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Lantz's fics / Re: of swords and sorcery
« on: October 17, 2013, 03:24:28 AM »
That said, Magos, this
Because watching trainwrecks is fun.
is something I'd rather you avoid. Constructive criticism is more than fine, as is your comment about the "don't like, don't read attitude (which has quite a bit of truth in it), but stuff like that quote is getting a bit close to trolling territory. I'd rather avoid having to start handing out warnings.
Aye-Aye Captain!

The BL drama is over by order of Roadbuster. I'll return to it when the stars are right ie. Never. Hopefully.

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Doujin Projects / Re: Visual Novel Project
« on: October 17, 2013, 01:22:25 AM »
Honestly the style is more a practical choice; its simpler for an artist to do IMO, but I'm not certain.


That and the style just looks friggin awesome.

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Doujin Projects / Re: Visual Novel Project
« on: October 17, 2013, 12:15:17 AM »
Loving the Female Necromancer idea, really was trying to be as gender neutral with this idea as possible. I relish the challenge of writing/editing such a work.

Art is what I see the biggest trouble in obtaining though. I submit that a 'Sin City' style of artwork for this VN idea would likely work the best, mainly black and white with some color thrown in for example, on the Spirits and other such things.

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Doujin Projects / Re: Visual Novel Project
« on: October 16, 2013, 11:27:40 PM »
Making a porn game? Nah, I wouldn't be able to keep a straight face writing the damn thing.

An Otome game sounds like a decent pitch, but we could easily go with more of a horror/mystery thing with it.

Here's an idea pitch - You're a necromancer/exorcist, trying to figure out who killed your old mentor, and the circumstances surrounding his death. His spirit was apparently destroyed, so there's no leads there. Basically, you're going to need to rely as much on your ghost sources as you will on good old fashioned detective work. Colorful characters, both dead and living are simultaneously your only sources and primary suspects. Good luck!

Fun fact, Necromancy was originally a concept based around asking the spirits of the dead about the future. Could lead to some fun stuff.

Or you want to know something? I haven't seen a good classic sci-fi story in a while. Blade Runner style Cyberpunk anyone?

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Lantz's fics / Re: of swords and sorcery
« on: October 16, 2013, 04:34:11 PM »
Lantz does not want your criticism and you are being seriously impolite about it. There is nothing more you can say that can help the fic, so why are you even here?
Because watching trainwrecks is fun.

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Lantz's fics / Re: of swords and sorcery
« on: October 16, 2013, 03:59:25 PM »
Well, with regards to the beta, that would be me.... Honestly, I don't think I'm that great either, but it's better than nothing.

And, if you don't like the fic and Lantz isn't going to listen to you (both of which are clearly true at this point) then why are you even in the thread? You're not helping anyone at this point, you're just annoying Lantz. I think it would be better if you just keep away and leave him to it.
Because the 'Don't like, don't read' attitude kills criticism.

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Lantz's fics / Re: of swords and sorcery
« on: October 16, 2013, 03:32:39 PM »
Magos, you are not making "legit criticism", you are just bashing him. You have, so far, basically told him to delete the entire fic, re-write the character and start again. And, you're not doing it in a nice way, either. If you don't like the fic and have nothing useful to contribute, then just go away and leave him alone.
At this point, it's honestly the best thing to do, and I don't know how I could put it any nicer. I also offered advice on his formatting and shit in one of my posts along with other recommendations (Find a better beta, work on your formatting, and actually take critique instead of dodging it.)

If tough love is the only way to get Lantz to improve then that's what you need to give him.

So no, I'm not just bashing him, and if you think I am I have several bridges in New York that I want to sell you for cheap.

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Lantz's fics / Re: of swords and sorcery
« on: October 16, 2013, 03:23:59 PM »
Your presence is not constructive. It never has been Arch and you know it. You violated the rules on bl in the discussion, it is clear to me that you are only here to be disruptive. I do not wish to hear your opinions on my work as they are not intended to help. Other people may have points but the discussion is over on bl, I'm not looking to discuss the work here or anywhere else with you involved Arch. I will not answer your questions or comments further. Now please do everyone a favor and leave me and my work alone.

Wow ignoring legit criticism in a well written post that explained my problems with it and suggestions on how to fix it. Truly the act of a genius.

Or not. Seriously Lantz, when people have an issue with a story usually it's a good idea to listen to their complaints and attempt to address them. As Ergast said in the BL thread, either
a) Everyone is misunderstanding everything (Unlikely due to Occam's Razor and simple probability)
or
b) You're dodging criticism

I tend to think you're following the second philosophy much to your detriment.

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Lantz's fics / Re: of swords and sorcery
« on: October 16, 2013, 06:36:31 AM »
The best thing to do if he reacts childishly is to ignore him. I know it's not the easiest thing (anger makes it hard not to focus on whatever caused it in the first place, after all), but unless you can trust yourself not to rage, it's best to try and hold back if you can.

I don't know if you're doing these things already, but honestly, if it's getting to you, it helps to either vent to a friend in private or even just type out the stuff that makes you rage out on a word doc or a blank pm or whatever equivalent you prefer.

...If I sound patronizing at all, my apologies in advance, I'm trying to be helpful, not annoying. ^_^"
Oh no problem, its just I suffer from the 'OH SHINY' problem more than most. Plus releasing rage on Lantz is therapeutic.

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Lantz's fics / Re: of swords and sorcery
« on: October 16, 2013, 06:24:22 AM »
That's much better. :)

And I'll be here to try and limit the ragetasticness. So it hopefully shouldn't be a problem from this point forward.
Thanks, but I'm making no promises depending on how Lantz reacts.


Really, the behavior he's shown on BL has been nothing short of mindbogglingly childish, deleting threads for no reason other than someone took the time to point out the flaws in his story or ideas.

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Doujin Projects / Re: DSM Fourm Visual novel project
« on: October 16, 2013, 06:17:23 AM »
Eh, I'd say our chances are better than you think- I'd list my reasons for saying so, but I also don't want to tempt fate or jinx things. Probably getting the userbase established is our biggest challenge, but it's still doable I think.

Also, just to head things off at the pass, keep it cool in here. I'd rather things remain civil.
Got it Alice. I'll try to remain as civil as possible in this thread.

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Lantz's fics / Re: of swords and sorcery
« on: October 16, 2013, 06:04:34 AM »
He is only posting here to be a shit disturber.  Same as in the vn thread. He's out to get me Alice.
Nah, Third Fang is the one I'm planning to murder in his sleep.

Also, the term you're looking for is 'troll' lantz. Though at the moment, I've tried to ditch my 4channer habits to review this without going full ragetastic.


PPS- If it's typed or printed, it's libel, not slander. It also has to be demonstratively false and done with malicious intent. The more you know lantz...

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Lantz's fics / Re: of swords and sorcery
« on: October 16, 2013, 06:02:53 AM »
Giving him criticism is fine, but you're being too angry about it. I can understand all too well how frustrating it is (see my own blowup, which was going too far in some places, even if I did have some valid points), but if you're going to give him constructive criticism, please do so without the insults. You're only validating the blanket he tends to throw over most all of the criticism he receives, constructive or no. If you want to prove him wrong, don't prove him right.
If I may, an absurd amount of that criticism is justified by his own actions.

Anyway, seriously, I cannot think of a way to salvage this story at this point. The main character is far, far, too SOD breaking to be believable and reeks of bad Sue. He either needs to be thrown out and a new character concept brought in and then the story worked around a far far less SOD breaking MC, or the character needs to be rewritten from the ground up. I can't offer you much advice on that sadly.

The grammar is spotty and the whole thing flows jerkily, I'd advise getting a better beta. No offense to you whoever you are, I'm sure you're trying your best but it just isn't enough. The whole thing fluctuates between slapstick and grimdark at the drop of a hat, and the torture scenes are... lets just face it they're more hilarious than actually disturbing or interesting or even believable. Their being skipped over makes the whole thing worse, the protagonist seems very REACTIVE, not PROACTIVE. The narration is also weird and jerky, with lines coming straight out of left field and making no sense; this may be a formatting thing but really all I can recommend on this one is practice. A lot. You'll hopefully get a hang of it eventually.

Speaking of out of left field things, the prologue is entirely superfluious and serves no purpose aside from padding the story length out from what I can tell.


Basically, this thing needs a LOT of TLC, dump trucks full of it.

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General Discussion / Re: personal canon
« on: October 16, 2013, 05:51:08 AM »
I guess that's how you guys see it but I don't think it's that way at all. Two killers fighting isn't interesting at all to me though.
So you'd rather see two nuns in a slap fight then?

Joking aside, a balls to the wall fight between two combatants who want nothing more than to brutally murder the other is totally fucking awesome. See the Mad Dog fight in The Raid, where it's basically nothing but bare hands and improvised weapons in a brawl between these two guys and a total psychopath in an enclosed space. Some of the best action of all time IMO.

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Lantz's fics / Re: of swords and sorcery
« on: October 16, 2013, 05:37:02 AM »
let me be clear Alice these are not bad guys. I would have had genocide of the town be the most bad guys do. These are monsters.
>Monsters are not bad guys

...Lantz? Serious question at this point - do you even ever pay attention to what the hell you type? Because I swear to god your IQ drops a point per word you type.


Also, for that matter, Assassin is NOT a chump. Assassin is a legit threat, one of the 19 Men of the Mountain that made ASSASSIN A FUCKING WORD.

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