Awwweeesoommmme~
Btw, I do have a suggestion. Along through the rp, it may be necessary to put in edits as characters progress. That said, you might want to make a copy of the character applications? One for the GM and the one for the players. That way the players could possibly request for edits upon your discretion.
He needs a lot of edits.
Edit done Elf, although in the previous post it wasn't working anyway.You need to delete that and a whole mess of other shit man. Satoshi needs some serious work done on him. His weaknesses are bullshit.
Shows you don't know what the difference between evil and neutral is.
Shows you don't know what the difference between evil and neutral is.
Yes, I do, and enslaving young children is very definitely "evil"....
Yes, I do, and enslaving young children is very definitely "evil"....
Shows you don't know what the difference between evil and neutral is.
Yes, I do, and enslaving young children is very definitely "evil"....
And Rider, someone willing to slaughter an entire city's worth of people for the sake of one person's possible safety has Chaotic Good, so yeah, no.
Yes, I do, and enslaving young children is very definitely "evil"....
Also saved the world by ensuring victory in the grail war by sacrificing the happiness of one child and a couple of lives. Would say that makes him obviously not evil but at the same time not good.
Hence Neutral.
Except that his desire to win the Grail War has nothing to do with wanting to save the world, and nor was Rin winning it likely to endanger the world. So, no, that logic does not follow at all.
Except that his desire to win the Grail War has nothing to do with wanting to save the world, and nor was Rin winning it likely to endanger the world. So, no, that logic does not follow at all.
Except that his desire to win the Grail War has nothing to do with wanting to save the world, and nor was Rin winning it likely to endanger the world. So, no, that logic does not follow at all.
>Implying Knick's Zolgen is anything remotely like the one in canon. Don't compare the two.
Zouken is zouken, less evil is still evil. My hope is that Knick embraces that fact in regards to Zouken.
What he said about him before certainly makes it sound like that. If he wanted Sakura to just save the world then there is no need for him to force her into obedience and implant her with things that would remove her ability to think independently if she didn't.
Zouken is zouken, less evil is still evil. My hope is that Knick embraces that fact in regards to Zouken.
Road to hell Knick, road to hell.
Road to hell Knick, road to hell.
Well duh Knick, although last I checked your zoulen mind controlled a person to the point of near death. Saber, Shirou and kiritsugu haven't and are therefore still good guys while your zouken is still a monster, less than canon but still...
Not if I post the character I am thinking of posting.
I'll be the good guy, you can all be bad guys.
Sakura is too soft to win a Grail War. Zouken needed someone who would be capable and willing to defeat the other masters. He could not afford to let a variable loose when all of the earth was at stake. He either destroyed the Grail, or everything dies. Failure was not an option.
Well duh Knick, although last I checked your zoulen mind controlled a person to the point of near death. Saber, Shirou and kiritsugu haven't and are therefore still good guys while your zouken is still a monster, less than canon but still...
Kiritsugu and Saber have killed scores of people. By your definitions, they are beyond inhuman.
Like 5 people for the entirety of the world.
Like god knows how many people for a war.
Your scales are off a bit man.
In advance, I call dibs on Mordred.
If all you want to do is win for yourself then you might need to be tough, but if you want to destroy the Grail then the best option is to ally with like-minded people, such as Rin and Shirou. Killing them was not remotely sensible or necessary.
QuoteIf all you want to do is win for yourself then you might need to be tough, but if you want to destroy the Grail then the best option is to ally with like-minded people, such as Rin and Shirou. Killing them was not remotely sensible or necessary.
Trust the other masters. You do understand that Zouken is still a magus right? He's not going to take chances with other people if he can just eliminate them and get the advantages they have. Taking Saber from Shirou is a good example of this. This is a guy who isn't willing to take chances. The most dangerous thing to a plan is someone you cannot manipulate or control completely. Zouken was going to make sure the chance of failure was 0% by any means necessary. He fucked over 5 people and saved the world. Far from the worst solution.
Canon Zouken did things for the evulz because of Alzheimer's and soul rot. I mean, he forgot the love of his life and could only remember "win Grail War".
And became a pitiful worm-man; not even a wyrm-man, which could've been interesting, but a worm man.
Also, Elf, how do we rate children? Do we just treat them as basically weak humans?
From how far in?
*Whistles*
You know what this RP needs?
Dean Winchester.
*Looks Innocent*
*pokes out from behind a corner, looks around*Methinks Santo has rubbed off on you, YOLF. :3
(*c*) < And Harry Dresden?
*runs*
And I can only imagine Dresden's interactions with Elf's characters.
From how far in?
4th Season.
Cas is also awesome.
Mike, what's with the blue and red text?
And what's with the blatant setup of more BDSM in her very profile?
Not to mention the fact that her Mana stat is off.
This is the woman who told Shirou that she would orgasm if she gouged his eyes out. Honestly, I think I'm toning it down a bit, if anything.
And, frankly, it's none of your damn business. I do not have to conform to your sexual preferences, and I can write my characters however I like. It is certainly canonically plausible, therefore you have no grounds to object.
Sakura has more prana now, it's changed.
This is the woman who told Shirou that she would orgasm if she gouged his eyes out. Honestly, I think I'm toning it down a bit, if anything.
And, frankly, it's none of your damn business. I do not have to conform to your sexual preferences, and I can write my characters however I like. It is certainly canonically plausible, therefore you have no grounds to object.
Have you read HA? Rider is literally less sexually confident than Rin in her H-scene in UBW. This is why it shatters my suspension of disbelief.
Sakura has more prana now, it's changed.
People don't grow more Circuits, so exsquieeze me if I find this implausible as well.
Unless you make it clear that Sakura is in Nexus City (by, say, making her one of your characters), you're bending suspension of disbelief over even further by claiming that Sakura is giving Prana to someone in another dimension (which would fall under the Second Magic, something she's 100% incapable of).
There's literally nothing but to edit your stats according to the Scale system and removing Charisma (thank fuck for that. Lantz giving EX rank Charisma to characters because they have tits was honestly pretty insulting), I doubt it's that difficult (I re-purposed the 4 sheets I posted to the new system in the span of maybe 1½ hours, where I was also doing other stuff).
Brah don't make false statements. The EX charisma has nothing to do with gender. Don't bring such up again.
I don't answer attackers.
I doubt she would be even near Saber's, and she wasn't best of rulers.
And Rider is clearly amoral, Chris, so her aligment being more believable than Sabers Charisma really says a lot about Saber.
And Rider is clearly amoral, Chris, so her aligment being more believable than Sabers Charisma really says a lot about Saber.
She's not amoral, she does care about people and doesn't seem to particularly want to do bad things, but I would agree she's not good. There's a reason I've got her as Chaotic Neutral....
Brah/Chris is talking about Iskander, Kat.
...I think?
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Wait, no - nevermind. ^^;
Yeah Kat, I know however, and this this is the last thing I'll say, it's not on the sheet.
So the player hostility needs to be drop now and so does the subject.
Read the sheet Kat, there's nothing on it regarding that. So DROP IT.
His question is wrapped in hostility Mooncake. I don't answer attackers.
And Rider is clearly amoral, Chris, so her aligment being more believable than Sabers Charisma really says a lot about Saber.
She's not amoral, she does care about people and doesn't seem to particularly want to do bad things, but I would agree she's not good. There's a reason I've got her as Chaotic Neutral....
If slaughtering an entire city for one person is something she goes "I'd happily do that" to, then yes, she is amoral. Especially since it's not even self-defense.
So the player hostility needs to be drop now and so does the subject.
Lantz is so cradled by Mike's admin powers that he thinks he has them for himself, how adorable.
It's in the defence of someone she cares for, I think that's similar. She doesn't lack morality, she just has people she prioritises.
He's allowed to ask people to stop, it has sod all to do with admin powers. Other people have done it before.
And, frankly, this isn't helpful in any way, so I think it should stop. I understand you questioning the charisma thing, but you're doing it in an extremely impolite manner.
It's in the defence of someone she cares for, I think that's similar. She doesn't lack morality, she just has people she prioritises.
That's the most infantile and stupendously retarded logic I've heard all day, minus the Charisma thing.
Let me set up the scales for you. In the one scale you have 50000 people. In the other scale you have your GF/whatever. You're going to have to pick one or the other no matter what. What do you do? Shoot your whore GF in the face and let the 50000 people live because otherwise you're a horrible fucking person.
Requesting people being polite on the internet is like bringing up arms laws; You don't do it because you won't get anywhere.
I asked lantz a simple question. He gave me about 5 posts of handwavey bullshit because he refuses to give a simple answer to a simple question. That's even more impolite than just admitting that you were in wrong (then again, lantz seems to have some debilitating mental illness that makes him think he can never be wrong) or just saying "no" from the start.
amor·al adjective \(ˌ)ā-ˈmȯr-əl, (ˌ)a-, -ˈmär-\
: having or showing no concern about whether behavior is morally right or wrong
Full Definition of AMORAL
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a : being neither moral nor immoral; specifically : lying outside the sphere to which moral judgments apply <science as such is completely amoral — W. S. Thompson>
b : lacking moral sensibility <infants are amoral>
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: being outside or beyond the moral order or a particular code of morals <amoral customs>
Rider doesn't care whether or not the action is good or evil. She only cares about Sakura. Sounds amoral to me.
I don't think it's true that Rider doesn't care if her actions are good or evil, she just cares about Sakura more. I don't think she's amoral at all.
I don't think it's true that Rider doesn't care if her actions are good or evil, she just cares about Sakura more. I don't think she's amoral at all.
If Sakura asked of it she would melt the city. She cares about Sakura so much that she would disregard everything else, whether or not it's good or evil doesn't even apply to Rider when Sakura is brought into the equation. If Sakura is there then Rider is amoral because she gives no shit about anything else in comparison.
Ya but even then we still like in the dead middle of an alley. He not just going to see the guy who is about to be impaled without looking down an alley. And even then ability to interfere is probably slim.
Mike, she is not good by any measure. Her disregard for human life is appaling for sensitivities of modern people, and I bet even ancient Greeks would cringe.
Mike, she is not good by any measure. Her disregard for human life is appaling for sensitivities of modern people, and I bet even ancient Greeks would cringe.
I never said she was good, she's just not evil, or completely lacking in morality.
If potentially killing ten thousands of people for selfish reasons is not evil thought, then I am Pope Francis.
To me, Rider seems more of a True Neutral individual.
Saving someone important to you instead of a couple of people who are not is a selfish act though.
Think that one dilemma in Infamous with Nicole and the 10 doctors.
Ok, that was not made clear in your post, I just reread it to make sure.
This is just a bit irritating because I may just end up with Minato walking around doing nothing, whatever, I'll just do that.
Done, Minato is now nowhere in particular.
If something else happens I may try to jump in; If so Minato healing some random person becomes just something that happened. If not it can become something that catches Tokiomi's attention, sound good?
Please someone fuck with Ragna so Phoenix has a reason to show up. It would be great.pls pls someone thank you god bless
Name: Satoshi Alexander Emiya Pendragon
Height: 5'10
Weight: 220lb
Name: Sakura TohsakaYou know I checked a BMI and they're both in the High health risk zone.
Height:6'2
Weight:250lbs
Please someone fuck with Ragna so Phoenix has a reason to show up. It would be great.pls pls someone thank you god blessQuoteName: Satoshi Alexander Emiya Pendragon
Height: 5'10
Weight: 220lbQuoteName: Sakura TohsakaYou know I checked a BMI and they're both in the High health risk zone.
Height:6'2
Weight:250lbs
Basically they're overweight.
By how much Names?
Also how the fuck did she "learn" the Second Magic. 2nd Magic is not something you just learn.
Sakura Tohsaka is off by 70 pounds
Well Satoshi is fairly muscular, I don't know if that matters. Your bmi scale doesn't tell me anything names. Satoshi's build is similar to Spider man who weighs 180lbs.
although Sakura was intentionally supposed to be ten pounds over "normal"
Maybe she's so fat she broke the walls between dimensions
Muscular does not mean very heavy. Either Satoshi is so hilariously buffy he lacks neck, or he is fat.
Well Satoshi is fairly muscular, I don't know if that matters. Your bmi scale doesn't tell me anything names. Satoshi's build is similar to Spider man who weighs 180lbs.If Satoshi and others weigh that much and aren't overweight with fat, they'd be XBAWX HUEG bodybuilders who can't scratch their faces.
if I converted wrong ok, Elf mind if I edit?
although Sakura was intentionally supposed to be ten pounds over "normal"
Satoshi is actually the same height.
Sakura herself is also fairly muscular, she is a continuous practitioner of martial arts.
what I'm asking is exactly how much is the issue.
If Satoshi and others weigh that much and aren't overweight with fat, they'd be XBAWX HUEG bodybuilders who can't scratch their faces.
Because yes the BMI scale doesn't scale muscles, but at MOST people who work out and are healthily-muscular(as in good flexibility and shit) should be in the average weight section, not hitting high health risk.
I called my teacher for this.
Names please stop ignoring the question.
You don't have to be a jerk names.No, Ragna is a jerk. Or can be. He's a cool guy, if you're not fat.
10.)Alternate Selves. Since this is a Multi-Dimensional RP, multiple versions of one character will be allowed, but only one per player and only three versions of one character allowed at a time. So that means Player C can play as Mind of Steel Shirou where everything went Grimderp and he let Rin kill Sakura, but that is the only version of Shirou he can play. Player A can play Fate Shirou who is following his dream. Player B can play Heaven's Feel Normal End Shirou who is Sakura's house husband. For the purposes of this RP Emiya Shirou and EMIYA Archer are separate characters. So there can be three Shirous and three Archers.
I must question the plausibility of Sakura ever being able to master Angra Mainyu. She has nothing close to the willpower or ego of Gil. There is no possible way for her to master it.
Keep your lies to yourself Brah.
Ego, no, certainly not, but I'm not so sure about willpower. Sakura has a lot of willpower.
Keep your lies to yourself Brah.
But, why would Sakura be able to flat out ignore All the Evils of the World? In canon, Gil does it because of his massive ego, but how would Sakura be able to?
But, why would Sakura be able to flat out ignore All the Evils of the World? In canon, Gil does it because of his massive ego, but how would Sakura be able to?
Because she has a lot of willpower, I presume, and a lot of time to do it.
Ego, no, certainly not, but I'm not so sure about willpower. Sakura has a lot of willpower.
Keep your lies to yourself Brah.
She did not shrug it off, she choked it out slowly mastering it.
Sakura is insecure and not very confident in herself. She has the willpower to kinda-resist worm rape, but that's more the fact that she's so used to it by that point that it can't faze her that much any more.
She'd buckle under from a fully-on AM mental attack faster than you can say "Senpai".
Erm, nope. HF demonstrates quite conclusively that this is very definitely false. She resists AM for a long time.
She resists jack shit. AM is the full 6 billion curses, not the nagging of the Crest Worm + the Shadow making her feverish. AM corrupts Sakura completely in the matter of 2 weeks, at the VERY best on her end.
Gil is water, AM is oil. Don't mix.
Sakura is... something that mixes with oil, AM is oil. They can mix, even if there is resistance.
Thus Sakura cannot master AM, AM will master Sakura.
To claim that Sakura doesn't have a lot of willpower is just utterly idiotic. You clearly do not understand her character one damn bit.
Oh, by the way Lantz: Why does Sakura have EX charisma? Having more charisma than the first Emperor of Mankind is a pretty tall order. Why hasn't she taken over the world yet?because 25 pound breasts
I honestly don't care, sheet's up. It's up to Elf.
I would suggest changing it to say something like mastered a small fragment of AM instead of the whole thing, you can have her possess the same level of power even with that, and it doesn't lessen either Sakura or Angra in any significant way.
I might also add that one does not need to master second magic to travel between worlds, that is to say that if she was a master of the second she would be Zel level automaticaly. She could just as easily use a supercharged version of shadow transport to move between worlds.
Just my thoughts, do with them what you will.
because 25 pound breasts
Charisma stat got thrown out, so I assume you're talking about the old sheet?Yes. I am talking about the old sheet.because 25 pound breasts
I've been fairly cooperative regarding the RP, I go with events at the drop of a hat when presented and I've edited posts anytime I've been asked but given my position as it is I feel no point in giving in when none of you will role play with my characters even if I do change things. I'm not about to be bullied here.We'd roleplay with you more if you'd stop complaining about your characters being ignored as crazy and if you'd stop trying to insert yourself into every situation as the hero. That would help a whole fucking lot, as that's something you haven't stopped doing.
We are just asking you to explain why Sakura has some of the shit she does, such as the high MR and Charisma.No no no It's Sakura (Archer's daughter however the fuck that works) that has the high MR and Charisma. Sakura Matou is the one that controlls all the evils of the world and destroyed the MA.
Or how should could do something she should ever be able to do. Like destroy the MA or control "All the Evils of this World".
Ignoring argument...I think it's the jewelcraft
So what freaks Tokiomi out the most here, the instinctive understanding that he is looking at a Messiah, the insta healing, or the idea that Minato basically pulled true magic or close to it with jewelcraft? (From a Likely Magus perspective)
Oh what I meant with not needing to master the second to travel between worlds is that just moving yourself between worlds is not all of the second, in the same way that Tsubame Gaeshi is not all of second magic. Someone with sufficient effort (Truly ludicrous amounts) could gain a piece of true magic, just not all of it, that would require Zel to die.
So what freaks Tokiomi out the most here, the instinctive understanding that he is looking at a Messiah, the insta healing, or the idea that Minato basically pulled true magic or close to it with jewelcraft? (From a Likely Magus perspective)
lantz, no one wants to RP with you because you haven't changed at all, despite that crap you claim about doing so. Everything problematic that you do you still do. If you're so damn worried about no one playing with you because of things you've done, but want to blame it on everyone else as usual, leave. Everyone would be better off for it.
lantz, no one wants to RP with you because you haven't changed at all, despite that crap you claim about doing so. Everything problematic that you do you still do. If you're so damn worried about no one playing with you because of things you've done, but want to blame it on everyone else as usual, leave. Everyone would be better off for it.Alice I want to find you and hug the shit out of you for this post.
lantz, no one wants to RP with you because you haven't changed at all, despite that crap you claim about doing so. Everything problematic that you do you still do. If you're so damn worried about no one playing with you because of things you've done, but want to blame it on everyone else as usual, leave. Everyone would be better off for it.
Names, it's hardly an assumption when I've been warned about the lack of players to interact with from the GM. You want me to be wrong guys? Then actually do the two things I ask, include my characters and actually discuss ideas with me. I'm fine playing the second string crew despite appearances. Without being included of course I'm going to do whatever random things I come up with.Think on this: No one wants to include your characters IC because they come off as socially inept, or pompous or dismissive, no one wants to include your characters OOC because, as you can tell if you read the last few pages, they just don't make sense to their world/setting, or to us.
The MA is not invincible and I never claimed she killed every last member with her own hands.
Annihilated is a pretty strong word. Also it's impossible that she'd be able to even do that, considering that Magi like Lorelei (who can fight Servants and DAA under red moons) exist within the MA
Well Names yes, they came off as forward with their beliefs and such because of a multitude of factors. I've scaled that back this go through because you guys aren't the type to roll with that. I misjudged that, my bad. But everyone has already prejudged a repeat before my first post in the reboot. So I'm fairly justified in assuming you won't RP with my characters.Then why don't you prove our judgement wrong and actually post in the RP thread and not just bitch about us in this one?
They're just so... the kind of person you'd reel for a bit before shaking your head at in real life.Not the kind of person that you want to give a swift kick to the groin so that they can no longer taint the gene pool?
Then how are you able to answer us? The fact you are replying to us very frequently kind of means that busy isn't really an excuse Lantz. Also have you started using a computer yet?
It would be a great idea to actually do that.
Then how are you able to answer us? The fact you are replying to us very frequently kind of means that busy isn't really an excuse Lantz. Also have you started using a computer yet?
It would be a great idea to actually do that.
There's a big difference between having the time to post in this thread and having the time to write an RP post (especially a first post, which is likely to be longer and needs more setting-up).
That's the norm for me Kuro so yes.
No Arch, actually I need more than that, and I have a root canal tomorrow so yeah, can't get it done tonight.Actually that's like the fucking perfect reason to do a post tonight.
Also, is there a reason Shirou wasn't approved yet (he's basically identical to last time), or have you just been busy?
ShiroukoPlease just use "Shiko" (Warrior girl) rather than "Shirouko" (Warrior boy/son girl).
Sweet. Least Shirouko isn't taking up an slots of either Shirou or Illya.
ShiroukoPlease just use "Shiko" (Warrior girl) rather than "Shirouko" (Warrior boy/son girl).
I suppose Tokimi passed his luck check, catching a glimpse of someone using a grail as a lightsaber may have broken him completely.
Snakes don't like birds.
He can always just change the name to Shiro.Gender neutral, afaik, but "Shirou" = "Warrior son". The female equivalent most certainly isn't "Shirouko" - "warrior son daughter/girl", rather the female equivalent is "Shiko".
That is a female name isn't it?
Might be tempted to join if you're still accepting entries.
Edit: Noticed people brought a good share of BB roster, including 40% Hakumen.
Oh boy.
Can I keep Mordred (whom I want to create soon), Daiki, or do you have plans regarding her?
Approval page has been updated.
And yay, Arc!
The blade of storms (a sword crafted by Satoshi in an attempt to surpass Enuma Elish)
The blade of storms (a sword crafted by Satoshi in an attempt to surpass Enuma Elish) it creates a localized magical Tornado when the words "Divine favor" are spoken and the sword is swung.Holy dicks you have surpassed yourself
QuoteThe blade of storms (a sword crafted by Satoshi in an attempt to surpass Enuma Elish)
Fucking roflmao
The blade of storms (a sword crafted by Satoshi in an attempt to surpass Enuma Elish) it creates a localized magical Tornado when the words "Divine favor" are spoken and the sword is swung.
It's not a replica of Ea, I never said it was. I never said it surpassed Ea.
EMIYA, who's basically the best at projection we'll ever see, can barely even make a shitty version of Excalibur. Ea is thousands of times that powerful. The mere indication that someone could even attempt a forgery of it is flat out ridiculous.
the fact that for some unknown reason she can use UBW.yes this
It's not a replica of Ea, I never said it was. I never said it surpassed Ea.EMIYA, who's basically the best at projection we'll ever see, can barely even make a shitty version of Excalibur. Ea is thousands of times that powerful. The mere indication that someone could even attempt a forgery of it is flat out ridiculous.
Even if it's not a replica, it's clearly attempting to emulate one of it's functions.
Archerko is not canon, it is fucking fan fiction.
So? This isn't a strictly Nasuverse RP, there's no reason fanfic or doujin characters aren't allowed.I don't think that's what he's talking about. More the fact that lantz appears to be claiming that she's canon.
I just want to point out that she doesn't have UBW, that would mean she has shirou's soul. And there is nothing in sword dancers that says she has UBW. and most of the swords she creates are not recognizable NPs.
Heck the only swords she creates even close to NPs are 'altered' knockoffs of K&B.
Also projection is not unheard of, everyone and their dog can do it it's just not practical
In all likelihood she's using her higher prana capacity and better circuits to make up for the cheap price given to Shirou by his sword Element/Origin, and copying his fighting style more as a sentimental thing.
Also wishcraft might make copying his fighting style simpler.
I think Kat and Brah kind-of hit the nail on the head here. Archerko isn't canon, she's a doujin character, and one who seems not to entirely conform to Nasuverse canon from the sounds of it.Actually Nachos gives reasonably canon mechanics as explanation to Archerko's (Illya) abilities. lantz just tacked on his..."original" weapons.
Also, you had time to make a new character but not post?Would you post if you bitched at you all the time?
The fuck lantz?
I think Kat and Brah kind-of hit the nail on the head here. Archerko isn't canon, she's a doujin character, and one who seems not to entirely conform to Nasuverse canon from the sounds of it.That is not free rein to do absolutely anything you want to do with her
Da whitest boi in da crib has arrived
@Umbra
ok, but I never once heard that refered to as wishcraft.
Sakura struggled in Canon against Angra Mainyu and her mental breakdown as it futher corrupted her was her character in heavens feel. YOu decide to make her master it and still be all Sakura like.
Is it just me or are all of Lantz's characters designed to kill Gilgamesh.Methinks lantz hates Kinpika.
I am waiting for a reply from you, Knick.
Law is the smart man.Damn straight. It's fucking magic, and he don't want to fuck with no fucking magic.
Ain't got trapped with no worms.
HA isn't really post- any particular route, I'd just like to point out.
Not that he knows but there are worms in his car.They better not have ruined the leather.
Zolgen is interested, he not getting away that easily.
They better not have ruined the leather.
I apologize, but Taiga Fujimura has been denied.Thank you Elf.
I have decided to deny the character for several reasons. First off, it breaks suspension of disbelief a bit much to be acceptable on top of your other sheets, and the grimness of the backstory is kind of tasteless and out of character for all the characters who were mentioned. Even in an "alternate reality" there has to be something that can be believed. Unfortunately, this backstory did not have it.
Not to mention, it seems to go against everything that makes Taiga a character as well. Taiga's a joke character; putting her in a "Grimdark" storyline doesn't work. It doesn't make her interesting or even "edgy", but a poor parody of herself.
Quick note, It is no longer day due to phoenix's light.
All you creatures of the night have Arc to thank.
Will post reply later, making a Mako.
Is it just me or are all of Lantz's characters designed to kill Gilgamesh.
lantz. You should be kicked from the game for having the audacity to even say anything like that (on top of your consistently bad quality sheets and the fact that you apparently have the time to keep making them and yet not to post), after everything Elf has done for you, even allowing you one last chance when most everyone else would have kicked you during 1.0. You're already blowing it and you haven't even posted.
Plus even if you admit you're willing to go along with it because she's GM, that's still a disrespectful thing to say to someone with her position. Take something with some damn humility for a change, lantz. You're lucky to be even playing, and in my opinion are already treading on some damn thin ice.
How the hell is saying "I don't agree with you but I respect your decision" "disrespectful"? Just because Elf made a proclaimation, it doesn't mean Lantz has to instantly change his opinion and believe she is right.Mike... The guy's on the verge of being kicked out if he messes up in the RP even once due to repeated instances of bad RPing and indirectly or otherwise causing drama outside it during CE 1.0. And knows this. And yet has the audacity to bitch when he loses one damn sheet.
Please do not put words in my mouth Names. Despite what you think that is not what my statement means.
I'm working on a dynamics thing, six characters spread throughout the city. I have a general goal in mind here.
I'm working on a dynamics thing, six characters spread throughout the city. I have a general goal in mind here and needed the map to be posted to decide who goes where, I'll post sometime after breakfast. Also I'm kinda busy reading the RP thread to catch up.
I am waiting, Nachooooos! Argwargblgarblwrwrwrwrwr...Dude I already posted
Dark Archer is who he is. I'm not trying to be cool or whatever. He's just a resident of a bad end type thing. I prefer my sheets to be simple. Five page back stories are irregular.lantz.
Stay away from my characters Arch. Especially with that pking nonsenseHey, Law see's a rogue spirit trying to kill an innocent business man, he's going to be on that shit faster than you can say 'Sealing ritual activated' mother fuckers. And considering you're pretty blatantly trying to set up a player kill of Gilgamesh, I view it well within my rights to bring out the iron wire and beer bottles.
Dark Archer is who he is. I'm not trying to be cool or whatever. He's just a resident of a bad end type thing. I prefer my sheets to be simple. Five page back stories are irregular.No/almost no backstory is irregular, not the other way around.
Stay away from my characters Arch. Especially with that pking nonsenseHey, Law see's a rogue spirit trying to kill an innocent business man, he's going to be on that shit faster than you can say 'Sealing ritual activated' mother fuckers. And considering you're pretty blatantly trying to set up a player kill of Gilgamesh, I view it well within my rights to bring out the iron wire and beer bottles.
Arch, Elf specifically told you to stay away from Lantz (I think, anyway). That means stay away from Lantz....
We have zero evidence of this, so unless Elf steps up and makes it clear, Magos can countergank all he wants.
Lantz is pretty blatantly setting up a player kill. We have the full right to intervene IC.
Rin took Sakura's place, basically. It's way to damn long to explain, I'm not sure if I explain all of it that it will fit in a post.
Yet again Names, do not put words in my mouth. You have no right to tell me how I think. You are wrong in your assumptions.I could make any of your character sheets in three minutes or less. If that somehow translates to the original sheet maker putting in any large amount of effort, I will eat my shoe.
Actually I'll argue that Gigamesh is one of the most likable characters Nasu has ever written.
I am waiting, Nachooooos! Argwargblgarblwrwrwrwrwr...Dude I already posted
Actually I'll argue that Gigamesh is one of the most likable characters Nasu has ever written.
Well, you're free to argue that, but it's pretty obvious that he isn't intended to be, and I sure as hell don't agree with that assertion.
Gilgamesh is unlikable, and intentionally so. As a result, yes my characters do not like him.
Gilgamesh is unlikable, and intentionally so.
Gilgamesh is unlikable
IC most people are suppose to be in aww of him unless they super high tier.
And even then they should even recognize that he is like amazing and beyond them. It actually in the character sheet.
Only reason Phoenix and Arc don't is because they an Elemental and a Fairy probably. Well that the reason Phoenix doesn't, Arc might not cause it Arc and she gives 0 shits.
For that matter, Lantz, unless your breakfast is a fucking cow you probably should have posted by now.
Ragna is not in a happy place
>"Shut up"By which I mean like "S-shut up!" as in embarrassed shut up
Possible route, Ivan?
Shirouko has to wait though.For the love all that is mostly sane and nice and good in this world, use Shiko. Argh.
...further she killed vampires, they eat people like cows, so it's a relative thing.Racist much.
He wasn't there to see it happen Knick, further she killed vampires, they eat people like cows, so it's a relative thing.
Weren't you the one that said killing people is always wrong?Obviously lantz doesn't consider vampires people.
He wasn't there to see it happen Knick, further she killed vampires, they eat people like cows, so it's a relative thing.
He wasn't there to see it happen Knick, further she killed vampires, they eat people like cows, so it's a relative thing.
Weren't you the one that said killing people is always wrong?
Wait, since when can Satoshi turn Alter? I thought that wasn't on the sheet.
Yes Moon cake but that excludes certain things due to relative facts
He was ganked Mooncake, I decided he'd be alter for the sake of some plans with players and what not
blade vamps are monsters, end of story.Not all vampires in Nexus are "blade vamps", though.
Lyco I've told you to stop saying that crap.The "Satoshi's harem" thing or the "racist" thing?
2.) Thou Shall Not Meta Game Or Godmode. If you have knowledge that your character could not possibly have, don't give it to them without a reasonable explanation. There will not be any Godmoding here either. You will get smote, and smote hard.Both of these rules were just violated by your post, lantz (the latter more due to it being confusing than a multitude of grammar problems). Combined with the conditions you were under, this is grounds for your removal from the RP. It's only a matter of Elf confirming so.
6.) For the Love of God, Please Try To Make Your Posts Readable. It’s no fun if one’s posts aren’t able to be read. Use proper capitalization, spacing, and punctuation in your posts whenever possible. If there are constant infractions, GM action will be taken. This should be a fairly well written RP that others can read like a story if they wanted.
Killing NPC's is not God moding Alice....DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK METAGAMING IS LANTZ?
Killing NPC's is not God moding Alice.
lantz, it's for the Alter thing, not killing NPCs. Why the hell would you think it's for that? Also, don't even think of editing it into your sheet at this point, it's both been screencapped and I can see any changes via the edit thing.
The problem is with Lantz's attitude. This happens all the damn time with him. He never, ever is accountable in your eyes, for anything he does.lantz, it's for the Alter thing, not killing NPCs. Why the hell would you think it's for that? Also, don't even think of editing it into your sheet at this point, it's both been screencapped and I can see any changes via the edit thing.
People do make mistakes sometimes, though, and leave things out of their sheet that should be present.
People do make mistakes sometimes, though, and leave things out of their sheet that should be present.
Except Mike, one, this was lantz's last chance, and two, this has been a consistent thing with him. Sorry, with those factors combined, it's grounds for being kicked in his case. This is it.
Being dark is not unique to servants, taint is taint. Due to a plan I've discussed with another player Satoshi is tainted. Simple. The way he looks is my choice. I've done nothing wrong here. I'm working with players, no meta gaming or god moding happened.1) You didn't tell Elf
Being dark is not unique to servants, taint is taint. Due to a plan I've discussed with another player Satoshi is tainted. Simple. The way he looks is my choice. I've done nothing wrong here. I'm working with players, no meta gaming or god moding happened.
Except this is basically Lantz's last chance because of how bad he fucked up in CE Mike. He caused Daiki to quit because of his bullshit, after being warned about it multiple times by Elf, you, and Alice.Except Mike, one, this was lantz's last chance, and two, this has been a consistent thing with him. Sorry, with those factors combined, it's grounds for being kicked in his case. This is it.
Look, can you please stop making proclamations as if you're making the decision? Maybe it is justification for him to be kicked, but that is for Elf to decide.
Being dark is not unique to servants, taint is taint. Due to a plan I've discussed with another player Satoshi is tainted. Simple. The way he looks is my choice. I've done nothing wrong here. I'm working with players, no meta gaming or god moding happened.
Bringing in something that was not directly implied or stated in the sheet is metagaming.
You gave his appearance in the sheet and you gave his capabilities. Nothing saying anything about 'taint' or Satoshi Alter.
Therefor it is metagaming. Cut and dry.
Actually I did tell elf I would be and in fact was planning with players. So yeah, not doing anything wrong.
I told her on Skype and Pms I'd be planning events to avoid conflicts.That's different than Satoshi Alter being thrown in suddenly. Very. Very. Different.
Lyco Sakura can use dark Sakura's abilities, one of which is tainting people, Sakura is approved. Therefore not meta gaming.What the fuck. Just. What the fuck.
It was demonstrated in the RP itself and its non presence on the sheet is an oversight, not intentional Umbra. None of this is cause for such violent responses.
If it was an oversight the correct thing to do would be putting it in the sheet and see what Elf says. The point of the sheet is to show people what they should expect to see in the RP. It shouldn't be demonstrated in the RP then added to the sheet.
Zouken doesn't look remotely like he does in canon, so if she recognises him I'd accuse you of metagaming. She also doesn't know that his real name is Zolgen
2) He would not be 'going after her' he would begin by bringing the attention of such an entity to the powerhouses in the city, he knows he can't kill it alone. From there he would act as the organizer, tracking her and organizing a proper attack.
3) Zolgen would never go in person. He is not stupid.
Illya uses Makiri, but never in the presence of Rider. Also Sakura's knowledge =/= Rider's knowledge.
Plus IIRC the epilogue of HF states that Sakura sold all the Matou books for mad $$$$
OK, is there a reason you insist on attempting to kill off one of Lantz's characters and dragging us into the sort of big battle we're explicitly trying to avoid?
OK, is there a reason you insist on attempting to kill off one of Lantz's characters and dragging us into the sort of big battle we're explicitly trying to avoid?
Because Zolgen is watching everything in town so is aware of her (or it to him).
And it is completely IC for him to do what he is doing. If you deny me doing this you deny my ability to be Zolgen in the RP. Especially since Sakura was not at all discreet in her use of her power, I mean she just ATE a vampire rave.
That set Zolgen off. Cause he now knows AM is in the city and two it has Sakura's anti-spirit powers. Which is bad.
It also means he'll likely drag Law into it to help deal with AM - a spiritual anomaly like him might have a trick up its sleeve. And if he senses Rider attacking someone, Law won't hesitate to get the iron wire and bottles out.OK, is there a reason you insist on attempting to kill off one of Lantz's characters and dragging us into the sort of big battle we're explicitly trying to avoid?
Because Zolgen is watching everything in town so is aware of her (or it to him).
And it is completely IC for him to do what he is doing. If you deny me doing this you deny my ability to be Zolgen in the RP. Especially since Sakura was not at all discreet in her use of her power, I mean she just ATE a vampire rave.
That set Zolgen off. Cause he now knows AM is in the city and two it has Sakura's anti-spirit powers. Which is bad.
Zolgen has like, 50 breeding pits in the sewers. All he would get from that encounter is a few dead insects and the knowledge that a servant is running around. Not that dangerous.
It also means he'll likely drag Law into it to help deal with AM - a spiritual anomaly like him might have a trick up its sleeve. And if he senses Rider attacking someone, Law won't hesitate to get the iron wire and bottles out.OK, is there a reason you insist on attempting to kill off one of Lantz's characters and dragging us into the sort of big battle we're explicitly trying to avoid?
Because Zolgen is watching everything in town so is aware of her (or it to him).
And it is completely IC for him to do what he is doing. If you deny me doing this you deny my ability to be Zolgen in the RP. Especially since Sakura was not at all discreet in her use of her power, I mean she just ATE a vampire rave.
That set Zolgen off. Cause he now knows AM is in the city and two it has Sakura's anti-spirit powers. Which is bad.
Look, this is not meant to be a combat-based RP. You're trying to drag Lantz into a battle he has no realistic chance of winning and does not want, which is going to cause exactly the same damn problems we had last time, and then you'll insist it is Lantz's fault and try to get him kicked because you're intentionally stirring up trouble.
It also means he'll likely drag Law into it to help deal with AM - a spiritual anomaly like him might have a trick up its sleeve. And if he senses Rider attacking someone, Law won't hesitate to get the iron wire and bottles out.OK, is there a reason you insist on attempting to kill off one of Lantz's characters and dragging us into the sort of big battle we're explicitly trying to avoid?
Because Zolgen is watching everything in town so is aware of her (or it to him).
And it is completely IC for him to do what he is doing. If you deny me doing this you deny my ability to be Zolgen in the RP. Especially since Sakura was not at all discreet in her use of her power, I mean she just ATE a vampire rave.
That set Zolgen off. Cause he now knows AM is in the city and two it has Sakura's anti-spirit powers. Which is bad.
Which is exactly the damn problem. You guys are abusing your powers to force other people to RP how you want them to or to remove them from the RP entirely. You should absolutely not be doing that.
Look, this is not meant to be a combat-based RP. You're trying to drag Lantz into a battle he has no realistic chance of winning and does not want, which is going to cause exactly the same damn problems we had last time, and then you'll insist it is Lantz's fault and try to get him kicked because you're intentionally stirring up trouble.
Then you miss the point of an RP like this.
You play you character, even if that means adapting to unexpected situations you do it.
Because that is what it would be like if this was an actually real. You have to be the character for the RP and react as if it was real, not a game.
Saying "NONONO, this not what we want" does not matter, cause you are denying the ability for others to play their character correctly and to their full ability.
It is just insulting to them and to the spirit of the RP itself.
And you aren't forcing Knick to RP in a way he doesn't to by forcing Rider to myrder him at every oppurtunity? Grow some fucking Balls and realize that everything going exactly how you want to is boring as shit.
...You're asking me to play my character entirely against his purpose, creation, and what he is.
He's a Sin Eater of the Advocate/Gatekeeper archtypes. He maintains the barrier between the worlds, and that means from both sides. He'll help ghosts move on if he can, but if he can't, or they're attacking people, he will show no mercy. And that means sealing or destruction. So Mike, if Rider starts attacking people, Law becomes interested because she is, for lack of a better term, a ghost.
And unless she can very, very quickly explain why she tried to murder a man just for existing, he'll seal her without question. Hell, he might just seal her even if she does explain, because she's a threat.
It is not a matter of "adapting to unexpected situations". How the fuck is Sakura meant to survive an attack from Gil, Karna etc.? You're putting him in a position where there is no satisfactory outcome.
I think the point people are trying to make is, if Zolgen does notice that Sakura is around and that she can use Angra Mainyu's power so freely, it's odd to not expect him to seek allies to deal with her. Particularly given his backstory and knowing how out of his league he would be.
It is not a matter of "adapting to unexpected situations". How the fuck is Sakura meant to survive an attack from Gil, Karna etc.? You're putting him in a position where there is no satisfactory outcome.
Who said they would be the ones doing it?
Think like Zolgen, he not going to get the powerful entities that are hard to predict. He would recruit people like Fate, Forest, or even hell even trick Amelia to help. People he know their general actions and people that are not as difficult to track. He would also recruit Law if he learns his nature (which will probably happen cause he interested in him).
Really, think like Zolgen, he not stupid. Specialists and predicable elements are better then all powerful entities that defeat anything, cause there is no chance he can manipulate or predict them.
I think the point people are trying to make is, if Zolgen does notice that Sakura is around and that she can use Angra Mainyu's power so freely, it's odd to not expect him to seek allies to deal with her. Particularly given his backstory and knowing how out of his league he would be.
Karna and Law are Brah and Arch's characters. I asked Elf that they be made to stay away from me. They've been told as much. As such Knick your idea is somewhat flawed
Without hesitation the shadow power swallowed the mass group of what Sakura realized were vampires without allowing them to scream.
Yes, that is true, but there is no real IC reason why he should notice. Knick is just going out of his way to force a conflict that isn't desired by at least one party and which cannot reasonably be ended without deaths.
Karna and Law are Brah and Arch's characters. I asked Elf that they be made to stay away from me. They've been told as much. As such Knick your idea is somewhat flawed
And just like that you prove you are full of shit. I have not been told AT ALL by Elf to keep Karna away from your characters, you are merely lying because you dont want to deal with them. As soon as I'm home ill gladly dig through my last month of history of Skype messages with Elf.
Go fuck yourself Lantz, you are seriously stepping out of your fucking bounds, and this is where I draw the fucking Line in the metaphorical sand you fucking swine.
Yes, that is true, but there is no real IC reason why he should notice. Knick is just going out of his way to force a conflict that isn't desired by at least one party and which cannot reasonably be ended without deaths.
Zolgen has familiars EVERYWHERE, he is keeping tabs on all the diffrent elements he can.
Vampires are a big element he wary of, especially if they organize, so he has insects watching them.
Then Sakura went and ate them. If they showed up in the middle of nowhere he probably wouldn't notice that quickly.
Brah, Lantz does not know what Elf has or has not conveyed to you, all he knows is what she told him. And, yes, she did tell both him and also me that she had told you and Arch to stay away from Lantz's characters.
Brah, Lantz does not know what Elf has or has not conveyed to you, all he knows is what she told him. And, yes, she did tell both him and also me that she had told you and Arch to stay away from Lantz's characters.
Couldnt give less of a fuck about what she (may) have told Magos, I'm saying that lantz is lying through his teeth in regards to what Elf has (not) told me.
Honestly Mike.
If Lantz cannot think and forces other characters to react due to his actions, it is his fault.
Because all the characters sheets are on the forum, he can look at them and he can get a general idea if people will react.
But despite this, he thought it was a good idea to eat a rave worth of vampires for no reason. As soon as they arrive in the city. When there are other elements already functioning and keeping tabs on people.
Cannot say anything to me, when it is ENTIRELY lantz's fault for my characters actions. Talk to your friend and make him realize his actions WILL have consequences with other characters. If you don't want that. DO NOT RP WITH US. Cause we all find that to be enjoyable and fun.
Let me re-iterativ then so it gets through your empty skull; Elf has not told me shit in regards to not interacting with lantz's mongoloids, and for that reason he cannot tell who I can or cannot interact with (which he can't do anyway because he's not the fucking GM, despite what he believes)
Knick that doesn't matter. I've been clear that I want fighting to at best minimal. Part of the game is respecting the wishes of other players. I don't mind encountering Zolgen and doing whatever but I don't want a huge fight.Guys. I said DROP IT.
he is the knight of chaos because Rin calls him a knight (and he is a knight servant) and he spreads chaos death and destruction on Rin's orders.
I'm not confusing anything. As I said all of that is superfluous to Archer,,the character I'm going to play.
Lantz, gonna be honest here, putting some extra effort in to fix the problems in your sheets as best you can may be your only chance at this point...
The worse that can happen at this point is the same thing that is more likely than not to happen if he does nothing, so why not try?
... Uh, well then.Oh, no. I'm not. Because honestly this pisses me off more than anything, Mike literally killing his forum over a retarded motherfuckign chimpanzee that doesn't at this point I think even deserve to have a fucking name. It's just it now. Fuck you It.
If you really can't stand it anymore then I won't say anything in opposition. Saddened to see you leave Alice, but I don't want to contribute to your stress or unhappiness by influencing you.
Wish you the best.
Magos, watch the languge.
Yeah, I don't want Alice to leave, she's done a lot for the forum and she is my friend, but it may well do her good to leave right now.Being friends with lantz and being friends with Revy/Alice seems to be a conflict of interest, because all lantz does is cause Revy/Alice stress and you back lantz up and defend him.
I apologize YOLF, but I don't take friends getting hurt - physically or emotionally - well. At all.
Being friends with lantz and being friends with Revy/Alice seems to be a conflict of interest, because all lantz does is cause Revy/Alice stress and you back lantz up and defend him.
This situation has made me cry, I am an utterly unemotional twenty two year old with aspergers, and this has made me cry.
This will be the fifth time in my memory that such a thing has happened.
I don't even know why, and that is the worst part.
It makes no sense, I am not close to any of you, this should be entirely irrelevant to me, so long as the game continues.
Yet for some reason I started crying over this.
So in light of everything that has happened . . .
I'm enlisting a Co-GM.
The Co-GM will be in charge of things like player debates and making sure people are following the rules. Basically they will be my Enforcer while I can do things like focus on plot and what not.
So, everyone, welcome your new Judge, NACHOS.
Less surprised, more confused. If this was something involving people I was even remotely close to I would have less issues with how this has affected me. But this...
I really should just be apathetic about this like I am with most things that happen.
I pick strange times to feel things.
Sakura smiled as she appeared in the dark city. "Satoshi I need you to scout out the area while I clean out our new residence" she said pointing to an abandoned factory near their arrival point.Take a look at this punctuation, if you'd please, and no, I am not kidding. This punctuation is horrendous and makes my heart bleed out. Where are the commas? I count three. More than thrice that would be required. Even reading this post made me feel out of breath and wheezy!
Satoshi grunted and leapt onto a nearby rooftop lamenting his mistakes in their battle.
His features had become pale and his eyes gold. ' in the future, don't worry about breaking bones' he thought finding the nearby area seemingly deserted.
Sakura, on the other hand was greeted with the sounds of heavy dance music and the feeling of immediate violence. Without hesitation the shadow power swallowed the mass group of what Sakura realized were vampires without allowing them to scream.
"Good, nice and clean" she chuckled.
****
Sakura Tohsaka landed on a rooftop in the west end on the city. "Note to self, carry landing braces" she muttered noticing her near appearance in mid air.
Switching on her recorder Sakura began her log " Entry one, gear is mostly gone, need replacements, cityscape seems charged with prana, will make further entries when my gear is back" she said switching the recorder off.
Looking around she found the roof access and began attempting to unlock it to avoid using magic as much as possible.
Thank you, Soldat. That made me laugh. Though now I am wondering how to make social links work without them being entirely arbitrary.
And why Mako has yet to be approved.
A standard far too high, the only conceivable way I could in theory manage that is to have every one of my posts beta read.It's only far too high because throughout the entirety of 1.0 you were given a standard far too low. Good writing is in the rules, and I am here to see the rules upheld.
And even then you'd kick me out if it wasn't beta read exactly to your standards.Completely wrong, if you were to make a post like... anyone else's, you'd be perfectly fine. Like a said, one or two punctuation errors is not enough, neither are grammar errors. Yours simply have too much.
You are demanding I magically get better overnight, it's unfair and frankly I suspect just an excuse to get rid of me from the game. You ask the impossible sir, at least in the short term.If I wanted an excuse to have you out of the game I would have listened to 90% of what people were saying and double charged you with bad writing and godmodding for your first post. I don't want an excuse. I want the rules to be followed.
[Elf, Today 5:33 AM]: Then I can make Chris my Pet Boy.Even more lewd. :V
Also, why did Alice decided to leave exactly?
Am fairly certain that's not remotely related to Emiya Shirou.
And Arch is gone too apparently.
And Arch is gone too apparently.
Think he just finally just chose to put Lantz on ignore.
Also Shiro is not an uncommon Japanese game. Also he is fairly obviously not who would become Shirou Emiya.
I woke up to getting to RP alongside Daiki again - teaming up, temporary or not, with Enkidu no less - and Daiki's Enkidu might also "vanish" because this is exactly the type of bullshit that lead to Daiki leaving previously.
Think he just finally just chose to put Lantz on ignore.
But ya, Shiro a really nice guy. Really patient, really generous.
That is unless you hurt children or are a monster of some kind. Especially a monster that resembles humans. Then he will show you why he is the 4th of Burial Agency, the monsters of the church that Ciel is the weakest of.
He was a member of the Burial Agency. He is fairly duty bound to kill monsters such as Rider.
Also he would probably take care of the child that was being held by the monster afterwords, bringing her to live with the other kids.
But overall there are far to many monsters in the Nexus City so he only kills those that threaten others. If he does not see Rider drink blood or kill he would probably let her go.
So if ya don't want conflict with the 4th member of the Burial Agency (ranked higher then Merem, who has 4 divine beasts) don't let him see Rider do those things, she probably picked up how to be careful especially around church people anyway through the years.
(ranked higher then Merem, who has 4 divine beasts)
Well, yes, although it is hardly Rider's fault that she is like she is.
Except that said kid would be trying to kill him, because, to him, Rider is not a "monster", Rider is family. If you kill his aunt (or even attempt to do so), then as far as he is concerned you are a monster yourself, and nothing you say is going to convince him otherwise (at least if successful, if you fail it's possible that an apology and a promise to not do it again would be enough).
And, no, he can't be "disarmed" (because he uses magic), and nor is the fact that he's horribly outclassed going to stop him (because he's a kid, and his parents keep him the hell away from anything that can endanger him).
Killing Rider wouldn't be easy, though, she is still a Heroic Spirit.
Well, yes, although it is hardly Rider's fault that she is like she is.
Does not matter really. Not the fault of magi that they where born that way either, but they still Heritics. The church hunts heritcs and inhuman monsters, it is just what they do. If they are born that way means nothing to them.
QuoteExcept that said kid would be trying to kill him, because, to him, Rider is not a "monster", Rider is family. If you kill his aunt (or even attempt to do so), then as far as he is concerned you are a monster yourself, and nothing you say is going to convince him otherwise (at least if successful, if you fail it's possible that an apology and a promise to not do it again would be enough).
He think it some sort of mental control, he has seen such things, both by dead apostles and by the vampires of the city (especially since some of the kids he takes care of where basically being treated as mobile blood bags). He would basically treat him as a kid with a lot of trauma and try to break him out of it. Not that that actually what it is.
QuoteAnd, no, he can't be "disarmed" (because he uses magic), and nor is the fact that he's horribly outclassed going to stop him (because he's a kid, and his parents keep him the hell away from anything that can endanger him).
He will be bound by his shadow the moment he takes a hostile action to Shiro, a very effective method of stopping brainwashed kids from going bonkers. Cause he can do everything Ciel can do with Black Keys but better.
No she is a servant, very diffrent. And Shiro can fight servants. Ciel the weakest can only fight defensively vs them, number 4 can actually match them. He is a monster.
Then he's not a very good person. Murdering someone in cold blood just because of how they were born is plain evil.
Well, sure, my point is that "kills someone just for existing" is not overly compatible with "nice".
Also, Kiyoshi is a magus (well, sort-of, anyway) but also a child, so what would he do there?
I quit. I'm physically incapable of getting better grammar. That's a fact, not an opinion. Have your fun guys.Delete your post then and holy shit I am rejoicing.
I think it's Elf's turn to post, right?
Should we wait for her or just get going?
I think it's Elf's turn to post, right?
Should we wait for her or just get going?
I will be having a certain big boy of mine become Zolgen's buddy soon.
Supernaturals reign free and without restraint. Humans are killed on sight.
You would think that a good number of humans would have gotten used to all the weirdness and not run screaming from everything.
Just a thought.
So without Lantz what's your plan Mike? Rider need a ride?
Shirou going to be investigating a murder and the magical fallout around it? Or are you planning on linking up with another group.
Ughhh.
I have no idea what to do with Tokiomi after he turns down Minato's answer.
Also where is Minato's house?
Though, what are the odds of Shiro being acquainted with Minato if the dorm was set in no-man's land?
At the moment Daiki and I are trying to coordinate what to do next - besides interaction, but Lyco Aptera would eagerly join Shiro in putting such scum in their place.
Though I should tell you, Minato is very good at reading people at this point, if Tokiomi has nowhere to go and lies about it, Minato will call him on it.
I talked to Elf about it on Skype. Basically the supernatural rule and kill the normal humans. There probably are a few humans, but we would have to hear from Elf herself.
I talked to Elf about it on Skype. Basically the supernatural rule and kill the normal humans. There probably are a few humans, but we would have to hear from Elf herself.If that's the case, would anyone mind if I use the location as Pyramid Head's stomping grounds?
If that's the case, would anyone mind if I use the location as Pyramid Head's stomping grounds?
Pyramid Head means trouble which is always welcome in a RP. Ofc, we would go near his living place, Lyco. x)Welp, Lyco Aptera had better practice using his tail to hit homeruns. XP
Pyramid Head means trouble which is always welcome in a RP. Ofc, we would go near his living place, Lyco. x)
Hmm, is it possible for Pyramid Head to do the "rape" part without getting to the "kill" part? :P
I kinda just want Lyco Aptera to meet Phoenix. They would probably get along really well.More than likely, yes, yes they would. Especially since they share the value of friendship and the "element" of "heat" and a dislike of the cold.
I can work with this, just give me some time to concoct an adequate response.
I...guess we can arrange something?Pyramid Head means trouble which is always welcome in a RP. Ofc, we would go near his living place, Lyco. x)
Hmm, is it possible for Pyramid Head to do the "rape" part without getting to the "kill" part? :P
Nope. He'll brutally rape and kill you while dragging his knife slowly on the ground to inspire as much fear in your friends and family as possible!
Threshold Resonance: When a Sin-Eater performs an act that resonates with his geist’s Threshold, he may regain plasm as the geist itself gains power due to the emotional strength of the action. A Sin-Eater with the Threshold of the Torn (death by violence) may regain plasm through violence to the brink of death — both by perpetrating it (possibly at a cost to Synergy) or suffering it (at a cost to health and sanity). The Sin- Eater must feel a deep and moving connection to the Threshold to regain plasm in this fashion. Typically, this means a Sin-Eater generates plasm when suffering damage or testing for degeneration of Synergy as a result of an action taken in conjunction with the Threshold. Some Sin-Eaters become “pain junkies” and deliberately seek out situations in which their Threshold will cause them suffering, thereby giving them a shot of plasm. When a Sin-Eater gains plasm in this fashion, the amount gained depends on how much the Sin-Eater is in conjunction with the Threshold
You obviously haven't played Silent Hill, Mike.
I...guess we can arrange something?Pyramid Head means trouble which is always welcome in a RP. Ofc, we would go near his living place, Lyco. x)
Hmm, is it possible for Pyramid Head to do the "rape" part without getting to the "kill" part? :P
Quote from: Geist: The Sin EatersThreshold Resonance: When a Sin-Eater performs an act that resonates with his geist’s Threshold, he may regain plasm as the geist itself gains power due to the emotional strength of the action. A Sin-Eater with the Threshold of the Torn (death by violence) may regain plasm through violence to the brink of death — both by perpetrating it (possibly at a cost to Synergy) or suffering it (at a cost to health and sanity). The Sin- Eater must feel a deep and moving connection to the Threshold to regain plasm in this fashion. Typically, this means a Sin-Eater generates plasm when suffering damage or testing for degeneration of Synergy as a result of an action taken in conjunction with the Threshold. Some Sin-Eaters become “pain junkies” and deliberately seek out situations in which their Threshold will cause them suffering, thereby giving them a shot of plasm. When a Sin-Eater gains plasm in this fashion, the amount gained depends on how much the Sin-Eater is in conjunction with the Threshold
...Hey, looks like your BDSM game stuff is back on the table Mike. Lawrence is a Torn.
I wasn't sure if that was a request or not. I was planning to only do implications and the such when it does come time to dish out the more unpleasant actions of the Executioner.I...guess we can arrange something?Pyramid Head means trouble which is always welcome in a RP. Ofc, we would go near his living place, Lyco. x)
Hmm, is it possible for Pyramid Head to do the "rape" part without getting to the "kill" part? :P
Lol, well, I'm OK with the concept of my characters getting raped (aside from Sakura's daughter, because it would break her a lot more), but I don't really want them killed. So, getting involved with that might be interesting, if there's a way to avoid the "kill" bit.
Elf has reduced me to a lewd creature. T-take responsibility, ok?!
Elf has reduced me to a lewd creature. T-take responsibility, ok?!
Alright, that's it. Where the fuck is the Skype group of this RP.
He'd regain plasm, just from doing enough physical pain and violence. Not much, but it'd be something.
Of course, damage done to him is different, and being a Sin Eater means he can't pass out due to pain or the like. I'd think Rider would like that far, FAR more than Law would.
I wasn't sure if that was a request or not. I was planning to only do implications and the such when it does come time to dish out the more unpleasant actions of the Executioner.I...guess we can arrange something?Pyramid Head means trouble which is always welcome in a RP. Ofc, we would go near his living place, Lyco. x)
Hmm, is it possible for Pyramid Head to do the "rape" part without getting to the "kill" part? :P
Lol, well, I'm OK with the concept of my characters getting raped (aside from Sakura's daughter, because it would break her a lot more), but I don't really want them killed. So, getting involved with that might be interesting, if there's a way to avoid the "kill" bit.
Anyways, I'm not breaking him out just yet.
Elf has reduced me to a lewd creature. T-take responsibility, ok?!
Alright, that's it. Where the fuck is the Skype group of this RP.
We take in mostly anyone who asks to join. The exceptions being people we collectively have voted to not invite (Yourself, Lantz), or people we know would not enjoy being there.
Elf has reduced me to a lewd creature. T-take responsibility, ok?!
Elf has reduced me to a lewd creature. T-take responsibility, ok?!I reduce almost everyone to a lewd creature. It's my nature, I can't help it!
And which of the other mods would ever approve of that bullshit, cutiepie?
Also, Cherry and Brah at least attempt to play nice.
And which of the other mods would ever approve of that bullshit, cutiepie?
Technically, I don't need their approval. I own the forum.
Obviously, I have no intention of doing it, because I'm not as petty and pathetic as you, but if I wanted to, I could.
Do you realize if you started banning people for personal reasons they would just pack toys and leave you alone?
And which of the other mods would ever approve of that bullshit, cutiepie?
Technically, I don't need their approval. I own the forum.
Obviously, I have no intention of doing it, because I'm not as petty and pathetic as you, but if I wanted to, I could.
Oh but you are, you just know it'd end in a shitstorm beyond compare that'd result in every sane member (read: everyone not called you and Lantz) leaving this place, which would kill the forum alltogether.
Also it's adorable that you preach how using power when in charge is a horrendous crime beyond compare and yet you threaten people with that same power over petty arguments. Hilarious, even.
Do you realize if you started banning people for personal reasons they would just pack toys and leave you alone?
Strange, because they seem perfectly OK with hanging around on your "RP chat" despite the fact that I'm not allowed in it for "personal reasons"....
Because we don't threaten people with administrator power over petty bullshit.
I'll end the argument here, because Mike has repeatedly proven himself to be impossible to reason with.
Strange, because they seem perfectly OK with hanging around on your "RP chat" despite the fact that I'm not allowed in it for "personal reasons"....
Loved how we both had the same idea for alignments. Mainly people that fail horrible at being neutral and made sure to point that out.
DISTRACTION GO!So like Ishtar or Hera. Joy.
Making a god character. Not nasuverse but 100% original, minus inspiration.
She is a vindictive woman.
They are fine really. I liked them.
I think you did well on both Rin and Mille, Revy/Alice - don't worry!Yay! :D
Loved how we both had the same idea for alignments. Mainly people that fail horrible at being neutral and made sure to point that out.Characters in denial about that are fun. :3 I think most people have trouble playing neutral though because most people can't quite process that level of morality. They can see black and white, but not quite that grey area in-between. So in trying to be neutral, they still swing heavily one way or the other, not really knowing what neutral really means in the end. It can be a really tough alignment to get right for that reason alone. ^^"
Quote from: KnickLoved how we both had the same idea for alignments. Mainly people that fail horrible at being neutral and made sure to point that out.Characters in denial about that are fun. :3 I think most people have trouble playing neutral though because most people can't quite process that level of morality. They can see black and white, but not quite that grey area in-between. So in trying to be neutral, they still swing heavily one way or the other, not really knowing what neutral really means in the end. It can be a really tough alignment to get right for that reason alone. ^^"
Neutral is the rational alignment. Not concerned with good or evil.
It does not mean do nothing, It means you act smartly and not influenced by morality and desires.
Saying those that are neutral do nothing is ignorant and foolish.
Neutral is the rational alignment. Not concerned with good or evil.
It does not mean do nothing, It means you act smartly and not influenced by morality and desires.
Saying those that are neutral do nothing is ignorant and foolish.
There is also Lawful Neutral who obeys law over his personal inclinations or morality codes.
Late on the reply on this but that could work with Law, if the driver starts egging him on/gains a measure of control. The Driver will be very very happy with the idea of feeling sex again, and inflicting violence with it. Law's more squeemish, but the Driver could browbeat him into it.He'd regain plasm, just from doing enough physical pain and violence. Not much, but it'd be something.
Of course, damage done to him is different, and being a Sin Eater means he can't pass out due to pain or the like. I'd think Rider would like that far, FAR more than Law would.
Well, yes, Rider would very definitely enjoy that. She's a hardcore sadist.
Personally, though, I tend to prefer situations where the sub is female (although not exclusively so), which is why I have tended to set such situations up when possible. Plus, this is a rare occasion where Rider would probably go too far even for me.
Late on the reply on this but that could work with Law, if the driver starts egging him on/gains a measure of control. The Driver will be very very happy with the idea of feeling sex again, and inflicting violence with it. Law's more squeemish, but the Driver could browbeat him into it.He'd regain plasm, just from doing enough physical pain and violence. Not much, but it'd be something.
Of course, damage done to him is different, and being a Sin Eater means he can't pass out due to pain or the like. I'd think Rider would like that far, FAR more than Law would.
Well, yes, Rider would very definitely enjoy that. She's a hardcore sadist.
Personally, though, I tend to prefer situations where the sub is female (although not exclusively so), which is why I have tended to set such situations up when possible. Plus, this is a rare occasion where Rider would probably go too far even for me.
There is also Lawful Neutral who obeys law over his personal inclinations or morality codes.
Damn Tom's sheeeeet. I feel like I've missed abilities still, and am paranoid for that for the RP itself, and I don't know if it's good enough, and it was a complicated mess to write, and it feels sue-ish even though he's not really that way and oh god why is this so haaarrrdd. ;_;
Damn Tom's sheeeeet. I feel like I've missed abilities still, and am paranoid for that for the RP itself, and I don't know if it's good enough, and it was a complicated mess to write, and it feels sue-ish even though he's not really that way and oh god why is this so haaarrrdd. ;_;
Working on post, may take a bit.
Social link?
Also, La Folia, there's more than Gabe than just a pretty face. He can also be a giant fucking nerd.
Good thing that she's curious about everything. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPNDqAF03V8)
(side note get on skyperino, we miss you)
With F/SN it can pull off characters that reached the end of their roles in their stories well mainly because their stories didn't exactly have happy endings. Continuing after what seems to be an MC that has gotten the best possible outcome isn't exactly exciting as they already have everything going for them and the only way you can make that interesting is if you write a story about their fall.
My humor shines through a bit on this too. Strictly speaking it is a sword of cutting, and Excalibur is not, Invisible Air is a better cutting tool than Excalibur in most cases. Also the persona three Excalibur is actually weaker than the Holy Grail Lucifer. So it is superior to the Excalibur from it's original world as well.
Plus It is a Holy Grail Sword of Light Forged From the Jewels of Lucifer's Crown...
Plus, gems don't even make for good swords.
My humor shines through a bit on this too. Strictly speaking it is a sword of cutting, and Excalibur is not, Invisible Air is a better cutting tool than Excalibur in most cases. Also the persona three Excalibur is actually weaker than the Holy Grail Lucifer. So it is superior to the Excalibur from it's original world as well.
Plus It is a Holy Grail Sword of Light Forged From the Jewels of Lucifer's Crown...
And Excalibur is a Divine Construct forged from mankind's collective hopes and dreams by Fae. There's a reason it's "Strongest Holy Sword" we know, even when we know the specifics of stuff like Balmung and Gram.
Plus, gems don't even make for good swords.
Nope, they're too brittle.
Diamond's the hardest substance on earth. Give me a hammer and I can turn it into powder.
Actually, the best armor types in video games metal wise (assuming they don't use mythril or oricalchum instead) tend to be platinum every bit as often as gold. ...which is an even softer metal, but eh. :V
Really, in the case of a lot of those games, it's not really like that for a practical reason so much as a convenient shorthand for, "this here sword's even better than that there sword if yer too lazy to look at the stats!" I don't think it happens as often now, and if anything, likely any gold or platinum sword is either just plated with those metals or like Goldie's armor are enchanted to the brim.
Old fashioned RPGs aren't the best reference for that, in other words. :P
Though in the case of Persona 3? I don't remember there being anything about gem swords like that. Granted, I haven't gotten far into the game, but I would think that even though this is a game where high school kids summon powerful spirits via doing something that suspiciously looks like shooting themselves in the head, that there would be slightly more realism with the weapons at least, material-wise. So there's that to consider. ...People who have gotten further into Persona 3 can correct me on that though. ^^"
It is made out of jewels, but they are also jewels from the crown of an angel so that makes it speshul.
The description also states that it surpasses Excalibur, but P3's Excalibur doesnt shoot beamus and it isn't made of humanity's hopes and dreams either.
So yeah, decided to approach the two vampire girls. (Well, if Lyco's fine with it) Elf & Kat, do note that you don't have to fast forward your travel to the No Man's Land just to answer. Do w/e you want before that. Just remember that when you get close to your destination, these two socially awkward beings will accost you.I've had some power-outages so I've had trouble responding up until now, but I have no issue with meeting up with the two lady vampires.
In doubt, leave the negotiation to the dragon.Well, he has been "the messenger" and he has yet to be killed, so Lyco Aptera apparently has some level of skill in diplomacy.
Or it's the fangs.And the raptor-like talons. :3c
Brah: Lorelei has servant-stat rank A+ magic ability? Seriously? That's higher than Medea....
Brah: Lorelei has servant-stat rank A+ magic ability? Seriously? That's higher than Medea....
And, the other stats being servant level seems pretty odd, too. She's on the same level as Rider according to you, and I don't see how she can be that strong.
Still, why Durandal?
Random Noble Phantasm not even needed in the first place.
Still, why Durandal?
Random Noble Phantasm not even needed in the first place.
Bazett gets Fraggle Rock.
Isn't that considered the only Noble Phantasm usable by modern humans?
I mean having the sword does not mean it is currently a noble Phantasm. Rather it is the sword that would become a Noble Phantasm. It is probably weaker then whatever the the NP version that is tied to a Heroic Spirit.
Bazett gets Fraggle Rock.
Isn't that considered the only Noble Phantasm usable by modern humans?
I mean having the sword does not mean it is currently a noble Phantasm. Rather it is the sword that would become a Noble Phantasm. It is probably weaker then whatever the the NP version that is tied to a Heroic Spirit.
Do you just not read the rest of the profile or do you legit don't know who Lorelei is? She is pretty much the strongest known living human, who can use True Magic-tier normal Magecraft.
I repeat, with the kind of magic Rin could pick up in a week, Lorelei is approaching Zelretch-tier.
Physical stats are obviously Reinforcement.
Lorelei hunts Dead Apostle Ancestors (who are easily High-Servant tier) on red moons (where they are at their strongest) for sport
Simply put, she's the Bruce Lee of modern Magi.
Not gonna bother convincing you when I have no purpose to, you ignore every worthwhile point
and that the character is already approved.
Course it didn't stop me. Im taking creative freedom about a character we know next-to-nothing about, whereas he-who-is-no-longer-with-us-and-shall-not-be-named raped canon in it's bunghole.
I agree that her stats are bit to high, but even still he is not flat out tossing aside what we know about canon. He is taking many creative liberties like I did when I made my #4 of the burial agency. Even if he was an Expy.
But ya, stats do feel just a bit to high. Would prefer if you have spells that boost them to those level for a moment rather then it just being constant reinforcement. Would feel more like a supermage that way.
No, you are ridiculously overpowering your character beyond any reasonable level. Which is just as much "raping canon" as anything Lantz ever did. She is not a better magus than Medea, to claim she is is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
I agree that her stats are bit to high, but even still he is not flat out tossing aside what we know about canon. He is taking many creative liberties like I did when I made my #4 of the burial agency. Even if he was an Expy.
I think he is tossing out canon in some cases, especially with regard to her magic ability. It is stated time and time again that magic has got weaker in the modern era. So, how is a modern magus at the top level of magical power (which is what A+ implies)?
"Strongest known living human" is still several levels below "heroic spirit".
Lorelei hunts Dead Apostle Ancestors (who are easily High-Servant tier) on red moons (where they are at their strongest) for sport
Simply put, she's the Bruce Lee of modern Magi.
Also, I'm not convinced DAAs are "high-servant tier".
In classic RP terms, she's someone who with her base spell (let's use "Magic Missile" as an example), is capable of doing 999999999 damage. In other words she's that person who pours all of her points into stats and can do everything better than everyone even with the most basic skills. So, yes, her magic capability is on par with or exceeds Medea's. Do agree parts of the sheet are a little over the top, though.
In particular, her magic stat is absurd. There is no way in hell she is better at magic than Medea, which is what you are implying.
In particular, her magic stat is absurd. There is no way in hell she is better at magic than Medea, which is what you are implying.
The output or potential might be superior, it doesn't mean she equals or can best Medea in a match. AoG magecraft is ridiculously OP. Even Aoko with the Fifth can't beat her.
What Daiki said. Lorelei probably could never beat Medea in a straight Magecraft fight, but Medea has the physical abilities of a wet paper bag and would get slapped the shit out of her with some holy mithril while Lorelei fended off her attacks.
Yes, which is my point. If he says she as A+ magic ability on the servant scale, that means she is as good as the best AoG magicians (who would also come out as A+ magic ability). Which just seems absurd to me.
The "Magic Ability" stat isn't a measure of prana (which I don't think she has an exceptional amount of anyway)
it's a measure of how good she is at magic. I can't see how she can be as good as the best AoG magicians.
Slamming a clawed hand down, the resident's fist crumpled the hood of the Camaro like a sheet of paper...
...the pale-faced man picked up the entire car and threw it at the sorceress.
She simply waved her hand, and a blast of wind slammed into the car with the force of a train. It was crushed on impact,
Her ever depended car, dubbed the Forestmobile by her last student...
...And now it was completely ruined.
Finally, my first post! :D ...and naturally it sucks while being ambitious at the same time.
Tokiomi finally going home. He has had enough shit happen today. He needs to take his mind of things with magus things.
Dude, ya' got a post on Shiro, man.
Dude, ya' got a post on Shiro, man.
I did his intro post. He chilling out in his church's yard sitting on a swing while armed to the teeth.
It out of character to leave the church at night unless he has a decent reason.
Yeah, and my characters are trying to interact with him.
Yeah, and my characters are trying to interact with him.
Missed the post then, will get to it.
Edit: Ah, see the post. I would chage a few minuets to like 15 bare minimun, and that if they have a crazy driver going fast, Shiro is in the north west part of the no man's land.
Hmm about lorelei, do I think she could beat Medea in a fight? No, no I do not, not in the slightest she is in the range that Medea would take the most seriously and though she's strong I do believe that Medea is a lot stronger.
Posted, sorry for not noticing.
Also when someone says a few it generally viewed as less then 10, but ya you are technically correct.
Also surprised they did not notice the Katana.
God, so much lewd. My maiden heart is forever stained black.I go to sleep contemplating how to respond to "You're a bloody dragon" and wake up to all this lewdness. Truly Elf has corrupted you, Brah. =P
Good thing black is my favorite color.
Lycodrake, you should know I am an all corrupting force in which there is no escape. None at all . . .
Salto, it's fine. Also, acupuncture in combat reminds me of that one Jet Li movie directed by the guy who did "Taken". I think it was called "Kiss of the Dragon" or something like that. It was one of the few Jet Li movies I really liked and had some really good and brutal fight scenes.
Even though Donnie Yen is a superior martial artist because motherfucking Donnie Yen.
Yeah, Donnie Yen is pretty cool~
Also, acupuncture in combat reminds me of that one Jet Li movie directed by the guy who did "Taken". I think it was called "Kiss of the Dragon" or something like that. It was one of the few Jet Li movies I really liked and had some really good and brutal fight scenes.
Josip is observing the vampire district, he'll probably notice anyone who comes in or out.It'll come as soon as Moony gets Hakuman out of the car.
People may bump into Geralt, if wish so, in No Man's Land
Waiting for the signal from Magos when to introduce Her Moeness.
Also good god it's getting lewder and lewder.Hey now. Lyco Aptera is being a very polite dragon. :P
No fur/scalie porn. Ew.Literally joking, Kat. emoticons should give that away
tentacles only, no items, final destination
Frost mentioned!
Daiki knows who he is.
Go full haremAnd now I feel lost. >.>
Minerva, Alex, Chris whar
Also, yes. Look upon me and see what Elf's influence hath wrought! She who can corrupt even the purest of the pure! For alas, my flawless purity is now tarnished! Now I'm... still pretty pure, oddly enough just rather lewd considering what I was before. :V:'3c
Josip is observing the vampire district, he'll probably notice anyone who comes in or out.It'll come as soon as Moony gets Hakuman out of the car.
People may bump into Geralt, if wish so, in No Man's Land
Waiting for the signal from Magos when to introduce Her Moeness.
And yes, yes it is. His teenaged daughter from the future and her grouchy, no nonsense sidekick await!
It's most likely my own fault for having not kept track of Law Unto Herself.
Ma- spells should have reduced power (like in-game)on the contrary since they target more than one.
Eh? I thought you were planning on doing stuff with Rider.
Eh? I thought you were planning on doing stuff with Rider.
Is she even in the Nexus yet?
Well, informing me of that (as opposed to leaving me to just set the situation up then wonder where Arch is) would have been nice....While I admit I went beyond my comfort zone in my suggestions I couldn't think of a good way out of actually doing it...
Well, informing me of that (as opposed to leaving me to just set the situation up then wonder where Arch is) would have been nice....While I admit I went beyond my comfort zone in my suggestions I couldn't think of a good way out of actually doing it...
Sorry Mike.
Well, informing me of that (as opposed to leaving me to just set the situation up then wonder where Arch is) would have been nice....While I admit I went beyond my comfort zone in my suggestions I couldn't think of a good way out of actually doing it...
Sorry Mike.
Well, yeah, you just left me kind-of shafted here. If I'd not worked it out then I'd have been left with Rider in a position I didn't want to be in (and, if she'd appeared close to you as originally intended, I have no idea how we could have worked it from there, since Law would have been almost obliged to come after her, and there's no way I'm having her end up in a jar).
This is why Lantz quitting is so shit, because he is actually willing to do the stuff I like, whereas no-one else is. I had something really good planned with him for Rider, and now I don't have a fucking clue where to go at all.
Then why don't you guys RP outside of CE? I don't see how you guys are limited from making RP threads outside of it.
I don't really get why lantz would be the only one willing to do 'stuff you like'.
I could join with ya if you want, Haruna's not doing much at the moment and I was just thinking of having her uh invade some other people anyway.
You can always do something that isn't sexually related with Rider. You can have Rider act as a body guard, you can have her just interact with people normally, you can have her develop a non-sexual relationship with someone, like of friendship or have her work with someone for some reason but have there be conflict between them. There are options.
Hell, if you really want you can her target someone in the city and hunt them down, out of interest or something. It would allow a game of cat and mouse between rider and someone else.
Why you are all about sex, Mike? You aint a teenager.
My suggestion is that if you want to do it that badly then talk with Elf she seems the most willing to do that kind of thing.Dude. I don't think you get just how extreme Mike is...
My suggestion is that if you want to do it that badly then talk with Elf she seems the most willing to do that kind of thing.Dude. I don't think you get just how extreme Mike is...
Bullshit-Zelretch-fic-tier teleporting outside-of-space-and-time dorm with more stuff in it than you can shake a stick at,
Seven or eight personae can create a vast underground labyrinth, perpetuate an infinite time loop, and facilitate full on time travel. Minato has 200 at minimum.
Though it is not outside either time or space, it is affected by time normally but occupies multiple points of space.
Seven or eight personae can create a vast underground labyrinth, perpetuate an infinite time loop, and facilitate full on time travel. Minato has 200 at minimum.
Turning back to the swing he opened a cooler sitting on the ground behind it, taking out a bear. He held it up and showed it to his visitors.
“Want one?”
By the end of this lemon, Brah will be truly corrupted and made a follower of The Elf.
*Points in the vague direction of the text under his profile picture*It was even made official.
So Minato has the desire to create a building that appears in 8 points in space that much, and he had that much time to do it?
Doesn't really matter if he can teleport. He's not the only one in town.
Just don't use it in battle, Kuro. (And no time travel either pls)
Unintentional hilarity.
SHIRO
JUST REACHES INTO A COOLER
PULLS OUT A BEAR
my sides
It's obviously about teddies. He got plenty inside with all the children and offers the excess to visitors.
Her enthusiasm though, was rather adorable. Sort of like a puppy wagging it's tail when someone told it it was a good girl.
Shawnee it is then. I'll post after you do.Just wanting to be sure! Posted.
I just want everyone to know that Moony gave me permission to throw Lucas into the portal.
I mean, you are talking internally with your Geist?Oh right. Driver is jelly as hell of Moedred at the moment.
Thanks for reminding. Could link me last Ellen's post though? I got lost.http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,410.msg18959.html#msg18959 (http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,410.msg18959.html#msg18959)
Also, Elf, rejoice! You're getting an Aacha. And a Hakuno. Behold the power of peer pressure and Popular Demand!
Can I make a suggestion to the rule system? I know you already went through the reboot and everything but It would be nice to see a bit more of standardization of this. It's a fantasy RP so magical abilities are emphasized heavily. Though the magical ability section is really vague. I understand that is in order to be compatible with the many verse systems that we work with. I believe though that it would be nice to split up Magical ability into seperate parameters just like how Speed is now general speed and agility.
I believe that it would be nice modification to have a statistic for Magical Capacity (not unlike the Mana stat in F/SN), Magical Skill (the general level of magical competence) and a section for teh abilities themselves. I say this due to the fact that in the abilities section people still give a statistic along with the abilities themselves often and sometimes it's hard to get a good picture of one's magical ability even if you know their specific skills. It would be a small edit for all the players in the game so far and it would be quick edit to the rules so I hope that you can integrate this in.
And yeah, honestly, a revamp of the magic system might not be a bad idea. A bit of a pain since everyone would have to go back and add that to their sheets, but it might not be a bad idea anyway since we have so many mages running around.
Flying in the same direction his protectorates had escaped, Karna cowardly fled the field, tired of the bird's antics.
His eyes quickly found the building where he could see the metal bird and the blonde vampire arguing with another stranger, and his body followed his gaze, flying at rapid speeds toward the entrance.
With a crashing sound, Karna landed on the ground near the door in a low stance, his suit still flawless despite the dust that was now in the air.
I would have to look it up for myself (my memory is crap at the moment ^^"), but one thing to consider is this: if they can fight each other in spirit form, why don't they do so on a regular basis? That implies there's something disadvantageous to doing so even if it is possible to fight in that form.
Do you ever see Servants in the visual novel fight each other in Spirit Form even when it would be advantageous to do so? Like, say, during the day? They only ever seem to use spirit form to scout and move around to a more tactically sound position.
And I'll remind you in Zero it was pretty much the same thing. Berserkerlot going into spirit form to escape once he got all beat up, Diarmuid going into spirit form to get over the former's jet and then turning physical to stab it with his anti-prana connections spear...
Hmm, Kat, you say that Mordred couldn't strike a spirit that isn't incarnated, but I'm pretty sure that's not true. She can just go into spirit form to attack them, I think.
QuoteHmm, Kat, you say that Mordred couldn't strike a spirit that isn't incarnated, but I'm pretty sure that's not true. She can just go into spirit form to attack them, I think.
Servant specifically assume material forms to be able to deal actual damage. It's just like YOLF and Chris said.
Mike, Servants take physical form to hurt the other Servant's physical form, which in turn harms it's spiritual form. If two invisible, intangible ghosts bump into each other repeatedly, do you think that they'll actually take damage? A battle between Servants is literally just two Spirits trying to hurt each other enough until their spiritual cores are beyond repair, the core taking damage from trying to keep the physical shape together.
Also, if Servants could literally just jump in and out of Spirit Form willy nilly at FTL speeds, no one would ever get hit. That makes for a boring fight.
I see no reason why a spirit cannot hurt another spirit....
You should assume my viewpoint, because I'm right and you're wrong.
And they don't that because they CANT, which is my point.
I see no reason why a spirit cannot hurt another spirit....
Because Nasu said so, and he makes the rules, so if that wasn't Nasu stuff I'd agree with you, but it is, so I won't.
, I'm pretty sure they can go into spirit form in the time it takes to scream "EKSU-KARIBAH!", so why don't they?
I was sort of under the assumption that it was that they were actually more vulnerable to damage by other servants in spirit form, as in a materialized servant can injure a spirit form servant but a spirit form servant can't touch a materialized one.
her sheath, now clean of impurities, rubbed against his length.
her sheath, now clean of impurities, rubbed against his length.
her sheath,
now clean of impurities,
rubbed against his length.
Looks like Forest is mad.
Hopefully she doesn't try testing out some of those potions though, to prove her dominance.Looks like Forest is mad.
See, Forest is a Celt. She's use to flirting by violence and establishing her dominance. More like she doesn't know how to flirt.
You know how elementary school kids will show their affection by picking on the guy/girl that they like? I imagine it's something similar. :V
Get free refill'd on Celica ya lil bitchbest check yourself, nerfed as fuck-man
oddly attractive man with white hair and glasses on the rooftop beside her Forest's stronghold.
The raven-haired Faerie stepped beside him
about, and the strega was there to help the "hunter". Or rather, he was going to make sure that everything was settled before shifting responsibility onto Forest.
before looking at the odd yet beautiful white-haired man.
She sensed power there and something wild, animistic even.
These all refer to Henry?
Oh Brah . . .Quoteher sheath, now clean of impurities, rubbed against his length.
Now, lets read this againQuoteher sheath, now clean of impurities, rubbed against his length.Quoteher sheath,Quotenow clean of impurities,Quoterubbed against his length.
Hmm, does anyone have any idea on where I should send Rider and Kiyoshi (not necessarily both to the same place)? I'm looking to introduce them, but I'm not sure who it is best for me to interact with.If you don't mind squeezing into the back seat with Zouken, Law's got some room.
If you don't mind squeezing into the back seat with Zouken, Law's got some room.
I'm just kinda sitting around with at least one of my 2 characters, if you'd like to interact we can work something out.
Hmm, does anyone have any idea on where I should send Rider and Kiyoshi (not necessarily both to the same place)? I'm looking to introduce them, but I'm not sure who it is best for me to interact with.If you don't mind squeezing into the back seat with Zouken, Law's got some room.
Mike, if you want to you can put either or both of them in Minato's district. (Shamelessly trying to build faction lol.)
Rider's desire to not die
QuoteRider's desire to not die
Understandable, since Mordred is stronger that Shirou!Saber.
Even Sakura!Medusa has a pretty shit chance of beating Mordred, and if she uses Bellerophon we have a repeat of what happened in Fate, since Mordred has Clarent Blood Arthur.
Erm, Clarent is not Excalibur....
And, honestly, I think you're underestimating Rider. Still, it's largely irrelevant because I don't want to fight Mordred, and if I ever did need to then the "no killing without permission" thing comes into effect....
Excalibur isn't as much "overkill" as you're making out. And, remember, Rider has Shirou to assist her. Who, as you might recall, was able to use Rho Aius to allow her to defeat Dark Saber in HF.
Excalibur isn't as much "overkill" as you're making out. And, remember, Rider has Shirou to assist her. Who, as you might recall, was able to use Rho Aius to allow her to defeat Dark Saber in HF.
Shirou can't use that good a Rho Aias without the GARM, and even with that, the amount of Excalibeam it had to go through reduced it to like 1/10ths of it's strength (which wouldn't even kill Medea).
Where does this idea that you get anything other than one miracle and infinite prana on the job from a CG contract come from?
then the "no killing without permission" thing comes into effect....Don't you just assume that both characters have plot armor?
Where does this idea that getting a CG contract doesn't make Alaya beef you up to snuff so that you're actually useful come from?
Well, this Mordred is no weaker than Kairi!Mordred because even though Law is not a magus, as a Sin-Eater he is ridiculously efficient at maintaining her.
Show me something that says it does.
Because I have never seen anything to suggest that, and it sort of makes no sense.
Where does this idea that getting a CG contract doesn't make Alaya beef you up to snuff so that you're actually useful come from?
Show me something that says it does.
Because I have never seen anything to suggest that, and it sort of makes no sense.
IT WAS A JOKE SHEET!!!
Even if it got approved I would end up playing it for laughs.
Well, this Mordred is no weaker than Kairi!Mordred because even though Law is not a magus, as a Sin-Eater he is ridiculously efficient at maintaining her.
This. Basically Law is an excellent master due to being a Sin-Eater. It is both easier for Mordred to manifest around him and Plasm is a very effective power source for her. She could easily take on Rider with Law supporting her, and Sakura is not immune to bullets. She also can't come back from the dead.
Show me something that says it does.
Because I have never seen anything to suggest that, and it sort of makes no sense.
Show me something that says my argument is not the case.
I'm tired of digging through Complete Materials every time you or Mike are spouting fanon. If you can find me something that suggests EMIYA's strength is entirely his own, I'll believe you.
Brah, Wikipedia isn't helping me so please use your precious time of day to look up shit I could go find myself.
Brah, Wikipedia isn't helping me so please use your precious time of day to look up shit I could go find myself.
No.
Mike, common logic already suggests EMIYA needed a contract to achieve his power level. Otherwise, why he would contract in first place if he was enough strong to save people he wanted to save?
Magic Ability: None
Altrouge and Arcueid Brunestud, who have both inherited the Brunestud name, are considered to be those closest to reaching the point of being suitable vessels. Arcueid, created naturally by the True Ancestors, a method which Brunestud had given up on at the time, is considered a perfect body especially close in purity as she can summon the Millennium Castle through her Marble Phantasm ability.
Likes: His daughters
He is now reborn into a body that is accepted by both Gaia and Alaya; However, after learning that his understanding of humans was far out of date, he made the mistake of asking his "daughters" to help him. Their response was to introduce him to anime, manga, and video games. Five years later he found himself in the nexus, with his personality irrevocably altered by the experience.
Likes: Chuunibyou, New Anime, New Manga Chapters, Games, The Moon, Zelretch, Cute things, Friends.
Dislikes:Manga delays and filler, things that hurt his friends.
IT WAS A JOKE SHEET!!!
Even if it got approved I would end up playing it for laughs.
I would have put a LOT more effort into it if it was in any way serious.
Brah, Wikipedia isn't helping me so please use your precious time of day to look up shit I could go find myself.
No.
Sorry, Brah, but I do not know where the information you're talking about is, and I frankly do not even believe it exists. So, unless you are willing to prove your point, why should I believe you? You cannot make an assertion without evidence and expect people to just accept it.Mike, common logic already suggests EMIYA needed a contract to achieve his power level. Otherwise, why he would contract in first place if he was enough strong to save people he wanted to save?
The contract gave him infinite prana and, possibly, also the ability to use some of his skills he did not yet know. There's no indication it made him stronger in any other manner.
Sorry, Brah, but I do not know where the information you're talking about is, and I frankly do not even believe it exists. So, unless you are willing to prove your point, why should I believe you? You cannot make an assertion without evidence and expect people to just accept it.
The contract gave him infinite prana and, possibly, also the ability to use some of his skills he did not yet know. There's no indication it made him stronger in any other manner.
Sorry, Brah, but I do not know where the information you're talking about is, and I frankly do not even believe it exists. So, unless you are willing to prove your point, why should I believe you? You cannot make an assertion without evidence and expect people to just accept it.
Works for lantz literally every time, so I'm giving the same level of effort. I have better things to do than to talk to a wall.
Literally most people agree that EMIYA gained a boost from the contract.
Is it again this bullshit that a minority's view is as legit as majority's?
The contract gave him infinite prana and, possibly, also the ability to use some of his skills he did not yet know. There's no indication it made him stronger in any other manner.
It gave him power to save those people. Even though it's sort of ambiguous, because of the contract, EMIYA gets abilities that Emiya Shirou doesn't. Or rather power that he doesn't.
Like with Rin in UBW he can use his Reality Marble because she helps fuel it; however on his own it's implied that he couldn't use it because he doesn't have the juice to. Post HF Shirou is getting backup from Sakura, again, someone else who can give him the juice to power UBW.
However the Faustian pact gave Archer bonuses that Emiya Shirou would never reach with pure, simple power.
A majority once thought that the universe was created in 6 days 6000 years ago. Hell, most of the world probably still does believe in something similar. So, no, majority or minority isn't important, all that matters is evidence.
A majority once thought that the universe was created in 6 days 6000 years ago. Hell, most of the world probably still does believe in something similar. So, no, majority or minority isn't important, all that matters is evidence.
And that evidence can be found on Youtube, LParchive, the Complete Materials, and so on. So, yes. We are indeed correct. Go and look at it yourself if you don't believe us.
Whether not we want to respect your opinion doesn't mean shit when we're dealing with facts.
A majority once thought that the universe was created in 6 days 6000 years ago. Hell, most of the world probably still does believe in something similar. So, no, majority or minority isn't important, all that matters is evidence.
And that evidence can be found on Youtube, LParchive, the Complete Materials, and so on. So, yes. We are indeed correct. Go and look at it yourself if you don't believe us.
Youtube, LP archive, Complete Materials etc. are big things. I don't have time to go looking through the entirety of them in order to prove your point. Either actually provide the evidence or accept that I am entitled to my opinion.
Youtube, LP archive, Complete Materials etc. are big things. I don't have time to go looking through the entirety of them in order to prove your point. Either actually provide the evidence or accept that I am entitled to my opinion.
A majority once thought that the universe was created in 6 days 6000 years ago. Hell, most of the world probably still does believe in something similar. So, no, majority or minority isn't important, all that matters is evidence.
And that evidence can be found on Youtube, LParchive, the Complete Materials, and so on. So, yes. We are indeed correct. Go and look at it yourself if you don't believe us.
Youtube, LP archive, Complete Materials etc. are big things. I don't have time to go looking through the entirety of them in order to prove your point. Either actually provide the evidence or accept that I am entitled to my opinion.
http://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/ (http://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/)
https://www.youtube.com/user/XerBlade/playlists (https://www.youtube.com/user/XerBlade/playlists)
These will suffice for now. Yes, Mike, you are titled to your own opinion, however incorrect it may or may not be.
Weren't you the one preaching about facts being facts even if you can't prove them? How very hypocritical of you. Then again, that's my fault for expecting something from someone who believes robbery barely constitutes as a crime.
QuoteYoutube, LP archive, Complete Materials etc. are big things. I don't have time to go looking through the entirety of them in order to prove your point. Either actually provide the evidence or accept that I am entitled to my opinion.
You are so lazy. They already provided references. What kind of (alleged) academic you are that you don't feel like checking sources independently?
The entire point of making the contract with the world was to get the power he needed to pull off a miracle he could never achieve with his own abilities.
Quote from: Mcjon01The entire point of making the contract with the world was to get the power he needed to pull off a miracle he could never achieve with his own abilities.
I don't see what else you need as proof.
Plus just becoming a Heroic Spirit at all means having your soul sublimated into a higher existence like an elemental, which is pretty much better than human by default
...Mike, you did read what Elf said, didn't you? The whole reason he made the contract in the first place was to gain more power so he could try and fulfill his desire to become a Hero of Justice, and to pull that off more effectively.
Regardless of whether the power came from the miracle he was granted, from the CG contract, or both, the point is, he gained a power boost. A power boost implies that he's stronger than he was originally without it. Thereby, Archer/EMIYA is more powerful than peak Shirou.
Yes, he definitely did gain an increased prana supply, and it seems likely that Archer as a servant has better stats than peak Shirou (although, then, if his stats include constant use of reinforcement in a similar way to how Saber's stats include her using Prana Burst constantly, it's not necessarily impossible Shirou could reach that level).
Yes, he definitely did gain an increased prana supply, and it seems likely that Archer as a servant has better stats than peak Shirou (although, then, if his stats include constant use of reinforcement in a similar way to how Saber's stats include her using Prana Burst constantly, it's not necessarily impossible Shirou could reach that level).
It is impossible. EMIYA is the strongest Shirou ever.
Strongest Shirou doesn't mean "no other Shirou can reach that level", it means "Shirou cannot ever exceed that level". And, I never said it was likely....
I contend that this is actually reasonable.
lol no
I contend that this is actually reasonable.
lol no
Last I checked she wasn't very sneaky so she'd probably get found and attacked.
Saber has nothing that makes her good at detecting people (no, that's not what Instinct does). There's nothing impressive about it.
There's nothing impressive about it.
Plus, note that Shirou has a bounded field which she did not trigger....
Plus, note that Shirou has a bounded field which she did not trigger....
Which just about every named character has passed through without triggering it, including but not limited to Lancer, Kotomine, Gil, the Shadow, Hassan, Rin when she's hostile and Dark Sakura.
Like, it literally doesn't do anything.
Anyway, I asked Elf, not you. Stop answering the question for her.
Respect is something to be earned, Mike, not something to expect.
Elf is very busy person. She has a day job and other responsibilities, so we try to not encumber her.
Respect is something to be earned, Mike, not something to expect.
The same logic goes both ways, you know....
Respect is something to be earned, Mike, not something to expect.
1.) Treat Other Players With Respect. Golden Rule here. Treat others how they want to be treated. If you have a problem with another player, do not spout insults at them. Bring your qualm to them in a polite manner. If that does not work, please alert the GM.
Elf is very busy person. She has a day job and other responsibilities, so we try to not encumber her.
Hmm, Elf, what would happen if Rider were to try to sneak into Forest's compound to find a prana supply?
Hmm, Elf, what would happen if Rider were to try to sneak into Forest's compound to find a prana supply?
Right now?
Well, Wynn is there. If anyone magic sneaks in, she's going to know it pretty much instantly. After all she's one of the two spellcasters who warded the compound.
And she'll want to investigate.
Does Wynn's idea of "investigation" happen to include tentacle rape? :P
Does Wynn's idea of "investigation" happen to include tentacle rape? :P
Does Wynn's idea of "investigation" happen to include tentacle rape? :P
It depends if Rider pisses her off or not.
Sex isn't a source of prana though, sperm is.
Then don't fucking read it.
And if Rider outright asks for it...?
I'm admittedly not sure where it would go, but Rider would be doing it because she needs prana, and sex is a source of prana, so I could definitely see the discussion heading in that direction.
Hey Brah, sex can transfer prana. Tantric Rites and all of that.
Then how is Sakura supplying prana to Shirou...?
And if Rider outright asks for it...?
I'm admittedly not sure where it would go, but Rider would be doing it because she needs prana, and sex is a source of prana, so I could definitely see the discussion heading in that direction.
Well, then Rider might find herself in debt to a Faerie. Which can be sort of unpleasant. 8) It just depends on how Wynn collects.
However, Wynn's not going to turn down sex with a semi-divine being where she can dom the shit out of the other party.
Hey Brah, sex can transfer prana. Tantric Rites and all of that. Wynn would pick up pretty quickly how to open up a connection to Miss Medusa. (Which, Rider is going to be in for a treat because Faerie prana is damned powerful.)
Then how is Sakura supplying prana to Shirou...?
The same way Rin does.
Sakura should be able to form a contract since it's basics of basics for a magus. But without contract, only sperm carries prana.
Either it's because Rin is superior magi and Sakura a shit one in terms of actual ability, or they simply have sex because they are a couple.
Except that Rin gives Shirou prana by forming a contract with him, which only requires her to have sex once. Sakura is clearly shown to need to have sex with Shirou on a regular basis in order to dump prana into him.
So, no, it's not done the same way as Rin. Don't ask me why that is, or how it works, but Sakura definitely does not do the same thing Rin did.
Hey Mike, I know it sounds impossible, but do you know what perfectly functioning couples participate in? Sex. You know what you sex gives you besides prana? It feels good.
Nope, Brah, Kat. I distinctly remember that it is said that she needs to have sex to give Shirou prana. It is also stated that they're "doing it too much", which implies that is definitely not the only reason they have sex, but it is a requirement nevertheless.
I'm at work now, so I can't check, but when I get home I'll look through the HF True ending to find the part that supports my point. Your quote does not prove me wrong, it simply isn't proof that I'm right.
I distinctly remember
Nope, Brah, Kat. I distinctly remember that it is said that she needs to have sex to give Shirou prana. It is also stated that they're "doing it too much", which implies that is definitely not the only reason they have sex, but it is a requirement nevertheless.
I'm at work now, so I can't check, but when I get home I'll look through the HF True ending to find the part that supports my point. Your quote does not prove me wrong, it simply isn't proof that I'm right.
I'm literally quoting the novel, I couldn't give less of a shit about what you do and do not remember.
Also stop being unproductive at your workplace.
QuoteI distinctly remember
Inb4 FSN Rin and world peace
QuoteHey Mike, I know it sounds impossible, but do you know what perfectly functioning couples participate in? Sex. You know what you sex gives you besides prana? It feels good.
And perfectly functioning young couples often do it often.
Shirou's current body has a very weak Magic Circuit, so he would return to how he was before without her help."
There's literally nothing that says they aren't doing what Rin did, and even less that says that he needs poon frequently.
I have flexible work hours due to being self hired, but once I get a commission, farewell to Cross Effects, farewell to BL, goodnight sweet Crusader Kings 2, I'm doing my job swift and efficiently because my client trusts me (I got even positive recommendations from my former employer. I worked for shale oil industry lobbyists and they even let me write a letter to American ambassador) even if it means I have to write stuff for 24 hours straight (my record).
That was quick.If it happens that is.
And is going to be sloppy and awkward as fuck.
Law feeling shame from having been raped.
My bad "assisted consent."Law feeling shame from having been raped.
Raped?
Now you get the idea. Just. Give. Her. The. Dick.
Quote from: Redheaded DriverNow you get the idea. Just. Give. Her. The. Dick.
Best line so far in the RP.
Oh man, Law doesn't waste any time with kisses or anything, just goes straight to fingering.
Quote from: Redheaded DriverNow you get the idea. Just. Give. Her. The. Dick.
Best line so far in the RP.
Oh man, Law doesn't waste any time with kisses or anything, just goes straight to fingering.
Honestly, I was half considering him just J-J-J-JAMMING IT IN but Law, while a bit of a nasty drunk, isn't a total dick.
http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,425.msg18520.html#msg18520 (http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,425.msg18520.html#msg18520)
RIP greatest character, you lived as you died: a legend.
shut up raiden dont ruin my mourning
Blow or not to blow in edited version.I don't see an edit.
LYCO IS ALIVE. Deepest apologies to Daiki and Enkidu.
But at least here on DSM I notified before leaving for a 9-10 day vacation. >///>;
And oh wow, I have quite a bit to catch up on. ;w;
also: FIORE FIORE FIORE FIORE
and: DUNKELZAHN - FELLOW DRAGON
also: FIORE FIORE FIORE FIORE
I don't see an edit.
Dragon Kind-tier he can't be claimed to be, so Ramesses would scoff at him.Using Nasuverse ranking systems for a non-Nasuverse character is kind of silly. Lyco Aptera is indeed a dragon - and a spawn of Typhon and Echidna. He's just not at the same level of power as his siblings, besides perhaps Chimera and Orthrus: most of which were slain and/or defeated by Herakles or other heroes.
Using Nasuverse ranking systems for a non-Nasuverse character is kind of silly.
Vlads took over vamp territory and turned it into a fields of impaled vampires....Lyco Aptera won't like that. At all.
(http://i.imgur.com/zDUZ9x9.jpg)
Ressurected, now with 100 % American set.
Moedred has now been dicked. Hue.
"Come. The forests of our homeland will require careful seeding to prosper."
4. "Likes: Riding Pegasus with Aunt Rider", you do know the G-force of that thing will murder him, right?
4. "Likes: Riding Pegasus with Aunt Rider", you do know the G-force of that thing will murder him, right?
Rider can probably go slow so she doesn't kill the kid.
1. Shirou does not "excel" at reinforcement. He's actually pretty awful at it.
2. Sakura got her genetic code rewritten by Zouken, so her "natural" hereditary eye color would be purple.
3. Prana constructs don't develop free will.
4. "Likes: Riding Pegasus with Aunt Rider", you do know the G-force of that thing will murder him, right?
5. "Flow and Transfer" is not a hereditary Magical Attribute, it's a school of magecraft.
4. "Likes: Riding Pegasus with Aunt Rider", you do know the G-force of that thing will murder him, right?
Rider can probably go slow so she doesn't kill the kid.
The winds from it's wing buffets even while it's chill can destroy a small building and tear a normal human to shreds.
Welp, I'm just waiting for either Daiki to respond or to be told "no impaling has begun just yet, so cool down" by Elf or Nachos.huh what
No, he's not. It's the one thing he can actually do well.
Nope, genetics does not work that way. Zouken re-wrote Sakura magically, but you can't make someone a genetic Matou. Biology just does not work like that. Plus, even if it did, it wouldn't affect her eggs in the same way, since they are produced before she is even born.
Not if she flies more carefully.
The winds from it's wing buffets even while it's chill can destroy a small building and tear a normal human to shreds.
No, he's not. It's the one thing he can actually do well.
I implore you to actually read the VN.
Nope, genetics does not work that way. Zouken re-wrote Sakura magically, but you can't make someone a genetic Matou. Biology just does not work like that. Plus, even if it did, it wouldn't affect her eggs in the same way, since they are produced before she is even born.
I literally don't have to say anything other than "Magic" here. You can't rewrite peoples genetic code with science, but you sure can with magic.
Welp, I'm just waiting for either Daiki to respond or to be told "no impaling has begun just yet, so cool down" by Elf or Nachos.huh what
links to questionable post plox
I'd know what you mean but I'm like 15 pages behind
ALL THESE SIDE CONTRACTS, NO TIME FOR INTERNETS
I have.
Whilst Shirou is not initially very good at reinforcement, that is because of a lack of training. When he is able to learn to do things better, he becomes far more capable. Every other form of magic, Shirou sucks at, even as Archer, but reinforcement he has the potential to do well.
I have.
Whilst Shirou is not initially very good at reinforcement, that is because of a lack of training. When he is able to learn to do things better, he becomes far more capable. Every other form of magic, Shirou sucks at, even as Archer, but reinforcement he has the potential to do well.
iirc under magecraft for Archer's profile it says he was shitty at it even while he was alive. He got better once he became a CG.
Edit: didn't mean to doublepost.
First of all, Sakura's original eye color was blue/aquamarine, like Rin's. Not Green.
Second, you call Kiyoshi an "average magus", but he clearly is not.
Not only does he have two elemental affinities, one of which is very rare, you describe him as having the potential to excel at Reinforcement, and he can already self-reinforce at his age. I'm not sure you realize how much of a big deal self-reinforcement actually is, but it's the peak of basic magecraft. Rin can do it because she is a goddamn genius!
Also, allow me to clear one further thing up. Shirou does not "excel at Reinforcement". The only thing he is good at is Projection, and that is because of UBW and his circuits being tailored specifically for it. He is also good at Alteration and Reinforcement on weapons because of his affinity.
Sure, he might be able to do Reinforcement somewhat well, but he by no means EXCELS at it compared to someone like Rin. Or he's not supposed to, anyways. EMIYA is a different case. It's possible Shirou is able to self-reinforce efficiently and quite well if he does something like think of himself as a sword or do it subconsciously (this in particular actually seems to happen in FSN a few times, but it's again in relation to the first point, or so I speculate).
But he does not excel at Reinforcement in normal terms.
Sakura's genetic code was altered by Zolken.
It is a possible thing, in fact the human genome is constantly changed by retroviruses. New squences are added all the time, infact a rather large chunk of the human genome are endogonus retroviruses.
With magecraft it is not at all implausible that the genetic code that would be passed was changed to the extent that it did. In fact it would be highly likely that Zolken do so in order to make her children more accepting of matou magecraft.
That makes no sense, though. He is still shit at other forms of magic, even as a CG. Why would Reinforcement be an exception?
And, I don't remember seeing that at all....
Any magus can self-reinforce. Doing it safely is the difficult bit. It's not a matter of number of circuits or similar, it's just a matter of training.
And, I think most magi are capable of self-reinforcement to a reasonable extent at least. I don't think Rin is quite that exceptional.
I thought shirou's reinforcing worked by basically making a few swords pop up in his body and he made those strong as he could. That's why rider kicking him in the gut (or was it being kicked down a building) caused him basically to accidentally impale himself. His reinforcement is kind of a weird extension of his projection if you look at it that way as he's just projection some strong swords under his skin.
Any magus can self-reinforce. Doing it safely is the difficult bit. It's not a matter of number of circuits or similar, it's just a matter of training.
And, I think most magi are capable of self-reinforcement to a reasonable extent at least. I don't think Rin is quite that exceptional.
Minus the part where Rin can become a potential top 100 in all of the Association's history if you give her a few decades (though that is admittedly primarily due to Zelretch shenanigans)
Rin is specifically a super-rare genius. She can do it because she's a super-rare genius. Shirou can't do it because he's not a super-rare genius.
I thought shirou's reinforcing worked by basically making a few swords pop up in his body and he made those strong as he could. That's why rider kicking him in the gut (or was it being kicked down a building) caused him basically to accidentally impale himself. His reinforcement is kind of a weird extension of his projection if you look at it that way as he's just projection some strong swords under his skin.
Fanon.
Thaumaturgy: C-
During his life time, the sorceries learned by Emiya are unremarkable. Before becoming a Heroic Spirit, even “reinforcement” was quite difficult. However, the “projection” sorcery he wields is quite special, as it is able to duplicate weapons, including all the components, to near perfection. In addition, during duplication, he can even read the wielder’s skills, which allows him to gain all kinds of Noble Phantasms and combat skills.
During his life time, Emiya used the preliminary step of projection – “structural analysis”, to find the location of an item’s fault and proceed with repair.
Even Reinforcement was difficult for him while he was alive. It was not something he excelled in.
Thaumaturgy: C-
During his life time, the sorceries learned by Emiya are unremarkable. Before becoming a Heroic Spirit, even “reinforcement” was quite difficult. However, the “projection” sorcery he wields is quite special, as it is able to duplicate weapons, including all the components, to near perfection. In addition, during duplication, he can even read the wielder’s skills, which allows him to gain all kinds of Noble Phantasms and combat skills.
During his life time, Emiya used the preliminary step of projection – “structural analysis”, to find the location of an item’s fault and proceed with repair.
Even Reinforcement was difficult for him while he was alive. It was not something he excelled in.
40 Circuits isn't even that special. Self-reinforcement has nothing to do with Circuit count, yes, because it's reliant on the user being an unparalleled genius.
"anyone can self-reinforce, even if it kills them" is a stupid and contradicting statement, because being able to self-reinforce implies that you can actually successfully do it.
You can change it a little, but you can't change it to that extent in a living person and have them still be a living person. It makes no sense. There is also no evidence that he actually did that, or that he would have altered her eggs even if he did (eggs do not have a normal genetic code).
Unless you can find actual evidence to support your blind assertions, please stop making them.
He's average in general. He lacks much in the way of circuits, he's just very good at reinforcement.
Any magus can self-reinforce. Doing it safely is the difficult bit. It's not a matter of number of circuits or similar, it's just a matter of training.
And, I think most magi are capable of self-reinforcement to a reasonable extent at least. I don't think Rin is quite that exceptional.
He may not excel at it, but he is certainly quite good at it, especially relative to other skills.
You can repeat that as many times as you like, it doesn't change the fact that Shirou does use self-reinforcement.
1) Eggs DO have a normal genetic code, actually they only have half a genetic code. It is quite normal outside of that really. So please, stop talking like you understand things.
2) Changing of genetic code can be done, it is difficult but can be done. The main difficulty is targeting the exact location you want to insert 3 new sets of base pairs. It is a high risk thing to do in large numbers because an change to an unwanted area can turn of or turn on the transcription of genes. It is not something that can be safely done by modern medicine in large numbers, but designer babies is a worry for a reason, we are approaching that point.
3) Zolken is a magus, a rather good one at that. Magecraft is capable of doing things that science is theoretically capable of doing but most of the time more safely and with more ease. Also it is very, very likely that he altered everything with magecraft, mainly considering her original point of her existence was to make an heir and then become Zolken's new host, why the fuck would he want to stunt her kid's magecraft by forcing an element change, better to have it passed on genetically.
4) said in the VN somewhere that her code was changed, so please stop.
Lacking much in the way of circuits does not discount effective ability due to skill. And Circuit Count, while important for being an "above average magus", is not all, you realize, if a big part of it. Kiyoshi's skill and talents already mark him as quite amazing.
I never said most magi weren't capable of self-reinforcement, but it's still a very dangerous skill, also also one that represents the pinnacle of basic magecraft. The fact that Rin can self-reinforce like she does is remarkable. If Kiyoshi can do it at the age of 11, I'm sorry, but he is a genius at it. You need to be extremely skilled to self-reinforce properly.
Do you mean magus in the "follows magus mindset" sense or in the purely "talent and ability at magecraft" sense? Because he absolutely is not average if you take into account the former, what he can currently do nonwithstanding.
And why would you even say he is capable of self-reinforcement if he can't do it properly? Being capable at something implies not doing it wrong, which in this case implies not hurting yourself doing it.
"Why do you ask that now?
Matou Sakura's body was tampered with many years ago. The changes were so extensive that even her hair and eye colors no longer reflect her heritage. This did not start recently."
"Well, it seems it was never intended to kill her as it's doing now.
It seems Matou Zouken did not intend to use Matou Sakura in this war. She is not adjusted to fighting. I would assume she was treated that way because unexpected conditions were met."
Well, he doesn't have a magus mindset at all. In terms of his talent and ability, he is generally not good, he is just good at certain aspects.
Well, he can self-reinforce, there's just a high chance of him hurting himself in the process, especially if he does it too much. Basically, he's learning.
Quote from: Day 9 Save Rin / Sisters (I)"Why do you ask that now?
Matou Sakura's body was tampered with many years ago. The changes were so extensive that even her hair and eye colors no longer reflect her heritage. This did not start recently."
"Well, it seems it was never intended to kill her as it's doing now.
It seems Matou Zouken did not intend to use Matou Sakura in this war. She is not adjusted to fighting. I would assume she was treated that way because unexpected conditions were met."
Considering Zolken wanted her as a future vessel and to produce a suitable heir for the Matou to fight in the next war it is incredibly likely that the alterations to her body where genetic and not simply cosmetic, in order to insure the whole reason she was adopted and produce a heir of great potential.
Also, still don't get why her son can use her Element, Element's are generally unique to the person, and while families can be more likely to have specific one like the Aozaki's know for having wind element special elements, like being an average one or unique traits such as multiple elements are not passed on.
And if you say it is a crest then do know that implies Sakura converted her own circuits into a crest and passed them on, a very dangerous process even for blood related children.
You mentioned he has some capability with projection I understand his dad had the tailor made circuits for that so I can let that slide (but on the other hand I believe Nasuverse magical capabilities are kind of randomized as I don't exactly see Rin and Sakura being to similar to Tokiomi beyond the direct crest inherited stuff) so he may have some better affinity that most magi I do have to wonder one thing.
Shirou's projection is only useful because he has the data perfectly stored in his soul so he can make detailed copies. Other people even if they are good at the reproduction process of projection don't exactly have the blueprints detailed enough to make anything of quality. Everything projected would honestly be up to the quality of what Shirou makes in his shed. Interesting as a magical concept with how long they last but all functionally useless in their original task beyond superficial appearance. So Mike what's the point of the projection skill?
Projection is actually a common skill for mages so the basic kind can go without saying I believe but the specialness of Shirou's type is exclusive to his soul and circuits.
And what I've been trying to say is, by Nasuverse standards, even if he has an average circuit count, he is already remarkable for his skill at reinforcement and some of his natural ability as a user of magecraft. Namely, his two elements.
His projection is only the standard magical form, which is most likely useless. What he is best at is creating ether clumps and manipulating those.
Ether lump [Others]
Ether, the Fifth Imaginary Substance as coined by the Association. It is a necessary medium that gives shape by mixing with the Four Elements.
It is shapeless, but it is a critical element in the functioning of magecraft.
Ether is bound to become one of Earth, Water, Fire and Wind, but in the hands of a novice, it would fail to become one of the Four Elements and materialize. This is ether lump.
Ether lump is completely useless. In some sense, creating ether lump is analogous to creating "Nothingness". Looking at it from this perspective makes it sound like "True Magic" In fact, ether lump is originally the First Magic's ----------
And what I've been trying to say is, by Nasuverse standards, even if he has an average circuit count, he is already remarkable for his skill at reinforcement and some of his natural ability as a user of magecraft. Namely, his two elements.
Would be more acceptable if he was like in his 20s, but he is fucking 11. God, that is insane.
And what I've been trying to say is, by Nasuverse standards, even if he has an average circuit count, he is already remarkable for his skill at reinforcement and some of his natural ability as a user of magecraft. Namely, his two elements.
Would be more acceptable if he was like in his 20s, but he is fucking 11. God, that is insane.QuoteQuoteEther lump [Others]
Ether, the Fifth Imaginary Substance as coined by the Association. It is a necessary medium that gives shape by mixing with the Four Elements.
It is shapeless, but it is a critical element in the functioning of magecraft.
Ether is bound to become one of Earth, Water, Fire and Wind, but in the hands of a novice, it would fail to become one of the Four Elements and materialize. This is ether lump.
Ether lump is completely useless. In some sense, creating ether lump is analogous to creating "Nothingness". Looking at it from this perspective makes it sound like "True Magic" In fact, ether lump is originally the First Magic's ----------
Ether lumps, or clumps, are useless for magi. There is something about them being linked to the 1st but for the love of god if you say anything about that you deserve to be smacked.
Normally they are useless, yes, but Kiyoshi is not normal. He's mostly useless at magic, but has an ability to manipulate them.
He's not anything like as strong as you're making out. He's just strong enough to be capable of not instantly dying to a stiff breeze....
He's not anything like as strong as you're making out. He's just strong enough to be capable of not instantly dying to a stiff breeze....
He is 11, why wouldn't he die to EVERYTHING in the city already.
Isn't that the whole reason Rider is even with him, to protect him, so he doesn't die?
To try and clean up the matter in general.
Zouken only stated he made her body more suitable for the Matou magecraft more or less. In the process, he had to altered her to the point it drastically changed her appearance, and forcefully gave her the Matou element and sorcery trait. Presumably he had to alter her soul and/or circuits to manage this, which would have consequences on her physical characteristics (especially considering the "body reflects the soul" concept). The crux of the matter here is that it obviously had an effect on her mundane characteristics and not just the supernatural ones, following the previous logic. This does not necessarily mean her genetics were entirely altered, at least not directly.
Well, my conclusion is: maybe she doesn't have "Matou genetics" in the strict sense of the word, and her children would inherit her original "Tohsaka genetics", but Sakura herself might as well be a Matou and not a Tohsaka in any way.
For example, he could probably defeat a normal vampire mook, but he wouldn't stand a chance against someone like Forest.
How can he? Most vampires have above human capability along with other traits.
If you want to give him someone he can beat say he can beat just about any normal human as most, he can still be picked up and thrown into a wall and go splat by something powerful enough.
Because he has magical swords, that's why. And, I don't think the average vampire mooks are particularly powerful, a decent magus can kill whole groups of them without too much difficulty.
Hey Elf, the character limit is 8 and not 9 like it was in CE 1.0 right?
Because he has magical swords, that's why. And, I don't think the average vampire mooks are particularly powerful, a decent magus can kill whole groups of them without too much difficulty.
This probably depends on the vampire's origin. Say a vampire from Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Not too terribly bad.
One of Deacon Frost's flunkies- not too much there either. However their regeneration and speed are something to behold.
Now a vampire like Ash and Forest, even without their age, is still someone that would eat Kiyoshi for lunch. He's just an eleven year old boy with no mental defenses. He'd get hypnotized then bit.
Erufu-sama, how close we are to the end of the first night?
We're finally going to get past Night 1 in Cross Effects.
*single tear* Ladies. Gentlemen. I am moved. In a good way.
Hmm, Rider and Kiyoshi have quite a bit to do yet. Once they actually find somewhere to stay, Rider will want to go out looking for prana whilst Kiyoshi is asleep. I'm not sure how best to make that fit in (since I'd like Rider to head to the compound).
Well, as I said, I was intending to send Rider out overnight. She's not going to go looking for prana whilst Kiyoshi is awake. So, I'd rather it if everyone didn't just start time-skipping past the night just yet (Wynn in particular).
Well, as I said, I was intending to send Rider out overnight. She's not going to go looking for prana whilst Kiyoshi is awake. So, I'd rather it if everyone didn't just start time-skipping past the night just yet (Wynn in particular).
Yeah, a lot of us would prefer you try heading to the compound on Night 2 instead because we're almost done and we don't really want to wait for too long. Not like the compound's moving anywhere, right?
I mean, Rider can still find some prana elsewhere couldn't she?
"Night 2" will be about 6 months in the future....no
"Night 2" will be about 6 months in the future....no
"Night 2" will be about 6 months in the future....no
Yeah, we're almost there. Just a few more posts on a few scenes around and we should be good to go. I'm pretty sure the scenes over in the Compound are wrapped up now. We're just waiting for others to get theirs done.
"Night 2" will be about 6 months in the future....no
Yeah, we're almost there. Just a few more posts on a few scenes around and we should be good to go. I'm pretty sure the scenes over in the Compound are wrapped up now. We're just waiting for others to get theirs done.
Night 2 doesn't come immediately after night 1, you know. There is a day in between....
The problem is that Rider should really go out looking close to when the time skip would happen, since she would do it later in the night when Kiyoshi is asleep. Which is likely to be quite a while.
I'm also confused as hell about the timing here. I wasn't expecting Kiyoshi and Rider to be arriving late night (because Kioyshi would be in bed), so I don't think it's meant to be as late for them. People just seem to be really rushing through.
The problem is that Rider should really go out looking close to when the time skip would happen, since she would do it later in the night when Kiyoshi is asleep. Which is likely to be quite a while.
I'm also confused as hell about the timing here. I wasn't expecting Kiyoshi and Rider to be arriving late night (because Kioyshi would be in bed), so I don't think it's meant to be as late for them. People just seem to be really rushing through.
Nah, you just chose the wrong time to post them in.
And besides, you can just imply Rider just found some random dude/girl and got prana off of him/her. Or something.
The RP only started a month ago, and any time I'd come in I'd likely have been stuck in this situation given the speed Mil and Kuro are posting at.
No, because that misses the whole damn point of why I want to go and do it....
I'm also confused as hell about the timing here. I wasn't expecting Kiyoshi and Rider to be arriving late night (because Kioyshi would be in bed), so I don't think it's meant to be as late for them. People just seem to be really rushing through.
Quote from: Cherry LoverThe RP only started a month ago, and any time I'd come in I'd likely have been stuck in this situation given the speed Mil and Kuro are posting at.
You could've asked someone more active to RP with you.
Quote from: Cherry LoverNo, because that misses the whole damn point of why I want to go and do it....
And that is...?
Well, getting Wynn to fuck Rider....
Honestly, "Day 1" is pretty much going to be glossed over. Henry's at the clinic, Hakuno and Tom are settling in at the compound, Dan's going to go pass out soon . . .
Night 1 will end in a few post, sort of speed through day 1 and then be on Night 2.
Honestly, what I'd recommend as both another player and GM, to state that Rider and Kiyoshi got there at the beginning of Night 2. She hasn't interacted with anyone yet so it would be perfect for her to run into Wynn.
What happened to Daiki, did he quit or did something happen?Not sure, but I doubt he quit - my guess is that he's busy with other things or waiting.
me and umbra have just had a timeskip to da morning and through an infodump, no one start freaking out
What happened to Daiki, did he quit or did something happen?
Exams. Still not done yet.No worries - thank you for taking the time to update. Do well on your exams!
Took a moment to update.
Working on my post now, will try to have it up today.
Mordred should be sore from that pounding she took.
Also, I'm considering upping the cap to 10.
Not to be impolite newpersonwhodroppedbytopostasheet, but do you mind introducing yourself first?Bdoom from beasts lair.
5. Anyone who uses Joan of Arc and not Jeanne D'arc deserves to be hanged.
Like I said, should carry the death penalty.#too lazy to change
Whenever you use something other than Jeanne D'arc, especially English version, she is rolling in the grave.
She was a huge French patriot who showed Englishmen where is their place.
Kurogami, if you don't post soon, I think I'm going to have to just go ahead and reply to Mil's post. I've been waiting nearly a week already.Well there is that 24 hour rule so you were totally free to do this a while ago. but I understand the hesitance in a desire not to step on anyone's toes.
Kurogami, if you don't post soon, I think I'm going to have to just go ahead and reply to Mil's post. I've been waiting nearly a week already.Well there is that 24 hour rule so you were totally free to do this a while ago. but I understand the hesitance in a desire not to step on anyone's toes.
Some people skipped ahead, it is not the next day yet (not everywhere at least).
Time dilation is a common occurrence in the nexus, some people go grocery shopping and meet themselves for coffee on the way there/home. :P
I'm kind-of assuming our group is in the earlier part of night 2 already, because Kiyoshi and Rider wouldn't arrive late in the night (Kioyshi is only 11), and because I want to send Rider to meet up with Wynn as soon as Kiyoshi goes to bed (which now has to be on night 2).
I'm kind-of assuming our group is in the earlier part of night 2 already, because Kiyoshi and Rider wouldn't arrive late in the night (Kioyshi is only 11), and because I want to send Rider to meet up with Wynn as soon as Kiyoshi goes to bed (which now has to be on night 2).
Nope, Minato is still on night 1. I do not see how what time it was in your world when you left would have anything to do with the time in the nexus when you arrive. Time is not synchronized between worlds is it? I was under the assumption that it was possible to vanish from your world at midday and find yourself in the nexus at midnight seconds later.
Yeah skipping to Night 2 already is a bit of stretch.
Well we could just say that it's almost morning to narrow the gap, and if I can actually get a pace going my posts will start coming much faster.
My plan was for Minato to offer rooms to everyone during inevitable conversation time, get his pay from The Absurdly powerful old man with an enormous mustache, then probably go to bed.
Then once the day comes I focus on Mako, because Minato doesn't do much during the day.
Rider has independent action Mike, she could last for a day without a prana source you know.
What I am saying is that she can last though day 2 without worrying.
She does not need to arrive in night 2. Especially since you chose to interact with people still experiencing the first night.
So.
Everyone, I'd like you to go check out the updated rules. Especially the bit on the character cap.
Also character page has been updated.
Looks like Forest is getting a heads up from Henry. :3
Edit: Yolf, just wondering. Are there rumors about Fate? And exactly what kind? Also what kind of jobs did AEGIS do so far?
As the dust settled, Irisviel finally was able to discern her new Servant's form. She was a woman, wearing gleaming plate armor, her long braided hair falling to her knees.You phone posting or something?
"What is going on? Why are you here?"
"..."
"What do you mean, did you not summon me, Master? Am I not your Servant?"
"No, you are most definetly my servant. That much is certain. See, I have the command seals to prove it." Irisviel said, raising her hand to show them off. "However, I most definetly did not initiate the summoning. You just kind of appeared. There is no dought that you are my master, I'm definetly getting prana from you, and as you say, those are command seals. While what you said about not summoning me is worrisome, there's nothing we can do about that now, so let's start with getting out of this dirty room."
Irisviel smiled, and said, "Before that, why don't we introduce ourselves to each other?
My name is Irisviel von Einzbern, what's yours?" Irisviel extended her hand.
"My name is Jeanne d'Arc, it's a pleasure to meet you Irisviel." Jeanne responded, taking Irisviel's hand and shaking it.
So your immortals heal at a normal rate right Ivan
so like Neo, who just heartstabbbed himself... shouldn't he be having problems related pain and breathing and bleeding all over his clothes and pain and shit?
Cuz I dunno Immortal or not that heart wound sure isn't making him any less long-winded and that's a little whack
Nah, it's more like he'll still have trouble breathing because he can't circulate oxygen properly with a knife in his heart. And also CO2 build up. He'd still start having trouble breathing even without direct damage to his lungs.
What people are trying to tell you Ivan is that if you want Neo to have a normal human's regeneration, he should suffer the same consequences as a human in his situation, minus the dying part.
...Also, Neo's going to regret the whole withstanding damage thing. Because Mille's pretty much going to accept his little challenge. :V Since she's going full on reinforcement, I expect his equipment to not be working for a good few months.
That, and he's probably going to have the crap beaten out of him if he tries. Mille may not be an expert in combat, but she's no slouch, plus the fact that she can set him on fire by just drawing a rune in his general vicinity's probably not all that good for him. :P Plus I imagine she'd have friends with her, so she wouldn't exactly be alone either. So pretty much he still qualifies for that Darwin Award despite not being able to die. :V
Also Jenn I swear to god if you dont give Archer and Hakuno a single bed ill kill you
Well, I'd imagine that Archer would just avoid sleeping in that case. He's a servant, after all, he doesn't need to sleep.
Cherry, but people want to see the Hakuno x Archer (CCC Version) hook up though!
Wait, Magos as Shakespeare? This is going to be glorious.
And Neo went flying.
He can land wherever ya want Ivan, so he can even land back at his manor so he gets healing stuff in him. So it should be fine right?
7.) Give other players time to respond. Now sometimes two players will go on a tangent with themselves. It's expected and can be fun, and if their interaction is separate from most everyone its fine. Plus it would be expected in a love scene between two characters. Now if there is an event and other people are trying to catch up slow down. Like if a group of players are fighting something, and one of them has trouble catching up, give them time to respond.
However if a character does not reply within a 24 hour period during a time of “heavy action”, I apologize, but we will be forced to move without them. Don't worry, we won't kill your character and we'll say they did something neat during the conflict so they're not a mook.
Quote7.) Give other players time to respond. Now sometimes two players will go on a tangent with themselves. It's expected and can be fun, and if their interaction is separate from most everyone its fine. Plus it would be expected in a love scene between two characters. Now if there is an event and other people are trying to catch up slow down. Like if a group of players are fighting something, and one of them has trouble catching up, give them time to respond.
However if a character does not reply within a 24 hour period during a time of “heavy action”, I apologize, but we will be forced to move without them. Don't worry, we won't kill your character and we'll say they did something neat during the conflict so they're not a mook.
Literally nothing stopping you.
Or Rider could just pick Kiyoshi up and book it.
Seriously, we cannot skip a day over one player's character. We cannot conform to you Mike at expense of other players.
Honestly I would have had my reply up sooner but I have most of my schoolwork due on the weekends so I can't post then.
That said I will have my post up in an hour or so.
you are quite obviously fucking based.
Posted, I will be able to make multiple posts a day today and tomorrow.
It's Fiore's group, yeah. Rin, Mille, Tokiomi, Amy, Lancer are there too. I think that's pretty much it.Thanks, Daiki, that helped!
so despite having his own feelings blossoming, combine that with his overwillingness to protect ze moe, he's just straight up not getting it.
Probabobly not actually that weird for the nexus. I meen Jubei owns a restaurant.Hm, true. I'll have to see what Daiki wants to do, though.
I mean, Enkidu and Lyco Aptera certainly could go to the hotel and talk to that group...but at the same time there's the whole "DRAGON IN THE HOTEL LOBBY SOMEONE CALL AEGIS OR THE COPS OR SOMETHING". >.>
News at 11. City is controlled by a company led by a demigod, one 9th of the city is covered in impaled people and a giant sun spirit is burning down places at random. Whats a dragon in comparison.In character, Lyco Aptera doesn't know that and he already had people freak out and run away from him, so...yeah.
^Do you have a particular plan in mind?Daiki and I haven't really talked about what the plan would be, but I'd say:
1. Avoid being murdered by Ramesses II or Moedred.
1. Avoid being murdered by Ramesses II or Moedred.
I wouldn't worry about that.But Worrying is my highest stat! If Worrier was a Class/Job that would be me!
I knew this was a bad idea. Ah well, who wants to live forever?
Though I suppose this turns Enkidu and Lyco Aptera into [temporary] allies of Law and Moedred, while making enemies of Ramesses II, Sakura, and Zolgen Makiri.
Zolgen is not actually involved in this and Sakura thinks Ramesses is an idiot, he should have stopped fighting as soon as another party showed up, to many variables for her liking.It's nice to know that someone is reasonable about these things; Daiki and I have agreed that we should wait for Law and Moedred and Sakura to respond.
It's nice to know that someone is reasonable about these things
Just to give everyone a heads up, I'm going to be at a con this weekend so yall be good.
Lyco as a note, this is not happening at the park. It is happening a fair bit north.Gotcha.
Also, PHOENIX ENTERS THE FRAY!
Well, I have a feeling Ramesses will dislike Phoenix trying to stop him.
Kinda hoping for Enkidu riding Phoenix arial dogfight with Ramesses riding sphinx.
In Nasuverse terms, iirc, unless Ramesses II has some sort of gift from Thoth or another Egyptian/Persian god or goddess of wisdom or defense, he can't touch Lycodrake Aptera personally.
If bloodlust starts radiating in his lobby, expect Fate out of flippin' nowhere.
Or Mary could call him, if her offer/request for morning coffee goes sour.
Basically, If you can name a mythological creature that isn't mostly human, presume Ramesses has it.wait, how old is Ramesses?
wait, how old is Ramesses?
Because Gil had all the NPs ever because he was the oldest hero and had all the shit, so like, Ramesses should only have mythological beasties from his time and after
by which I'm saying he probly doesn't have Humbaba or the bull of heaven, at least
they're before his time
Hmm, Kuro, we're waiting on you for a post so we can get back to your dorm.
Aren't EMIYA and Nameless Hero the exact same build, it's just that Wada draws him a lot less bulky for some reason? (EMIYA has pretty much the same portrait as Nameless Hero in his normal armor, and the art Takeuchi drew of him for both the special edition box and Glasses Pic both seem to have him about at the same build as EMIYA).
She has no such magic skill though.
I don't have any problem with the base itself having it it's when she has it, I don't really see why she does. There's no real basis for her being able to do so.
I don't have any problem with the base itself having it it's when she has it, I don't really see why she does. There's no real basis for her being able to do so.
Apparently she has that shit in Apoc, so if you wanna bug someone, go bug the original writer and nasu who told him "mmwokay"
That being said
Everyone who put down "being capable at magecraft" or some shit on their sheets and didn't specify what they could do with their magecraft needs to specify what they can do with their magecraft, because otherwise it's an incomplete sheet.
I don't give a damn HOW they make it happen, just write down what they make happen.
In this particular instance I mean you Brahmastrah, with semiramis. But everyone else too, check your sheets. I swer on me mum m80s i see another mage without proper descriptions for his muhgic and i will shrek u
Gonna have to defuse your headcanon Jenn. Nameless Hero and EMIYA weight and measures the exact same height and weight.
Just because she is older does not mean she has it you know.
This was a beam by the fortress not from Semiramis herself correct? That is a very different thing you know.
Call it what you will I won't just sit idly back anymore when I see something that really shouldn't be on a sheet, especially if the Aprocrypha version is what he is trying to go for.
Call it what you will I won't just sit idly back anymore when I see something that really shouldn't be on a sheet, especially if the Aprocrypha version is what he is trying to go for.
QuoteCall it what you will I won't just sit idly back anymore when I see something that really shouldn't be on a sheet, especially if the Aprocrypha version is what he is trying to go for.
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Like I said, one thing at a time.
Fair enough, I'm not the GM so I cannot actually do anything about it, however that won't stop me from voicing my complaints and I really don't want to end up in another Karna vs Gil debacle that really shot down my motivation for this particular RP, and I'm still struggling to find a new foothold in some way.
This was a beam by the fortress not from Semiramis herself correct? That is a very different thing you know.
No I don't think I will and you want to know why? Because if she really does have HSDW that are stronger or in equal rank to Medea I would have received multiple messages about it and I'm not going to let that slip by.
Also if they were equal or better then all of the Yggdmillenia's stuff then how come they didn't just swarm them all on the first day and win instantly?
I will quit complaining just as soon as you quite trying to overpower Apocrypha Servants.
Because if she really does have HSDW that are stronger or in equal rank to Medea I would have received multiple messages about it and I'm not going to let that slip by.I find this silly because you seem to imply you have like people feeding you intel about things relating to your waifu
I will quit complaining just as soon as you quite trying to overpower Apocrypha Servants.you know he really doesn't have to TRY to overpower apocrypha servants
I mostly added a lot of stuff to Karna because A. I gave him abilities closer to those from the actual epic than the ones Nasu came up with and B. His arsenal as a proper Deva not restricted by a class system shouldn't lock things like his now or chariot out.And there is nothing wrong with this, chris.
It's one and the same. She's directing every beam from the fortress herself. There's no difference.
Semi can also make functional mirror images of herself with the same magical output and insta-cast Greater Rituals while on the Fortress.
I mean, for fucks sake, are you expecting an EX-ranked Anti World NP to not be ridiculously overpowered?
Chris this is no EX rank magecraft, mirror images are not that high level and "directing" the beams of her NP is in no way the same as making them herself.
>mfw Milbunk wouldn't take the hint to stfu earlier on his waifufagging.
Can we all shut our mouths about this? Nachos is alright with this and apparently Elf is when she let this pass. So let's drop this fucking thing. Jesus Christ Milbunk, you're just as worse as Lantz with his Gilgadouche bashing.
You know, you guys bitched a hell of a lot about Satoshi's powers (I don't mean other stuff that Lantz did, that is a separate issue entirely), but you're fine with far more OP characters just because they're made by someone else....
>mfw Milbunk wouldn't take the hint to stfu earlier on his waifufagging.
Can we all shut our mouths about this? Nachos is alright with this and apparently Elf is when she let this pass. So let's drop this fucking thing. Jesus Christ Milbunk, you're just as worse as Lantz with his Gilgadouche bashing.
You know, you guys bitched a hell of a lot about Satoshi's powers (I don't mean other stuff that Lantz did, that is a separate issue entirely), but you're fine with far more OP characters just because they're made by someone else....
Here you go Lyco:
Were there any characters you were forced to omit for plot reasons?
Takeuchi: I wondered if I'd be able to get Argon Coin (refer to p. 217) in somehow, but in the end I wasn't. We wanted to get everything we could find for the content for 『side material』, and by the end of it we were scraping for it.
Nasu: Thinking about Argon Coin now, he/she was in 『stay night』's 『side material』, but Gil was put in his/her place. After that, we lost track of things with Argon Coin.
Here you go Lyco:
Were there any characters you were forced to omit for plot reasons?
Takeuchi: I wondered if I'd be able to get Argon Coin (refer to p. 217) in somehow, but in the end I wasn't. We wanted to get everything we could find for the content for 『side material』, and by the end of it we were scraping for it.
Nasu: Thinking about Argon Coin now, he/she was in 『stay night』's 『side material』, but Gil was put in his/her place. After that, we lost track of things with Argon Coin.
>SphinxOkay, temporarily indisposed? You haven't had it do anything since it got hit by Clarent, iirc, so unless I missed something, Lyco Aptera is in the clear. For now.
>Defeated
check yourself before you shrek yourself.
There's no point in trying to get through to you you'll just ignore whatever I say so I'm simply not going to do so.
There's no point in trying to get through to you you'll just ignore whatever I say so I'm simply not going to do so.
It wasn't just the vagueness it was also the Ex ranked level that it had.
It wasn't just the vagueness it was also the Ex ranked level that it had.
At least it's not Prisma.
HEY-OHHHHHHHH
ranks don't even seriously matter anyway, unless you're fighting same-world magic resistance feggets, which we have like, almost none of
even then she pierces Asstolfo's A rank and his griffin's higher rank with her shit so even that reason is unimportant
so basically
molehill, thou art my mountain?
and also
shut up about it, I already told chris to clarify, and that's all that's really important at this point
I said the Devil. Not Satan.That is true, apologies. Devil is generally "source of evil" and not limited to Satan/Lucifer/Iblis.
At least it's not Prisma.Oh dear god the power wanking in that thing. Honestly though, I wouldn't mind it so much on the grounds of it being a magical girl show if it weren't for all the creepy pedo stuff. *shudders*
HEY-OHHHHHHHH
Invasion of Minds: Capable of entering the minds of others and leaving a copy of himself that melds with them. This copy gains a complete understanding of the one who it is within. Using this it begins to slowly chip away at their insecurities making them doubt, making them fear, slowly and surly it will eat away at them all the while pushing them towards evil actions. This is not something from the ‘outside’ but rather it is a part of the person making them doubt themselves due to how it merges with them. He generally targets recent events to gain a foothold and dig in from there. The copy will also make it whenever the person sleeps they suffer intense, unescapable, nightmares which ware at the person’s psyche. This invasion cannot be detected and cannot be removed. A person with it will forever have to deal with the whispers of it, now as simply a part of them, trying to push you into evil.
So, I'm reading SoE's sheet and something's bothering me a little bit:QuoteInvasion of Minds: Capable of entering the minds of others and leaving a copy of himself that melds with them. This copy gains a complete understanding of the one who it is within. Using this it begins to slowly chip away at their insecurities making them doubt, making them fear, slowly and surly it will eat away at them all the while pushing them towards evil actions. This is not something from the ‘outside’ but rather it is a part of the person making them doubt themselves due to how it merges with them. He generally targets recent events to gain a foothold and dig in from there. The copy will also make it whenever the person sleeps they suffer intense, unescapable, nightmares which ware at the person’s psyche. This invasion cannot be detected and cannot be removed. A person with it will forever have to deal with the whispers of it, now as simply a part of them, trying to push you into evil.
Is this for everyone? Or can those with strong mental defenses resist? (Tom and Forest being the two psionics around here.)
Cloud of Evil: In his true form, as a conceptual existence, he is completely impossible to interact with. He can still be seen but any actions to touch him will be failures. However should someone move even a part of their body through him they will immediately begin to have their darkest desires rise to the forefronts of their minds and will feel the need to act on them. This desire and need will be so great that resisting will make them suffer physical pain and effects similar to drug withdrawal. This is not a form of mental interference on his part, but rather the evil in the person’s mind reacting to his proximity.
I think this is a bit too much, considering that you want us to RP SoE.
Sorry for the double post but also if you REALLY don't want SoE to be messing with your character with invasion you can just say so.
He will interact with them other ways should he find the worth messing with. Cause he has many tools in his arsenal.
Ivan I honestly don't know what to say to you them.
I am not trying to puppet master. If you don't believe me that your own grip. In all Zolgen acts more like a puppet master then SoE. SoE just flat out tries to mess with people.
If you don't want me using mind altering stuff then just tell me, if ya don't want him messing with your characters at all, then say so. That is all there is to it.
I've never seen any indication of an evil side to Shirou at all
yeah well those characters are other people's, so it's their choice
btw mike, temptation ain't always about evil sides and shit, it's more about the simpler, easier way out
like say
Mind of steel
I've never seen any indication of an evil side to Shirou at all
Minus the part where it's not about "evil sides",
EMIYA
Mind of Steel
the fact that he's completely fucking mental
And that's just scratching the surface.
You can tempt him to take easy actions that are bad, but I'm not sure if you could corrupt him into outright evil.
Isn't Neo pretty much already evil? I'm really not sure what there is to tempt him to do that he wouldn't do already, aside from things that are just plain idiotic (which is stupidity, not evil).
The only irreversible effect is the mental invasion, which is also the easiest to deal with if they don't have glaring mental issues.
And Chris you hit the nail on the head. He always tries and make people evil. But it is a gradual process performing small acts of evil as it integrates more into you as time passes. The temptation to preform evil acts is always there, but it is up to the person if they will act on it.
I mean he can cause an abrupt change under specific circumstances. But that not his style. People have to chose their path themselves, he just helps them along the honest one, giving them a little nudge in the right direction (Disclaimer: Nudge may or may not consist of causing intense mental and emotional trauma, your mileage might vary).
It says it gives them "intense, unescapable nightmares". That really doesn't sound like fun, and I certainly don't want any of my characters subjected to that for the rest of her life.Literally all your post needed to be.
And Ivan, most of the really super high level people are hard to turn. And Evil does not mean "KILL EVERYTHING" for everyone. His goal is not to kill people, just to make people be themselves (which is in his eyes their repressed evil).
(Disclaimer: Nudge may or may not consist of causing intense mental and emotional trauma, your mileage might vary).
Ok, Ivan and Mike.
The effects are not consistent. They might not cause nightmares, they might cause nightmares meant to pray on specific fears or desires, they might cause nightmare that just make the person unable to sleep.
The effects VARY and the person who has the character can determine them.
If you don't want it, I won't give it to you. The most SoE will do then will be to talk to your character or perform acts that anger, disturb, etc. them. And even then I might not even have SoE interact with them at all.
And my "Disclaimer" was a joke. You are both thinking to hard about it.
That all you had to say.
SoE will not mess with them in anyway that a normal person couldn't, as in simply talk to them or perhaps disturb/anger them with his actions, should he even meet them. Is that ok?
That all you had to say.
SoE will not mess with them in anyway that a normal person couldn't, as in simply talk to them or perhaps disturb/anger them with his actions, should he even meet them. Is that ok?
I hope you all can really see just how op she truly is.
Blah blah blah. OP! OP! OP! Durrrrr!
, one small notable feature though was the strange fact that all the islanders who lived there had the same purple eyes and hair regardless of age or gender.
or her parents, or whoever named her, were shit heads.
So Erufu, we discussed a little bit about expanding the size of Nexus or the like through VM's, wanna take it here so everyone here can give input?
Ideas so far:
- Increase size as time goes on.
- Buildings change or special/specific buildings are added by the season.
- Limbo-esque dimension change kinda like what you'd see in DMC?
So Erufu, we discussed a little bit about expanding the size of Nexus or the like through VM's, wanna take it here so everyone here can give input?
Ideas so far:
- Increase size as time goes on.
- Buildings change or special/specific buildings are added by the season.
- Limbo-esque dimension change kinda like what you'd see in DMC?
Isn't the Nexus just "as big as we need it to be" anyway?
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Magos, you should probably just alter the "magic resistance" in the Hunter to "Supernatural Tolerance". Most magic and powers that affect Spirits, Angels or Demons don't hurt Strix anyways even if some Blood Sorcery and Disciplines can, but their Shadow Potency does offer defense against the ones that can if they're directly used against them.Right but even then that damage is reduced to bashing, and only powers that inflict aggravated damage do it.
Jenn, Excalibur is only A++, not A+++.
Also, you should probably note in the sheet that without Prana Burst, she has the physical abilities of a Thai ladyboy in 6-inch heels.
See, I always thought this is ridiculous and a bit of bad story telling. She was trained as a Knight and worked her ass off as a squire. I mean, did she always use Prana Burst to fight? Pick up her sword? There's no way she should be that weak when Prana Burst isn't activated.
So I'm going to say she's been working with Rin and Archer to get HUEG. So she's D on the Human scale when her Burst isn't activated.
Archer: Unrevealed, but heavily implied to be ArjunaYeah, saw the rest named or implied in Brynhildr's case on the wiki.
The second and third floor hallways get longer and add rooms based on the number of occupants.
There is a red door on the back wall on the second floor entry that leads to a sort of armory where Minato stored all the weapons and armor he has collected.
It was originally a dorm for high schoolers in japan, the fact that there are male and female rooms in the same building is somewhat unusual.
That being said, Minato isn't going to say anything for awhile about that, he will only expect you to get separate rooms once you are both settled in well enough that it won't be a significant inconvenience. Everyone gets their own room; Nobody says anyone has to stay in their own room every night.
People who sign the book to become permanent residents will find their rooms become more suited to their needs. Rider may find extra bookshelves, with some of them stocked;
She may also find a convenient loose panel that lets her check on Kiyo in the room below hers as much as she wants, and even get to his room without having to run down the stairs.
Minato will likely tell them abot the book when he wakes up, around noon.
Signing the book makes you a resident officially.
When you do that a room on the appropriate floor will be auto stocked and restructured to suit your needs and preferences, Kiyo's might be filled with things he likes or that make him feel safe or inspires bravery for instance, and the person's name appears on their door.
The only obligations for children are to clean up their messes and not die.
Adults are expected to help keep food on the table either by bringing in groceries or actually cooking the food, but even that is more a matter of courtesy than anything, he won't say anything even if you don't.
As for the need to be near Kiyo, the dorm may go so far as to join the two rooms together or stick some stairs in the back of the room, time space dorm is as convenient as it needs to be, and you get to decide what the rooms turn out like; Though it will still stick the entrance to Rider's room on the third floor.
Calling dibs on Old Li Shu Wen.
More like a two level mini apartment but effectively yes. It would be two rooms technically but would be connected together as much as needed. It may be something like a room with a large loft above, something like that?
In that situation Shirou and Sakura would likely get a joined room like you want to give Rider and Kiyo, plus it would add a door that connects the two super rooms.
So after some deliberation with Jenn and others, it looks like the city is indeed expanding. So..... we need people who can draw to do this for us. Or anyone that can work out a program. It doesn't have to be super detailed. It can be as detailed as the actual map of now.MONKEY FAKER, MULE FISTER, DONKEY FUCKER
Check this link out and see how it's working out so far: https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1gUEy4oB1Iw2FKyyxGyUOWiUm-m2PQSKyGvH1whxye_o/edit
So please come and volunteer if any of you have the tools or skills for this. Cause we're gonna need it for this RP.
Nachos: THIS IS MONKEY FAKER APPROVED
the museum is a museum about famous zoolophiles, because why not
I thought we agreed on this
I submit that the highschool must be Honnouji Gakuen in northern ocean the ocean, to teach highschool and badassery.
It will also teach the supernaturals not to underestimate the power of seifuku.
There must be a room for 'coffee shop' with kush and other shit. Smoke weed everyday.
I submit that the highschool must be Honnouji Gakuen in northern ocean, to teach highschool and badassery.
It will also teach the supernaturals not to underestimate the power of seifuku.
Remnants of the 24th Harlech Regiment are inbound. Hold tight, trooper.
Except if they're followers of the imperial creed. PURGE THE UNCLEAN
As for his influence, that can be attributed to the locals liking him and/or respecting the power he wields and what it does for the community, the old man manipulating that to turn him into a hero figure and using the reputation it built up to stave off a large amount of threats; And his unnerving tendency to end up in leadership positions for no damn reason, even when he tries not to.People assumed this meant Igor. I was kinda wondering about that, I didn't notice any confirmation that it was Igor. That should answer that.
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I REGRET NOTHING
Prepare for an unexpected guest in the room Mike...
It'd hurt him I think, but I don't know if it'd be much more effective than any other magic or enchanted weapon. Magos is more the one to answer that though, again, I don't know much about Strix.Strix in vampires can be diablerized, and they can diablerize vampires in turn. Basically it's whoever gets in the first punch and makes it stick.
As for the empty building thing... I'm honestly not sure what you're talking about. ^^" Is there some special defense around the building or something?
Also on Strixes. I doubt this would happen, but what happens if a Strix has to deal with another being capable of devouring souls? Is it just who wins out first, or what would happen?
Will an all cutting sword of light hurt him? or Light magic?No and no. It has to be sunlight in particular, and only sunlight. Flashlight won't do shit, magic won't do shit if it's based in the physical, because he is fucking SHADOW.
Another question, what kind of ridiculous luck check did he pass to get into the dorm and not just find himself in an empty building like nearly any other uninvited guest would?
In case you are wondering I am slightly irritated that you decided to undermine my dorm without so much as a post in my general direction.
Strix in vampires can be diablerized, and they can diablerize vampires in turn. Basically it's whoever gets in the first punch and makes it stick.Ah, okay, gotcha. What about someone that can eat souls outright though? Is it similar in that regard, in that it's who gets to the punch first, or is it somewhat power level based?
It has to be sunlight in particular, and only sunlight. Flashlight won't do shit, magic won't do shit if it's based in the physical, because he is fucking SHADOW.Would a UV lamp work? Same wavelength of light.
Strix aren't really souls. They're strange as shit basically, I think the only reason they can be diablerized is because they're so close to the Beast of the Kindred. So if he's in a body and a Kindred pulls Diablerize out of his pocket then yeah, I *think* that'd do it.Strix in vampires can be diablerized, and they can diablerize vampires in turn. Basically it's whoever gets in the first punch and makes it stick.Ah, okay, gotcha. What about someone that can eat souls outright though? Is it similar in that regard, in that it's who gets to the punch first, or is it somewhat power level based?QuoteIt has to be sunlight in particular, and only sunlight. Flashlight won't do shit, magic won't do shit if it's based in the physical, because he is fucking SHADOW.Would a UV lamp work? Same wavelength of light.
And Kuro. How is Minato capable of doing any of this? From what I understand, Minato shouldn't really have much in terms of magical ability outside of his Persona.
Minato's sword is a holy grail beam saber, that I specified can cut whatever Minato wants it to, so I should hope it does a little more than base sword damage.
Space time dorm is called that because it is technically in eight places at once; But for practical purposes the dorm is in none of the places unless someone opens the front door at which point it's position becomes fixed in one of the places for a short time.
I have mentioned this before too.
To put it simply if someone who is not allowed tries to enter the dorm, it would almost definitely fix itself somewhere else. This is not infallible, someone with time space abilities could get around it, and someone with high enough luck could just walk right in thanks to simply turning the odds in their favor. Probability manipulation would also work.
Flying in through a window with no luck stat, no time space skill, no probability alteration, and no talking to me beforehand definitely does not work. >:(
Though I am having trouble not laughing at the concept of a persona protag not being able to kill a shadow. Probably a different sort of shadow but the thought is still hilarious.
That being said, I would like to know if Almighty, the damage attribute with the property of doing damage to everything, would affect your shadow bird. I ask partly out of base curiosity.
The Abyss of Time was totally made by the SEES members' personae over six months, it also facilitates time travel. That is practically half of the plot of The Answer.
Minato's sword is a holy grail beam saber, that I specified can cut whatever Minato wants it to, so I should hope it does a little more than base sword damage.
"It can cut whatever its wielder wants to" is the fucking most retarded power in this entire RP, exceeding even Minato's Armageddon, because there's a lot of fucking things in this RP you can't cut.Space time dorm is called that because it is technically in eight places at once; But for practical purposes the dorm is in none of the places unless someone opens the front door at which point it's position becomes fixed in one of the places for a short time.
I have mentioned this before too.
To put it simply if someone who is not allowed tries to enter the dorm, it would almost definitely fix itself somewhere else. This is not infallible, someone with time space abilities could get around it, and someone with high enough luck could just walk right in thanks to simply turning the odds in their favor. Probability manipulation would also work.
Flying in through a window with no luck stat, no time space skill, no probability alteration, and no talking to me beforehand definitely does not work. >:(
If you want people to respect your speshul magic thing that Minato shouldn't even have to begin with, then fucking list it in your character sheet instead of going "Oh you can't do X because my speshul thing I never listed prevents you from doing so."Though I am having trouble not laughing at the concept of a persona protag not being able to kill a shadow. Probably a different sort of shadow but the thought is still hilarious.
>Implying Shadows are actually made of shadows and not negative emotions. Jesus christ, did you even play the game?
That being said, I would like to know if Almighty, the damage attribute with the property of doing damage to everything, would affect your shadow bird. I ask partly out of base curiosity.
Almighty can do damage to anything, sure, doesn't mean it can actually hit. Strixes are immaterial and immune to things to things that hit immaterial things. Basically it's like trying to hit a hologram.The Abyss of Time was totally made by the SEES members' personae over six months, it also facilitates time travel. That is practically half of the plot of The Answer.
No, it was made by POWUH OFFU FRIENDSHIP YAMATO SPIRIT, something which doesn't exist in CE.
The Abyss of Time was totally made by the SEES members' personae over six months, it also facilitates time travel. That is practically half of the plot of The Answer.
Well, Rider should be able to see him, Kiyoshi should be waking up because this thing is literally stealing chunks of his soul from his breath, and the Strixes yellow yes are boreing into his.
Which would be extremely useful information if we had any IC reason to actually know this. It's not that I can't find any way to stop him, but that the only ways I can stop him involve blatant godmodding, so I need to at least get Elf to approve it first.Well he just needs to feed. He won't kill him.
Which would be extremely useful information if we had any IC reason to actually know this. It's not that I can't find any way to stop him, but that the only ways I can stop him involve blatant godmodding, so I need to at least get Elf to approve it first.Well he just needs to feed. He won't kill him.
It'd hurt but he'd be fine in a few days.Which would be extremely useful information if we had any IC reason to actually know this. It's not that I can't find any way to stop him, but that the only ways I can stop him involve blatant godmodding, so I need to at least get Elf to approve it first.Well he just needs to feed. He won't kill him.
Well, what would be the likely effect? I'm just trying to work out how to react here.
It'd hurt but he'd be fine in a few days.Which would be extremely useful information if we had any IC reason to actually know this. It's not that I can't find any way to stop him, but that the only ways I can stop him involve blatant godmodding, so I need to at least get Elf to approve it first.Well he just needs to feed. He won't kill him.
Well, what would be the likely effect? I'm just trying to work out how to react here.
Kurogami clearly is starting to lantz his char.
My Mage in making might have pretty versatile Awakened Magic that bends reality to his will, but I'm sure to add weaknesses that in practice makes spamming magic and doing something too blatantly magic a dangerous proposition (Paradox backslash).
I guess something I forgot to ask.
Why is this old man even doing this? What is his motivation? Why did he even pick Minato other than apparently being nice? How does he even have all these connections and influence?
The Abyss of Time was totally made by the SEES members' personae over six months, it also facilitates time travel. That is practically half of the plot of The Answer.
When the phenomena of Dark Hour and Tartarus was created, Tartarus, growing out of the ground each night eventually left a great cove underneath its roots. Following the death of the Protagonist, the Abyss of Time was attracted by SEES' grief and sorrow and spread its influence there, rooting down below the dorm. Eventually the Abyss of Time would become active, locking SEES in an infinite time loop where the time will re-reset itself whenever the clock hits 12:00 A.M., leaving time forever frozen on March 31.
I believe it's pretty much the equivalent to Kindred sucking blood that the Hunter is doing right now.
Also, the point with Strige that makes them so hard to deal with is precisely that normally very few things can hurt it, except for its Banes. That would be Fire and Sunlight plus whatever other Bane the Strix has acquired if it's been around long enough.
So, say, if it didn't use the Twilight Form power, a sword that can cut spirits still wouldn't be able to hurt it (unless it was specifically enchanted to hurt Strix by Blood Sorcery), but a shotgun with Dragon's Breath would because it's fire. And it doesn't matter if that fire is of supernatural or mundane origin, it is complete anathema to them.
Soreness and slight anemia, based on what YOLF said in the chat.
Kurogami clearly is starting to lantz his char.
My Mage in making might have pretty versatile Awakened Magic that bends reality to his will, but I'm sure to add weaknesses that in practice makes spamming magic and doing something too blatantly magic a dangerous proposition (Paradox backslash).
With Minato's time space control there is the issue of requiring long stretches of time (In the order 6 hours to several days, or shorter periods over weeks.) to do anything remotely significant with (I made a room slightly bigger!), and just because people seem to still have problems with it, I will add to that and say that the nexus supresses that and the only thing he can use time space power on is himself, the dorm, and things in the dorm.I guess something I forgot to ask.
Why is this old man even doing this? What is his motivation? Why did he even pick Minato other than apparently being nice? How does he even have all these connections and influence?
I will be making a sheet for this guy eventually so most of his story will have to wait but his motivation can be summed up as a split between his ambition to bring peace to as much of the nexus as possible, and his own amusement. His interest in Minato started when he was saved a huge chunk of trouble by Minato destroying a rather violent feral dragon that had gone on a rampage.The Abyss of Time was totally made by the SEES members' personae over six months, it also facilitates time travel. That is practically half of the plot of The Answer.
When the phenomena of Dark Hour and Tartarus was created, Tartarus, growing out of the ground each night eventually left a great cove underneath its roots. Following the death of the Protagonist, the Abyss of Time was attracted by SEES' grief and sorrow and spread its influence there, rooting down below the dorm. Eventually the Abyss of Time would become active, locking SEES in an infinite time loop where the time will re-reset itself whenever the clock hits 12:00 A.M., leaving time forever frozen on March 31.
Yeah my bad, I looked back over my notes and found that I had misremenbered a few things. I do not intend on taking out a bunch of things but I do want to try to be able to do the things I want to do without trampling lore too much. I actually have a better explanation in my notes that I will put in during my next edit.I believe it's pretty much the equivalent to Kindred sucking blood that the Hunter is doing right now.
Also, the point with Strige that makes them so hard to deal with is precisely that normally very few things can hurt it, except for its Banes. That would be Fire and Sunlight plus whatever other Bane the Strix has acquired if it's been around long enough.
So, say, if it didn't use the Twilight Form power, a sword that can cut spirits still wouldn't be able to hurt it (unless it was specifically enchanted to hurt Strix by Blood Sorcery), but a shotgun with Dragon's Breath would because it's fire. And it doesn't matter if that fire is of supernatural or mundane origin, it is complete anathema to them.
Right, I get it. The question now becomes, would it be too meta for Minato to know to use fire, normally I would say yes it is and leave it but the city is apparently full of them so my line of questioning becomes;
Are the strix as a whole recent or have they been in the city over a long period?
If they have been here a long time what are the chances of Minato having run into them before?
And if he attacked them would they flee before he cycled through the other elements and tried fire?
I will not interfere this time but I want to know just in case it comes up again later.Soreness and slight anemia, based on what YOLF said in the chat.
If that is all I will just have Minato heal the problem away at breakfast if Mike wants me to.
Too Meta. And the Strix have always been there. They just don't always show themselves. When calamity comes, the Owls come ahead of it, a Harbinger of disaster to come. With a possible demon apocalypse on the end, plus the Grail, they're being attracted in numbers because to them this is like a god damn dinner show. Plus, if he ever met one, I doubt he'd KNOW or have been even able to hit it before it decided he'd make a nice host, possessed him, and gone fucking apeshit with him because it can until his body rots to dust, in approximately 2 weeks or so. They'd probably not attack. They don't attack as much as take what they want. And what they want can be anything from a body to seeing someone commit suicide to just talking.
Fucking hell you're going full on Satoshi with Minato, Kurogami.
Took me a while but the temple trio is finally here. Now to get down to business.
As for what's going on with Haruna's group are you making enough racket for her to notice? This place seems pretty big so I'm not sure if she would hear it.
Welp, guess Lyco Aptera and Enkidu don't need to reenact Colossus throwing Wolvy.
Wow, Ramesses bailed out like a bitch.
That is called the "Fastball Special".As a Marvel fan (though usually Spidey-centric), I should've remembered that. I have brought shame to my house. ;w;
1v1 me fgt swear on me mum I'll cut yer nans legs off.You ain't Spinach, m8.
1v1 me fgt swear on me mum I'll cut yer nans legs off.
Not but srs I can't fight three niggas that strong without Mesektet. Had to give a few Intelligence points to the greatest tactical mind of Egypt by Balling that shit before he gets torn to shits. If any of them wants to pursue, they are free to of course
Really I call it "bailing out like a bitch" as opposed to "wise tactical retreat" because that's what it is given his attitude so far.
I'm not sure who should post "first" in reaction to Ramesses II running away, between Phoenix, Lyco Aptera, Enkidu, or Gilgamesh.
as well as applying hard limits (and Nerf Foam) to some (read:A LOT) of his powers including the ones I had yet to reveal.
his powers including the ones I had yet to reveal.
as well as applying hard limits (and Nerf Foam) to some (read:A LOT) of his powers including the ones I had yet to reveal.his powers including the ones I had yet to reveal.
You realize this is metagaming, right? It's precisely one of the things that got lantz the boot. Deliberately hiding powers on his sheet is metagaming, and 100% against the rules. There's a clear difference between changing a sheet because of a character trait (IE Quinn can turn into a Rogue Dhampire under certain circumstances, but it is a permanent change to his sheet, cannot be undone, and loses him other things on it) and deliberately hiding powers. The latter is metagaming.
As long as he's not tried to use powers he hasn't told us about beforehand, I don't think you can call meta-gaming on it.
Also, hiding powers is not in itself meta-gaming. It only becomes meta-gaming when you start actually using those powers. As long as he's not tried to use powers he hasn't told us about beforehand, I don't think you can call meta-gaming on it.It's metagaming because he willingly gave in an incomplete sheet and had powers stowed away for "later", powers that were undefined and could damn well be whatever he could want them to be.
Sorry guys, I won't be on line at all tomorrow. Twelve hour trek to the in-laws after an early shift at work. I will be back on Friday.
I posted and everything.
Sorry guys, I won't be on line at all tomorrow. Twelve hour trek to the in-laws after an early shift at work. I will be back on Friday.Have fun Elf!
I posted and everything.
Shadow Vassal - This is the one I expect to be hearing about; So yeah Minato can now make exactly one shadow follow his commands. This has more limits than the other two:
1. Minato can only control shadows of the same arcana as him.
2. Minato can only give up to three simple commands to it, once given the orders cannot be changed or revoked.
3. Minato can only control one shadow, to control a new shadow the old one has to die.
Right now I am just putting everything in, if there is anything I am totally banned from using I will just tag it as sealed in the profile.Lantz tried that with the Rider arm.
Right now I am just putting everything in, if there is anything I am totally banned from using I will just tag it as sealed in the profile.Lantz tried that with the Rider arm.
You'll have to remove it entirely
Lantz never had to remove the Rider arm from Toshi's profile entirely, he just had to agree not to use it.
Though given that Minato was first approved with EX servant everything and nothing to make him unique, I think this is a vast improvement over what I started with, no matter how it turns out.This isn't true. In fact, according to the edit history, before any edits, you had his stats as thus (notably you didn't specify what scale it was on either):
He shouldn't have EX Servant stats. In everything. Nor should he have all these abilities that don't make sense with canon. And he certainly wasn't approved with those stats. This is very similar to what lantz pulled, and it's not good at all.
He shouldn't have EX Servant stats. In everything. Nor should he have all these abilities that don't make sense with canon. And he certainly wasn't approved with those stats. This is very similar to what lantz pulled, and it's not good at all.To be fair, Lorelei shouldn't have servant-level A-rank magic either, and the GM allowed that through.
He shouldn't have EX Servant stats. In everything. Nor should he have all these abilities that don't make sense with canon. And he certainly wasn't approved with those stats. This is very similar to what lantz pulled, and it's not good at all.To be fair, Lorelei shouldn't have servant-level A-rank magic either, and the GM allowed that through.
Why not? Lorelei is basically blasting people with extremely powerful basic spells. The extremely powerful is what makes it A rank.
It's more about it being EX rank (the scale was just a side note). The sheet wasn't approved with him having EX ranked Servant stats. It's a matter of realism. There's taking liberties and maybe stretching it a bit (Lorelei's magic rank would be this category), and then there's taking so many liberties and overpowering so much that suspension of disbelief is completely and utterly shattered (this is what lantz did regularly. Minato's sheet is looking to fall under this).
What makes it worse in this case is all this other stuff was there was never told to the GM. Whether Minato would have been approved with his full sheet or not is debatable, and caveats likely would have been applied if it was. There's a difference between having a few stats be dubious and having the whole sheet be dubious. That's the key difference here.
She isn't. In a battle of magic Medea vaporizes any modern magus. There is more to magic then the amount of firepower you have. Lorelei just has enough to blast everything to smithereens. Her firepower is what gets her A rank. She blows shit up good. There is also the thing where her spells approach True Magic.
And, honestly, I don't think even True Magic is servant rank A, because I would expect a servant of that rank to be able to do multiple things that we would call "True Magic".
A-rank human, perhaps. A-rank servant means high-tier Age of the Gods magic, the sort that has only been possessed by a handful of people throughout history. Nasu made it perfectly clear that modern humans aren't on the level of ancient ones in terms of magic, I don't recall him saying "but Lorelei is an exception".
Anyway I'm not having this stupid argument again. You can believe what you will but it's not influencing my sheet.
Sure, but it's damn hypocritical for you to be criticising Kuro's stats when you have made Lorelei so ludicrously OP.
Minus the part where Lorelei's powerlevels are about as accurate as you can make them based on what little we know of her.
And I'm not gonna hear that from someone who believes Sakura honestly stands an an astronomical chance against Ciel.
No, they really aren't.
No, they really aren't.
State your fucking counterargument instead of going "nuh uh I said so".
Magical ability is an impossible thing to judge with servant stats.
Because Emiya has a magecraft skill and all it says he has basic understanding of fundemental magecraft.
The reason Medea is better then any modern magus is because her AoG magecraft with HSDW has a impossibly high affinity vs modern shit, it has more mystery and simply wins out because of it. Also she can deconstruct A-rank spells but I would assume that lends itself to the previous point.
Saying something has "A+ Servant rank magical ability" is completely hollow as shit. Because that could mean nothing. In a battle of magecraft it is about affinity and mystery rather then power.
It is something that modern humans cannot do anymore, its mystery far outstrips modern shit, hell its mystery is probably on the level of true magic because of how old it is.
Medea is not a standard you should hold to anyone about level of magecraft. Because what she does is something so impossibly far from modern magecraft it simply resembles it in result.
Hell, even other casters that don't have HSDW would be hard pressed to be even close to Medea on mystery, because HSDW is better. That's all it is.
Yes, hence why she has a servant level stat in it, whereas modern magi have human level stats. Saying "a modern magus can't reach that level" is kind-of missing the point of the servant/mortal stat distinction. Yes, I know a modern magus can't reach that level, which is why we have servant-level stats in order to rank those who can.
Yes, hence why she has a servant level stat in it, whereas modern magi have human level stats. Saying "a modern magus can't reach that level" is kind-of missing the point of the servant/mortal stat distinction. Yes, I know a modern magus can't reach that level, which is why we have servant-level stats in order to rank those who can.
EMIYA is a very modern magus, is pretty garbage at magecraft, and has C- Servant Magecraft.
Lorelei is a modern magus with an Age of Gods bloodline, super special Barthomeloi-only circuits who pimpsmacks DAA with Magecraft, and according to you that doesn't even reach Servant level.
Good. Glad I understand your logic (I don't)
EMIYA doesn't have C- servant magecraft, he has C- human magecraft. If you take EMIYA as a baseline, then the mortal/servant distinction is utterly irrelevant.
EMIYA doesn't have C- servant magecraft, he has C- human magecraft. If you take EMIYA as a baseline, then the mortal/servant distinction is utterly irrelevant.
EMIYA is a Servant with a C- rank in Magecraft. That's why it's called C- Servant Magecraft. There's no two ways about it.
Then why bother even having a servant scale for magecraft when it is identical to the human scale?
There shouldn't be. Mainly because a "Average human", which is what C-rank human stats mean in this system, has no ability in magecraft what so ever.
Honestly, I just think two scales for Magic Ability is redundant. Not only because it is a subjective enough thing that it always requires a detailed explanation anyways (since not everyone has magic and those that do vary significantly), but because having two scales invites confusion and stupid arguments like this.
An example of the way I would see it: Rin would have A magic ability, because within the magic system she uses (modern Magecraft) she is good enough overall to qualify as a top user in every way that counts. But Medea would also have A or A+ because within her magic system (High Speed Divine Words and Age Of The Gods Magecraft), she is also that powerful.
Yet Medea is a more powerful magic user than Rin because they way they use magecraft is inherently different. Now, this kind of difference is something that has to be specified in the explanation of the character's magic ability following the rank. And that's a thing that already benefits from detail, so it's not really as hard as that.
Also, Knick, your most recent statement is really confusing me. You mean what EMIYA is ranked at, which isn't actually human level stats unless for magecraft it's the exact same thing, and why do you say that they would have no ability in magecraft? EMIYA's really shitty at magecraft that doesn't have to do with UBW or isn't reinforcement/projection, but he can at least do it. Am I reading something wrong?
...Also, does this mean I have to go back and redo magic stats for my sheets?
Mooncake, you're alive! :D
reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated. still somewhat true thoughHow much did the necromancy or cybernetic revival cost?
I'm just waiting on Magos to post and then I'll work on my next mega chunk.Now that I'm done with Work and writing up stuff for my game I'll start on the post.
Also, Rev, it looks like you're having fun writing Gig.
Hmm, let me see if I can fix those problems...
--15 Minutes Later--
OK, I think I've got something;
"Use of the doors are a phenomena limited to humans, although use by former humans and part humans is possible as long as they retain humanity. Former humans who have lost their humanity and part humans who have ceased to be human at all will be unable to access the doors even if they were previously able to. Beings that are fully inhuman from the start are entirely incompatible with the doors."
and also;
"After arriving in the nexus, most of the doors that lead to places that are not part of the city became sealed, and have not opened since."
Will that make it work better?
> Grey KnightIt might very well be. I wrote it up expecting a rather high chance of it being turned down. Oh well. If the Grey Knight Terminator gets in, he gets in. If he doesn't, he doesn't.
Goddamn it man.
Also, I think that may be a tad too sci-fi. Dunno.
Hey, I'm not the one who makes that call! Elf is. And we've already got guardsmen, so I really don't know.It's fine.
please don't mistake my opinions for me trying to enforce where the line should be drawn ;w;
I'm leaving it up to Elf whether or not we'll see a Grey Knight Terminator order coffee in Nexus City.
Also, waiting on Moon Moon.Heh. :3
Welp, I didn't get a reply for Rattus.
Why would a space marine be allowed if Jar Jar is not?
Look at his race, also no. Your trying to get something slipped in on changing one line when we all know your just going to play Jar-Jar.
Who is definitely an alien.
Also, Arch, are you intending to reply to my post with Rider with Strix, or should I just assume that you've gone and move on to the next day?Yes, I am. Considering I waited over a week for your post, you could give me a little more time.
Also, Arch, are you intending to reply to my post with Rider with Strix, or should I just assume that you've gone and move on to the next day?Yes, I am. Considering I waited over a week for your post, you could give me a little more time.
Welp, I didn't get a reply for Rattus.
Check again.
Why would a space marine be allowed if Jar Jar is not?
Hey Kuro not to be rude but you've been keeping mike and myself waiting for long over a month now, at this point you gotta give us something or we will have to improvise.He's not allowed to post until his profile is 100% finished, and re-GM approved.
Hey Kuro not to be rude but you've been keeping mike and myself waiting for long over a month now, at this point you gotta give us something or we will have to improvise.He's not allowed to post until his profile is 100% finished, and re-GM approved.
It's a GM demand.
Hey Kuro not to be rude but you've been keeping mike and myself waiting for long over a month now, at this point you gotta give us something or we will have to improvise.
long over a month
Hey Kuro not to be rude but you've been keeping mike and myself waiting for long over a month now, at this point you gotta give us something or we will have to improvise.Quotelong over a month
The rule is 24 hours. You are very well within your rights to continue on at this exact moment if you so desire.
I've been sick and working Mike give me a break.
Well, if Lyco Aptera is to hesitant Phoenix might just command the wings itself to play with its new dragon friend.Hadn't considered that. With that in mind, I'll likely post within the next 2-3 days. Apologies for the wait.
Also, Latin is a bitch.It can be. I had/have more fun with Greek than with Latin.
IT IS DONE.Done with the sheet? Good! Minato's unapproved.
No really I am Fucking finished!
My Gods that was horrific, I hope I never have to go through this again.
Name: Arisato Minato
Race: Ascended Human
Age: 17 (Physically - Aging has Ceased)
Height: 170 cm
Eyes: Grey
Hair: Blue
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Alignment: Variable Neutral
Base Stats
On the Servant Scale
Strength: X
Agility: X
Speed: X
Endurance: X
Mana: X
Luck: X
Magic Resistance:
The equipment grants strong resistances to everything, further enhanced by the persona though the effect Varies according to the one currently equipped.
Magic Ability:
Fire, Ice, Wind, Electric, Light, Dark, Almighty, Powerful fusion Spells, and other spells of various types are made available through persona.
General Magic RankingAgi- C
Maragi- D
Agilao- A
Maragilao- B
Agidyne- A++
Maragidyne- A+
Ragnarok- EX
Special Ability:
PERSONA
A Persona is a manifestation of a person's personality, referred to as a "mask" for an individual to use to face hardship. A Persona is similar to a Shadow. Shadows are malevolent manifestations of ones inner thoughts, while a Persona is a manifestation of the same feelings but tamed and trained. A Persona grants numerous benefits to it's user, a few of which are actually useful outside of battle.
As a side note, as a persona is a manifestation of the user's psyche, a change in the persona is effectively a change in the user's personality, to a greater or lesser extent.
The user's base stats are equal to the equipped Persona's listed stats. The evoked Persona has double the listed stats. The effects of skills take precedence over innate resistances.
The Inherent attributes are unique traits particular to a single Persona granted to it's user while equipped.
MessiahArcana: Judgement
Str: 63
Mgi: 62
End: 60
Agi: 62
Lck: 63
Innate
Resist:Fire/Ice/Electric/Wind
Block:None
Absorb:None
Reflect:Light
Weak:Dark
Inherent Attribute:
Living Messiah
The attribute possessed by a messiah that allows for the performance of miracles. Though this is seen as an amazing thing it is considered very troublesome by it's owner due to it's limitations; It allows the user to normally perform only one miracle once per day, and he is only able to perform "Miracles attributed to the messiah". The more well known the miracle is the more easily and effectively it can be performed. As such "Walking on water" and "Making water into wine" can be performed freely after being used once but "Forcibly ending magic based flight" and "Healing any ailment" is limited to a single use.
Messianic Presence
The presence held by all those who can be called Messiah. Those of strong evil alignment will feel irrational fear, and those of good alignment feel comfort or safety. Those seeking redemption and those who wish for salvation are drawn to him. Those of Judeo-Christian faith or origin will recognize the holder of this skill as a messiah immediately. As a side effect however, the user may find that the amplified authoritativeness that comes along with this causes one to dominate social situations without noticing. This skill also affects the user.
Passive Skills:
Regenerate 3
Heals a bit of HP every turn.
Invigorate 3
Restores a bit of SP every turn
Absorb Pierce
Absorb Pierce Attacks
Enduring Soul
Restores all HP upon death once per battle
Active Skills:
Megidolaon
Inflicts Severe Almighty Damage upon a wide area.
God's Hand
Inflict Severe Strike Damage upon one enemy.
Salvation
Removes Status ailments and fully restores party HP.
ThanatosArcana: Death
Str: 48
Mgi: 51
End: 44
Agi: 44
Lck: 39
Innate
Resist: Slash/Strike
Block: None
Absorb: None
Reflect: Dark
Weak: Light
Inherent Attribute:
Soul Appraise
Simply put the ability to see souls. It only allows for perception of the shape and structure; Things like seeing memories or a person's deepest nature is eternally beyond him, but damage from spiritual attacks and concepts can be visualized. It need not be said that spiritual existences that are normally invisible will also be revealed.
Last Peace
The attribute of Thanatos as the bringer of death without suffering; Blows struck will cause the targets sense of pain to degrade, a mortal wound cutting the sense off entirely. This can be seen as the single mercy granted by the god of death, an end without pain.
Passive Skills:
1hd Sword Master
Increases Damage inflicted with one handed swords
Active Skills:
Megidola
Inflicts heavy Almighty Damage over a wide area.
Tempest Slash
Inflicts heavy multiple slash damage upon one enemy.
Ghastly Wail
Instantly destroys all enemies with Fear mental ailment
Mahamaon
Banishes all enemies with the power of light (Med)
Brave Blade
Inflict heavy slash damage upon one enemy.
Orpheus TelosArcana: Fool
Str: 75
Mgi: 72
End: 72
Agi: 72
Lck: 72
Innate
Resist: All
Block: None
Absorb: None
Reflect: None
Weak: None
Inherent Attribute:
Master of Strings
A fitting ability for the persona Orpheus, this skill increases one's aptitude with stringed instruments. It's effectiveness is based on the degree of skill one already possesses with an instrument; One will become barely passable with an instrument one has little experience or talent with, but with an instrument that one has natural talent and many of practice with one could even compare to the greatness of the original, though they would never quite equal him.
True Zero
The ultimate ability of something that stands at the pinnacle of the fool arcana. As it possesses no original ability of it's own, it can acquire any skill it's owner wishes to. There are three limitations that exist on this originally almighty ability due to the interference of the nexus.
1. Only one skill may be recreated using this skill at any time; If a new skill is acquired, the currently held skill is lost.
2. In order to learn a skill, either Orpheus Telos or Minato equipped with Orpheus Telos must experience the skill and endure it; Ex. To learn a fire spell he has to be hit by it and remain conscious while Orpheus Telos is equipped.
3. A skill can only be recreated to the degree that it was experienced; Ex. Minato learns a fire spell by being hit with a fireball, and sees the same spell used later by the same person to create a torrent of flame that fills a room, Minato will still only be able to create a fireball.
Due to the limitations introduced by the nexus this is close to being the least used ability available to Minato, but it is possible that it may become useful in some nebulous future.
Passive Skills:
Victory Cry
Fully restores HP and SP after battle.
Active Skills:
Wild Card- The Universe
The power to wield many Persona, even changing between them mid battle. Unlike the three Persona Orpheus Telos, Thanatos, and Messiah, which are fixed, wild card Persona can be gained, lost, combined, and replaced depending on the circumstances. Normally The Universe would allow the user to use any Persona they wished, but the unusual nature of the nexus has limited his available Persona to twelve in total.
SurtArcana: Magician
Str: 40
Mgi: 49
End: 35
Agi: 26
Lck: 32
Innate
Resist: None
Block: None
Absorb: Fire
Reflect: None
Weak: Ice
Inherent Attribute:
Border of Muspell
A high level boundary skill only usable with Surt equipped. An effect based on the simple idea of "Keep out what does not belong". It creates a ring of fire around a set area, and only what is defined as belonging there by the owner of the space can exist there. Anything within the field that does not belong is immolated mercilessly by the flames of Muspell. The user of the skill is not excluded from this effect. Only eldjottuns and high ranking fire elementals are entirely immune to the effect of the boundary; But beings with similar levels of fire resistance can pass through with minor discomfort, and in theory a being with the concept of "Owning Everything" could ignore the boundary and pass through due to superior quality of ownership.
There are a number of limits that make it unwise to use this skill without heavy deliberation before hand. There is no limit to the time that the boundary can be maintained other than the user's endurance, however once the boundary is released it cannot be activated again for three days. The size of the boundary also affects the energy consumption. The user must remain within the boundary at all times to maintain it. The user cannot evoke or take any combat actions while the boundary is active due to the drain of keeping the boundary up. If the user dies or loses consciousness, the boundary will drop.
Passive Skills:
Fire Boost
Strengthens Fire attacks by 25%
Fire Amp
Strengthens Fire attacks by 50%
Active Skills:
Agidyne
Inflicts heavy Fire damage to one foe
Deathbound
Deals heavy Slash damage to enemies in a wide area
Maragidyne
Deals heavy Fire damage over a wide area
Ragnarok
Deals severe Fire damage to one foe
SkadiArcana: Empress
Str: 48
Mgi: 57
End: 47
Agi: 45
Lck: 50
Innate
Resist: None
Block: None
Absorb: Ice
Reflect: None
Weak: Fire
Inherent Attribute:
Ruler of the Mountain Snows
A skill that allows one to control and reshape existing ice and snow to a limited extent. As a consequence sheets of ice will never break no mater how thin and snow will never give way no matter how deep; As the user controls the ice subconsciously to prevent it. Due to the nature of the Persona, this skill grows stronger based on ones altitude; And will weaken as one grows closer to the sea, being rendered useless in the sea itself. The skill is entirely ineffective against salt water ice as a consequence. In the Nexus this skill is very useful against werewolves during the winter when it snows, but fails to do much against most things with any level of skill or endurance greater than the average werewolf.
Passive Skills:
Ice Amp
Greatly Strengthens Ice attacks.
Absorb Fire
Absorbs Fire damage
Active Skills:
Mabufudyne
Deals heavy Ice Damage/Freezes a wide area
Tetrakarn
Physical Damage Reflection Barrier
Akasha Arts
Deals Heavy Strike damage to all foes in range
Niflheim
Deals severe Ice damage to one foe
OdinArcana: Emperor
Str: 39
Mgi: 52
End: 33
Agi: 36
Lck: 39
Innate
Resist: None
Block: None
Absorb: Elec
Reflect: None
Weak: Wind
Inherent Attribute:
Sleipnir
The right given by Odin to call forth the God Beast Sleipnir. In legend it took the form of an eight legged horse, but it's true nature is to be "The greatest of all steeds"; As such it will always take a form that allows it to fulfill that role. Here in the Nexus, or perhaps simply in the modern age, Sleipnir takes the form of an enormous motorcycle; The entire body seemingly made from a single chunk of steel rendered in the image of the beast of legend, the engine that roars like a raging beast and spews out violet lightning, and the wheels that shatter concrete that ride upon the sea and the air.
Although Minato is able to ride the Sleipnir at abnormally high speeds, he is unable to keep up in the air for very long and cannot perform combat actions in the air at all.
Passive Skills:
Elec Amp
Greatly increases damage output of Elec spells
Spell Master
Halves SP consumption for magic skills
Active Skills:
Ziodyne
Inflicts a large amount of Electricity damage/stuns one enemy
Vile Assault
Inflicts a large amount of Pierce damage with even greater power if the target is knocked down
Maziodyne
Inflicts a large amount of Electricity damage/shocks a wide area
Thunder Reign
Inflicts severe Elec damage on one enemy always inflicts stun
NornArcana: Fortune
Str: 40
Mgi: 54
End: 32
Agi: 46
Lck: 44
Innate
Resist: None
Block: None
Absorb: Wind
Reflect: None
Weak: Elec
Inherent Attribute:
Bonds of Fate
The ability granted by the Norns is to perceive the links between cause and effect. This when combined with analysis and experience allows for accurate prediction of the immediate future in short bursts. It is extremely dangerous to use repeatedly or continuously as doing so puts a significant strain on the user's brain. As it is now, Minato is able to use it for up to thirty seconds continuously, and for around five minutes over a twenty four hour period without permanent damage.
Passive Skills:
Wind Amp
Greatly increases Wind damage
Regenerate 3
Restores 15% HP at the start of each turn
Invigorate 3
Restores 7 SP at the start of each turn
Absorb Elec
Absorb Elec attacks
Active Skills:
Magarudyne
Inflicts a large amount of Wind damage over a wide area
Panta Rhei
Inflicts a massive amount of Wind damage to one enemy
AliceArcana: Death
Str: 31
Mgi: 50
End: 27
Agi: 42
Lck: 39
Innate
Resist: None
Block: None
Absorb: None
Reflect: Dark
Weak: Light
Inherent Attribute:
Delusional Wonderland
The Ability of Alice which allows Minato to release a delusion into the world. The skill is activated by Minato, who designates an enclosed space as Wonderland; Within this space Alice manifests as a semi-physical hallucination. The degree to which she is able to affect the environment and those in it is determined by the number of individuals who have observed her since the activation of Wonderland.
Initially, Delusional Alice is visible to no individuals other than Minato. Upon being visually confirmed by Minato, Delusional Alice becomes visible to others. Delusional Alice gains full ability to physically interact with her environment with five observers, and at ten she is able to rewrite her surroundings to some extent. Any changes wrought by Delusional Alice are reverted when the skill is ended. It should be understood that Delusional Alice and the Persona Alice do not possess the same abilities, nor are they bound by the same rules; Delusional Alice is not bound to follow Minato's orders as the Persona Alice is, but is also unable to use any of the Persona Alice's skills. Minato is unable to access the Persona Alice while Delusional Wonderland is active.
Delusional Wonderland is bound by three rules, the violation of any of which will cause the skill to immediately end.
1. Wonderland can only exist indoors.
2. Alice cannot ever leave Wonderland.
3. At least one individual who has observed Alice must remain in Wonderland at all times.
Passive Skills:
Repel Dark
Able to repel Dark attacks
Mudo Boost
Dark spells become more effective
Active Skills:
Evil Touch
25% chance to inflict Fear ailment to one target
Spirit Drain
Siphons 20 SP from one foe
Die for Me!
80% chance of death by Dark for foes in a wide area
Marakunda
Lowers defense of enemies in a wide area
DaisoujouArcana: Hierophant
Str: 32
Mgi: 44
End: 36
Agi: 29
Lck: 38
Innate
Resist: Strike
Block: Light
Absorb: None
Reflect: None
Weak: Dark
Inherent Attribute:
Specialized Spirit Arts
The Skill granted by the Daisoujou is to wield some of it's power in the original form. This includes focusing Minato's spiritual power for use and also amplifying it to some minor degree; But primarily comes in the form of the knowledge of the Daisoujou's highly customized techniques and rituals, formed from not just Buddhist teachings but also a containing great deal of knowledge from Shinto; Several of the techniques even seem to be deliberate expansions of known Onmyo techniques. Due to some degree of spiritual incompatibility, as well as the over personalized nature of the techniques, Minato is unable to make use of any of the powerful high level skills. He is however able to use low and mid level skills with efficiency and power comparable to a master.
Passive Skills:
Growth 3
Gain full experience while inactive
Null Dark
Immune to Dark attacks
Hama Boost
Greatly increases effectiveness of Light skills
Active Skills:
Hamaon
50% chance of instant death by light to one foe
Diarahan
Recover all HP to one ally
Samsara
80% chance of instant death by Light to all foes
SatanArcana: Judgement
Str: 51
Mgi: 60
End: 52
Agi: 47
Lck: 58
Innate
Resist: None
Block: None
Absorb: None
Reflect: Fire/Dark
Weak: Wind
Inherent Attribute:
The Deceiver
The skill granted by Satan is simply the ability to deceive; With it Minato is able to obscure or falsify the level of power he has and lie in such a way that those well versed in detecting falsehoods, even machines designed to do so will be unable to see it for the deceit that it is. It is the voice of the great deceiver, the adversary of humanity, and as such is nigh infallible against a human lacking divine protection; It's effectiveness wanes against those who are dissimilar in mentality to humans, and anyone who has seen through his deceit once will not be affected a second time.
Passive Skills:
Regenerate 3
Restores a bit of HP every turn
Invigorate 3
Restores a bit of SP every turn
Repel Light
Repel Light skills
Active Skills:
Megidola
Inflicts heavy Almighty damage over a wide area
Maragidyne
Inflicts heavy Fire damage over a wide area
Black Viper
Inflicts massive Almighty damage upon one enemy
LuciferArcana: Judgement
Str: 65
Mgi: 68
End: 64
Agi: 52
Lck: 52
Innate
Resist: Slash/Strike/Pierce
Block: Electricity
Absorb: None
Reflect: Dark
Weak: Ice
Inherent Attribute:
Lord of Chaos
The attribute of Lucifer is one that constantly acts to increase the amount of chaos in the world. This is accomplished by a passive system that generates mental, spiritual, and physical interference to lower the influence of Law in all of it's forms. People in it's range will be more impulsive and less likely to consider things like the law or morality. Thaumaturgy and similar practices become both stronger and easier to use as natural laws become weaker, less enforced. The effect becomes far more pronounced if Lucifer is evoked, causing localized disruptions in the fabric of reality through sheer presence.
Passive Skills:
Spell Master
Halves cost of all Magic skills
Victory Cry
Fully recovers HP and SP after battle
Active Skills:
Maziodyne
Inflicts heavy Thunder damage over a wide area
Brave Blade
Inflicts heavy Slash damage upon one enemy
Makarakarn
Repel one Fire/Ice/Wind/Thunder/Light/Dark attack
Megidolaon
Inflicts heavy Almighty damage over a wide area
HelelArcana: Star
Str: 64
Mgi: 63
End: 61
Agi: 57
Lck: 58
Innate
Resist: Slash/Strike/Pierce
Block: Light
Absorb: None
Reflect: None
Weak: Ice
Inherent Attribute:
Defiance of Law
If Lucifer's ability can be called "Something that frees others from the bindings of Law" then Helel's is one that "Claims freedom for oneself". It is a conceptual effect targeting only the user's body that unconditionally reduces the effect of processes that rely on or are based off of a form of law. At the same time, processes that defy or circumvent Law in some way will have an exaggerated effect on him. That is to say that a backstab will always be a critical hit but he gets a defense bonus against someone with a stringent code of honor facing him head on. Thaumaturgy will inflict more damage but Authorities will be reduced in effect. Things like True Magic which are both Laws and Violations at once cannot be handled by this skill.
Passive Skills:
Absorb Slash
Absorb Slash attacks
Active Skills:
Primal Force
Inflicts severe Pierce damage on one enemy
Maragidyne
Inflict heavy Fire damage over a wide area
Mind Charge
Charges power for next spell, damage x2.5
Morning Star
Inflicts severe Almighty damage over a wide area
Salvation
Recovers all HP and status for allies in a large area
Inherent Attribute
The unique capability that is granted to a persona user by their persona. This ability is inherent in all personae. Normally a persona will only possess one inherent attribute, but certain special personae will possess two; A persona that has undergone an evolution will retain the ability from it's previous form, in addition to it's new one. Because of the nature of inherent attributes a normal persona user will only ever have access to one or two of these abilities. It is the users of the Wild Card who are able to truly take advantage of the different abilities granted by persona.
Fusion Spells
The highest form of power, attained by unleashing two compatible Persona at once.
Armageddon
The End, ultimate power which obliterates all in it's path. The form it takes varies according to the user's will. Armageddon reveals the last Truth, that in the end all things will become as nothing once more. The true form of this spell is an unstoppable wave of destruction which leaves only the azure star of mourning to witness what remains. The immense strain involved in using this Spell in particular makes more than a single use per day entirely impossible.
Other Abilities:
Charm- A+
A measure of ones attractiveness, both in speech and appearance. At this level the effect can be mistaken for a magical compulsion. Grants a bonus to persuasion, and at ranks higher than B also provides a bonus to Charisma.
Courage- A+
The measure of ones ability to overcome fear and face dangers to ones life.
At this level the impossible is made possible through sheer force of will, one can only be called a badass; Even the eldritch horror that is Fuuka's cooking can be faced without flinching.
Academics- A+
A measure of the knowledge one has accumulated. Higher ranks allow for broader and deeper knowledge, as well as understanding of more obscure subjects. At this level one can be called a genius whose knowledge has exceeded what can be gained merely through study, possessing a deep understanding in a large number of subjects.
Mind of the Universe
The presence of a vast number of Persona has the side effect of rendering mental intrusion by beings with minds less vast than an elder god unwise...
Knockdowns
Not always in the form of actually being knocked down, Minato will always have an adverse reaction to proximity to or contact with his current weakness, the effects can range from general discomfort to massive damage or unfathomable agony. Constant damage from a weakness may prevent Minato from switching Persona until the damage ceases.
Immune and Absorb
In a similar manner to his weaknesses, his immunities are enforced on a conceptual level. That is to say that an attack of the Fire element regardless of it's power or direction will never harm Minato while he is immune. Absorb should be obvious, things that should hurt heal instead, but only when the right Persona is equipped.
Social Link
The true source of Arisato Minato's power, simply put is bonds between others. This manifests quite strongly in Minato's case as The Universe, a power no one had possessed before and no one has since. Due to Minato being complete as an entity, the flow of the links have changed and now grows, stabilizes, and evolves the potential of those he is linked to. This can manifest as growth of existing abilities, development of new ones, or even gaining access to abilities that were previously out of reach. All that can be said for certain is that the growth will always be beneficial in some way, and that it's effect grows as the link does.
Inhuman Soul
Having once hosted a portion of Death in his soul, Minato's soul is no longer entirely that of a human. Even as part of Minato's soul and humanity bled into Death allowing it to later become Mochizuki Ryoji, an equal amount of the inhuman essence of Death was merged with Minato's soul. The result of this did not make itself known until after Minato arrived in Nexus City, solidifying into two distinct skills each with its' own weaknesses and limitations; Lesser forms of the power from which they originate.
Dark Moment
Only at night once per night, Minato is able to disrupt the flow of time momentarily to produce a lag in local space time. Such a thing is entirely useless in most cases, but it may be able to disrupt certain types of effects...
Were Minato willing this skill could in theory be used to institute a Dark Hour, but the energy requirement for such a feat would be beyond astronomical, it is not an amount that could be gathered on one's own even with a thousand years.
Hall of Doors
The ability to see and use doors that lead into the hall of doors. It is just as the name would imply, a virtually infinite hallway with a multitude of doors to many places in and out of the city. This is technically something any human with the right mentality could access, but the only user in the city at this moment is Minato. Though the number of doors in the city indicate that there were users in the city before Minato's arrival.
A user of the Doors is able to bring others through the hallway as well, most will find themselves unable to perceive the doors afterwards; A few however may gain the ability to use the doors themselves. It is impossible for even Minato to perceive the doors during high tension scenes like battles.
A Door user is able to create new doors through exertion of will, but once created the door can never be destroyed, even by the one who created it. Also it should be understood that one must actually physically go to a place if they wish create a Door there.
After arriving in the Nexus, all of the doors leading to anywhere outside of it vanished.
Equipment:
Holy Grail Lucifer
The Holy Grail, forged of the Jewels taken from the Crown of the Fallen Angel Lucifer. Used as a weapon, the divine light within the grail forms into a blade by the user's will. Though it is not primarily a weapon by nature, it should not be underestimated. As a divine relic it exceeds even supreme holy objects such as Lancea Longini or Excalibur, though as a weapon it is exceeded in killing ability by the god killing lance, and is not suited to comparison against the anti fortress Excalibur.
Armor of Light
A set of pentacle engraved armor made from divine light. Provides a large bonus to both physical and magic resistance as well as boosting END. It is generally invisible but Minato can choose to reveal it.
Shoes of Light
A pair of pentacle engraved shoes made from divine light. Provides a large bonus to evasion as well as boosting SPD and AGI. It is generally invisible but Minato can choose to reveal it.
Mp3 Player
A supreme divine relic that grants the user an authority - changing the BGM...
But really, it's just an mp3 player, a really cool one with custom headphones Fuuka made.
Evoker
The Evoker is a gun-esque item that functions as a summoning medium for Minato to invoke and control his Persona. While it is not strictly necessary in the nexus, he still uses it.
Inventory
Minato keeps a number of the more useful items that he acquired, such as traesto gems and medical powder, on him just in case he finds need of them.
The Dorm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3KKYk5vxKI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3KKYk5vxKI)
Changes from the original in the video:
On the right wall of the dining area on the first floor is a door leading to a fairly large kitchen.
The door in the indented section of the back of the first floor dining area leads to the basement... And by basement I mean underground time space labyrinth, the lower levels of which hold a large percentage of the shadows in the nexus.
The second and third floor hallways get longer and add rooms based on the number of occupants.
There is a red door on the back wall on the second floor entry that leads to a sort of armory where Minato stored all the weapons and armor he has collected.
There is a yellow door on the back wall of the third floor entry that leads to a treasure room where Minato keeps all the gold, jewels, treasures, and artifacts he has accumulated.
A person who signs the golden book at the front desk will be considered a permanent resident and will find their name on a door on the appropriate floor. The door will only open for the person whose name is on the door, unless the person gives someone else permission to enter. The room of a permanent resident is automatically altered to suit the owner's needs and desires, and can even have doors to or be combined with other rooms if both residents want such.
Origin:
The Journey
The Protagonist in Persona 3 is first seen departing for the Dorm in Port Island. During that time, he experiences the Dark Hour, and is confused upon the sudden change of the surroundings and the sudden halt of his earphones functioning, though he takes the hour in stride, seemingly unaffected. Upon reaching the dorm, he encounters a child, who promptly gives him a contract to sign, providing players the opportunity to name him. The protagonist transfers to Gekkoukan High School on the next day. His invitation to study as a transfer student is later revealed that due to his capability to adapt to the Dark Hour, he was moved to the co-ed dorm so his potential can be monitored.
During a full moon, one of the Shadows attacks, causing the protagonist to awaken his initial Persona, Orpheus. The summoning sequence, however, was interrupted as Thanatos bursts forth from Orpheus' head, tearing apart Orpheus and slaying the Shadows. After dispatching the remaining Shadows, the protagonist fainted and was taken to the hospital. While unconscious, he awakens in the Velvet Room, where he learns about his abilities. The protagonist later learns about the nature of the Shadows and the existence of SEES, and eventually joins SEES. Out of all characters to appear Persona 3, the protagonist is the only character throughout the game with access to the Wild Card ability.
The protagonist's past is later revealed after Aigis' memories are restored. In the year 1999, when Death escaped the Kirijo group, Aigis was dispatched and was in hot pursuit of the Shadow. It is during Aigis' confrontation with Death, during the Dark Hour, that the protagonist's parents died. Presumably, the protagonist survives due to his potential allowing him to be active during the Dark Hour. Aigis, knowing that she cannot defeat Death, seals a portion of Death inside the protagonist, thus amplifying the protagonist's capabilities of summoning multiple Persona.
In SEES' final confrontation with Nyx, the bonds he has forged with SEES and his other friends give him the power to fight the sorrow, depression, and apathy of humankind, which were what drew Nyx to Earth, by letting him create the final arcana, the Universe Arcana with the help of Igor. With the power of the The Universe, and the cheering on of his comrades he ascends to Nyx' true body, the moon, to combat Nyx itself in a one-on-one battle. After being downed and uplifted multiple times by the SEES members' prayers and Nyx's attacks, he eventually reaches his full potential and performs the Great Seal to miraculously seal Nyx.
The protagonist clings to life for one month after fighting Nyx. He, unlike the others, retains his memories regarding the Dark Hour and Nyx in order to keep the promise he made to meet his friends on Graduation Day. Once his oath was fulfilled, he "falls asleep" in Aigis' lap, smiling.
The Answer
In the playable epilogue of Persona 3 FES, titled "Episode Aegis" in Japan and "The Answer" in the localization, it is revealed that the Protagonist died the day after his sleep, leading to the members of SEES' confusion regarding his cause of death, as the doctor cannot find any unusual symptoms before his death.
After the defeat of Nyx and the death of the Protagonist, Aigis was the one who kept his Evoker, upon witnessing the Abyss of Time, the remaining members of SEES encounter a recurring silhouette resembling the Protagonist. However, whenever they come into contact, the silhouette flees.
It is not until venturing into the deepest area of the Abyss of Time, that the silhouette is revealed to be a shadow resembling the protagonist's appearance. It manifests through the negative emotion and urge of seeing the protagonist one more time deep within the members of SEES. Making its entrance, the shadow challenges SEES, copying their Persona (all of which are colored with a grayish tint) except Psyche and Juno, retaining the Wild Card ability, and several attacks of the protagonist.
Protagonist becomes the Great Seal
The "real" protagonist is later seen in the past, where he seals Nyx. In order to seal Nyx, the protagonist sacrificed his life to become the Great Seal. He was, however, capable of retaining his consciousness long enough to fulfill his oath between the members of SEES to meet again on Graduation Day. The protagonist is shown as a statue, crucified and bound to the door between Nyx and humanity. It is later revealed that Nyx was only awakened because Erebus, a grand being manifested from humanity's grief and negative emotions, was reaching out to Nyx to bring the Fall. The protagonist wasn't trying to seal Nyx, he was acting as a barrier between Nyx and Erebus. After defeating Erebus and realizing the protagonist's purpose, the remaining members of SEES swore to help him bear the burden by making the most out of their own lives.
The END
During the long period of time that he spent as the great seal, Minato would occasionally regain awareness; Sometimes these would only last for only a few minutes, sometimes they would go on for days. Minato has no way of telling how long that lasted, but just the times he was aware seemed to have added up to much longer than he had been alive before.
When he finally woke as a living being once more, many centuries had passed, his loved ones had all passed from living memory. Even Aigis, who had weathered the ages awaiting him, shut down for the last time shortly after she and Elizabeth woke him. He had awoken to an age where he was no longer needed; Humanity had finally overcome it's wish for death.
The Nexus
It was a short and rather uneventful period after his awakening before Minato one day woke up in his old bed, in his old room, in his old dorm, in an entirely new city. A few days later while exploring Minato ran afoul of a rampaging feral dragon. After defeating it and nearly dying in the process, he was approached by an somewhat old man introducing himself as Aien Caebel; The City Council representative for Nexus City District 11, the district Minato's dorm landed in. Aien invited Minato to his home and told him of his dream, to transform District 11 into a place where beings of all shapes and sizes, both strong and weak, could live together safely and in peace. Minato for his part, had nothing better to do, plus he liked the idea; So when Aien asked him to help, Minato agreed.
In the five years that followed Minato explored a large portion of the city, fulfilled requests both mundane and supernatural in nature, and worked with Aien to create that safe haven. In the beginning it was only a small area, but as the reputations of both Minato and the safe haven grew, many beings came to see and participate; Some hoping to finally have a safe place, others hoping to preserve that for others. Over time, with the participation of the many beings (even ordinary humans) from within who had been inspired to join in and from outside who had come to fight for a chance at peace, the haven grew; By the end of the third year the haven had grown to fill the entire district. From there things grew better within, but the chaos outside became a periodic issue as things attempted to encroach on the district.
Over the course of those five years, Minato participated in a great number of battles; Fighting dragons, though none were as strong as the first; Angels and Demons; A hero or two, though neither were of truly mythical status; and Monsters (Read "lots of werewolves"). At one point he even battled a god, though said event was quite unlike a normal battle, and Minato refuses to speak of what happened to this day. Because of this, the district, and the sheer number of requests he has taken; Minato has developed something of a formidable reputation and it is thought by some, quite innacurately, that there is no request he cannot fulfill. Aien has taken every opportunity to whip up and inflate that reputation contributing greatly to just how formidable it has become.
Weakness: Public Speaking, Elevator Attendants, Megidolaon, Others (Depending on the Active Persona)
Likes: Social links, Music, Pharos, Coffee with hot sauce, The Dorm, Cooking Large Meals, Eating Large Meals, Teamwork
Dislikes: Erebus, Reversals, Nihilism
NotesThis is not god mode, I did not give him the Omnipotent orb.
I will be editing this as I play to add better descriptions for attacks, indicate changes in the Persona lineup ECT.
This profile took five days to make.
Added a few edits for 2.0
More edits; Changed stats, fixed descriptions, added spell scaling, ect.
Last major round of edits; Added all Inherent attributes, finished background.
Race: Ascended HumanBecoming a statue/seal does not make you into some kind of ascended human, and there is literally not a single thing to make you think so inside P3.
Age: 17 (Physically - Aging has Ceased)
Base StatsWrite the character's stats please thank you. This right here is the remainder of an incomplete sheet.
On the Servant Scale
Strength: X
Agility: X
Speed: X
Endurance: X
Mana: X
Luck: X
Magic Resistance:It's not classic "magic resistance," though. He does resist elements because equipment and shit, but that's not "magic" resistance, that's more like SMT-style elemental resistance.
The equipment grants strong resistances to everything, further enhanced by the persona though the effect Varies according to the one currently equipped.
General Magic RankingRagnarok does a lot of damage, sure, but is a tiny fart of fire. It's not EX. EX would break the limit on damage solely because too stronk. EX is Enuma Elish, which, at 2% of its full power is stronger than excalibur.
Agi- C
Maragi- D
Agilao- A
Maragilao- B
Agidyne- A++
Maragidyne- A+
Ragnarok- EX
The user's base stats are equal to the equipped Persona's listed stats. The evoked Persona has double the listed stats.
The evoked Persona has double the listed stats.To quote my source, "There is literally no reason for that."
ALL THE PERSONA STATSWe use a scale of E to A. Not numbers. And no, they don't directly translate into nasuverse, so no, they don't all have A+ in everything.
ABOUT ALL PERSONA
Armageddon>Unstoppable wave of destruction
The End, ultimate power which obliterates all in it's path. The form it takes varies according to the user's will. Armageddon reveals the last Truth, that in the end all things will become as nothing once more. The true form of this spell is an unstoppable wave of destruction which leaves only the azure star of mourning to witness what remains. The immense strain involved in using this Spell in particular makes more than a single use per day entirely impossible.
Charm- A+Charisma's been explicitly told to NOT be put on sheets. This stat? This is charisma under another name.
A measure of ones attractiveness, both in speech and appearance. At this level the effect can be mistaken for a magical compulsion. Grants a bonus to persuasion, and at ranks higher than B also provides a bonus to Charisma.
Courage- A+
The measure of ones ability to overcome fear and face dangers to ones life.
At this level the impossible is made possible through sheer force of will, one can only be called a badass; Even the eldritch horror that is Fuuka's cooking can be faced without flinching.
Academics- A+Same here, show, don't tell.
A measure of the knowledge one has accumulated. Higher ranks allow for broader and deeper knowledge, as well as understanding of more obscure subjects. At this level one can be called a genius whose knowledge has exceeded what can be gained merely through study, possessing a deep understanding in a large number of subjects.
Mind of the UniversePersonas are a reflection of your psyche, if anything, someone looking in would just see a kind of mess. Invasion sure would be like fighting a small army, but looking in wouldn't be too bad.
The presence of a vast number of Persona has the side effect of rendering mental intrusion by beings with minds less vast than an elder god unwise...
Dark Moment...This entire idea comes out of absolutely nowhere.
Only at night once per night, Minato is able to disrupt the flow of time momentarily to produce a lag in local space time. Such a thing is entirely useless in most cases, but it may be able to disrupt certain types of effects...
Were Minato willing this skill could in theory be used to institute a Dark Hour, but the energy requirement for such a feat would be beyond astronomical, it is not an amount that could be gathered on one's own even with a thousand years.
Hall of DoorsElf already noped this. It's stupid, and is an addition to nexus (her baby) made without her consent or even consultation.
The ability to see and use doors that lead into the hall of doors. It is just as the name would imply, a virtually infinite hallway with a multitude of doors to many places in and out of the city. This is technically something any human with the right mentality could access, but the only user in the city at this moment is Minato. Though the number of doors in the city indicate that there were users in the city before Minato's arrival.
A user of the Doors is able to bring others through the hallway as well, most will find themselves unable to perceive the doors afterwards; A few however may gain the ability to use the doors themselves. It is impossible for even Minato to perceive the doors during high tension scenes like battles.
A Door user is able to create new doors through exertion of will, but once created the door can never be destroyed, even by the one who created it. Also it should be understood that one must actually physically go to a place if they wish create a Door there.
After arriving in the Nexus, all of the doors leading to anywhere outside of it vanished.
InventoryYou know when I told you to add details?
Minato keeps a number of the more useful items that he acquired, such as traesto gems and medical powder, on him just in case he finds need of them.
There is a red door on the back wall on the second floor entry that leads to a sort of armory where Minato stored all the weapons and armor he has collected.If this wasn't in the original dorm, and he's been a statue for so long, why are they there apart from "MUH SPECIALIZED BOSS SETUPS"?
There is a yellow door on the back wall of the third floor entry that leads to a treasure room where Minato keeps all the gold, jewels, treasures, and artifacts he has accumulated.If this wasn't in the original dorm, and he's been a statue for so long, why is all his shit intact and exactly where he needs it?
The door in the indented section of the back of the first floor dining area leads to the basement... And by basement I mean underground time space labyrinth, the lower levels of which hold a large percentage of the shadows in the nexus.Usually when you add a dungeon to someone else's RP setting, you ask permission.
It was a short and rather uneventful period after his awakening before Minato one day woke up in his old bed, in his old room, in his old dorm, in an entirely new city.With all his accumulated gear and money and everything. Right.
A few days later while exploring Minato ran afoul of a rampaging feral dragon. After defeating itThis reminds me of squirrel girl, that one marvel hero who'd defeat Galactus in a fistfight offscreen.
In the five years that followed Minato explored a large portion of the city, fulfilled requests both mundane and supernatural in nature, and worked with Aien to create that safe haven. In the beginning it was only a small area, but as the reputations of both Minato and the safe haven grew, many beings came to see and participate; Some hoping to finally have a safe place, others hoping to preserve that for others. Over time, with the participation of the many beings (even ordinary humans) from within who had been inspired to join in and from outside who had come to fight for a chance at peace, the haven grew; By the end of the third year the haven had grown to fill the entire district. From there things grew better within, but the chaos outside became a periodic issue as things attempted to encroach on the district.HE CAME TO US, A SAVIOR but in backstory only.
Over the course of those five years, Minato participated in a great number of battles; Fighting dragons, though none were as strong as the first; Angels and Demons; A hero or two, though neither were of truly mythical status; and Monsters (Read "lots of werewolves"). At one point he even battled a god, though said event was quite unlike a normal battle, and Minato refuses to speak of what happened to this day. Because of this, the district, and the sheer number of requests he has taken; Minato has developed something of a formidable reputation and it is thought by some, quite innacurately, that there is no request he cannot fulfill. Aien has taken every opportunity to whip up and inflate that reputation contributing greatly to just how formidable it has become.
Weakness: Public Speaking,What was all that nonsense about charm and courage, then?
I was too attached to it, my first character in the first RP I ever got into.Your first RP? Yeah, I know what other RPs you've been in, Emiya Kuro.
Your first RP? Yeah, I know what other RPs you've been in, Emiya Kuro.
This ain't your first RP, this ain't your first character.
Doing posts now, but aren't Pariah and Mercer on the street in front of the compound? Not on the roof?
Yes.
The other example being a Rae!Rin post being, and I quote "She was literally using rin to live out a fantasy about clinging to lancers abs".I... really don't get what you're talking about with this. For fuck sakes, it's snowing and it's cold. You're going to try and get close to the warm thing that is warm. Especially when it's the only warm thing they're close to. Plus it's a date anyway. But the point of that whole thing was, "jesus fuck it's cold, I didn't think about it getting cold, let's get close to the warm guy who's carrying me."
Ok, that particular part I should have thought through more carefully. But you're implying that every damn post I've made with Rin is OOC.
FOR FUCK SAKES, YOU SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS SHIT UP TO ME! I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR GOD DAMN FEEDBACK CONSTANTLY! DON'T PULL THIS SHIT AFTER I'VE BEEN ASKING TO AN ANNOYING DEGREE IF I'VE BEEN DOING ANYTHING WRONG!
Basically, I respect your decision to leave. But you're being a shitlord about it, which does bother me.
A warning for a site we are both about to leave? Oh no please dont!Well, after discussing this with the other mods (excepting Alice, as she stated above), we've decided to take you on your offer.
Kaiza I knew you were retarded but come the fuck on.
Besides, I'm not gonna sit here and take shit because I have an opinion. So kindly ban me or piss off.
Ah, that's kind-of a pain in the ass, because I have 5 planned, and don't really want to drop any of them....Lemme guess happy happy family of love.
Ah, that's kind-of a pain in the ass, because I have 5 planned, and don't really want to drop any of them....Lemme guess happy happy family of love.
Please, try and do something else. If you want that sakura family shit, just write a fanfic for god sakes.
Without Arch's harsh way of saying it perhaps trying something fresh might be good for you? I mean sure Downy is a cool character and all but after using him over and over again even he begins to wear his welcome out a bit. Why not try that yourself?
Lowered number of max characters per player, a more central plot with an actual antagonist likely managed by the GM, and a more abstract scale for character attributes that doesn't rely on hard numbers.
If 3.0 gets added I would just like to make the recommendation that there would be a power cap of sorts, cause how I saw it evolve was that there were a group of just really powerful characters, like Gil, Karna, Phoenix, etc, all of which were powerful and killed tension cause they could just kinda deal with it.
So if someone wants to do a powerful character because they personality is interesting have them make it so because of the nexus their powers are throttled and they can't use all of it.
No, Gilgamesh and Karna are almost certantly going to be banned, they're too op.
I would say keep the OP characters but smite them if they dare abuse it. Nexus Counter Force.
Just no Blue magic mind fuckery.I'm definitely not that much of a jerkass, Knick. =P
Or blue/black.
Or Bolas. Especially not bolas.
Red/Green stronk.You seem to be forgetting that Gruul smashes *and* burns.
Gruul smash.
4 character limit(not including villians)
I'm having deja vu
Cool, planning on going rather low teir people this time.Nice. :)
Or rather people that suffer crippling overspecialization, whose abilities might seem strong in theory but in practice are not really all that amazing.
Is the character sheet format staying the same save for some variation in stats?Stats are going to be more abstract from what I understand. YOLF has a doc on the new sheet format (or at least I think it's YOLF), so I imagine that'll be getting posted once 2.0 gets archived and 3.0's stuff gets put up.
If everything goes well, I should have things up this weekend.
Now, to be fair, what is the max amount of characters we should have?
Right now I'm thinking of 4 + one killiable Antagonist (however only a few members will get to play villains/antagonists).
I don't want a cluster fuck of characters that get abandoned or people getting stressed out because they can't handle them all.
If everything goes well, I should have things up this weekend.Hmm, has the rule changed for Tom then? Is he still one of my four/five normal characters because of the whole "can be redeemed" thing, or is he in the antagonist slot? I'm cool with it either way, I'm just asking for clarification purposes so I know whether I have an extra slot or not.
Now, to be fair, what is the max amount of characters we should have?
Right now I'm thinking of 4 + one killiable Antagonist (however only a few members will get to play villains/antagonists).
I don't want a cluster fuck of characters that get abandoned or people getting stressed out because they can't handle them all.
Well, I have a significant problem with anything less than five right now, because I have five characters and I can't easily drop any of them (Kiyoshi and Rider are the only two I have that I can send in right away, and Rider on her own wouldn't have much reason to do anything, plus I then can't justify sending in the rest later).
Hmm, has the rule changed for Tom then? Is he still one of my four/five normal characters because of the whole "can be redeemed" thing, or is he in the antagonist slot? I'm cool with it either way, I'm just asking for clarification purposes so I know whether I have an extra slot or not.
Since Tom's a special case because chances are he will be "redeemed" or move from "antagonist" to "Pain in the ass friendemy" I'll say he'll be one of your four.Ahh, gotcha, so no change then. That's fine. :) Well, that gives me motivation to make a more straight up villain then. :P Though hmm... do you think it'd be better to wait until Tom gets some form of redemption to roll a character for that, so I don't get overwhelmed, or go hog wild with it?
The + Antagonist can be killed while the four playable characters can only be killed if you allow it.
Significant problem is basically not being able to "roleplay" that "happy family" in whole set.
Well, I have a significant problem with anything less than five right now, because I have five characters and I can't easily drop any of them (Kiyoshi and Rider are the only two I have that I can send in right away, and Rider on her own wouldn't have much reason to do anything, plus I then can't justify sending in the rest later).
What about Rider, Kiyoshi, Sakura and Shirou? You can still have Sakura with her happy family life without having to juggle a bunch of characters at the same time.
Honestly, like I've said several times already, I'd just give Kiyoshi the boot, he's slowed you down in the past.
Further, Kiyoshi and his shadow giant is the justification I have for sending Sakura, Shirou and Aoi into the Nexus when I'm ready to do so, so taking him out means I have no justification for getting my characters there.
Honestly, like I've said several times already, I'd just give Kiyoshi the boot, he's slowed you down in the past.
Yeah, but I've already explained why that's an issue for me. Kiyoshi and Rider are the only two characters I can send in immediately, and I also need Kiyoshi to justify how the others get there. Plus, Rider on her own doesn't work, because she has little interest in doing much of anything and, further, sending her in with Sakura limits the possibility of sex scenes with her somewhat (because she won't need prana then). So, if I drop Kiyoshi, it causes me problems with setting my characters up to arrive and setting other things up.
You can also spread your wings a bit Mike and try and do some different things.
Or you can do something interesting like making Rider your 'antagonist' but in the sense that she is eating people to maintain herself to protect Kiyoshi rather then crackle von baby eater.
It can even be something weird going on that even after you bring in Sakura something about the nexus or how Rider got there fucked up her ability to form a contract with someone, but by extension no longer needs an anchor, just prana to maintain herself.
It could be a good source of conflict and character development.
QuoteFurther, Kiyoshi and his shadow giant is the justification I have for sending Sakura, Shirou and Aoi into the Nexus when I'm ready to do so, so taking him out means I have no justification for getting my characters there.
Have you perhaps considered the option of making Kiyoshi your "antagonist" submission, perhaps in the sense as an unwitting/unknowing one?
His power already sounds like the sort of thing that can drive that sort of character-specific sub-plot down its own direction, and lord knows that a literal child "villain" (here used loosely b/c I figure you're touchy on literalism) done reasonably well can provide for a tripped out kind of roleplaying experience w/ regards to how others end up interacting w/ him.
Honestly, like I've said several times already, I'd just give Kiyoshi the boot, he's slowed you down in the past.
Yeah, but I've already explained why that's an issue for me. Kiyoshi and Rider are the only two characters I can send in immediately, and I also need Kiyoshi to justify how the others get there. Plus, Rider on her own doesn't work, because she has little interest in doing much of anything and, further, sending her in with Sakura limits the possibility of sex scenes with her somewhat (because she won't need prana then). So, if I drop Kiyoshi, it causes me problems with setting my characters up to arrive and setting other things up.
Then why not drop Shirou?
Hmm... Hang on, I just remembered. Sheets are in a new format so we have to redo sheets anyway. So would it matter if you had to make new sheets, Mike? Because you're going to have to do it anyway. No one would be ready to go anyway, because you have to make a new sheet regardless.
No, because his death would utterly destroy Sakura, and if I include him as an antagonist someone like Arch will kill him.
One question, how many days per week you work? Cause I'm capable of submitting sheets in spite of working three days per week, attending uni in weekends one or two times per month, preparing to sessions.
QuoteNo, because his death would utterly destroy Sakura, and if I include him as an antagonist someone like Arch will kill him.
Depending on what stuff he would do, my Hunter could intervene since he already killed a little kid in backstory (a vampire though, but his Integrity eroded enough that all bets are off if the supernatural child is on rampage killing people, unwittingly or not).
Mike, the only damn reason the Strix even showed up was because you were bitching about not having anyone to interact with.
If you're that fucking attatched to the kid, you can drop Shirou. Seriously Mike, the biggest problem you have is with your happy family, you end up creating a bubble where you really don't give others room for interaction with them.
Your happy family does not contribute in any way since they don't have any meaningful issues and you refuse to provide tension and conflict involving them.
There is no wrong with mundane aspects of life, Mordred has a job and little place she carved out for herself in Nexus, but even if there won't be any supernatural shenanigans (which 0 % possible) involving her, she still takes meds and goes to a therapist.
>Horribly grimdark
For my AU Mordred her whole life embodies the theme of a beautiful madness of Changeling: The Lost. And coming to terms with what happened during her Durance.
Arguably if there is a grimdark in my character rooster, Dr. Erhart Teichmann suffered most. So many things slipped through his hands, no matter what methods he used.
And mine don't?
Maiku, instead of just RPing, you might as well just write Fanfiction for your happy family.This. Otherwise you'll run into the same issues you did before, namely Kiyoshi being annoying and holding us off from actually wanting to interact with him or Rider. You create a bubble around your characters that stops us from doing anything with them, because they need to be this perfect fucking family.
Fuck, since when going to a therapist is not dealing with issues?
Or post at CE 3.0 only to yourself. Because hide yo kid, hide yo waifu, Arch-Magos is on prowl.
Maiku, instead of just RPing, you might as well just write Fanfiction for your happy family.This. Otherwise you'll run into the same issues you did before, namely Kiyoshi being annoying and holding us off from actually wanting to interact with him or Rider.
You create a bubble around your characters that stops us from doing anything with them, because they need to be this perfect fucking family.
Announcement:
As antagonist I'm bringing Changeling version of Sakura Matou.
She is of Darkling Seeming, with dual Kith merit (Tunnelgrub/Leechfinger). She is a Loyalist to her Keeper and tries to establish connection between Nexus and its Arcadian Realm. Oh, and she drains people's lifeforce to bring forth him.
On another hand, she will treat your Sakura as her Fetch, I think.
I don't know what a "Fetch" is, so....
I don't know what a "Fetch" is, so....
Basically, a false person put there by fae to hide the abduction of the Changeling.
For that matter, Mike, character death is something you learn to deal with.
The problem is with you there's only one way to have this work which is allowing nothing at all to test your characters. Anything they could conceiveably fail at, you object to.
Hmm, yeah, I looked it up.
Well, Kat is free to treat her as such if he wants, but she's not. She won't have any of the abilities or traits associated with such. Further, he is not killing her, or any of her family.
QuoteHmm, yeah, I looked it up.
Well, Kat is free to treat her as such if he wants, but she's not. She won't have any of the abilities or traits associated with such. Further, he is not killing her, or any of her family.
Lol, as a Loyalist she would only wonder if she could be the Keeper magnet as Fetches tend to be ones. No reason to kill her.
How harvesting emotions from people would look like?
I mean, how harvesting emotions from people to generate Glamour would look like, let's say, from the POV of your characters?
Mordred's Summer Court's emotion is Wrath. She will likely feel affinity for hotheaded people, though she can feed on other emotions, just feeding on Wrath is more efficient.
Do you play Rin?
Elf's already shipping Mordred with Lancelot.
Elf's already shipping Mordred with Lancelot.
Elf's already shipping Mordred with Lancelot.
Well, yeah, but that's not a matter of feeding, though.
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