Dark Side of the Moon

Wow awesome thread! very informative I'm thinking of getting into VN games too, this helped me a lot.

haha and they both love apples!

Quote from: MysteriousHeroineX on February 25, 2014, 10:15:43 AM

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In comparison, Primate Murder does not qualify as Type-Gaia

Canonically, PM is superior to Crimson Moon. Your argument that ORT is clearly superior to PM holds water when we get confirmation about the difference in power between CM and ORT. I don't remember we got such confirmation from Nasu

It's a statement from this Q&A:

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Q: Who would be stronger if Servants fought the 27 Ancestors? Servant's also have superhuman battle ability, but the 27 Ancestors are also superhuman monsters.... I got the impression that ORT, Primate Murder, Altrouge Brunestud, and so on were obviously stronger than Servants.

A: All I can is they're both powerful.... They're both beings that live in mystery, so the only thing that can be said is that it all depends on the situation the moment it comes done to ""having the means of killing the other guy somehow". Among those, Earth rules won't even apply to ORT in the first place and Primate Murder has the super advantage against primates so they're in a league of their own, I suppose. Speaking of which, for one Primate Murder, seven Guardians would be the appropriate amount.

Basically, Primate Murder as the absolute authority over anything that is 'HUMAN', meaning that it can pretty much destroy most Servants and whatever human that thinks they're too cool for the doge.

But read on further, and see that ORT doesn't even follow Earth's rules, and we all know that ORT isn't Human.

Also, it wasn't said that Primate Murder is superior to Crimson Moon, rather it was said that:

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It is currently under Altrouge Brunestud's control, and though it is not related to vampires, it counted among the Ancestors due to it having copied its master and developed a taste for drinking human blood. With this by her side, Altrouge is said to be a monster superior to even Crimson Moon.

"With this by her side" means Altrouge combined with Primate Murder, and who knows if the two other Guards of hers aren't included in that statement. I'm pretty sure that anyone would have problems when facing four of the most overpowered Dead Apostle Ancestors to exist.

So no, there is no concrete evidence that Primate Murder is stronger that Crimson Moon by itself. Also, Type-Mercury has the strongest Offense of all Aristoteles, and that's nothing to scoff at.

No Ambiguous Ayakashi, from what I understand it is implied that " It is owned by Altrouge and 'ONLY LISTENS' to her, so she can be considered to surpass the power of Crimson Moon in a way"

Primate Murder's presence alone is enough for Altrouge to be considered powerful than Crimson Moon himself.

If we put it into perspective think of it this way: it's like owning the most powerful weapon in the world lets say for example a 'nuke'.. before I own that nuke powerful countries all over the world will never listen or view me as a threat.. but now that I 'own' that nuke not to mention it won't detonate unless that button was magically pressed by me

then now I am a threat to them, if not, then I can be even considered stronger.. in a way.