Dark Side of the Moon
General Discussion => Real World Topics => Topic started by: Cherry Lover on June 16, 2014, 10:19:36 PM
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So, what do you guys think of the World Cup so far?
England seem to be in a bit of trouble, you would rather not lose your first match, but I think we played reasonably well and were somewhat unlucky. Based on Uruguay's last match I think we'll beat them, and I think we probably should be able to beat Costa Rica as well, so I think we'll go through.
Spain, on the other hand, are in real trouble, IMO. They've pretty much got to win their remaining two games now (and Chile are a pretty good team), if they lose they're out, and if they draw they're in big trouble (because their goal difference is so bad). And, if they do make it through, they're almost certain to play Brazil in the second round....
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6th fastest goal in World Cup history just pulled off by an American. 32 seconds into the game he pretty much walked that thing into Ghana's net
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Yeah, that was pretty impressive. I think you'll win this game now. But, you've still got to play Germany and Portugal yet....
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HAHAHA SWEET SWEET REVENGE.
2-1 US victory. First first match win for the US since the 1930's. Fucking hell this Group of Death just gave the US a gasp at struggling into the cup proper.
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Well, obviously winning is better than losing, but I'm pretty sure Ghana are the weakest of the other three teams in the group. I don't see you beating Germany (although it's not impossible), so it'll probably come down to the game between you and Portugal (although a draw will probably be enough, since Portugal got hammered by the Germans).
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I decided to follow USA in this World Cup. I won't be surprised if Portugal gets owned by Eagleland.
And I will laugh if USA lasts longer in the Cup than England.
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I decided to follow USA in this World Cup. I won't be surprised if Portugal gets owned by Eagleland.
It's not impossible. The US realistically only needs a draw anyway (if they draw, then they only need to avoid a 5-goal swing in the final game, and the Germans will already be guaranteed to finish top, assuming they beat Ghana, so they won't give a shit), and I can easily see them managing that.
And I will laugh if USA lasts longer in the Cup than England.
Well, regardless, England certainly lasted longer than Poland....
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Well, regardless, England certainly lasted longer than Poland....
^Dude, why it even matters? It has literally nothing to do with what I posted, as I was making comparison between USA and England :|
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Now, now, it's true. What really matters is...
That our team is sucking harder than last time, and all of your teams have better chances than ours. :V
And if they don't beat Honduras...oh, boy.
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Well, regardless, England certainly lasted longer than Poland....
^Dude, why it even matters? It has literally nothing to do with what I posted, as I was making comparison between USA and England :|
Well, I wouldn't really assume the US is going to outlast us, but even if it does I suspect it has more to do with the draw than the relative quality of the two teams.
Now, now, it's true. What really matters is...
That our team is sucking harder than last time, and all of your teams have better chances than ours. :V
And if they don't beat Honduras...oh, boy.
Yeah, you've got to beat Honduras or you are essentially out. The French looked pretty good, though, and you're likely to need to beat them as well....
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Well, regardless, England certainly lasted longer than Poland....
^Dude, why it even matters? It has literally nothing to do with what I posted, as I was making comparison between USA and England :|
Well, I wouldn't really assume the US is going to outlast us, but even if it does I suspect it has more to do with the draw than the relative quality of the two teams.
Now, now, it's true. What really matters is...
That our team is sucking harder than last time, and all of your teams have better chances than ours. :V
And if they don't beat Honduras...oh, boy.
Yeah, you've got to beat Honduras or you are essentially out. The French looked pretty good, though, and you're likely to need to beat them as well....
>The draw
Hahaha
England got a relatively easy group compared to the US. There is no debate about that.
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Well, I wouldn't really assume the US is going to outlast us, but even if it does I suspect it has more to do with the draw than the relative quality of the two teams.
usa has more difficult group, and nearly brroke a world record of scoring the fastest.
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Well, regardless, England certainly lasted longer than Poland....
^Dude, why it even matters? It has literally nothing to do with what I posted, as I was making comparison between USA and England :|
Well, I wouldn't really assume the US is going to outlast us, but even if it does I suspect it has more to do with the draw than the relative quality of the two teams.
Now, now, it's true. What really matters is...
That our team is sucking harder than last time, and all of your teams have better chances than ours. :V
And if they don't beat Honduras...oh, boy.
Yeah, you've got to beat Honduras or you are essentially out. The French looked pretty good, though, and you're likely to need to beat them as well....
>The draw
Hahaha
England got a relatively easy group compared to the US. There is no debate about that.
Erm, what?
There's plenty of debate about that. I would say that Costa Rica are a better team than Ghana, and Portugal haven't been that great recently. Plus, Uruguay have a significant advantage with the World Cup being held in Brazil.
Admittedly, with the way the teams are playing (Uruguay are actually pretty poor, whereas Germany were quite impressive) you might have more of a case, but looking at the original draw I would have probably preferred the US's group to ours.
Well, I wouldn't really assume the US is going to outlast us, but even if it does I suspect it has more to do with the draw than the relative quality of the two teams.
usa has more difficult group, and nearly brroke a world record of scoring the fastest.
Scoring a goal in 90 seconds does not make you an amazing team....
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Scoring a goal in 90 seconds does not make you an amazing team....
actually winning is what counts. usa won their first, it's a good start.
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Scoring a goal in 90 seconds does not make you an amazing team....
actually winning is what counts. usa won their first, it's a good start.
Yeah, that's definitely true. But, regardless of the relative group strengths, Ghana are most certainly not as good a team as Italy. Further, we've played what seems to be the hardest team in our group, whilst the US played what is probably the easiest. So, I wouldn't be so sure that the US are going to be in a better position than us at the end of the group stage....
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>Germany
>Portugal
>Easiest
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Erm, did you read my post?
What I said was that the US has played their easiest game already (against Ghana, i.e. the country that is notably not Portugal or Germany), whereas we've played what is probably our hardest game.
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Sorry, I have legitimate blindness in my right eye, so that's probably why I mixed up group with game, along with multitasking on my lemon post.
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Ah, OK.
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Wow, so who would have predicted that Spain would be the (joint) first team to go out?
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Well, that's England pretty much done for. We can still go through in theory, but we're relying on Italy winning both of their last two games (the last of which they'll only need a draw for) as well as us beating Costa Rica.
Honestly, I think we were a bit unlucky, although our defence was pretty poor. The Uruguayan captain should have been sent off for a second yellow about 30 minutes into the game, and I think we played well enough to get at least a draw.
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Ghana tied with Germany. Now that makes USA even more impressive.
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I now want the USA to pound the Germans into dust come next game; if only because that means Ghana has more chances of getting through. >:3
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So Mike, what was it you were saying again about the US facing the weakest of the group first off? :3
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So Mike, what was it you were saying again about the US facing the weakest of the group first off? :3
I think it's still true, honestly. Even with that draw, I'd still back Ghana and the USA to be the two teams that go out.
I guess we'll see tomorrow night, though. If the US can get a point against Portugal, then you're in a very strong position.
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Except Portuguese are in most uncomfortable situation now. Got pwned hard by Germans.
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Except Portuguese are in most uncomfortable situation now. Got pwned hard by Germans.
Well, whilst it can't be good for morale to lose that heavily, it's still in their own hands. If Portugal win their remaining two games, they'll qualify. The only way the hammering by the Germans matters is if they draw with the USA.
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Hey Mike: looks like the US team is going to knockouts.
Where's England going again? :3
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Arch, possibly you should have waited for the final whistle before you posted that :P
Yeah, sure, you'll probably still go through anyway, but it's not safe, and you've still got to play the Germans.
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God that should have been a US win. Still did better than England would have.
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Still did better than England would have.
That's not really something we can say. I think we could have beaten Ghana, and at least drawn with if not beaten Portugal (especially with them playing like that), but we'll never know.
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Mike. You guys couldn't beat fucking Costa Rica.
Who the US national team trounced in last years tourney.
Go fuck yourself. The last second goal Portugal pulled was bad god damn luck.
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Mike. You guys couldn't beat fucking Costa Rica.
Who the US national team trounced in last years tourney.
Erm, actually, we've not played them yet. And, they seem to be playing exceptionally well right now. I'd be surprised if they don't make at least the Quarter Finals, and they could possibly even go further.
Go fuck yourself. The last second goal Portugal pulled was bad god damn luck.
And, honestly, we were unlucky against Italy, and to some extent also Uruguay. Plus, both Italy and Uruguay were reasonably good against us, and terrible against Costa Rica.
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Has this become the official national sports team dickwaving thread now?
...You can tell I don't really care about sports that much. :V
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Has this become the official national sports team dickwaving thread now?
...You can tell I don't really care about sports that much. :V
I think that's kind-of how sports conversations go....
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All they needed was draw, righto?
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All they needed was draw, righto?
All the US needs are draws.
That last 30 seconds was utterly bullshit in that game though.
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All they needed was draw, righto?
No, not quite. A win put the US through outright. A draw means they either need a point against Germany, or to hope that the result between Ghana and Portugal goes their way (basically, the US goes through if it's a draw, Ghana wins by 1 goal and the US only loses by one goal or Portugal win without overturning a massive goal difference deficit).
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All they needed was draw, righto?
No, not quite. A win put the US through outright. A draw means they either need a point against Germany, or to hope that the result between Ghana and Portugal goes their way (basically, the US goes through if it's a draw, Ghana wins by 1 goal and the US only loses by one goal or Portugal win without overturning a massive goal difference deficit).
The Portugal-Ghana game is likely either going to be a tie or a Portuguese win. The US is still going to be able to go through if they don't lose too badly and Ghana doesn't stomp. Portugal has basically an impossible situation here for them to advance.
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All they needed was draw, righto?
No, not quite. A win put the US through outright. A draw means they either need a point against Germany, or to hope that the result between Ghana and Portugal goes their way (basically, the US goes through if it's a draw, Ghana wins by 1 goal and the US only loses by one goal or Portugal win without overturning a massive goal difference deficit).
The Portugal-Ghana game is likely either going to be a tie or a Portuguese win. The US is still going to be able to go through if they don't lose too badly and Ghana doesn't stomp. Portugal has basically an impossible situation here for them to advance.
I'm not sure why you think Ghana obviously can't beat Portugal, given that Ghana drew with the Germans whilst Portugal got stomped by them.
And, the US only goes through with a loss and a Ghanian win if you only lose by one goal, Ghana only wins by one goal and Ghana doesn't score more goals than you do. In that case, you'd go through on the head-to-head result. So, whilst it isn't certain that you'd go out if Ghana wins and you lose, there's a good chance.
On the other hand, a draw does put you (and Germany) through, and it is extremely unlikely that Portugal will catch up the goal difference, so anything other than a Ghanian win does pretty much mean you're through, yes.
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On a different note, did you see what Suarez did? Surely he's going to get a long ban for that (especially since it's the third time he's bitten someone). I suspect Liverpool fans will be hoping it's solely an international ban and not a ban from all competitions.
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He should be put in asylum for long term observation. It's not his first time when he bit someone.
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Yeah, this is the third time he's done it. I can't see how FIFA can do anything other than throw the book at him here.
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Go USA! And Portugal.
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The US advances. England goes home.
Suck it Mike.
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USA USA USA.
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The US advances. England goes home.
Suck it Mike.
Only because Portugal played utterly terribly against the Germans and then managed to get their act together for the next two games....
USA USA USA.
You're not even American. And, who exactly was it that knocked Poland out...?
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You're not even American. And, who exactly was it that knocked Poland out...?
1) I don't remember. A Polish player is in German team anyway. Podolski is 100 % Polish guy, just plays for Germans because it pays off more.
2) I like USA. I don't think unconditional alliance with them is beneficial for my country, but I like their culture and literature.
3) Does it even matter?
Anyway, it's good both teams qualified since I like Germans and USA alike. I don't like German language because I find it too hard to learn properly, but I like German culture.
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You're not even American. And, who exactly was it that knocked Poland out...?
1) I don't remember.
Well, you were in England's qualifying group....
A Polish player is in German team anyway. Podolski is 100 % Polish guy, just plays for Germans because it pays off more.
Well, to be fair, a) I'm sure there are English players still in other teams and b) I suspect a large chunk of the players still left in the competition play in England.
2) I like USA. I don't think unconditional alliance with them is beneficial for my country, but I like their culture and literature.
Fair enough.
Honestly, I don't like the US as a country at all, hence why I like seeing them lose (well, along with the general "not wanting friends to take the piss" thing...).
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Mike, I never pay attention to Polish team until they miraculously qualify to competitions.
I forgot to add I have relatives in USA (no where else outside Poland), so that's incentive to support USA too.
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Clearly my complete and total apathy towards the whole endeavor is why the USA has made it so far. :P
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I propose Polish players grow mullets, in 1974 and 1982 mullets were standard for our representation.