Kaze’s Shirou into protective custody. Every other time, he’s taken all the strangeness in stride without even a hint of faltering.

Finally, and this is omnipresent in the post, you switched between the present and past tenses at random, which is something that should not be done in any circumstances. It makes it extremely difficult to read and makes everything extremely confusing. Even switching between sentences is considered very poor form, and you’ve neurotically gone back and forth almost every other verb.

If you’re going to participate in this RP, you should at least put in the minimum amount of effort into your posts. If you can’t even be bothered to read the relevant posts, you’re really just wasting both your and everyone involved’s time. I think you need to completely rewrite the post from the ground up, this time after you read the posts leading up to it and making Shirou act significantly more in character. As it is now, it's simply just absolutely worthless, and actively harms the role-playing experience of everyone else involved.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 31, 2015, 06:29:11 AM
Sinib's post above has a lot of pertinent detail put into it, so I recommend giving it some careful consideration, UnknownHero.

In other news, I have a public service announcement from the GMs! We're tweaking the CE Attribute Scale by renaming the Supernatural and Superhuman ranks and making the boundaries of each level hopefully a bit more clear. This shouldn't require any actual changes to the sheets for most people, only switching "Supernatural" and "Superhuman" for the new terms.

Cross Effects Patch 3.1.0: The Infested Sewers

Patch Notes:
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on May 31, 2015, 01:35:26 PM
I won't rework sheets until I'm done with all the urgent RL projects.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on May 31, 2015, 02:39:54 PM
That's fine. It's not a super high priority thing, it's a set of changes for clarification.

When/if we have time and some people don't, me and Kaze may get to editing the sheets that are simple replacement jobs just to make the transition smoother.

IMPORTANT EDIT:

Also, people, don't make this complicated just because of the Servant comment, the scale hasn't really changed. The Incredible (former Supernatural) range was slightly shortened on the upper end and slightly extended on the lower end because its intended power was made more transparent.

There should be no reason to even consider changing the stats of most characters. Just change the name of the rank for the new one. Always err on the side of keeping it the same, and if you really think otherwise, talk to a GM about it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on June 13, 2015, 02:03:29 AM
> Aisha's request to Adjutor's Elementals makes them devastate a mall

you people just love giving Sarse headaches
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on June 13, 2015, 01:35:05 PM
Are we talking a headache in the next post from sensing something, or a headache when he sees what's left of the mall?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on June 14, 2015, 01:37:48 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on June 18, 2015, 04:48:47 AM
Sooooo, I'm going to be off for the next few days because of MOVING.

I won't have access to internet and I apologize.  I should be back on line on Monday, so do try to behave.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on June 24, 2015, 04:09:23 PM
Cross Effects General Announcement: Antagonists Are Coming to Town

In about a week's time, I will be posting my antagonist event for those who wish to join, and depending on his schedule Knick's event will be hitting full swing in the near future as well. It is highly encouraged (although not mandatory) for people to free up their characters to be able to participate when the pain train pulls into the station. Bare in mind that while you don't have to participate, allowing antagonists to go about as they please may have significant consequences for the RP as a whole. The Nexus' fate is in your hands. No pressure!

On a more technical note, I will be editing all character sheets that have not yet been adjusted to reflect the new attribute scale implemented by YOLF in patch 3.1.0. I will only be switching Supernatural and Superhuman for Incredible and Fantastic respectively, so if you think that the new clarifications on the scale warrant an actual change in the attribute, PM myself or another GM to discuss it.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on June 24, 2015, 05:00:37 PM
On a more technical note, I will be editing all character sheets that have not yet been adjusted to reflect the new attribute scale implemented by YOLF in patch 3.1.0. I will only be switching Supernatural and Superhuman for Incredible and Fantastic respectively, so if you think that the new clarifications on the scale warrant an actual change in the attribute, PM myself or another GM to discuss it.

Well, I think that it probably makes sense to set Rider to be all "Fantastic" stats, because otherwise we get into the "servant ranks" argument again, which YOLF specifically wanted to avoid.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 24, 2015, 06:49:08 PM
As long as it doesn't interfere too much with Operation Hunt Forest, I don't mind events.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on June 26, 2015, 09:56:33 AM
Well, I think that it probably makes sense to set Rider to be all "Fantastic" stats, because otherwise we get into the "servant ranks" argument again, which YOLF specifically wanted to avoid.

I feel Rider's in that grey zone right between Incredible and Fantastic, but for the sake of ease sure, she's Fantastic.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kaze on June 26, 2015, 10:19:08 AM
So, I went through and edited all the remaining current character sheets that needed updating, and I realized that there are a lot of sheets belonging to dead or abandoned characters hanging around. I'd like to de-clutter the thread, so I'll give a day or two for anyone who wants to save their old sheets or move them to the Graveyard thread, then I'll start deleting posts.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on June 28, 2015, 10:20:13 PM
I'm going to be at the beach this week so posting may or may not be slow.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on July 08, 2015, 02:50:34 PM
On one note, I would like to say I would really like it if you were to stop having your characters just assume things when there are no reasons to, ok Kat? Like with the Suiren thing Just never confirmed or denied it, he was just talking with Kern until he told you to leave,and if you want to say, "it was a logical assumption", the only thing Just did was raise an eyebrow, which could also be seen as "wtf are you talking about" rather then "omg how did he know it was Suiren".  Also with your mage assuming the life person was the progenitor of mankind when they could just be a demon, or god, or something else, I mean seriously.

Second, now all three of you at the blockade are fucked, blame Gin for continuing to talk rather then taking the bone Just threw him.

So please don't post your guys until I have a chance to post.

However, because I want to get the group moving so they can be at night,if you change your post i might not wreck all your shits.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: yinsukin on July 13, 2015, 04:02:09 AM
I have an announcement.  I will be leaving the RP as soon as possible.  I have been pondering this decision for months.  I don't really like how the community deals with matters of the RP.  Keeping things broad, I also don't like the.... dynamic of the chat.  It feels like no one is willing to deal with one another and talk things out.  Or sometimes it can be impossible to do so.

Anyway, if my statement bugs you too much just pm me; or don't.  I feel its kinda rude to just leave without wraping up my characters.  So I will stay until they all finish their little character arcs/ situations or die.  Just know that non of my characters have magic CE plot armor.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on July 13, 2015, 02:26:08 PM
A little constructive criticism and already folding.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: yinsukin on July 14, 2015, 01:47:29 PM
I have said it before in the chat but I would like to make a public apology to Knick and Franco.  I am sorry for overreacting and excessive use of CAPS lock.  I will be continuing to RP as long as my characters remain relevant.  I won't make any excuses, only ask for forgiveness.  Also just in advance, i might be over doing it with the apology so if for some reason that in itself is annoying my bad.

On the subject of posting itself.  My posting will be a bit on and off for the next few days but I will try my best to get something out so I don't stall things more than I already have.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on July 28, 2015, 05:15:15 PM
Hamara Antagonist Event, “The White Sun Consecration” will be released soon.

Patch Notes
5 New Instances
-   The “Nexus Reconstruction” Corporate Building
o   A beautiful piece of engineering, a large skyscraper which has an open area in the center for relaxation and lunch surrounded by the building on three sides.
o   Within the Center is the source of one of the White Suns which now hover within the sky.  The courtyard is otherwise empty.
o   What Trials await you here? No recommendations, this one is a surprise.
o   An experience not like the others.

-   Viper Den
o   And underground Club which is found in a series of tunnels and rooms under a warehouse.  Light now exits from the ground to feed the White Sun, particularly though the entrances, revealing itself to the world.
o   Traps guard the way to the source of the White Sun originating from this location, but be warned, any who enter here might be in fact simply be pray.
o   Recommended to those with great reflexes, speed, or amazing senses.

-   Matou Construction Site
o   Not related to everyone’s favored worm magus, simply a coincidence.
o   A construction site in which is filled with numerous pieces of heavy machinery and partially constructed foundations and walls.
o   Within the center sits the source of the White Sun within the area, and it is guarded by a singular man dressed in armor.
o   The perimeter is surrounded by numerous guards, however it should not be hard to slip though, especially if one is supernaturally capable.
o   Recommended for those with versatile skillsets, or ones that can be used in many ways. 

-   Rogers’ Theater
o   A Theater for the preforming arts, in which the source of the White Sun is located upon the stage.
o   No guards within sight, however a man sits in front of the source, accepting all who would come to fight him.
o   Here your skill will truly be tested. Recommended to not come alone.

-   The Saint
o   On top of a skyscraper the Saint sits, and from here the White Sun is maintained and controlled.
o   If he is defeated the sun itself will vanish
o   Recommended to not face, even with advantage numbers.

General Terrain Effect
As a general trait of all of these areas, abilities which are not human in pure nature are weakened, those of inhuman nature have their physical abilities weakened, while magic and the like is more difficult to maintain decreasing ability to use it.
   
The structures in each of the areas are infused with the truth of humanity, which means breaking though needs incredible force from a nonhuman source, however to a human source of power it is as durable as any other wall.
   
Finally, those of inhuman nature which are also beings that are ‘alive’ suffer from slight damage and pain from remaining in these areas. Remaining within it for massive periods of time is highly not recommended, however it should not be an issue due to the duration of the event.

Disclaimer:
As an additional note about my upcoming antagonist event, I would like to say that anyone who enters the event loses most of the protection PCs inherently have.

This is a dangerous situation, and while I will not kill anyone, there might be serious ramifications should people get screwed over at one of the sites. As such, serious wounds are not protected against; if you go to these events please note you will have to anticipate the possibility of serious injury. This even can, depending on how your character acts within it, have serious impacts on them.

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on August 11, 2015, 04:14:03 PM
So, about characters pending approval.

I don't really like Acacius being so established he has the resources he does, even if he doesn't have the ridiculous amount of shit he had before. Buuut there are other characters with comparable assets (not that I'm very fond of those examples either), so I'll close an eye for now to that.

I have a problem with the effects of his main ability extending beyond himself. The ability affecting his actions? Yes that's fine and makes perfect sense. Direct interactions with him? Yep, also works.

Literally everything that happens within 10 meters of him even if he's not directly influenced by it? That I'm not okay with. It's potentially really disruptive and exploitative and can lead to some ridiculous loop situations. I don't see any good reason for the power to work like that, since it doesn't particularly add anything to the character and might just become frustrating to the other players or overpowered for no good reason. It makes sense for himself to be included in the ability since it's an conceptual emanation of his desire, but affecting anything outside of him seems like stretching it bar a really good justification. It's also explained like an "internal" ability and sounds like one, rather than an "external" power.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on September 21, 2015, 02:01:09 PM
Am I the only one who Skype has just up and quit for?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on September 21, 2015, 03:23:02 PM
Am I the only one who Skype has just up and quit for?

Hmm, no, I seem not to be able to connect to anyone either....
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on September 27, 2015, 02:34:08 AM
HAMARA ANTAGONIST EVENT IS A GO!

Read the info post on this page for more info.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on September 27, 2015, 08:43:03 AM
Thankfully Nexus time is fluid, I won't be railroaded into slowposting any soon.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on October 04, 2015, 01:27:02 PM
Elf, please post Saber.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on October 05, 2015, 04:07:51 AM
Seiba has been posted!
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on October 05, 2015, 01:38:54 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on October 13, 2015, 07:37:10 PM
Please post Saber, Elf, and hopefully a much longer post than the previous.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on October 15, 2015, 05:07:10 PM
Irisviel has been becoming tedious for a long while, and I've decided to drop her. Because she's stuck in a situation for the forseeable future, and killing her would mess up multiple people's rping, she'll be becoming an NPC from this point forward. I've talked this over with the GMs and everyone involved, and this was the decision we came up with. From this point forward she will have no plot armour, and thus can be killed without consent, although I'd rather people not do this unless they have a reason to for the aforementioned reasons.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on October 16, 2015, 02:01:40 PM
elf, please don't skip me next time mkay? And while I acknowedged your last post, the whole part where she turns around didn't happen since vanny acted before she could. Mmkay?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: MissingMandible on October 17, 2015, 04:47:46 PM
Will catch up on my posts tonight. Been away due to combination of work and my nephew being born.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: yinsukin on October 22, 2015, 11:44:51 PM
So quick little announcement. I am removing Roxas's certified CE plot armour.  I am a bit bored with him and want to make room for more interesting, fun to play characters in the future.  That being said, I am not dropping him outright.  I want to give him a decent ending, whatever that may be.  I just want to create a fun close ended scenario where he can either live a happy life within the Nexus, die like a man or maybe even something bitter sweet or tragic.  Whatever anyone has in mind will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on October 23, 2015, 04:55:30 PM
I will be doing all my posts tonight most likely, just so you all know.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on October 23, 2015, 10:24:32 PM
Emperor's Hammer, you're due a post. If you don't respond in another 24 hours we have skipping rights.

Also if you promise to not be a shitter in the main chat we can let you back in.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on October 28, 2015, 01:16:59 AM
My Skype experience problems for unknown reason, seeing that I can post here just fine, so I rule out internet problems.

If you have any issue, just post here or PM.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on October 28, 2015, 10:03:08 PM
Considering that it has been a little while and Aisha is leaving within a few posts she has been NPCed for the short duration she has left in the RP as I replace her.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: MissingMandible on October 30, 2015, 05:35:28 AM
Will catch up with my posts either Friday morning or night after work.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 12, 2015, 09:04:54 PM
Knick, seeing as you managed to get on today, I've decided that if you don't post or give a reason for your absence by tomorrow I'm going to start skipping you with Noel.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 13, 2015, 03:15:25 PM
Dan, please post Calico, Ur needs to be freed up.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 14, 2015, 05:02:43 PM
Knick, seeing as you managed to get on today, I've decided that if you don't post or give a reason for your absence by tomorrow I'm going to start skipping you with Noel.

Seeing as it's already been said, I suppose I might as well offer the same proposition. If you can't get some kind of explanation for your absence some time today, I'm just going to go with what was going on in your last Crest post and time-skip him to sleep so as to free up Emily.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 17, 2015, 01:38:15 AM
Okay, so GM declaration: Knick, if you doesn't post tonight the RP has to move on and we'll carry on to the next day chronologically. If you do, one of the GMs (whomever is still online in the chat) will discuss the matter that the event needs to stop dragging pretty much the whole narrative down and set down the circumstances in which it IC dies or fails for Hamara and co, if you're still counting on being busy and or unavailable or unable to post for some reason for an extended time.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 17, 2015, 05:04:31 AM
Midnight strikes, and to advance the plot I must act.

To renew itself, this world will have to find a future where it ends, and harvest it.

Only then, will it find a Causality Crack to break the fallacies before it.

The wheel of fate is turning.

Rebel against your fates, young ones.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 17, 2015, 03:39:16 PM
Rest in peace Hamara Event.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 17, 2015, 10:08:17 PM
Also, in light of the honestly kind of bloated and stagnated example that the recent Antagonist Event was, we will not be having those for a bit.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 17, 2015, 10:08:55 PM
Based
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 18, 2015, 02:51:04 PM
I don't mind individual encounters with Antags, but this is a reasonable motion.

Also, my sis took her laptop back for next 6 hours, please bear with my toaster's Skype loading backlogs for hours.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 19, 2015, 03:12:01 AM
I am dropping Tenma and replacing her with another guy. SHe was growing a bit stale on me and I didn't really enjoy playing her that much. Seems like she was a neat idea, but her execution just isn't something I feel confident in pulling off. Thus, I grant her npc status.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 21, 2015, 09:24:06 PM
I shall post late tonight, for I have an appointment.

Akatsuki shall be done
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on November 24, 2015, 01:20:51 PM
I will be offline Tuesday and possibly Wednesday night.   I should be back on by Thursday.  Thanksgiving traveling.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 25, 2015, 04:14:41 AM
Sepulchure

Sepulchure launched an enormous black ball of death and DOOM at the doughnut shop, which was annihilated instantaneously.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT SHOP REALLY DESERVED THAT, DIDN'T IT, SERVING THAT CONCOCTION OF DEATHLY GOOD PASTRIES. GOOD THING WE DESTROYED IT AND EVERYONE IN IT, JUST TO RUIN THEIR DAY!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:"



OOC: Sepulchure antag event start.

Shinobu

All the Vampire knew was darkness, then she was no more. Torn away from this world by a power beyond her imagination, a dark terrible power that would surely terrorize the citizens for years to come. However such matters was of little concern to those already departed.

And this, it seems, is why we can't have nice things.
are you fucking cerial panda
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Thedoctor on November 25, 2015, 04:17:49 AM
He's not the one who experienced the darkness first hand.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 25, 2015, 09:55:29 PM
So for reasons I've already stated in the Skype chat I'll be dropping PARIAH and the antag slot. Go nuts with flooding YOLF's inbox.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 25, 2015, 10:42:41 PM
So for reasons I've already stated in the Skype chat I'll be dropping PARIAH and the antag slot. Go nuts with flooding YOLF's inbox.
can I flood it too
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 26, 2015, 09:35:46 AM
No, no two Antags per player.

scarycrest.jpg
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 27, 2015, 09:43:00 PM
>implying I asked for a single one more.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 27, 2015, 10:15:51 PM
>Vlad The Implyer
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 27, 2015, 10:32:29 PM
He died last night
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on November 27, 2015, 11:18:27 PM
It has come to the attention of the GMs in a recent group deliberation and sorting of affairs left pending until now that there is a problem with Knick's antagonist character, Hamara. A big problem.

Due to some oversight on part of the current GMs, none of us had actually given Hamara's character sheet - which was approved as an antagonist when Elf was still head GM - careful appraisal (or even seen it, for some of us) until now. This was both due to us believing in prior judgement, and trusting Knick to run his antagonist and related developments fairly, not wanting to ruin things for ourselves narrative wise by ways of spoilers.

That trust, however, has been breached. Hamara's character sheet proper as was submitted and approved is lacking a great amount of what he has shown in the RP so far, and is grossly inaccurate or directly contradictory to much in the way he has been played so far. A great deal of Hamara's capabilities and resources have seemingly been added to the character over time without GM scrutiny or been altered significantly from the sheet, again without explicit permission.

This is inadmissible and incredibly disappointing. I apologize to everyone who has complained about Hamara in the past or butted heads in regards to the questionable details of the now stopped event for this blunder on my part. It was a painful miss of my responsibilities to not make myself privy to the full details of the antagonists when I became Head GM.

To Knick, I'm sorry to say, but you are not allowed to continue with Hamara. He is now removed from the antagonist position, and your ability to apply for further Antagonists permanently revoked.

(http://i.imgur.com/GFN6tra.jpg)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on November 28, 2015, 10:57:47 PM
This will be quite a surprise for him to come back to.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on November 28, 2015, 11:32:47 PM
Assuming he comes back
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on November 29, 2015, 04:19:31 AM
So a decision has actually been made on the addition of a fifth sheet. If a player who has already shown they can be active in the RP over time commits to keep up with posting and not spread themselves thin, a fifth character slot will be allowed for them.

This fifth sheet may be revoked if they slow down sufficiently to drag out the RP.

This is a Theion approved message.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 21, 2015, 11:26:18 AM
I figured out I don't have as much fun with Gintoki as I wanted, and he's kinda in a spot where he could be easily retconed out, so I'm dropping him. Franco and Nachos can disregard knocking, and I will try to post a replacement sheet soon, since I have an idea whom I want to play.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on December 27, 2015, 06:25:57 AM
So sinib is having dsm problems on his phone, so he's asked me to post for him. The post is word per word, so don't worry about authenticity.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 27, 2015, 07:32:56 PM
You know you can post as another user, right? As in, you can make your posts appear as if they're coming from someone else. I've done it for Bdoom before. It's a little less confusing that having you post as one of his characters, I think.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on December 27, 2015, 10:50:11 PM
tbh that sounds like effort and it's too late now. I mean, I posted in the gd and everything to let people know, it should be fine

I will keep it in mind though.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 27, 2015, 11:20:07 PM
Yeah, there's no point changing it now, but it's really not effort. You just have to enter a user's name into the "Post as alternative user" box.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on December 30, 2015, 05:15:13 AM
Allright Break there is a great, great deal wrong with your sheet. in a word, it’s shit. Total and complete garbage. The only thing that is okay about the sheet is the name and appearance sections. But don’t worry, I’m gonna tell you exactly.

Ok, so, first off, there are immense issues with spelling and grammar. Countless sentences aren’t capitalized, and there are several misspelled words throughout.
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Race: human/homunculus
What does this mean? The way you’ve described it in the origin is just a normal homunculi, really. If there’s a significant difference, you need to explain how and why, preferrably in other abilities.
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Physical attributes

Strength: Human

Agility: exceptional

constitution: exceptional

magic scale: Extremely high
You need to capitalize the stat names exceptional. But more importantly, literally nothing he has justifies an Extremely High rank in magic. That’s reserved for the best of the best, the most ridiculous of the most ridiculous, people who had ridiculously powerful magic and are also ridiculously versatile. You need to rethink the rank you gave him.

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Other abilities:

Deduction: the innate talent of the "detective" made manifest and honed over many supernatural and mundane cases, the ability to think outside of the box and solve seemingly unsolvable crimes. Somewhat lessened in the case of mundane crimes due to a magus' common sense.
This is really really awkward. Does it just mean he’s a detective?

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Magic Crest: the magic crest of his family, allowing for the use of spells his forefathers devised with relative ease; the Vogelsang family mainly focused on focusing the three elements of cold, wind and fire in tangible shapes; mainly finds use in elemental spears or walls, conjuring elemental "armor" was the ultimate goal of his family's magic research.

Magic: instead of continuing his family's research on elemental magic, Evan himself specialised in high-level structural magic, including an unusual expertise in structural analysis, which he can use to pick locks or find irregularities. He is also able to analyze living bodies, allowing him to determine many truths about others.
Aside from that, he knows the standard spells like strengthening and repair, as well as pure mana explosions.
Why is this under other abilities? It’s explicitly his magic, and thusly should be put underneath the magic abilities section. Also what kind of element is cold?

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equipment: Evan owns a quite peculiar Mystic Code, a mysterious trinket he picked up during one of his earliest cases and subsequently modified to be his personal mystic code: the "Nadel des Schmerzes", a syringe's needle that used to belong to one peculiar criminal; even without a syringe, it can inject several kinds of venom, drugs and even magic extracts that can cause various effects.
It can also be used to inject a magic "doping", that way turning a non-fighter like Evan into an extremely fast  berserker; this doping, however, causes great pain to the subject and uses up their prana extremely fast.
You need to elaborate a great deal more. What the fuck is magic doping? How is it normal from normal doping? What stats does it raise him to? What are some of the effects of the syringe? Etcetera.

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Origin:Evan is the result of a regressing magus family secretly resorting to alchemistical means to "revitalize" their bloodline; using a homunculus surrogate mother, Evan can be described as a Magus' version of a designer child.
As a result of that, his magic potential is unusually high; as his body houses the homunculus-typical amount of high-quality magic circuits as well as his family's magic crest, allowing him to use a plethora of spells with ease.
He spent years at the Clock Tower at the behest of his family, however he was always more interested in solving riddles than in studying magic; again and again, he would descent into the bowels of London, follow his "game" of detective; sometimes he'd be gone for weeks before returning to the Clock Tower.
Eventually, he decided to truly specialize in the field and became an Enforcer of the Magus association, while freelancing as "magic detective" whenever he was'nt called upon.
There are quite a few spelling errors in this, and could use a great deal more fluffing out. This section is there so people can get to know and understand your character a bit, and I don’t really know anything about him other than the absolute barest of bones.


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weakness:as a beeing close to homunculi, he is very reliant on his mana; while a high mana pool is a given, should it be endangered, so would his life.
He is also very reliant on his Mystic code when fighting, as he is physically very weak without it
Furthermore, despite his appearance, he is quite weak to women.
How is he physically shit if he’s on par with olympic athletes?
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likes: interesting cases, cute girls, punk rock, seafood

dislikes: heat, licorice
You could add a few more to both likes and dislikes.

Overall, the entire sheet is extremely barebones and would greatly benefit from the addition of a great deal of clarification, along with the other noted issues.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Break on December 30, 2015, 05:32:08 AM
Thanks for the advice, yeah i kind of wrote the sheet on the go with only the idea of "magic detective" in mind.

Didnt know how much fluff was necessary for just the sheet, as it differed greatly between the others in the thread

i wrote "human/homunculus" since he is a mixture like Illya, unlike a normal homunculus which would basically be a clone
His father is a human and part of the aforementioned regressing magus family, the homunculus surrogate mother was a loan from the Einzberns


the high magic rank is justified by him beeing a Homunculus, as they are always described as having extremely high magic potential due to basically beeing made of magic circuits


as for the deduction skill.... yeah, it just means he's a detective xD


ah okay, didnt know where to put the magic since its the first time i did a sheet for this
yeah cold is just ice.

yeah the needle's magic doping... its just saying that it's creating drugs with magic, both poisions and a kind of doping that heightens his stats
yeah i wanted to think up the other details of what kind of effects the syringe can cause later on, but i guess i should do that in the sheet itself huh


yeah i'll think up some more details than that, sorry.

My idea was that he's physically shit unless he's using the syringe and/or strengthening magic
so the stats there are him while using the syringe

yeah i guess ill have to think up more of a backstory for the likes and dislikes and stuff
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: MissingMandible on January 06, 2016, 05:41:54 AM
Blackburn post will be done tomorrow (Wednesday's) morning.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on January 07, 2016, 03:09:23 AM
Since when does Archer use or even know about memes
4chan memes, not even 2chan
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 07, 2016, 02:59:31 PM
Only Blackbeard and Okita possess the knowledge of internet memes.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on January 07, 2016, 03:13:43 PM
Let the memes flow through you. Embrace them, and join the dark side.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on January 15, 2016, 12:46:17 AM
Okay. I have pondered on this for a while, and have decided that Toe has had a good run. I've had fun playing him, but I feel it is time to move on. But cry not, smiles everyone! Smiles! The stage is set, but it is time for Tohuw Balagan's act... to come to a close. I hereby NPC the fabulousest of daemons, and thus he leaves the stage. Not with plot armour, but with certified iri castle butler status!

And don't forget, you can't spell slaughter without laughter.

Next up is Skeletor the skeleton.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on January 30, 2016, 11:30:21 AM
He had a good run.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 02, 2016, 11:54:55 AM
Already said it elsewhere, but I'm dropping Noriko, announcing it before I put up a replacement sheet.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 06, 2016, 09:16:49 PM
Welcome back, Knick!

(hue)
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on February 07, 2016, 05:55:46 AM
Welcome back, Knick!

(hue)

This but seriously.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on February 07, 2016, 06:49:19 AM
New Knick sheet unapproved for now, I want to discuss things with the other GMs before it's finalized.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 07, 2016, 03:08:46 PM
^^Hey, that was a day before Nachos' Masterwork Summon Spell kicked in.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on February 10, 2016, 01:15:07 AM
Hey,

Now that I am back I would like to give an apology for how I acted with Hamara, mainly about how I seemed to let my own mental perceptions of the character go beyond what was on the sheet into the game. For that I apologize.

I could give a long down out apology for it. I could constantly repeat that I was wrong. But that would just be repeating over and over again and beating the dog dead.

So, I am sorry. I really am.

Hope you can forgive me.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 13, 2016, 11:50:36 AM
Panda, 48 hours have passed while people have been repeatedly asking you to post Michael. So I skipped him.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 15, 2016, 02:17:10 PM
Corbin brought up Deacon Frost, but he doesn't have a NPC sheet. Could you make a one before we discuss if it is feasible for him to have such major influence as Corbin implies? As he's not an Antagonist IMHO it is reasonable to make his sheet for NPC idea thread if he's to be used for world building purposes.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on February 19, 2016, 04:48:54 AM
Yeah, I can do that.

Hopefully I'll get it done this weekend.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on February 21, 2016, 08:33:10 AM
Me and doc might need someone who will RP out for us some NPC werewolves to fight. Anyone on board with this idea?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on March 17, 2016, 03:41:43 AM
Sorry I haven't been on for the last couple of nights.  I have came down with a really nasty upper respiratory virus complete with a fever and all of that fun stuff.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 17, 2016, 10:21:24 AM
That's fine, we assumed anyway that you were busy with something important.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on March 28, 2016, 03:18:33 PM
Could SINIB post Noel? We've been waiting for Nachos more than 48 hours, and I really want to move on and wrap up the interaction. My character gotta interact with other people too.

EDIT: Never mind, Nachos' back, but it would be nice if you posted relatively soon after he posts Alpha. The pace has been sluggish compared to interactions where your other chars are involved.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on April 04, 2016, 03:48:47 AM
Hey, I just want to apologize for leaving for Friday and yesterday. But hopefully you guys saw my message Thursday night.

However, I do want to apologize again, due to delays in when I was suppose to get back today from visiting my family I got home not long ago. That, combined with other work that I still need to do tonight means that I will unable to post tonight. However, I will be on skype tomorrow, and will also be able to post.

Sorry Kat, Dan and Umbra. I can give you guys further explanation as to why I was unable to post if you want.

But until then, see you tomorrow, and one last time, sorry.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 04, 2016, 01:48:16 PM
No need to explain yourself, I've been quite busy recently as well. No rush.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: yinsukin on April 04, 2016, 05:46:32 PM
Ive got an announcement.  Im back from my hiatus.  I needed to take a break from CE to get my shit together IRL and I think ive done that.  So now that im back I want to wipe all of my old starter characters from my accepted characters list.  With the exclusion of Medaka and Relius, I would like everyone to be considered gone or npced or whatever. This has been my first RP so they really were just there to help me feel things out.  I don't really care how they get gone.  I just want room for other people.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on April 05, 2016, 11:58:25 PM
Heyo, we were wondering if someone could help me and Aiden out and RP some werewolves for us. Ron and Annabeth have reached something of an impasse at this point, and they need to end up fighting something that Ron be forced to go into Gauru against at some point during this anyway.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 10, 2016, 01:01:18 PM
Hey, Elf, I find it quite weird that Forest can smell that there is something off with Mord. She has enhanced senses, but the sheet doesn't say she can smell who is human or who is not. Mask covers not only visual appearance, but fools people when it comes to other senses. So she should register as human for Forest unless her Mask was gone again (obviously) or if she tasted her blood (because Changeling blood tastes unusual to vampires).

The Mantle of Summer do seep through the Mask a little, but it's more like Forest would notice the air around her feels warmer than that Mordred smells weird.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on April 12, 2016, 01:23:45 AM
Kat and Umbra, I will be unable to post tonight. I just got back and still have a ton more work to do. A lot of stuff got pushed on me at the last second. Sorry.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 14, 2016, 04:14:45 AM
Will Mordred feel anything unusual if she shakes Forest's hand?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Knick on April 14, 2016, 04:56:19 AM
I want to apologize again. Shit hit the fan a bit, but everything should calm back down by the weekend. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on April 15, 2016, 02:26:50 PM
Will Mordred feel anything unusual if she shakes Forest's hand?

Just that it's cool, but not like freezing cold or anything like that.

Well, the calluses.  And the half gloves.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 16, 2016, 07:39:40 AM
If Knick is absent for too much time, could we ask for GM judgement whether Numina got away safely, so I can skip out Julius? I'm waiting until Monday, at least.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 17, 2016, 02:39:58 PM
Dante sheet should be reviewed. It's bad idea to approve a character that is straight Fantastic without accounting for special gimmicks. It sets awful precedent.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: yinsukin on April 18, 2016, 06:12:44 PM
For anyone that cares, I will be unable to post today.  I have to make several potentially extended calls and get some work done.  Apologies.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on April 22, 2016, 07:13:06 PM
Elf, Bdoom has some serious issues with your most recent post. It assumes Sakura just doesn't notice that Rin is upset, and just lets her walk out without doing anything. Sakura would react to it, and Rin just ignoring her would have bad consequences. Could you please come onto Skype so he can discuss it with you?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 25, 2016, 11:43:04 PM
I for one welcome my Discord overlords.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on April 26, 2016, 12:17:40 AM
good for you.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on April 26, 2016, 12:21:22 AM
I for one welcome my Discord overlords.

I do not, however. I'm not going to be switching unless there is absolutely no alternative, and even then I will try to stick to Skype as far as I possibly can, at least until someone comes up with a more suitable alternative.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on April 26, 2016, 01:51:03 PM
Yeah, I don't smart phone so i can't dscord either.  Sticking with Skype.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 26, 2016, 01:52:59 PM
It has PC app. I don't have smartphone at all, yet it works splendid for me. Especially voicechats work so better.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on April 26, 2016, 03:26:48 PM
It has PC app. I don't have smartphone at all, yet it works splendid for me. Especially voicechats work so better.

Voicechats are literally irrelevant to our needs. I'm not sure why you act like it's a meaningful thing.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on April 26, 2016, 04:17:55 PM
Skype completely doesn't work for people like Nachos and Mandy. YOLF reported five crashes a day. It's clearly dysfunctional client.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on April 26, 2016, 05:02:25 PM
Skype completely doesn't work for people like Nachos and Mandy. YOLF reported five crashes a day. It's clearly dysfunctional client.

And Discord doesn't work for Franco. Also, Skype would work (for some definition of "work"...) for Names if he was willing to actually make an attempt to get it to work, rather than just steadfastly refusing. His stubbornness doesn't mean we are all obliged to move over to a platform the majority of us don't want to move to.

Yes, Skype is not brilliant, but Discord just doesn't do what we need. The way our chat works means that not reading scrollback is a bad idea, and Discord handles that so much worse than Skype does. It also handles notifications far worse, there's no way I could have Discord notifications active whilst I'm doing something else, they're simply too intrusive.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: yinsukin on April 29, 2016, 01:16:11 PM
Sorry I couldn't post yesterday.  I was out all day and didn't have time to say what I am saying now.  For the record, my next few weeks will be kinda spotty in terms of posting consistency.  Until mid May ill probably be going between multiple posts a day and no posts.  However, ill do my best to do at least 1 post per day for each of my characters as I have been doing.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: yinsukin on May 06, 2016, 09:19:22 PM
Hate to sound like im making excuses but I wont be able to post today.  Long story short there was a shooting nearby that kept me away from my home.  Anyway, ill try to make up for it this weekend.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on May 29, 2016, 01:02:20 PM
Names, please post Akatsuki and Alpha as soon as possible, too much time has passed since your last posts.

EDIT: Considering Franco is skipping out, then if you don't post soon I will retcon whole meeting with Akatsuki.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Break on June 19, 2016, 03:24:55 AM
It took me ages but i finally got around to working out another sheet, hopefully its fine this time^^
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: YOLF on June 19, 2016, 04:15:05 AM
Sheet feedback:

Unless the doll creation is ridiculously impressive, the character's magic rank should be lowered. It's too limited to fit the description for High. Remove the letter ranks from the magic types, as they don't really mean anything in the context of the CE character sheets. Expand on the magic section and try to add relevant detail, since you go into specifics but don't really give any information that "he can make barriers and magic puppets" doesn't.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Lycodrake on June 19, 2016, 05:47:25 PM
Unmotivated to continue unless someone wants to engage Aptera in interaction.
Otherwise might just remove him and make another PC.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Break on June 19, 2016, 11:46:12 PM
Okay, so is it okay if i write a post introducing him now or should i wait till theres a lull in the chain of events?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on June 20, 2016, 03:37:28 AM
You can introduce him any time you like, but whether he has anyone to interact with right now I don't know.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on June 22, 2016, 03:58:28 AM
Hey Kat, could you please change your Petra post?

Rin put up a boundary field around her and Liseth to make sure they weren't seen, and Liseth did something too so they could be discreet before Rin put up the boundary field.

Unless Petra has some ability to see through the field, but I really don't think MR can cover that because it's not being directed towards her.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 22, 2016, 04:00:25 AM
I'll change it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on June 22, 2016, 04:02:35 AM
Thanks!

Uh, insert gratitude here so it's just not a one word post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 22, 2016, 08:44:21 PM
Fixed as I promised, Elf.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 24, 2016, 04:21:34 AM
Elf, once 48 hours pass I will skip Corbin.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on June 25, 2016, 04:27:34 AM
Check my latest post.

Anyone wanna NPC a medic?  Corbin is shit at first aid.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 26, 2016, 02:42:08 AM
I'd hold a bit with introducing a medic until we are done with that moment between Mord and Kuro.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on June 26, 2016, 01:52:23 PM
And I skipped Corbin a bit. Maybe with more material to react to it will be more convenient for you to make a post, Elf.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Umbra of Chaos on July 02, 2016, 11:30:04 PM
I'm going to be off Discord for an hour or two. If I get on I don't trust myself to not get angry and start arguing again. I'll post Oren in a bit.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: yinsukin on July 13, 2016, 12:29:58 AM
Sorry for the late notice but I do not have time to post today.  Its been too all over the place.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: yinsukin on August 08, 2016, 12:24:38 AM
Sorry I wont be able to post today either.  Ill try to post tomorrow if I can.  Sorry about that. 
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on August 14, 2016, 03:04:40 AM
I don't suppose it's too late for me to jump back in once school starts up?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Panda on August 14, 2016, 06:56:22 PM
Technically, no. But you'll have to at least try to commit, barring school stuff getting in the way.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Cherry Lover on August 14, 2016, 08:03:58 PM
You can jump in, Arch, but I don't think anyone is going to rely on you posting consistently. So, I think you're going to struggle to do anything which doesn't give people an easy out.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on October 15, 2016, 04:27:33 AM
Elf they're outside so we're gonna ignore the bit about the counter.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on October 21, 2016, 04:54:04 AM
No bullshitting. I'm coming back for real. I've got the spare time actually this semester, and I'm doing well enough to make sure I can put at least half an hour a day to writing posts if not more.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on October 21, 2016, 12:07:50 PM
I'm busy and cannot turn on Discord, but I promise to be on in 8 hours and post everyone.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on October 30, 2016, 02:47:01 PM
My PC died, maybe even permamently.

Trying to install Discord now on one I borrowed.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: yinsukin on November 04, 2016, 01:58:16 PM
Sorry for the last min announcement.  Im going away on a retreat this weekend.  Im not allowed any sort of electronics so I can't post until I get back.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on November 26, 2016, 04:14:27 PM
Meh, going behind my back, not pinging or PMing me, and skipping me out while I was asleep really soured my mood.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kat on December 12, 2016, 05:50:21 PM
Test post.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Elf on April 07, 2017, 01:03:27 PM
I will be MIA this weekend, but back on Sunday.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kurogami on April 28, 2017, 05:24:35 AM
So yeah, I'm back. From outer space; and actually slightly less shitty of a writer two years later.

Am I still good to come back?
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: SINIB on April 28, 2017, 02:11:17 PM
Yes, of course you can. Here's the discord link.

https://discord.gg/d39m2FB

All of the discussion of the rp happens here now, so you'll need to make an account.
Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: yinsukin on May 04, 2017, 05:35:32 PM
I wanted to make this announcement as a sort of early warning.  In a week or two, ill be spending more of my freetime on personal projects, so my posting pace may slow down or get more inconsistent.  If it gets to be annoying just pm me or something.

Even then, I don't think it will be a big deal.  But I wanted to put this out there to leave an invitation for communication.

Title: Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
Post by: Kotomine_Rin on November 26, 2017, 08:19:29 PM
The Colisseum


The colisseum is now open. Here is a description of the location and different facilities that make up this grand structure. (Work in Progress)

The Coliseum:
The coliseum looks nothing short of massive and grandiose from the outside, a magnificent structure built in an ambitious project to create a Nexus made landmark, a symbol of pride and strength for the people of the city. Its walls are not made from ordinary stone, but magically strengthened materials. Thanks to the magical fields set within the walls as etched spells engraved within, even the stronger warriors of the Nexus would not be able to destroy this structure easily. A wall that would easily falter to a legendary strike would crack at best and take multiple blows before faltering, and will reform itself automatically after a short delay. They can also shift and change from the inside. Walls can turn in on itself and close in, or open up new passages, or even turn invisible.

Reception Hall:
An automatic gate opens, revealing immaculate corridors and brightly colored walls accompanied with engravings, statues and paintings of heroes and warriors of all ages and myths doing battle and performing epic deeds. However, their features are non-distinct. It’s more like they are less individuals and more symbols, stunning works meant to captivate and bring a sense of awe. The modern lights and freshly waxed marble floors help join this display of almost futuristic magi-technological and ancient architecture together, giving it an otherworldly but unique presence.

Medical Bay

Cafeteria

Entertainment Lounge

Training Facilities

Dorms