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Type Moon => Fanfiction => Topic started by: Cherry Lover on June 05, 2013, 11:24:02 PM

Title: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on June 05, 2013, 11:24:02 PM
This thread is for posting any fics that are a cross-over between TM and any other fandom.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on June 05, 2013, 11:38:00 PM
Glad this was put in here.

I'd like to suggest a crossover idea for the Fate franchise and Nanoha. Bare with me, I'm not going about it the same way that others have done it so far, instead having Sakura be adopted as the heir to the Yagami magus clan.

Of course, I'd need someone to write the darker side of things, like what happens during the events of Fate/Zero with the removal of Kariya from the Master selection list (due to being allowed to take care of Sakura as an uncle).
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on June 06, 2013, 12:01:13 AM
Glad this was put in here.

Well, in general there is no reason why other people shouldn't make threads like this.

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I'd like to suggest a crossover idea for the Fate franchise and Nanoha. Bare with me, I'm not going about it the same way that others have done it so far, instead having Sakura be adopted as the heir to the Yagami magus clan.

Who are the "Yagami"?

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Of course, I'd need someone to write the darker side of things, like what happens during the events of Fate/Zero with the removal of Kariya from the Master selection list (due to being allowed to take care of Sakura as an uncle).

Hmm, what do you mean?

But, anyway, removing Kariya as a master would mean Byakuya would take over. How things changed from there isn't certain, although you would need to work out how to rescue Rin from Caster without Kariya's involvement.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on June 06, 2013, 02:36:10 AM
*ahem* for those not in the know, Hayate Yagami is the only one left in her biological family. She's technically an orphan in the Nanoha franchise, but I made up parents for her for the sake of the story (as well as a fake background story).

About Kariya and Byakuya switching places, Zouken can't do that. He believes that Byakuya's line is devoid of Circuits, so he has to trick someone else into getting the Grail for him....

...namely Makihisa Tohno from the Tsukihime franchise.

Besides, a different change involves who summons Caster, namely Ciel (around the time after she survives Roa leaving her body). No, wrong Caster in this war, it's not Bluebeard.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on June 06, 2013, 05:12:47 PM
Unfortunately the story is already convoluted and impossible  ciel sees her magic as a bastardization of her spirit and tohno would never work with zouken, he would send the ultra killer what's his name to murder zouken
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on June 06, 2013, 05:26:42 PM
*ahem* for those not in the know, Hayate Yagami is the only one left in her biological family. She's technically an orphan in the Nanoha franchise, but I made up parents for her for the sake of the story (as well as a fake background story).

Hmm, I see.

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About Kariya and Byakuya switching places, Zouken can't do that. He believes that Byakuya's line is devoid of Circuits, so he has to trick someone else into getting the Grail for him....

...namely Makihisa Tohno from the Tsukihime franchise.

Well, canonically had Kariya not fought Zouken would have roped Byakuya into it, not that he expected anything much from him.

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Besides, a different change involves who summons Caster, namely Ciel (around the time after she survives Roa leaving her body). No, wrong Caster in this war, it's not Bluebeard.

Hmm, I see.

That would change a lot.

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ciel sees her magic as a bastardization of her spirit

She doesn't need to do magic to summon a servant, though. It's quite possible to do so entirely by accident....

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and tohno would never work with zouken, he would send the ultra killer what's his name to murder zouken

I don't see why he would have so much of an objection to working for Zouken, although I doubt Zouken would be able to trick him.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on June 07, 2013, 06:14:36 PM
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She doesn't need to do magic to summon a servant, though. It's quite possible to do so entirely by accident....

shirou's accident was because he was using magic at the time, ciel flat out doesn't use magic so that isn't an option.

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I don't see why he would have so much of an objection to working for Zouken, although I doubt Zouken would be able to trick him.

he doesn't work for anyone, much less a guy like zouken.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on June 08, 2013, 12:34:16 PM
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She doesn't need to do magic to summon a servant, though. It's quite possible to do so entirely by accident....

shirou's accident was because he was using magic at the time, ciel flat out doesn't use magic so that isn't an option.

I don't think that's true. It was because he happened to walk into the maglc circle Kiritsugu made for Iri.

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I don't see why he would have so much of an objection to working for Zouken, although I doubt Zouken would be able to trick him.

he doesn't work for anyone, much less a guy like zouken.

Ah, OK.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on June 09, 2013, 06:37:53 PM
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I don't think that's true. It was because he happened to walk into the maglc circle Kiritsugu made for Iri.

his circuits were open though, ciel doesn't flip the switch.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on June 09, 2013, 07:24:08 PM
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I don't think that's true. It was because he happened to walk into the maglc circle Kiritsugu made for Iri.

his circuits were open though, ciel doesn't flip the switch.

Possibly, but Ryunnosuke's weren't....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on June 21, 2013, 01:41:41 AM
I see, well still I don't see ciel rolling with the idea
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on June 21, 2013, 01:46:14 AM
I see, well still I don't see ciel rolling with the idea

Well, she could just not get a choice....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on June 21, 2013, 01:49:49 AM
She could just use all her command seals and knowing ciel she would given that she has no reason to want the grail
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on June 21, 2013, 01:54:52 AM
She could just use all her command seals and knowing ciel she would given that she has no reason to want the grail

Well, I'd have thought that dealing with all the idiot magi and the potential danger they pose would be reason enough to fight....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on June 21, 2013, 01:56:55 AM
No, ciel's mo is roa, magi mean nothing to her
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on June 21, 2013, 01:59:59 AM
No, ciel's mo is roa, magi mean nothing to her

Well, she is still part of the Church, her job is to protect people....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on June 21, 2013, 02:04:19 AM
Not true
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on June 21, 2013, 02:14:01 AM
Well, I don't really know enough Tsuki to continue arguing this....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on June 21, 2013, 03:01:42 PM
The church is not concerned with people as a whole that is just an image thing
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Elf on July 07, 2013, 04:03:14 AM
Now here's a crossover idea.

FSN/Angel: The Series and maybe Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

A client of Wolfram and Hart's wants a Servant of absolute power so they can do something. Maybe get vengeance or they just want to have a mystical Weapon of Mass destruction at their command. They're a MacGuffin.

Anyway, with Wolfram and Hart's resources they pull a Servant from another dimension. Just happens to be Gilgamesh.

Shit goes down really fast and Gil, well, Gil's pissed and he hates the world as he sees it now. I mean, look at L.A. it is kind of a pit, especially Angel's version of it. So he's going to wipe out all the useless people and start anew.

Of course Angel really doesn't want that happening. However, one doesn't stop Gilgamesh when he's in full, "Mongrels, women and children!" mode. In fact, the Angel Investigations team get their asses handed to them. Gil doesn't kill them though; he finds Angel fascinating because - we'll set this in early season three before Connor was born - Angel's unique. He's the only vampire with a soul, and that gets him a pass. (May almost get him captured because Gil might think he's a "treasure".)

Wolfram and Hart is a mess because Gil went all "Mongrels, women and children!" on their L.A. offices. They know they have a problem. The Fang Gang knows that Gil is severely dangerous. So they sort of join forces to stop Gil.

The only way to do that is to summon something else on his power level. Angel doesn't trust Wolfram and Hart because he's pretty sure they'll stab him in the back as soon as Gil's stopped. He demands "control" of the Servant they summon.

The oracles at Wolfram and Hart know of someone who is capable of doing this, but the chances of him winning are slim because well, Gil. Angel shrugs, says something like, "Well, I always like to root for the underdog. Let's do this."

And EMIYA is now the newest member of the Fang Gang.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Alice on July 07, 2013, 11:45:40 AM
This sounds interesting. :) Angel and Archer bickering with each other would be fantastic. XD

...Also, I wonder how they handle life insurance over at W&H, especially given stuff happening in their firms like the Beast murderating pretty much the entire LA branch. ^_^"
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Elf on July 07, 2013, 04:43:34 PM
This sounds interesting. :) Angel and Archer bickering with each other would be fantastic. XD

...Also, I wonder how they handle life insurance over at W&H, especially given stuff happening in their firms like the Beast murderating pretty much the entire LA branch. ^_^"

And they would bicker, especially if Angel was made Archer's master and Archer gets to see all of those lovely Angelus memories.  Of course, Angel gets to see Archer being a dumb ass.

You know, I bet W&H does have a fantastic life insurance plan.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Alice on July 07, 2013, 06:23:27 PM
And they would bicker, especially if Angel was made Archer's master and Archer gets to see all of those lovely Angelus memories.  Of course, Angel gets to see Archer being a dumb ass.
And it would be glorious. :3 Especially the bickering.

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You know, I bet W&H does have a fantastic life insurance plan.
I would certainly hope so- poor evil W&H lawyers, they die so frequently. And usually in horrible ways. Which is fitting in more ways than one really, but still. :3
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on July 20, 2013, 07:13:11 AM
So I decided some time ago this year that I'd try my hand at (hopefully) writing a successful Gundam metaverse/Nasuverse crossover. Thing is, I wanted to diverge greatly during Fate/Zero's point in time it's not even funny, especially since I haven't even finished watching it yet (I blame Fate/Zero Sense for that).

Something that I thought would be helpful for you all to know what parts of the Gundam metaverse I'm including would be a timeline. Therefore, I'll have the timeline posted here, even though I haven't figured out how to best put in the Nasuverse stuff at this point in time (I mean, where the timeline ends is where the Fourth Holy Grail War takes place, at least in accordance to the year it takes place in-story):

AD Calendar

2045 As petroleum resources run out, and environmental pollution worsens, a worldwide economic collapse ensues. The world's nations form economic blocs, and the planet becomes divided into a handful of major powers.

Ethnic and religious strife leads to a global conflict known as the Reconstruction Wars, while the Type S influenza virus spreads throughout the world. Disease and war produce massive casualties.

-25 Earth Federation is founded to replace defunct United Nations and announces the Space Development Program.

-8 April 1

George Glenn is born

-2 Space Colonization begins with early orbital habitats called Space Colonies completed.

UC calendar

U.C. 0001

With Earth's population at 9 billion, an ambitious space colonization program begins. The calendar is changed to the Universal Century era.

The Laplace Space Station is built in Earth's Orbit. Ricardo Marcenas is elected as the first prime minister of the Earth Federation. During the calendar change ceremony, terrorists use solar powered explosives to destroy the Laplace Space Station, killing all of the inhabitants. One survivor, Syam Vist, comes across the Universal Century charter (Laplace's Box), which dictates that the inhabitants of space should be given self-governance without interference from the Earth. Realizing that the words contain the power to destroy the Earth Federation, Syam takes the document with him into hiding and marries into the influential Vist Family.

Construction of Side 1 (L1) Bunch 1 (Shangri-La) space colony is completed.

The Colony Management Corporation (CMC) is established.

U.C. 0009

Zeon Zum Deikun and Anton Flanagan born.

Nuclear weapons are employed on the frontlines of central Asia, in the Kashmir region.

U.C. 0012

George Glenn is nominated for a Nobel Prize

U.C. 0013

George Glenn enlists in the military

U.C. 0015

The population of the space colonies reaches 1.5 million.

U.C. 0016

The Federation establishes the Frontier Settlement Transport Bureau (FSTB).

U.C. 0017

The Reconstruction Wars ends. The previous national orders have been radically changed, and new powers known as the Atlantic Federation, Eurasian Federation, Orb Union, Oceania Union, Equatorial Union, South Africa Union, African Community, United States of South America, Kingdom of Scandinavia, and Republic of East Asia have emerged and continue the Earth Federation as a joint effort for peace and stability in the aftermath of the Reconstruction Wars.

The Earth Federation formally adopts the Universal Century as the calendar system and announces a new space development program. Construction of the space station Yggdrasil, which had been interrupted by the global war, resumes at Lagrange Point 1.

U.C. 0018

The Space Colony plan begins in earnest, and a space industry arises to exploit the new frontier. Construction of the lunar city Copernicus begins.

George Glenn becomes an employee of the Atlantic Federation's Federal Aeronautics and Space Administration (FASA).
The Atlantic Federation establishes the Federal Space Force (FSF). The Eurasian Federation and Republic of East Asia soon follow suit.

Fearing a new arms race that could lead to war, the Earth Federation establishes the Earth Federation Security Council and commissions the creation of a military force under its control.

U.C. 0018.06

One-millionth “Spacenoid” baby born in Side 2 (L4).

Side 1 (L1) Bunch 1 (Shangri-La) selected as site of Olympiad LII, the first to be held off the Earth.

U.C. 0019

The space station Yggdrasil is completed.

U.C. 0020

The population of the space colonies reaches 5 million.

The Earth Federation Forces are created and is divided into separate land, sea, and air forces.

The lunar city of Copernicus is completed.

FASA launches a Jupiter exploration project and announces the development of the exploration ship Tsiolkovsky. George Glenn is to be the ship's chief designer, and the space station Yggdrasil will serve as the construction site.

U.C. 0023

The exploration ship Tsiolkovsky is completed.

George Glenn's Confession. As George Glenn departs for Jupiter aboard the Tsiolkovsky, he reveals the existence of Coordinators, and releases the necessary genetic engineering techniques onto the worldwide network. The world is thrown into chaos by these events.

In the name of environmental protection, the pressure group Blue Cosmos declares itself adamantly opposed to Coordinator technology.

U.C. 0024

An international conference is held to discuss the Coordinator controversy issue. A protocol on genetic modification is adopted, totally prohibiting the manipulation of human genes. Nonetheless, some wealthy individuals secretly have their children turned into Coordinators.

The Earth Federation rejects the genetic modification protocol and instead begins an investigation how George Glenn was modified, researching the Coordinator Process, and adopting limitation laws for public safety in all this, while looking into its positive effects for further Space Colonization as well as eventual Mars and later Jupiter Colonization.

U.C. 0025

A hospital in Chicago which has secretly been creating Coordinators is set ablaze. Blue Cosmos is rumored to be involved.

Construction of the Porta Panama mass driver begins in Central America.

The population of the space colonies reaches 50 million.

U.C. 0027

Von Braun, the second permanent lunar settlement, is established.

The Lunar Economic Development Authority (LEDA), an independent non-governmental organization, is established.

U.C. 0029

Construction of the Habilis mass driver begins on the shore of Lake Victoria.

U.C. 0030

The Federation privatizes the Frontier Settlement Transport Bureau (FSTB), which becomes the Space Transport Enterprise Group (STEP).

The population of the space colonies reaches 500 million.

The Tsiolkovsky reaches Jupiter and discovers the fossil known as Evidence 01. The world is again thrown into chaos, and FASA orders the Tsiolkovsky to bring back the fossil.

Siegel Clyne, a Coordinator, is secretly born in the Kingdom of Scandinavia.

U.C. 0031

Patrick Zala, a Coordinator, is secretly born in the Atlantic Federation.

U.C. 0034

The Federation again reorganizes the Space Transport Enterprise Group. An independent non-governmental organization, the Public Corporation of Space Transport (PCST), is established.

Construction of Side 2 (L4) Bunch 1 space colony is completed.

U.C. 0035

Construction of Side 3 (Munzo Province) begins in L2 using Minovsky “closed-type” design.

U.C. 0037

George Glenn returns from Jupiter with Evidence 01. The fossil is taken to the Zodiac research colony at Lagrange point 5 for detailed examination.

The Earth Federation Assembly claims authority over Evidence 01 and takes George Glenn into protective custody.

U.C. 0038

The world's religious authorities gather at the Palestine Conference, but are unable to reach any conclusions, and their influence begins to wane. Tolerance for Coordinators spreads throughout the world, and the first Coordinator boom begins.

Earth Federation research reveals several crippling flaws in the Coordinator Process, but notes that it is correctable. In response, the EF Limitation Laws on Coordinators are readdressed or removed. With this official sanctioning, many more join the boom.

Furthermore, the EF Assembly pushes forward with further Lunar development and expresses to jumpstart Mars Colonization.

The space industry heats up, and construction of numerous space colonies begins at Lagrange point 4.

The Orb Union begins construction of the Kaguya mass driver and the resource satellite Heliopolis.

U.C. 0039

The EFSF lifts its protective custody of George Glenn, and he begins examining Evidence 01 at Zodiac, though hidden in the shadows, EF SOF still remain.

The colony's extraterrestrial research organization expands into a huge research facility.

U.C. 0040

40% of the human population (roughly 5 billion people) have emigrated to space.

U.C. 0041

The orbit of asteroid 3 Juno is altered to send it to the Earth Sphere.

U.C. 0043

The Atlantic Federation establishes a lunar base in the Ptolemaeus Crater, drawing international condemnation, and unveils its first series of mobile armors. Earth's major powers begin a space arms race, and the Eurasian Federation begins the construction of Artemis.

In response to the sudden development of major bases in space, the Earth Federation converts several older colonies to Military Ports and begins to stripmine several asteroids for conversion into more Military Ports.

U.C. 0044

Half of the total human population now lives in space.

Ere-ism, the philosophy that the Earth is sacred and that humanity should leave it in peace, begins to spread.

The EFF develops the RTX-44 Main Battle Tank (MBT) land combat vehicle.

U.C. 0045

The asteroid Juno - later known as Luna II - is placed in Earth orbit to help with space colony construction.

The Minovsky Physics Society is founded at the Side 3 colony cluster.

U.C. 0046

The Zodiac research colony is further expanded. George Glenn announces his concept for a new type of Space Colony, and construction of these new colonies begins. This project is funded mainly by the Atlantic Federation, the Eurasian Federation, and the Republic of East Asia, and the new L5 colony cluster is to be managed by representatives of these sponsor nations, but the Earth Federation announces authority and though the nations would have access and be encouraged to support, actual matters would be left up to it.

Zeon Zum Deikun begins to propagate his philosophy of Contolism, a synthesis of Ere-ism (the philosophy that the Earth is sacred and that humanity should leave it in peace) and Side-ism (the belief the Sides should be treated as sovereign nations).

U.C. 0047

Development of the Minovsky-Ionesco fusion reactor begins.

U.C. 0048 ~

The first generation of Coordinators, born in secrecy, reach maturity and begin to excel in every scientific, artistic, and athletic field. The differences between Coordinators and Naturals thus become very clear, and critical voices emerge.

The Earth Federation begins to encourage Coordinators to move to Luna and Mars because of this, though sounding like exile, the EF research into Coordinators indicates that successful colonization of both can only be achieved with large numbers of Coordinators.

U.C. 0049

Marriages among first-generation Coordinators produce a purebred second generation, who soon prove to have inherited their parents' abilities.

Muruta Azrael is born in the Atlantic Federation.

U.C. 0050

The human population reaches 11 billion people, 9 billion of whom have emigrated to space. The following year, the Earth Federation halts construction of new space colonies, and the colonization program is effectively ended.

Degwin Sodo Zabi marries the much younger Naliss.

The Earth Federation offers semi-autonomous status to colonies on Luna and Mars that accept large numbers of Coordinators and offers Colonization bonuses to any Coordinator that moves to either.  Many accept the Earth Federation’s offer and cities like Von Braun and Copernicus begin to enjoy more independence from the Earth Federation as well as the nation states of Earth.

U.C. 0051

Patrick Zala and Siegel Clyne, participating in the construction of new colonies at Lagrange point 5, meet for the first time.

U.C. Alien Landholding Law passed.

U.C. 0052

Zeon Zum Deikun moves to Side 3 to spread his ideology. Deikun argues that humanity should complete its migration to space, and that the space colonies should be treated as independent nations.

The first ten space colonies (later known as Aprilius City) of the new L5 cluster are completed. These colonies, dubbed PLANTs, are intended to serve as large-scale production sites. The one thing they cannot make is food, which the PLANTs are strictly prohibited from producing and which must be imported entirely from Earth.

U.C. 0053

The estimated Coordinator population now exceeds a hundred million.

Anti-Coordinator organizations begin carrying out acts of terrorism against the PLANTs. Since they have no political autonomy and are thoroughly demilitarized, the PLANTs are unable to defend themselves, and the Coordinators working in the PLANTs become increasingly dissatisfied.

In response, the Earth Federation declares a crackdown on terrorist organizations and authorizes the PLANTS to build colonies for the purpose of gaining independent agriculture while also dispatching some military forces to the PLANTS.

The Nation States oppose the Earth Federation General Assembly’s decisions and threaten to withdraw, there is a public backlash against both sides over the PLANTS.

U.C. 0054

Al Da Flaga visits the Mendel colony at Lagrange Point 4. He commissions Dr. Ulen Hibiki, the chief researcher of GARM R&D, to create a clone of himself. Rau La Flaga is born later this year.

U.C. 0055

Scharnhorst Buch founds the Buch Konzern space salvage business.

U.C. 0058

Side 3 declares its independence, and the Republic of Zeon is established. A militia, the Colony Republican Guard, is
formed.

In response, the nation states mobilize their militaries, but the Earth Federation insteads grants the Lunar Colonies, considered very stable, independence and begins to work with both Mars and Space Colonies towards their own independence granting greater self-governing to Space Colonies.

The Zodiac Alliance is formed.

Certain interests become concern over the freer nature of the Lunar, Mars, and Space Colonies.

U.C. 0059

The Earth Federal Space Force (EFSF) is established as a separate service. The Federation does not adopt the Bardot Policy and will not apply economic sanctions against Side 3 (L2) or any colony.

Again, certain interests do not like what they see.

U.C. 0059.11.17

Casval Rem Deikun is born.

U.C. 0060

With tensions growing, the Federation Forces begin an arms build-up, organizing the Earth Federation Space Force and converting Luna II into a military base. The Federation launches the Year 60 Armament Reinforcement Plan, spearheaded by the EFF. Luna II is converted into the principal military base for the EFSF.

U.C. 0060

Bright Noa is born.

U.C. 0061

George Glenn is assassinated by a young Natural who is angry because he was not born as a Coordinator.

A PLANT Supreme Council is formed, made up of representatives from each of the PLANT cities.

The EFF fields the Type 61, sometimes referred to as the M61, twin-150mm MBT.

Mirai Yashima is born.

U.C. 0062

The Colony Republican Guard is elevated to the status of a full-fledged military, the Zeon Elite Force (ZEF).

Alien Exclusion Act passed much to the surprise of many.

U.C. 0062.04.01

Zeon Elite Force Academy (ZEFA) founded in Side 3 (L2).

U.C. 0062.09.12

Artesia Som Deikun is born.

U.C. 0062.11.21

Lalah Sune is born.

U.C. 0063.11.04

Amuro Ray is born.

U.C. 0064

The EFF conducts a naval review. The new spaceships developed as part of the Year 60 Armament Reinforcement Plan take centre stage.  Not long after, the Atlantic Federation Space Forces conducts its own review followed by Eurasia and then East Asia.

That same year, the AF Army adopts the M2 Linear Tank as its Primary Main Battle Tank.

Hayato Kobayashi and Fraw Bow are born.

U.C. 0065

The researchers of the Minovsky Physics Society observe a unique electromagnetic effect, which leads to the discovery of the Minovsky particle, but a hidden agent for an unknown nation though copies the research and disappears back to their home country.

A political schism between Zeon Zum Deikun and the influential Zabi family is made public.

U.C. 0067

The Earth Federation puts on hold a motion for colonial full autonomy as the feuding in Zeon becomes greater.

The Zodiac Alliance is restructured into a semi-professional militia and renamed the Zodiac Alliance of Freedom Treaty.

Construction plan for Side 7 (L3) announced.

Terrance Richman and Ullhammer T. Keynes demonstrate the Raiant R-7 prototype humanoid robot to Rob Torres.

Eurasia develops and fields the Lineynaya Bronetekhnika or LB-1 Linear Tank, but many see it for what it is, a copy of the M2 Linear Tank.

The Earth Federation Army develops the XM65 MBT with twin Linear Gun barrels based on the M61 MBT and fields 20 for long term research purposes.

Yes, this is somewhere over 100 years after Fate/Zero is supposed to take place, but I don't have an exact specification as to what year Anno Domini changed to the Universal Century. I mean, according to the more recent Gundam sources, they really said that it was supposed to be far off into the future (but never specified when).

If you guys want more info out of me, please, let me know as soon as humanly possible.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Tyrnek on July 20, 2013, 07:35:01 AM
Just curious: do you have an explanation as to why the Fourth War was delayed for so long?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on July 20, 2013, 07:39:51 AM
The best one that I can come up with is that the First War and anything around that point in time was bumped to over 100 years after they were canonically supposed to happen (including the births of every character in the Nasuverse around that point in time that was bumped back).

In short, it wasn't delayed, the First War was pushed that far back.

Any other questions?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on July 20, 2013, 02:49:20 PM
Some of the stuff in there isn't well-explained. For example, what is the "Alien Exclusion Act", or "Alien Landholding Law"?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on July 20, 2013, 06:00:41 PM
To put it bluntly? Those count as reasons why the Space Colonies (some of them) in the canonical Universal Century (not the in-story Universal Century) declare war on Earth for their independence. In canon, those bills were passed as a means of controlling the Spacenoids (aka people who were born and raised in Space) by the Earthnoids (aka people from Earth), though only one of those bills was passed and made a law in the story (as you might be able to see).

In short? Those bills were meant to limit Spacenoid freedom.

Of course, I'm still working on the details for how to put the Nasuverse stuff into the timeline, really. That's taking me far too long.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Tyrnek on July 20, 2013, 06:31:46 PM
As for the time pushback, maybe someone/something tried to prevent the Grail from ever being developed, but only succeeded in delaying it?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on July 20, 2013, 06:36:09 PM
Maybe. I'm still trying to figure everything out with this, which I can tell you is a big pain in the ass, and so on.

Still, you might have a point, so I'll consider it.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on July 20, 2013, 07:09:20 PM
To put it bluntly? Those count as reasons why the Space Colonies (some of them) in the canonical Universal Century (not the in-story Universal Century) declare war on Earth for their independence. In canon, those bills were passed as a means of controlling the Spacenoids (aka people who were born and raised in Space) by the Earthnoids (aka people from Earth), though only one of those bills was passed and made a law in the story (as you might be able to see).

In short? Those bills were meant to limit Spacenoid freedom.

Ah, OK.

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Of course, I'm still working on the details for how to put the Nasuverse stuff into the timeline, really. That's taking me far too long.

Ah, I see.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Tyrnek on July 20, 2013, 07:17:17 PM
Are Earthnoids and Spacenoids still the same, from a biological point of view?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on July 20, 2013, 07:47:11 PM
As this is a mix of Universal Century and Cosmic Era, there's a bit of difference, but they're essentially the same (same origin and everything to pinpoint them as human).
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Tyrnek on July 20, 2013, 08:06:31 PM
So no weird(er) Alaya shit going on, gotcha.

If you don't mind me offering an idea, I can imagine Waver being a Spacenoid, with Kayneth being an Earthnoid, just to add another layer of discrimination to the relationship.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on July 20, 2013, 11:59:11 PM
Hmm... I think I like the idea.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on August 18, 2013, 08:49:41 PM
I did have one fully fledged crossover idea recently although it would be utterly ridiculous on it's face, fsn and sailor moon
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on August 18, 2013, 08:50:17 PM
What's the actual idea? For the story, I mean.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on August 18, 2013, 08:59:36 PM
The new evil, because in sailor moon no one normally sticks around after sailor moon and friends take them down opens a portal to drain energy from another world, this world is the fsn world post grail war, the idea would be the characters meeting at random as the worlds merge and either cooperating or fighting based on personality. It'll probably include ocs and fan characters, and depending on how I go about theme development some characters may gain cross powers.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on September 13, 2013, 03:08:44 AM
Repost from Beast's Lair, because I wondered whether or not I could get an honest to goodness good response on this, particularly since I didn't get anything polite yet.

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Hmm... before you guys start overreacting to me posting this idea here, allow me to say something about it.

I tend to get heavily inspired by others works, even amongst the fanfic community.

Hell, my current project is based on someone else's work altogether, which is a Gundam triple crossover (the other person's story and my idea). The idea came to me that I could try my hand at it, but with some key differences, one of which involves an idea the other author and I bounced around for his story. He wanted to put in either Domon Kasshu, Heero Yuy, Amuro Ray or Banagher Links into his story, so I suggested that he stick with the two Newtypes, and he decided to start off with Amuro later on down the road compared to the current chapter (he posted a SOPA warning as chapter 4 for the time being). My idea's main difference is that I decided to set the story with Banagher as one of the main protagonists right off the bat. The story bases itself where it spans the plots of three different Gundam franchises (Cosmic Era, 00, and some of the Universal Century) and has both an action and a reaction to the whole course of events coming the way it does.

Anyway, I digress. I guess I should be discussing more Nasu-based ideas, instead.

Now, my idea is simply like this, as it's just a premise right now. What if Shirou summoned Amuro Ray as Servant Saver (even though Tomino made it clear that Newtypes aren't meant to be anything super special) because the actions of he and the combined Londo Bell/Second Neo Zeon forces put him in the Throne of Heroes despite the fact that the Age of Heroes is long over by that point?

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I don't expect Cherry to know anything on this, but maybe Lantz might know, particularly?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Mordalfus Grea on September 21, 2013, 07:39:17 AM
Okay a more recent Idea of mine, one that is somewhat of a doozy

A retelling of Fate Zero except instead of summoning one servant, each master summons Five including the servant the were meant to summon in the war in the first place, but the second servant summoned is either servant from past and future holy grail wars or is Anti/Heroic spirit that is from history that has yet to be featured in a grail war. The remaining three are plucked from other universes entirely and to ensure that a certain spirit holed up in the grail can get the most out of the war, the grail has set it up so that the masters only have to supply power to the weakest of the five servants while the grail provides for the other four. The storyline is mostly the same, though the devastation and destruction of the fourth war will be greater than it was in canon. The fifth war will follow along the same lines as this war but we'll cross that bridge when we reach it.


I'd thought it would be easier if I asked who you guys would for the other servants? Please note, for the canon/historical slot it can be any servant or historical figure deserving of the title of heroic and anti-heroic spirit. Also the fifth servant can be either a non-canon heroic spirit or you can recommend an OC character of yours for the slot.

Yes this does mean that EMIYA can be summoned in the fourth war, in either the class of Archer or Saber [my bet is on Saber, seriously the only way that Gilgamesh and EMIYA could get along is if either one or both of them were female]


Kiritsugu
  • Saber = Canon/Arturia
  • Saber = Canon-Historic/?
  • Saber = Non-Canon/?
  • Saber = Non-Canon/?
  • Saber = Non-Canon\OC/?

Tokiomi
  • Archer = Canon/Gilgamesh
  • Archer = Canon-Historic/?
  • Archer = Non-Canon/?
  • Archer = Non-Canon/?
  • Archer = Non-Canon\OC/?

Waver
  • Rider = Canon/Iskandar
  • Rider = Canon-Historic/?
  • Rider = Non-Canon/?
  • Rider = Non-Canon/?
  • Rider = Non-Canon\OC/?

Keyneth
  • Lancer = Canon/Diarmuid Ua Duibhne
  • Lancer = Canon-Historic/?
  • Lancer = Non-Canon/?
  • Lancer = Non-Canon/?
  • Lancer = Non-Canon\OC/?

Kariya
  • Berserker = Canon/Lancelot of the Lake
  • Berserker = Canon-Historic/?
  • Berserker = Non-Canon/?
  • Berserker = Non-Canon/?
  • Berserker = Non-Canon\OC/?

Ryuunosuke
  • Caster = Canon/Gilles de Rais
  • Caster = Canon-Historic/?
  • Caster = Non-Canon/?
  • Caster = Non-Canon/?
  • Caster = Non-Canon\OC/?

Kirei
  • Assassin = Canon/Hassan-i-Sabah
  • Assassin = Canon-Historic/?
  • Assassin = Non-Canon/?
  • Assassin = Non-Canon/?
  • Assassin = Non-Canon\OC/?

This idea is another recent one, from this idea spawned an alternate timeline where magic/magecraft is public and was never hidden in the first place and humanity gained from this choice. The events of the Negima and Harry potter storylines still occur but with several twists that are very common in Harry potter Fanfics where more people end up surviving and Harry does become the master of death which is more than a mere title mind you. Negi still ends up becoming immortal and the Holy Grail Wars also still occur but the public is aware of it, so Fuyuki was mostly evacuated to prevent unnecessary deaths. Also when Negi magically terraformed Mars, the Proethean ruins were discovered shortly after and the knowledge of Proethean technology allowed for this version of earth inhabitants to expand into the stars earlier than expected. The First Contact War still occurs but it is not with the Turians in the mid 22nd century, rather it is with the Batarians in the mid-early 23rd century who activate a relay in the pursuit of new slaves and discover Shanxi in the year 2234.

However the Batarians were not prepared for the giant they had awakened, The Systems Alliance was not a minor threat and it was not something to be taken lightly.

As this is a crossover with three magical realms and the Mass Effect Storyline, OCs of those realms and designs for the new magical version of the canon Systems Alliance vessels are welcomed and excepted.

This idea was also influenced by the thought of seeing an invading Reaper touching down on earth only to be besieged by Gaia for invading its realm, by Alaya for threatening humanity as a whole, and by Magic itself for harming its children. Ouch time for the Reapers

Unlike many of those other F/SN x Sekirei crossovers in which Shirou is either Minato Sahashi or a brother of theirs, in this storyline Shirou is not on the run as a sealing designate nor is he related to Takami Sahashi in any manner or fashion. Shirou is a freelancer he is married to Rin, Sakura, Taiga, Arturia/Saber, Medusa/Rider, & Archerko. Rin had instead summoned Archerko instead of EMIYA who while still having the same childhood and life as Shirou did, they are not biologically related. Taiga and Shirou married due to Taiga wanting to avoid a potential marriage contract from a rival Yakuza clan, that and she honestly did like Shirou. Shirou married the three Heroic spirits to bind them to this world until both his own death and that of his other wives as well, so the three servants were free to stay. Shirou much like Taiga, Rin and Shirou married to prevent her from being forced to marry some mage of less than appropriate tastes. Shirou and Sakura married not due to circumstance nor to evade another marriage, but simply out of love and respect.

Anyways what if Shirou was hired by MBI to be the Ashikabi of their second generation disciplinary squad and even with his stipulation that his new employers must provide a stipend as well as housing for his wives to which MBI did so though not without a few employee suffering nosebleeds at the thought of multiple, Shirou signed the contract that would forever make his to the leader of the new disciplinary squad. Shirou would of course round off the squad with a few other Sekirei although he did not expect the winging of the sekirei to bond them to him for life, something he would have to explain to his wives, much to Karasuba's amusement upon meeting the Emiya women. MBI had no idea about the true abilities of their newest employee or his origins, they Minaka would never realize that perhaps hiring the second Magus Killer was a bad idea

Pairings:
Beginning Main Pairings: Shirou x Sakura; Shirou x Rin; Shirou x Saber; Shirou x Rider; Shirou x Taiga; Shirou x Archerko;
To Be Developed Main Pairings: Shirou x No.04 Karasuba; Shirou x No.08 Yume; Shirou x No.105 Benitsubasa; Shirou x No.104 Haihane; Shirou x No.07 Akitsu; Shirou x No.84 Yashima; Shirou x No.65 Taki; Shirou x No.19 Ikki; Shirou x No.15 Himeko;
Secondary/Sekirei Pairings; Rin x Saber x Archerko [Bi]; Rin x No.39 Mitsuki x No.87 Kaho; Taiga x No.55 Saki; Sakura x No.50 Kuzuri x No.48 Kujika;
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on September 21, 2013, 03:06:04 PM
Okay a more recent Idea of mine, one that is somewhat of a doozy

A retelling of Fate Zero except instead of summoning one servant, each master summons Five including the servant the were meant to summon in the war in the first place, but the second servant summoned is either servant from past and future holy grail wars or is Anti/Heroic spirit that is from history that has yet to be featured in a grail war. The remaining three are plucked from other universes entirely and to ensure that a certain spirit holed up in the grail can get the most out of the war, the grail has set it up so that the masters only have to supply power to the weakest of the five servants while the grail provides for the other four. The storyline is mostly the same, though the devastation and destruction of the fourth war will be greater than it was in canon. The fifth war will follow along the same lines as this war but we'll cross that bridge when we reach it.


I'd thought it would be easier if I asked who you guys would for the other servants? Please note, for the canon/historical slot it can be any servant or historical figure deserving of the title of heroic and anti-heroic spirit. Also the fifth servant can be either a non-canon heroic spirit or you can recommend an OC character of yours for the slot.

Yes this does mean that EMIYA can be summoned in the fourth war, in either the class of Archer or Saber [my bet is on Saber, seriously the only way that Gilgamesh and EMIYA could get along is if either one or both of them were female]


Kiritsugu
  • Saber = Canon/Arturia
  • Saber = Canon-Historic/?
  • Saber = Non-Canon/?
  • Saber = Non-Canon/?
  • Saber = Non-Canon\OC/?

Tokiomi
  • Archer = Canon/Gilgamesh
  • Archer = Canon-Historic/?
  • Archer = Non-Canon/?
  • Archer = Non-Canon/?
  • Archer = Non-Canon\OC/?

Waver
  • Rider = Canon/Iskandar
  • Rider = Canon-Historic/?
  • Rider = Non-Canon/?
  • Rider = Non-Canon/?
  • Rider = Non-Canon\OC/?

Keyneth
  • Lancer = Canon/Diarmuid Ua Duibhne
  • Lancer = Canon-Historic/?
  • Lancer = Non-Canon/?
  • Lancer = Non-Canon/?
  • Lancer = Non-Canon\OC/?

Kariya
  • Berserker = Canon/Lancelot of the Lake
  • Berserker = Canon-Historic/?
  • Berserker = Non-Canon/?
  • Berserker = Non-Canon/?
  • Berserker = Non-Canon\OC/?

Ryuunosuke
  • Caster = Canon/Gilles de Rais
  • Caster = Canon-Historic/?
  • Caster = Non-Canon/?
  • Caster = Non-Canon/?
  • Caster = Non-Canon\OC/?

Kirei
  • Assassin = Canon/Hassan-i-Sabah
  • Assassin = Canon-Historic/?
  • Assassin = Non-Canon/?
  • Assassin = Non-Canon/?
  • Assassin = Non-Canon\OC/?

Hmm, interesting, although I can't think of any obvious picks at the moment. Kariya getting someone who can actually help Sakura would be nice....

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This idea is another recent one, from this idea spawned an alternate timeline where magic/magecraft is public and was never hidden in the first place and humanity gained from this choice. The events of the Negima and Harry potter storylines still occur but with several twists that are very common in Harry potter Fanfics where more people end up surviving and Harry does become the master of death which is more than a mere title mind you. Negi still ends up becoming immortal and the Holy Grail Wars also still occur but the public is aware of it, so Fuyuki was mostly evacuated to prevent unnecessary deaths. Also when Negi magically terraformed Mars, the Proethean ruins were discovered shortly after and the knowledge of Proethean technology allowed for this version of earth inhabitants to expand into the stars earlier than expected. The First Contact War still occurs but it is not with the Turians in the mid 22nd century, rather it is with the Batarians in the mid-early 23rd century who activate a relay in the pursuit of new slaves and discover Shanxi in the year 2234.

However the Batarians were not prepared for the giant they had awakened, The Systems Alliance was not a minor threat and it was not something to be taken lightly.

As this is a crossover with three magical realms and the Mass Effect Storyline, OCs of those realms and designs for the new magical version of the canon Systems Alliance vessels are welcomed and excepted.

This idea was also influenced by the thought of seeing an invading Reaper touching down on earth only to be besieged by Gaia for invading its realm, by Alaya for threatening humanity as a whole, and by Magic itself for harming its children. Ouch time for the Reapers

Hmm, where is the TM content in this?

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Unlike many of those other F/SN x Sekirei crossovers in which Shirou is either Minato Sahashi or a brother of theirs, in this storyline Shirou is not on the run as a sealing designate nor is he related to Takami Sahashi in any manner or fashion. Shirou is a freelancer he is married to Rin, Sakura, Taiga, Arturia/Saber, Medusa/Rider, & Archerko. Rin had instead summoned Archerko instead of EMIYA who while still having the same childhood and life as Shirou did, they are not biologically related. Taiga and Shirou married due to Taiga wanting to avoid a potential marriage contract from a rival Yakuza clan, that and she honestly did like Shirou. Shirou married the three Heroic spirits to bind them to this world until both his own death and that of his other wives as well, so the three servants were free to stay. Shirou much like Taiga, Rin and Shirou married to prevent her from being forced to marry some mage of less than appropriate tastes. Shirou and Sakura married not due to circumstance nor to evade another marriage, but simply out of love and respect.

Anyways what if Shirou was hired by MBI to be the Ashikabi of their second generation disciplinary squad and even with his stipulation that his new employers must provide a stipend as well as housing for his wives to which MBI did so though not without a few employee suffering nosebleeds at the thought of multiple, Shirou signed the contract that would forever make his to the leader of the new disciplinary squad. Shirou would of course round off the squad with a few other Sekirei although he did not expect the winging of the sekirei to bond them to him for life, something he would have to explain to his wives, much to Karasuba's amusement upon meeting the Emiya women. MBI had no idea about the true abilities of their newest employee or his origins, they Minaka would never realize that perhaps hiring the second Magus Killer was a bad idea

Pairings:
Beginning Main Pairings: Shirou x Sakura; Shirou x Rin; Shirou x Saber; Shirou x Rider; Shirou x Taiga; Shirou x Archerko;
To Be Developed Main Pairings: Shirou x No.04 Karasuba; Shirou x No.08 Yume; Shirou x No.105 Benitsubasa; Shirou x No.104 Haihane; Shirou x No.07 Akitsu; Shirou x No.84 Yashima; Shirou x No.65 Taki; Shirou x No.19 Ikki; Shirou x No.15 Himeko;
Secondary/Sekirei Pairings; Rin x Saber x Archerko [Bi]; Rin x No.39 Mitsuki x No.87 Kaho; Taiga x No.55 Saki; Sakura x No.50 Kuzuri x No.48 Kujika;

Well, this mostly works, although I'm not sure how exactly Shirou managed to marry multiple people when marriage in virtually every country in the world is something you're only allowed to do once. Particularly since these seem like fully legal marriages (and if they're not then Taiga's and Rin's wouldn't serve the intended purpose).

Also, why does he need to marry Heroic Spirits in order to keep them around? Surely just contracting them is sufficient....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Mordalfus Grea on September 22, 2013, 03:36:13 AM
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This idea is another recent one, from this idea spawned an alternate timeline where magic/magecraft is public and was never hidden in the first place and humanity gained from this choice. The events of the Negima and Harry potter storylines still occur but with several twists that are very common in Harry potter Fanfics where more people end up surviving and Harry does become the master of death which is more than a mere title mind you. Negi still ends up becoming immortal and the Holy Grail Wars also still occur but the public is aware of it, so Fuyuki was mostly evacuated to prevent unnecessary deaths. Also when Negi magically terraformed Mars, the Proethean ruins were discovered shortly after and the knowledge of Proethean technology allowed for this version of earth inhabitants to expand into the stars earlier than expected. The First Contact War still occurs but it is not with the Turians in the mid 22nd century, rather it is with the Batarians in the mid-early 23rd century who activate a relay in the pursuit of new slaves and discover Shanxi in the year 2234.

However the Batarians were not prepared for the giant they had awakened, The Systems Alliance was not a minor threat and it was not something to be taken lightly.

As this is a crossover with three magical realms and the Mass Effect Storyline, OCs of those realms and designs for the new magical version of the canon Systems Alliance vessels are welcomed and excepted.

This idea was also influenced by the thought of seeing an invading Reaper touching down on earth only to be besieged by Gaia for invading its realm, by Alaya for threatening humanity as a whole, and by Magic itself for harming its children. Ouch time for the Reapers

Hmm, where is the TM content in this?

It is sorta subtle in this storyline, certain magus lines [*Cough*Emiya*Cough*] exist and many of our favorite immortal dead apostles would make appearances in this new reality. Though seeing as magic/magecraft is publically accepted, they would not be hiding and the art of Faking could possibly be something that stayed with Shirou's descendants.

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Unlike many of those other F/SN x Sekirei crossovers in which Shirou is either Minato Sahashi or a brother of theirs, in this storyline Shirou is not on the run as a sealing designate nor is he related to Takami Sahashi in any manner or fashion. Shirou is a freelancer he is married to Rin, Sakura, Taiga, Arturia/Saber, Medusa/Rider, & Archerko. Rin had instead summoned Archerko instead of EMIYA who while still having the same childhood and life as Shirou did, they are not biologically related. Taiga and Shirou married due to Taiga wanting to avoid a potential marriage contract from a rival Yakuza clan, that and she honestly did like Shirou. Shirou married the three Heroic spirits to bind them to this world until both his own death and that of his other wives as well, so the three servants were free to stay. Shirou much like Taiga, Rin and Shirou married to prevent her from being forced to marry some mage of less than appropriate tastes. Shirou and Sakura married not due to circumstance nor to evade another marriage, but simply out of love and respect.

Anyways what if Shirou was hired by MBI to be the Ashikabi of their second generation disciplinary squad and even with his stipulation that his new employers must provide a stipend as well as housing for his wives to which MBI did so though not without a few employee suffering nosebleeds at the thought of multiple, Shirou signed the contract that would forever make his to the leader of the new disciplinary squad. Shirou would of course round off the squad with a few other Sekirei although he did not expect the winging of the sekirei to bond them to him for life, something he would have to explain to his wives, much to Karasuba's amusement upon meeting the Emiya women. MBI had no idea about the true abilities of their newest employee or his origins, they Minaka would never realize that perhaps hiring the second Magus Killer was a bad idea

Pairings:
Beginning Main Pairings: Shirou x Sakura; Shirou x Rin; Shirou x Saber; Shirou x Rider; Shirou x Taiga; Shirou x Archerko;
To Be Developed Main Pairings: Shirou x No.04 Karasuba; Shirou x No.08 Yume; Shirou x No.105 Benitsubasa; Shirou x No.104 Haihane; Shirou x No.07 Akitsu; Shirou x No.84 Yashima; Shirou x No.65 Taki; Shirou x No.19 Ikki; Shirou x No.15 Himeko;
Secondary/Sekirei Pairings; Rin x Saber x Archerko [Bi]; Rin x No.39 Mitsuki x No.87 Kaho; Taiga x No.55 Saki; Sakura x No.50 Kuzuri x No.48 Kujika;

Well, this mostly works, although I'm not sure how exactly Shirou managed to marry multiple people when marriage in virtually every country in the world is something you're only allowed to do once. Particularly since these seem like fully legal marriages (and if they're not then Taiga's and Rin's wouldn't serve the intended purpose).

Also, why does he need to marry Heroic Spirits in order to keep them around? Surely just contracting them is sufficient....
Yeah I need to rework that idea a bit.

Maybe making Sakura his wife, having Rin stick by their side out of Sisterly protection and their servants also being with them. Though I'll change Archerko back to EMIYA, I still wanna keep Taiga in on all this. So Taiga was hired to be the private tutor for Mikogami Hayato and upon seeing Mikogami, well her older sister instincts kick in. Mutsu is not winged by Mikogami but by Taiga instead, so Taiga's pairing would be between herself and Mutsu.

Instead Shirou takes the job at MBI and his stipulation is that his wife [Sakura], her two bodyguards [Rider & Saber], his sister-in-law [Rin] and her bodyguard [EMIYA] will be provided housing to MBI with no questions asked. Meanwhile Mikogami, Mutsu and Taiga are running about Shin Tokyo; Though it is mostly Mikogami getting distracted by the things in the city, Taiga following along and dragging Mutsu along for the ride.
Shirou does wind up in a Sekirei Harem but his first love is to Sakura, so she would be at the top of the pile and would be the alpha-female of Shirou's Harem. Archer's main interest is towards both Rin and Saber, so expect a love triangle between the three of them. Rider has no pairings as of yet decided.

Main Pairings V2: Shirou x Sakura; Archer x Rin x Saber; Taiga x Mutsu;
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on September 22, 2013, 03:46:57 AM
It is sorta subtle in this storyline, certain magus lines [*Cough*Emiya*Cough*] exist and many of our favorite immortal dead apostles would make appearances in this new reality. Though seeing as magic/magecraft is publically accepted, they would not be hiding and the art of Faking could possibly be something that stayed with Shirou's descendants.

Ah, OK, so it's basically OCs, aside from a few Dead Apostles?

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Maybe making Sakura his wife, having Rin stick by their side out of Sisterly protection and their servants also being with them. Though I'll change Archerko back to EMIYA, I still wanna keep Taiga in on all this. So Taiga was hired to be the private tutor for Mikogami Hayato and upon seeing Mikogami, well her older sister instincts kick in. Mutsu is not winged by Mikogami but by Taiga instead, so Taiga's pairing would be between herself and Mutsu.

Instead Shirou takes the job at MBI and his stipulation is that his wife [Sakura], her two bodyguards [Rider & Saber], his sister-in-law [Rin] and her bodyguard [EMIYA] will be provided housing to MBI with no questions asked. Meanwhile Mikogami, Mutsu and Taiga are running about Shin Tokyo; Though it is mostly Mikogami getting distracted by the things in the city, Taiga following along and dragging Mutsu along for the ride.
Shirou does wind up in a Sekirei Harem but his first love is to Sakura, so she would be at the top of the pile and would be the alpha-female of Shirou's Harem. Archer's main interest is towards both Rin and Saber, so expect a love triangle between the three of them. Rider has no pairings as of yet decided.

Main Pairings V2: Shirou x Sakura; Archer x Rin x Saber; Taiga x Mutsu;

Yeah, I think that definitely makes sense.

There's nothing necessarily wrong with having Shirou love more than one person. However, it doesn't really work unless the girls also love each other and, if there are a lot of them, they need to have additional partners (possibly each other...) since there is no way Shirou will be able to satisfy four or five girls of a similar sexual appetite to him.

Personally I don't have an issue with polyamorous relationships. However, harems like the one you originally suggested are inherently unequal, since the guy can get as much sex as he likes and the girls have to wait for him to choose them. Such a relationship is only going to work if the girls also love one another and, thus, do not need Shirou to be with them all the time. And, like I said, it is simply not possible (barring a significant change in the law) for Shirou to marry more than one person, full stop.

If Shirou has a harem  in the way that you suggest here, it might make sense to include Rider, who would obviously be loyal primarily to Sakura rather than to Shirou. She's also bisexual, which helps....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on September 22, 2013, 04:08:53 AM
Sekirei and Fsn, having seen the former in full and played the latter in full I can say that as crossovers go you are doing it wrong. The logic is lackluster here and the two have nothing in common.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Mordalfus Grea on September 22, 2013, 11:10:57 PM
It is sorta subtle in this storyline, certain magus lines [*Cough*Emiya*Cough*] exist and many of our favorite immortal dead apostles would make appearances in this new reality. Though seeing as magic/magecraft is publically accepted, they would not be hiding and the art of Faking could possibly be something that stayed with Shirou's descendants.

Ah, OK, so it's basically OCs, aside from a few Dead Apostles?

OCs, Dead Apostles, Magus, Heroic Spirits, Additional Planetary Spirits [aka Children of Gaia] and Magecraft.

The Planetary Spirits aka Children of Gaia are basically children spirits created by Gaia and Akasha that become the Planetary spirits of human colonized worlds, allows for Gaia to watch over the human race on various different worlds except the mother spirit is in direct connection with all of it's "children".

The heroic Spirits both pure, distorted, corrupted and misguided are given free roam as new Counter Guardians to watch over the Human race as advisors, generals, leaders, politicians, defenders and protectors. This would mean that both heroes and antiheroes roam this universes human territory, however they cannot go against Alaya and avalon's wishes without the risk of having their freedom from the afterlife revoked. So individuals

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Maybe making Sakura his wife, having Rin stick by their side out of Sisterly protection and their servants also being with them. Though I'll change Archerko back to EMIYA, I still wanna keep Taiga in on all this. So Taiga was hired to be the private tutor for Mikogami Hayato and upon seeing Mikogami, well her older sister instincts kick in. Mutsu is not winged by Mikogami but by Taiga instead, so Taiga's pairing would be between herself and Mutsu.

Instead Shirou takes the job at MBI and his stipulation is that his wife [Sakura], her two bodyguards [Rider & Saber], his sister-in-law [Rin] and her bodyguard [EMIYA] will be provided housing to MBI with no questions asked. Meanwhile Mikogami, Mutsu and Taiga are running about Shin Tokyo; Though it is mostly Mikogami getting distracted by the things in the city, Taiga following along and dragging Mutsu along for the ride.
Shirou does wind up in a Sekirei Harem but his first love is to Sakura, so she would be at the top of the pile and would be the alpha-female of Shirou's Harem. Archer's main interest is towards both Rin and Saber, so expect a love triangle between the three of them. Rider has no pairings as of yet decided.

Main Pairings V2: Shirou x Sakura; Archer x Rin x Saber; Taiga x Mutsu;

Yeah, I think that definitely makes sense.

There's nothing necessarily wrong with having Shirou love more than one person. However, it doesn't really work unless the girls also love each other and, if there are a lot of them, they need to have additional partners (possibly each other...) since there is no way Shirou will be able to satisfy four or five girls of a similar sexual appetite to him.

Personally I don't have an issue with polyamorous relationships. However, harems like the one you originally suggested are inherently unequal, since the guy can get as much sex as he likes and the girls have to wait for him to choose them. Such a relationship is only going to work if the girls also love one another and, thus, do not need Shirou to be with them all the time. And, like I said, it is simply not possible (barring a significant change in the law) for Shirou to marry more than one person, full stop.

If Shirou has a harem  in the way that you suggest here, it might make sense to include Rider, who would obviously be loyal primarily to Sakura rather than to Shirou. She's also bisexual, which helps....
Does make sense, to some of us

Sekirei and Fsn, having seen the former in full and played the latter in full I can say that as crossovers go you are doing it wrong. The logic is lackluster here and the two have nothing in common.
If I am doing it wrong, then how would I go about fixing it?

This idea actually came to me last night, so it is still fresh in my head. Anyways, this crossover is primarily a retelling of both the fourth and fifth holy grails wars but with a twist. The servants are the same as in canon, their noble phantasms are the same, their genders are the same, but their species is not the same. The Servants of the holy grail are summoned as Rookie [Child] Level Digimon of various species, they have the ability to digivolve and de-digivolve but like with actual digimon they need to discover the ability first. How will both holy grail wars fair when the servants have all been transformed into Digimon?

The Digimon that the servants become must reflect their nature, so don't expect for Gilgamesh to become a 'lowly' Patamon.

Saber =
Archer =
Rider =
Lancer =
Berserker =
Caster =
Assassin =
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on September 22, 2013, 11:54:20 PM
You can't, not without a complete concept rebuild. Starting with which cast you plan to use and then the method of adaptation for the other series details.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cursed by Creation on October 13, 2013, 11:00:15 AM
Here's an idea for a Halo x Fate crossover:

Several archeologists find a Precursor artifact and unwittingly activate it, causing them to hyper-evolve to a level that causes both Gaia and Alaya to lust for their blood.  The Precursor artifact however transports them to a secure location, but they later return to share the Precursors' 'gifts' with the rest of Humanity, something which the Association, the DAA, and the Church do not want to happen for various reasons such as but not limited to:

1) For the Association all of Humanity gaining the power of neural physics would mean an end to all magecraft.
2) For the Church, neural physics is something that would give Humanity the power of God, and therefore must be abhorred.
3) For the DAA it would mean Humanity surpassing Gaia and Alaya, marking an end to the balance of the World.

However, world leaders secretly form an arrangement with the Precursor-touched Humans, resulting in a war between the ordinary Humans and their magical counterparts and their allies.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on October 13, 2013, 08:41:38 PM
Hmm, I doubt it would be as simple as a war between ordinary humans and magi. For example, where would someone like Shirou fit into that? He uses magic, but he's not a magus.

And, even magi who do want magecraft to remain powerful would not necessarily agree on methods. I don't see someone like Rin or Sakura being OK with massacring civilians, for example. Plus, magi are absolutely bloody awful at working together on things. That's why the Grail War is a Grail War and not a "Grail Peaceful Ritual". And that's without even mentioning the fact that the Association, Church and DAAs all hate each other with a passion. I think it would be a lot more complex than just a direct war.

Also, why would humanity gaining the power of neural physics make magecraft disappear?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cursed by Creation on October 13, 2013, 11:35:54 PM
Neural physics is just a fancy term the Forerunners gave the Precursor' ability to think things into existence.  If everyone could use that, what's the point of studying magecraft when you can just use neural physics?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on October 14, 2013, 12:06:32 AM
Ah, OK.

Even so, though, it doesn't actually make magecraft impossible, just obsolete, and it doesn't prevent the ultimate goal of magi, which is to reach Akasha.

Certainly there are magi who would nevertheless oppose it, but I wouldn't expect the nicer magi like Rin to do so. She has no desire to hold back the rest of humanity just so she can be superior to them. And, some magi would outright support it, particularly the ones with specific goals. For example, I would expect Zouken to be on humanity's side there, since he could use the technology to gain immortality.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cursed by Creation on October 14, 2013, 01:02:40 AM
Most of the Association (especially the most traditional families) won't though.  And neither would the DAA or the Church.  Here's an interesting thought: Precursor-touched Humans vs Counter Guardians and the Dog of Gaia/Altrouge Brunestud.  The carnage would be glorious.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on October 14, 2013, 01:09:10 AM
Most of the Association (especially the most traditional families) won't though.  And neither would the DAA or the Church. 

Yeah, possibly, although the Association would be less bothered than the rest, probably.

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Here's an interesting thought: Precursor-touched Humans vs Counter Guardians and the Dog of Gaia/Altrouge Brunestud.  The carnage would be glorious.

Why would Counter-Guardians be summoned against them, though? They're no danger to humanity.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cursed by Creation on October 14, 2013, 01:25:30 AM
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Here's an interesting thought: Precursor-touched Humans vs Counter Guardians and the Dog of Gaia/Altrouge Brunestud.  The carnage would be glorious.

Why would Counter-Guardians be summoned against them, though? They're no danger to humanity.

The balance would break, that's why.  I understand that with each passing generation Alaya would slowly grow in strength as Humanity steadily advances at the cost of the natural world, but that doesn't mean the Counter Force doesn't try to prolong the inevitable destruction of the World.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on October 14, 2013, 01:36:11 AM
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Here's an interesting thought: Precursor-touched Humans vs Counter Guardians and the Dog of Gaia/Altrouge Brunestud.  The carnage would be glorious.

Why would Counter-Guardians be summoned against them, though? They're no danger to humanity.

The balance would break, that's why.  I understand that with each passing generation Alaya would slowly grow in strength as Humanity steadily advances at the cost of the natural world, but that doesn't mean the Counter Force doesn't try to prolong the inevitable destruction of the World.

Alaya isn't interested in protecting Gaia. It's interested in advancing humanity. It couldn't care less if we destroy the world, it only cares if we survive doing so.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cursed by Creation on October 14, 2013, 01:45:17 AM
I agree, but the Counter Force can be called upon by both Gaia and Alaya.  Regardless of what either do, individual Humans would suffer and die as a result.  So yes, Alaya might send Counter Guardians if the Precursor-touched Humans provoke Gaia overwhelmingly.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on October 14, 2013, 01:47:33 AM
I agree, but the Counter Force can be called upon by both Gaia and Alaya.  Regardless of what either do, individual Humans would suffer and die as a result.  So yes, Alaya might send Counter Guardians if the Precursor-touched Humans provoke Gaia overwhelmingly.

Actually, the Counter Force is a Gaia-only thing. Alaya has Counter Guardians.

However, I don't think Alaya would act to stop humans provoking Gaia. It can only act to protect humans from each other or from an external threat, not to protect something else from humans. It would simply act to stop Gaia from wiping out humanity.

Remember, Alaya is the collective human consciousness. I don't think it is an independant entity with its own will. It won't act to prevent things that humans want to happen solely because they might have bad consequences in the future.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cursed by Creation on October 14, 2013, 01:55:29 AM
True, Alaya doesn't seem to care that Humanity is inevitably marching down the road to Notes.

Okay, shifting gears, if the Ultimate Ones are prematurely summoned (ORT/Type-Mercury is already on Earth) as a result of the appearance of the Precursor-touched Humans, would the Counter-Guardians be summoned to help fight them?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on October 14, 2013, 02:09:27 AM
Hmm, I dunno. Most probably, yes, since they're a threat to humanity as a whole.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cursed by Creation on October 14, 2013, 02:16:14 AM
Alright then, I'll note that down in my list of pilots.

Moving on, this is one concept that's been dancing around but I'll probably never do it because the protagonist is too OP: Superman as Kariya's Berserker.  Honestly, Type-Krypton as a Servant?  What do you think?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on October 14, 2013, 02:27:58 AM
Okay, I was laughing a fair bit there, which makes me wonder how likely Superman would act in the situation in a truly positive manner (if I recall correctly, he's weak to magic, anyway).
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on October 14, 2013, 02:35:20 AM
Alright then, I'll note that down in my list of pilots.

Moving on, this is one concept that's been dancing around but I'll probably never do it because the protagonist is too OP: Superman as Kariya's Berserker.  Honestly, Type-Krypton as a Servant?  What do you think?

Oddly enough, despite his power, I don't think Superman would be a particularly great servant for Kariya. He lacks any ability to cure Sakura (or Kariya himself) and he isn't going to hand the Grail over to a monster like Zouken, even if he can win it.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cursed by Creation on October 14, 2013, 03:12:08 AM
Assuming he doesn't just pulp Zouken or throw him into the Phantom Zone.  At that point, Zouken has yet to implant his Crest Worms into Sakura, so it should be no issue.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on October 14, 2013, 03:55:18 AM
I thought that the Crest Worms were already implanted inside Sakura, and the only worm in need of implantation was the Soul Worm, which would only be put in after the Fourth War?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cursed by Creation on October 14, 2013, 04:00:03 AM
Weren't those one and the same thing?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Alice on October 14, 2013, 06:17:55 AM
From what I recall, the "Soul Worm" is somewhat unique in that it enables Zouken to take over Sakura's body and have the other worms eat at her brain so he can accomplish that goal. It's the Master Worm, so to speak. I remember that once Dark Sakura squished said Heart Worm, it effectively freed her from his control. ...I could be remembering stuff wrong though. ^_^" 
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on October 14, 2013, 10:01:14 AM
Superman cannot be summoned as a servant, for several reasons.

1) Super man has never canonically died

2) Berserker requires insanity, superman has never suffered from this.

3) he is not a being within the scope of the system, just as you cannot summon yvyh or Shiva you cannot summon the last son of krypton.

4) he is not of earth, although his ability to be classified as 'type krypton" is debatable he's still incompatible with the system  one way or another.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on October 14, 2013, 05:19:14 PM
Assuming he doesn't just pulp Zouken or throw him into the Phantom Zone.  At that point, Zouken has yet to implant his Crest Worms into Sakura, so it should be no issue.

I'm not convinced that's the case. He doesn't have the cursed worms inside Sakura, but I would suspect his soul worm is already in there, and the more normal crest worms definitely are.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Mordalfus Grea on October 17, 2013, 02:15:23 AM
Moving on, this is one concept that's been dancing around but I'll probably never do it because the protagonist is too OP: Superman as Kariya's Berserker.  Honestly, Type-Krypton as a Servant?  What do you think?

Why not use Green Scar Aka The Hulk in the Place of Superman? Yeah, no flying ability but the angrier he gets the stronger he is and for a berserker that is sorta good right?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: solitare on November 23, 2013, 07:00:41 PM
I have two crossover ideas for you.


Final Fantasy XIII and Fate/Stay Night Crossover Challenge
Snow Villiers is the reincarnation of Shirou Emiya, but his memories and powers do not awaken until he is turned into a L'cie. Snow is the determined hero who wants to save everybody but mostly Serah, his love. For this reason the Shirou part of Snow should be from the Heaven's Feel route where he throws away his ideals to save Sakura. Lightning is kind of like a mixture of Saber and Rin. She's a stoic hero with awesome sword skills but has doubts all the way about how she failed in her responsibility to protect Serah (or Britain for Saber), like Saber. She is violent toward Snow when she thinks he's being an idiot and her sister is his love interest, like Rin. The original idea for this challenge was that Rule Breaker could remove the L'cie brand without taking the powers with it, and the fate of turning into either a Cie'th or a Crystal vanishes with the L'cie brand's removal. I would suggest that Saber be Snow's eidolon, but their gestalt mode would be difficult. Instead of Saber transforming into some type of mount for Snow to ride, I suggest that they merge into one being like the The Fate/Prototype Saber (male Arthur Pendragon). ProtoSaber's Excalibur Proto is EX ranked as opposed to Saber's A++ ranked Excalibur so its a good upgrade. Excalibur Proto overpowers ProtoGilgamesh's Enki, which is EX ranked and as powerful as Ea. A Libra during Snow and saber's Gestalt battle could reveal that Saber "yields to those who show personal history" (either Shirou's or Saber's weapons) and "yields to those who show Reality Marbles". Maybe an OMAKE could show Snow turning into a Cie'th, but his Cie'th form is Shirou's Made of Blades form from when Archer's arm and Reality Marble overran his body. The funny part is that this Cie'th would succeed at rescuing Serah like Shirou rescued Sakura while his body, mind, and soul were dying. This being Shirou, he might get together with Lightning and Saber as well as Serah. Maybe the Shroud of Martin could seal off the L'cie marks like it does to Archer's arm.


TYPE-MOON/Sailor Moon Crossover
The Sailor Senshi are the incarnations of the Aristoteles (TYPEs). Similarly to how TYPE-VENUS later incarnated as a blonde woman with wings, the TYPEs incarnated into a human form. Unfortunately, this resulted in their memories being temporarily sealed off, but they are slowly coming back (like Silver Millennium memories). This is an AU of Angel Notes where instead of Gaia dying and sending out a cry for revenge against humanity, Gaia is invaded by the Negaverse and calls for help from the other planets. The Youma invading from the Negaverse are an alien existence and no one other than wielders of True Magic are able to affect them. The TYPEs (now Senshi) are also an alien existence so are able to kill the Youma. Gaia and the other planets were worried that the mere presence of the TYPEs would do as much harm as the Youma themselves thanks to the TYPEs alien existence rewriting the reality around them. So the TYPEs were incarnated as embryos into the wombs of specifically chosen women across Tokyo, the center of the Negaverse incursion. The embryonic incarnation of the TYPEs used the natural process of birth to cause the world to regard the TYPEs' presence as natural and vice-versa, so there would be no conflict with their presence in the world. Maybe the Moon Castle could be Millennium Castle Brunestud. I am not sure what to make of Arcueid Brunestud. Maybe she could be the Senshi of Earth or a replacement for Mamoru. The TYPE-MOON wiki calls Arcueid ARCHETYPE-EARTH, so I suppose something Earth related if you want to include her in the story. This story was intended to answer the question of how to make Sailor Moon cooler. My answer was to import it into the TYPE-MOON universe.

Edit: fixed the spacing and added the Shroud of Martin idea
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2013, 01:25:31 AM
Hmm, is there a reason your post is spaced like that?

As for the ideas, I don't know much about what they're crossing-over with, but if you're looking at HF Shirou for the first one I'm not sure he would easily fall for someone else. I'm not sure how exactly you're intending this to work, though.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on November 25, 2013, 09:39:06 AM
The sailormoon crossover although out there has potential. However the final fantasy 13 crossover needs to be scrapped completely. FF13 has a god awful story and no amount of crossovers can ever fix the problems inherent in the plot and characters. It's best not to dirty your hands attempting to crossover the nasuverse with final fantasy, from 7 to13 (9 and 11 excluded for obvious reasons) the stories and characters have been heavily flawed at best.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 25, 2013, 09:51:21 AM
However the final fantasy 13 crossover needs to be scrapped completely.
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needs

Nah.

Should? Probably, idea sounds pretty bad. You'd prefer it? Obviously. But needs?

Nah.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on November 25, 2013, 09:54:26 AM
Whatever dude, I'm tired one word is insignificant
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 25, 2013, 10:26:26 AM
It's not insignificant if the guy decides to come back, sees that one of his ideas was labeled "Needs to be scrapped" for reasons having nothing to do with the idea itself and decides to go elsewhere in the future because you came off as a Final Fantasy elitist.

You might think there's no such thing as tone on the internet, Lantz, but there is wording.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: solitare on November 25, 2013, 11:57:49 AM
Hmm, is there a reason your post is spaced like that?

As for the ideas, I don't know much about what they're crossing-over with, but if you're looking at HF Shirou for the first one I'm not sure he would easily fall for someone else. I'm not sure how exactly you're intending this to work, though.

The formatting is from my ffnet page. I was hoping that it would make my long post easier to read. As much as I like this forum's background, it's not very good for reading. As for Shirou not falling for anyone else, I agree. I guess I should have worded that part better. What I meant was that Snow would apply Shirou's memories and powers to Snow's life. I wanted Snow to be his own person and not having Shirou basically possessing or replacing him.

the final fantasy 13 crossover needs to be scrapped completely. FF13 has a god awful story and no amount of crossovers can ever fix the problems inherent in the plot and characters. It's best not to dirty your hands attempting to crossover the nasuverse with final fantasy, from 7 to13 (9 and 11 excluded for obvious reasons) the stories and characters have been heavily flawed at best.

Could you tell me why you thought it was so bad? I played FF13-2 first and loved it. It was my first Final Fantasy game. Now I'm playing FF13 (chapter 8 I think) and I'm liking it as well. People complain about feeling claustrophobic, but the linear nature stops me from getting lost. I tried Oblivion and I spent the first 12 hours lost in the woods before someone accidentally ejected the game (I hadn't saved) and I decided not to try again.

Basically, when I started playing FF13 I thought that Snow reminded me a lot of Shirou, but Snow starts off a lot more competent. It sounded to me like: "I will save save everyone, but especially Serah". That's pretty much Shirou without his distortion. Snow starts off as "I'll save Serah. Screw the world". That sounds kind of like HF Shirou.

I just had another idea for the FF13 crossover. How about using the Shroud of Martin to seal off the L'cie brands. Hey, it worked for Archer's arm. That's another thing I saw in common with HF Shirou. Snow and Shirou both get superpowers that slowly kill them and turn them into mindless monsters. I bet Shirou's Made of Blades form would count as an Undying Cie'th (the strongest kind which are mostly bosses and superbosses).
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2013, 12:27:50 PM
The formatting is from my ffnet page. I was hoping that it would make my long post easier to read.

It doesn't. Having paragraph breaks in the middle of sentences makes it really difficult to read. Breaking it down into more paragraphs is fine, but breaking in the middle of a sentence makes it hard to understand.

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As much as I like this forum's background, it's not very good for reading.

It's generally OK, I think.

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As for Shirou not falling for anyone else, I agree. I guess I should have worded that part better. What I meant was that Snow would apply Shirou's memories and powers to Snow's life. I wanted Snow to be his own person and not having Shirou basically possessing or replacing him.

Ah, OK.

So, this is a mostly FF story, then, with a small addition of FSN?

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Basically, when I started playing FF13 I thought that Snow reminded me a lot of Shirou, but Snow starts off a lot more competent. It sounded to me like: "I will save save everyone, but especially Serah". That's pretty much Shirou without his distortion. Snow starts off as "I'll save Serah. Screw the world". That sounds kind of like HF Shirou.

I would say that HF Shirou's attitude is more "I will save everyone, but especially Sakura", actually. Once he decides to protect her, he doesn't stop trying to protect innocents from the shadow, and he doesn't stop getting upset at people dying.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on November 25, 2013, 03:37:37 PM
Ignoring everything else wrong with the game (because they don't have anything to do with the relation between the game and the story idea you posted) the god things can talk, this is a major plot hole when you consider everything else in the laughable twenty minutes of story they have which they pretend is a fifty hour game. Become ragnarok and destroy cocoon. Simple motivation but because square desperately wants to think it is a movie company now they had to add cheap paper thin mystery to the story  which falls flat when all the god things can talk and therefore render the mystery meaningless. And they ALL want cocoon dead so it's not even like you can make the case that it's a faction thing because numerous of the creatures are found at tensionless points in the game who can tell them their focus.

in addition to the gaping hole they call plot the characters are horrible people and never get better (except hope who stops being a little dumbass) lightning wishes she was like Rin or Saber but frankly she's just a pale imitation of cloud strife with a completely bipolar moral compass. Fact is that ignoring everything else you are taking much better characters and forcing them to interact with stereotypes and poorly written material.

13 is simply trash when compared to almost any other story including 80's schlock.  Names believes I'm being an ff snob but that's not it, 13 is just the worst story I've ever seen on screen. My other issues with the game are not relevant.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: The Man With All The Cute Boats on November 25, 2013, 08:41:16 PM
13 is simply trash when compared to almost any other story including 80's schlock.  Names believes I'm being an ff snob but that's not it, 13 is just the worst story I've ever seen on screen. My other issues with the game are not relevant.
No no, my problem was that you were stating your opinion(the game is utter, irredeemable shit and so are its characters) in a manner that makes it sound as if this is fact and stating, as fact, that: This needs to get scrapped. You are forcing your opinion on this person in an attempt to restrain them from writing/thinking up more FF13 ideas, and this is simply not cool and you do SOUND like a FF snob by saying it.

You don't like the game, ok. I don't either, though obviously not on the same degree. But other people are allowed to enjoy it and write FF on it, and you don't get the right to veto it and state that it needs to go just because you don't like the game.

And honestly, I never liked Hope even after he stops being a dumbass. He just seemed a little braindead to me, constantly parroting the other party members and being generally irrelevant. Sazh was the best to me, in that he deals with the situation more reasonably and is more relatable due to the situation with his son. He's just a normal father out to protect his boy, and who's too afraid to pull the trigger on himself once he causes his child to become a statue. He's very human, in that.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: solitare on November 25, 2013, 08:58:04 PM
It doesn't. Having paragraph breaks in the middle of sentences makes it really difficult to read. Breaking it down into more paragraphs is fine, but breaking in the middle of a sentence makes it hard to understand.
Ah, okay. Do you want me to repost them with normal formatting? As to the background, I was mostly referring to the white-ish splotches behind the white font making it a little harder for me to read.

I would say that HF Shirou's attitude is more "I will save everyone, but especially Sakura", actually. Once he decides to protect her, he doesn't stop trying to protect innocents from the shadow, and he doesn't stop getting upset at people dying.
That's actually what I meant to say. I'm not sure why I said what I did, but this is from the original post: "Snow is the determined hero who wants to save everybody but mostly Serah, his love." I was kind of in a rush this morning.

Okay lantzblades, we know you hate FF13, so just skip that one. Pretend it doesn't exist. What do you think of the Sailor Moon crossover? Seriously, I thought most of the objections would be over that one given that I suggested crossing TYPE-MOON with Sailor Moon of all things. I really didn't expect a rabid FF13 hater. Maybe reading so much fanfiction has lowered my standards or maybe you're overly sensitive, but please just ignore that one.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 25, 2013, 10:07:28 PM
FF13 isn't the best of the games, and while the characters might be kinda unlikeable at points (and Snow is a pedo) they aren't that bad. And there are worse games in the series.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 25, 2013, 10:31:41 PM
Ah, okay. Do you want me to repost them with normal formatting?

It would be better if you just edited the post.

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As to the background, I was mostly referring to the white-ish splotches behind the white font making it a little harder for me to read.

I don't think it's that much of an issue, although if you're finding it difficult we do have other styles.

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That's actually what I meant to say. I'm not sure why I said what I did, but this is from the original post: "Snow is the determined hero who wants to save everybody but mostly Serah, his love." I was kind of in a rush this morning.

Ah, OK.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: solitare on November 26, 2013, 06:58:37 AM
Thanks for the edit suggestion Cherry Lover! I didn't know I could do that. I'm kinda new here and I don't go on forums much anyway.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 26, 2013, 12:46:11 PM
That's OK.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Mordalfus Grea on November 27, 2013, 12:37:14 AM
It may not be my place to speak as I have never played a single Final Fantasy Game in my life but thanks to the multiple fanfictions and the wikia, I am of the opinion that the only two FF series that could possibly work with a TYPE-MOON Crossover are VII & X.

One is a world on the verge of ending due to corporate assholes and nutcases, not to mention said corporation is nearly completely corrupt. VII sounds like a place where a quite a few individuals [Shirou included] would fit in fairly well, especially if Shirou's merry band of companions [Rin, Archer, Sakura, Rider, Illya, Saber, & Taiga] and maybe a few other servants arrived in Wutai before Shinra invaded, they could both fight and defend the people of Wutai.

The Second world, where technology is shunned and a creature known as SIN runs rampant. Again another world where characters and servants could blend in while fighting the main threats to said world.


Anyways I have a Crossover idea of my own to present

Fate Stay/Night x Cardcaptor Sakura
What if while looking around an old shop, Sakura [Matou] found an old tome that she found herself drawn to. After purchasing said old tome and bringing it 'home', she opens the tome. Like in the original cardcaptor series the majority of the cards are spread all across Fuyuki City but like in CCS The Windy returns to Sakura shortly after and the two guardians of the cards are released. This occurs a week before she summons Rider, so not only is the fifth war breaking out but Sakura must capture and tame the clow cards as their new master.

The main issues with this crossover is how Zouken would deal with the Clow Cards, no doubt he'd try and use them to his gain but as Sakura is to be their mistress, he can't make Sakura make Shinji the new master of the cards due to him having no magic ability of his own.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on November 27, 2013, 01:20:38 AM
I'm not a rabid hater, I objectively acknowledged the terrible job they did. You could use any other final fantasy  as a cross over setting and be far better off. Rereading it I realize it has very little to do with type moon so my mistake.

the sailor moon crossover only comes down to the way it's written, as I said, it has potential.

the card captor thing is actually an idea I've had as well. I think since I'm doing my own version of the idea I may not be the best person to give an opinion.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Mordalfus Grea on November 27, 2013, 04:03:13 AM
the card captor thing is actually an idea I've had as well. I think since I'm doing my own version of the idea I may not be the best person to give an opinion.

I came up with it after I got the urge to relisten to the english theme for the show and let me tell ya, even now years after it ended I still got the theme in my head even before rewatching the theme. So I wanna hear your idea if its okay with you Lantz
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 27, 2013, 04:37:18 AM
It may not be my place to speak as I have never played a single Final Fantasy Game in my life but thanks to the multiple fanfictions and the wikia, I am of the opinion that the only two FF series that could possibly work with a TYPE-MOON Crossover are VII & X.

One is a world on the verge of ending due to corporate assholes and nutcases, not to mention said corporation is nearly completely corrupt. VII sounds like a place where a quite a few individuals [Shirou included] would fit in fairly well, especially if Shirou's merry band of companions [Rin, Archer, Sakura, Rider, Illya, Saber, & Taiga] and maybe a few other servants arrived in Wutai before Shinra invaded, they could both fight and defend the people of Wutai.

The Second world, where technology is shunned and a creature known as SIN runs rampant. Again another world where characters and servants could blend in while fighting the main threats to said world.

Hmm, well, I don't know much about FFX, but I do know FFVII, and I think it could be interesting to see that crossover. Presumably Shirou and friends would end up on Cloud's team somehow.

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Anyways I have a Crossover idea of my own to present

Fate Stay/Night x Cardcaptor Sakura
What if while looking around an old shop, Sakura [Matou] found an old tome that she found herself drawn to. After purchasing said old tome and bringing it 'home', she opens the tome. Like in the original cardcaptor series the majority of the cards are spread all across Fuyuki City but like in CCS The Windy returns to Sakura shortly after and the two guardians of the cards are released. This occurs a week before she summons Rider, so not only is the fifth war breaking out but Sakura must capture and tame the clow cards as their new master.

The main issues with this crossover is how Zouken would deal with the Clow Cards, no doubt he'd try and use them to his gain but as Sakura is to be their mistress, he can't make Sakura make Shinji the new master of the cards due to him having no magic ability of his own.

Hmm, this does seem interesting (although I've seen Lantz's idea before). I suspect that Zouken is the biggest problem here, though, because he would abuse his control over Sakura massively, and it's going to be very difficult for her to resist that and not end up dead or worse.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Mordalfus Grea on November 27, 2013, 04:51:26 AM
It may not be my place to speak as I have never played a single Final Fantasy Game in my life but thanks to the multiple fanfictions and the wikia, I am of the opinion that the only two FF series that could possibly work with a TYPE-MOON Crossover are VII & X.

One is a world on the verge of ending due to corporate assholes and nutcases, not to mention said corporation is nearly completely corrupt. VII sounds like a place where a quite a few individuals [Shirou included] would fit in fairly well, especially if Shirou's merry band of companions [Rin, Archer, Sakura, Rider, Illya, Saber, & Taiga] and maybe a few other servants arrived in Wutai before Shinra invaded, they could both fight and defend the people of Wutai.

The Second world, where technology is shunned and a creature known as SIN runs rampant. Again another world where characters and servants could blend in while fighting the main threats to said world.

Hmm, well, I don't know much about FFX, but I do know FFVII, and I think it could be interesting to see that crossover. Presumably Shirou and friends would end up on Cloud's team somehow.

Probably but I am willing to bet with Shirou's entourage Shinra's war against Wutai would have gone very differently, imagine if Shirou was something of a big brother for Yuffie and a wanted 'criminal' by Shinra. They'd want to examine him for his unique abilities [UBW] and how they could potentially replicate it, though they'd have better luck teaching Gilgamesh humility.

Anyways I have a Crossover idea of my own to present

Fate Stay/Night x Cardcaptor Sakura
What if while looking around an old shop, Sakura [Matou] found an old tome that she found herself drawn to. After purchasing said old tome and bringing it 'home', she opens the tome. Like in the original cardcaptor series the majority of the cards are spread all across Fuyuki City but like in CCS The Windy returns to Sakura shortly after and the two guardians of the cards are released. This occurs a week before she summons Rider, so not only is the fifth war breaking out but Sakura must capture and tame the clow cards as their new master.

The main issues with this crossover is how Zouken would deal with the Clow Cards, no doubt he'd try and use them to his gain but as Sakura is to be their mistress, he can't make Sakura make Shinji the new master of the cards due to him having no magic ability of his own.

Hmm, this does seem interesting (although I've seen Lantz's idea before). I suspect that Zouken is the biggest problem here, though, because he would abuse his control over Sakura massively, and it's going to be very difficult for her to resist that and not end up dead or worse.

Though the moment she gets the Erase card, well then things can change. Sakura could then Erase the worms inside of her freeing herself and killing the worm man. Though you gotta wonder how Zouken will contend with Yue and Kero, the two guardians of the Cards. The moment the two of them assume their true forms, well the term burn it with fire comes to mind and The Firey would probably enjoy hunting for worms.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 27, 2013, 05:03:26 AM
It may not be my place to speak as I have never played a single Final Fantasy Game in my life but thanks to the multiple fanfictions and the wikia, I am of the opinion that the only two FF series that could possibly work with a TYPE-MOON Crossover are VII & X.

One is a world on the verge of ending due to corporate assholes and nutcases, not to mention said corporation is nearly completely corrupt. VII sounds like a place where a quite a few individuals [Shirou included] would fit in fairly well, especially if Shirou's merry band of companions [Rin, Archer, Sakura, Rider, Illya, Saber, & Taiga] and maybe a few other servants arrived in Wutai before Shinra invaded, they could both fight and defend the people of Wutai.

The Second world, where technology is shunned and a creature known as SIN runs rampant. Again another world where characters and servants could blend in while fighting the main threats to said world.

Hmm, well, I don't know much about FFX, but I do know FFVII, and I think it could be interesting to see that crossover. Presumably Shirou and friends would end up on Cloud's team somehow.

Probably but I am willing to bet with Shirou's entourage Shinra's war against Wutai would have gone very differently, imagine if Shirou was something of a big brother for Yuffie and a wanted 'criminal' by Shinra. They'd want to examine him for his unique abilities [UBW] and how they could potentially replicate it, though they'd have better luck teaching Gilgamesh humility.

Yeah, definitely. I think Shirou and friends would make a formidable team.

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Anyways I have a Crossover idea of my own to present

Fate Stay/Night x Cardcaptor Sakura
What if while looking around an old shop, Sakura [Matou] found an old tome that she found herself drawn to. After purchasing said old tome and bringing it 'home', she opens the tome. Like in the original cardcaptor series the majority of the cards are spread all across Fuyuki City but like in CCS The Windy returns to Sakura shortly after and the two guardians of the cards are released. This occurs a week before she summons Rider, so not only is the fifth war breaking out but Sakura must capture and tame the clow cards as their new master.

The main issues with this crossover is how Zouken would deal with the Clow Cards, no doubt he'd try and use them to his gain but as Sakura is to be their mistress, he can't make Sakura make Shinji the new master of the cards due to him having no magic ability of his own.

Hmm, this does seem interesting (although I've seen Lantz's idea before). I suspect that Zouken is the biggest problem here, though, because he would abuse his control over Sakura massively, and it's going to be very difficult for her to resist that and not end up dead or worse.

Though the moment she gets the Erase card, well then things can change. Sakura could then Erase the worms inside of her freeing herself and killing the worm man. Though you gotta wonder how Zouken will contend with Yue and Kero, the two guardians of the Cards. The moment the two of them assume their true forms, well the term burn it with fire comes to mind and The Firey would probably enjoy hunting for worms.

Zouken isn't stupid, though. He's not going to let Sakura get into a position where she can free herself and kill him if he has any inkling that it might happen. He'd sooner kill her than let her go free with the potential to kill him or tell Rin etc. of what he does.

If he doesn't know the details it's possible, but even then Sakura would be under his control at the start, which I think is a very bad thing indeed.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: lantzblades on November 27, 2013, 10:00:02 AM
Well it's late but the jist is that Zelretch archer and a few others are talking about the tragedy of Sakura's fate and Satoshi, Aoko, Aoi and Lancer kick the door down and they force Tokomi, Zel and such to help in changing her fate, because they are unable to give Sakura magic crest or change her spliting from Rin the group create an altered timeline where Sakura is given a book with Sealed Spirits in the form of cards ( yes all the ones from card captor Sakura ) these spirits including the guardians are nasuverse characters who represent the cards best. The major difference is that the cards are the actual hero and can think and such once captured.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on November 27, 2013, 04:50:11 PM
Well, that sounds rather different from his suggestion, honestly. His seems to involve Sakura getting the book much later, and with Zouken still being in the picture.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Elf on December 07, 2013, 06:15:24 PM
So here's something of a crossover idea I've had for a while: Tsukhime x Vampire Hunter D.

I re-watched Bloodlust last night, and if you haven't seen that movie, do so even if "dhampir" is wrongly translated as "dunpeal" in the English dub. It's gorgeous, beautifully Gothic, has a ton of action, incredible design work, and just I can fangirl this movie for like hours.

Anyway! It wouldn't be too much to tweak D's back story to make him fit into Type-Moon.

So, Crimson Moon wasn't quite the douche was all thought he was, dropping the moon on Zeltrech (Go read "Lunatique" for that story) and all of that. Once upon a time he had some good intentions when Gaia asked him to help with her human problem. He realized that humans weren't bad, they just needed someone to rule over them and make sure that they weren't violently retarded.

And he falls in love with a witch (in D canon it was heavily implied that Mina from "Dracula" was his mother) and they have this child together. This half Crimson Moon/Human child. Well, Crimson Moon teaches this really pretty half breed about honor and how the world should work. Then Crimson Moon becomes a crazy person and starts drinking blood and drops the moon on people.

However, his child, who decides to go by "D" got the positive parts of his upbringing and sees his dad and other Dead Apostles pretty much go nuts. So he starts hunting them and he's really good at it. He's also trying to deny his own vampiric urges too.

Then Zeltrech helps create Arcueid.

D is reminded of his father, and it doesn't help that Arc pretty much looks like a female version of Daddy be Crazy. He knows that she'll turn. It's inevitable, and he knows when she turns the world may pretty much be fucked. So he starts hunting her every time she's active.

Flash forward to Tsukhime time line. It could be after Arc's good end, Ciel's good end, or one of the Far Side endings, just as long as Arc doesn't go back to sleep in her castle right away. She's weakened though, and here comes her "brother" to kill her.

Then we have D with a phantasmal beast in his left hand (to explain Left Hand- let's say his mother grafted them together for a symbiotic relationship) and a really sharp sword versus a weakened and emotionally confused Arc.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on December 07, 2013, 11:11:46 PM
While I have nothing against Arc, I found the whole idea pretty hilarious, Elf!

I think you should write it when you have time.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Elf on December 08, 2013, 02:05:00 AM
While I have nothing against Arc, I found the whole idea pretty hilarious, Elf!

I think you should write it when you have time.

Well, it wouldn't be really played for laughs.  It would be more serious and grim dark.  And violent, very violent.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Mordalfus Grea on December 08, 2013, 03:02:57 AM
I am still hoping for a Hellsing x Type-Moon Series Crossover, so I came up with this crazy idea which features my [Cross Effects] version of Seras Victoria.

So what if Seras was transported from her world and time period, by the means of a cult wishing to vanquish the Vampiress of Hellsing via a Dark Ritual. So what if this ritual transported Seras from her world to another, but at the cost of her reality being erased and the cult ceasing to exist as a cost of their actions. So what if she was deposited in a comical fashion on top of Zelretch just as he is returning from his battle against Crimson Moon and after a discussion between the two, Seras follows Zelretch after she discovers through the help of Zelretch of her world ceasing to exist. She follows Zelretch back to the main reality TYPE-Moon reality and of course, Gaia is trying to remove Seras from 'her' domain.

Over the centuries, Seras would ascend to become the 12th of The Twenty-seven Dead Apostle Ancestors under the title of The Endless Lady Dracula for her ability to consume the souls of those she chooses to drain, her ability to call upon the souls of those she contained even manifesting bodies for said souls and due to the sheer amount of souls she contained within her to which she could sacrifice one of those souls to save her own from destruction.

Like Zelretch, Seras was an ally of humanity and had become a good friend of the master of the Kaleidoscope despite enduring endless hours of teasing from the man. Many Dead Apostles had of course sought her title and had attacked her on various occasions, the most notable was when she pulled an ALucard by summoning ALL of her souls forth to utterly crush the attacker.

Now as an Ally of Humanity and as a former hunter of the inhuman in her old reality, Seras had offered to not only dispense of some of this knowledge to both the Church's Executors and the Clocktower's Enforcers. Seras would go so far as to calling upon the souls of individuals that possessed the knowledge of this, individuals like Alexander Anderson and Walter C. Dornez to teach them various techniques. Seras' reputation for teaching grew to the point where she was offered to teach the Heiress of the Barthomeloi Family and Seras accepted, Seras would teach the Heiress not only how to slay the undead but also how to command like the late Sir Integra did.

The very presence of Seras Victoria Causes some subtle and not-so-subtle changes in the timeline to occur.

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A Fate-Series Multi-Series Crossover containing about Six or more series mixed into the Fate Storyline which beings with the months leading up to the Fourth Holy Grail War and finishes with the End of the Fifth Holy Grail War. Pretty Much a 10 Year storyline where shit goes crazy and Fuyuki becomes a centerpoint for craziness

Possible Crossover Series
- Ranma 1/2 [The Nerima Ward is replaced by Fuyuki City and unfortunately for the Tohsaka Family, the Nerima Wrecking Crew becomes the Fuyuki Wrecking Crew. The Events of Ranma 1/2 occur mainly during months leading up to and months after the end of 4th HGW]
- Bleach [Karakura Town is again replaced by Fuyuki City and Ichigo is the same age as Taiga, the Events of Bleach Series occurred at the same time as the 4th HGW]
- Lyrical Magical Girl Nanoha [Uminari City is again replaced by Fuyuki City, Rin and Shirou are in the same year and class as Nanoha and crew. The events of Season 1 occur six years before the 5th HGW. Poor Rin and Shirou, they get dragged into the mix as well]
- Cardcaptor Sakura [The Kinomoto and Daidouji Family live in Fuyuki instead, meanwhile Syaoran is an exchange student. They are all in the same year as and are the best friends of Sakura Matou, the events of Season 1 occur five years before the 5th HGW]
- Inuyasha [The Higurashi Family Shrine being located on the Traditional Side of Fuyuki City, the events of Inuyasha occur during the 4th HGW]
- Haruhi Suzumiya Series [Haruhi and Company live in Fuyuki, hiding the supernatural from a Mortal/God seeking out the supernatural just go harder. Set during the 5th HGW]

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Fate Zero x The Addams Family

What if Ryuunosuke Uryu's murderous rampage attracted the attention of a dark Family no magus ever wanted to encounter as they were choosing their vacation spot, so the dreaded Addams Family is off to Fuyuki City.

Short but to the point, the Addams Family. A Family that plays with explosives, sharp objects, death and worse on a daily basis. A Family where Halloween is their Christmas and Thanksgiving rolled into one, A family that could make the best of a deathmatch happening all around them.

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Fate Stay/Night x The Addams Family

What if shortly after implanting Avalon into Shirou's body, Kiritsugu keeled over right then and there but fortunately a couple dressed black happened to spot Shirou still clinging to life. The Couple who up till then had been enjoying their walk through the burning city, something their ancestors hadn't done since the sacking of Constantinople during the crusades or the sacking of Rome, decide right then and there to take the white haired boy back to America with them. There the boy, discovers his talent with blades and swords from his adoptive father who encourages him to expand upon it. Upon receiving his Command Seals, Shirou ventures back to Fuyuki but with his Family in tow and the madness of the Addams Family following close behind them. Shirou is enrolled at the local High School where he and his two siblings, there Shirou meets a girl by the name of Sakura Matou and sparks fly

Pairing: Dark! Addams! Shirou x Sakura; Shinji x Wednesday; Pugsley x [No Idea Yet];
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 15, 2013, 06:42:09 PM
Fate Zero x The Addams Family

What if Ryuunosuke Uryu's murderous rampage attracted the attention of a dark Family no magus ever wanted to encounter as they were choosing their vacation spot, so the dreaded Addams Family is off to Fuyuki City.

Short but to the point, the Addams Family. A Family that plays with explosives, sharp objects, death and worse on a daily basis. A Family where Halloween is their Christmas and Thanksgiving rolled into one, A family that could make the best of a deathmatch happening all around them.

Would they affect things much?

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Fate Stay/Night x The Addams Family

What if shortly after implanting Avalon into Shirou's body, Kiritsugu keeled over right then and there but fortunately a couple dressed black happened to spot Shirou still clinging to life. The Couple who up till then had been enjoying their walk through the burning city, something their ancestors hadn't done since the sacking of Constantinople during the crusades or the sacking of Rome, decide right then and there to take the white haired boy back to America with them. There the boy, discovers his talent with blades and swords from his adoptive father who encourages him to expand upon it. Upon receiving his Command Seals, Shirou ventures back to Fuyuki but with his Family in tow and the madness of the Addams Family following close behind them. Shirou is enrolled at the local High School where he and his two siblings, there Shirou meets a girl by the name of Sakura Matou and sparks fly

Pairing: Dark! Addams! Shirou x Sakura; Shinji x Wednesday; Pugsley x [No Idea Yet];

This is rather bizarre.

How would the Addams family handle Zouken etc.? I mean, IIRC they're the sort of people who would consider being thrown into a pit of rape-worms as a young child as good parenting....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on December 19, 2013, 10:12:01 PM
Okay, I'm going to ask a question that is bugging the hell out of me, namely in regards to how to mesh the anime Guilty Crown with the Nasuverse.

The plot of Guilty Crown is like this: In 2029, an event called Lost Christmas, which occurred because of the Apocalypse Virus biohazard on Christmas Eve, took place in Japan, which resulted in a tremendous amount of foreign aid being sent to the country to stabilize the country at the cost of its independence. Ten years later, a boy named Shu Ouma finds himself mixed up with the battle between the GHQ and the Funeral Parlor, the former a UN-affiliated group that's controlling the country in a vice-like grip, the latter a resistance cell aiming to free Japan, while possessing the power of the Guilty Crown (also known as "the King's Power", it is the power to draw out things called Voids, an idea given corporeal form, by analyzing entron(?) sequences within the human genome and converting them into such, all because of the Void Genome, which is derived from the Apocalypse Virus, that gets inserted into him).

Oh, by the way, the origin of the Apocalypse Virus? A meteor fragment.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 19, 2013, 10:26:49 PM
Well, the obvious issue I see there is the timeframe. In 2029 Shirou, Sakura etc. will be in their 40s.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on December 19, 2013, 10:33:27 PM
*ahem* As I mentioned to Cherry on Skype, I'm bumping the timeframe up for this, so that the Fourth War takes place in 2029.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 19, 2013, 10:37:31 PM
Hmm, how would this affect the main FSN timeline, then? Having this GHQ rule Japan would change things for them somewhat.

Also, would the Fourth War be before or after the virus?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on December 19, 2013, 11:00:14 PM
In reverse order:

The Fourth War would be before the virus, because, if I'm not mistaken, the war takes place in February or so, nominally. Lost Christmas is 12/24/2029.

What I had in mind for the events affecting the timeline of both Tsukihime and FSN would be how the different characters grow up. If, for instance, Shirou were to be hit with the virus, he'd be sent to a hospital to be treated, but then they'd notice that there's something wrong with his supposed condition (as in, because of Avalon, he's not sick).

Oh, about Kiritsugu, I don't think that Angra Mainyu would want to have something from outer space beat it out for killing off the retired Magus Killer.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 19, 2013, 11:24:21 PM
In reverse order:

The Fourth War would be before the virus, because, if I'm not mistaken, the war takes place in February or so, nominally. Lost Christmas is 12/24/2029.

Ah, OK.

So the fourth war would be as normal, then?

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What I had in mind for the events affecting the timeline of both Tsukihime and FSN would be how the different characters grow up. If, for instance, Shirou were to be hit with the virus, he'd be sent to a hospital to be treated, but then they'd notice that there's something wrong with his supposed condition (as in, because of Avalon, he's not sick).

Oh, about Kiritsugu, I don't think that Angra Mainyu would want to have something from outer space beat it out for killing off the retired Magus Killer.

Well, that would make some changes, but would there be anything more broad? Especially with regards to Sakura....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on December 19, 2013, 11:42:00 PM
1) Under normal crossover circumstances, yes.

However, because this is for Avalon Solutions, a shared setting I'm in the process of developing, it won't be the canon fourth war that leads up to Lost Christmas. It'll potentially be either better or worse, depending on the characters, like Kariya.

2) Still developing that part. I'm thinking that Zouken might not get out of his body in time to avoid the virus, but nothing seriously concrete has been developed yet, so... yeah.

Oh, the reason why Zouken bites it instead of Sakura is because a younger person has a stronger immune system, like a little kid would have the best immune system in the world... imagine how old the vampire is in comparison.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 19, 2013, 11:46:31 PM
1) Under normal crossover circumstances, yes.

However, because this is for Avalon Solutions, a shared setting I'm in the process of developing, it won't be the canon fourth war that leads up to Lost Christmas. It'll potentially be either better or worse, depending on the characters, like Kariya.

Hmm, how does it connect to that?

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2) Still developing that part. I'm thinking that Zouken might not get out of his body in time to avoid the virus, but nothing seriously concrete has been developed yet, so... yeah.

Oh, the reason why Zouken bites it instead of Sakura is because a younger person has a stronger immune system, like a little kid would have the best immune system in the world... imagine how old the vampire is in comparison.

Well, it depends how powerful the virus is. Zouken would perhaps have a weaker immune system, but he's also basically a lich, so killing him is probably not very easy....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on December 20, 2013, 12:03:00 AM
1) This story is part of the prequel cycle for the setting. As such, Road from Yesterday will introduce things from the setting's main sources, like how Avalon Solutions goes about fixing the problems in other worlds (and even includes the parts about the different supernatural powers and how they're supposed to mix together).

2) In the event of Zouken trying to avoid death, well, that becomes an epic fail (because Justica, having been freed from the prison in the Greater Grail set up by Angra Mainyu right after the Fourth War ended (I'm still working that part out), decides to pay him a "visit" in the form of a wraith that destroys his chance to bodyjack Sakura... before telling him she hates his guts for what he did in life).
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 20, 2013, 12:33:47 AM
1) This story is part of the prequel cycle for the setting. As such, Road from Yesterday will introduce things from the setting's main sources, like how Avalon Solutions goes about fixing the problems in other worlds (and even includes the parts about the different supernatural powers and how they're supposed to mix together).

I still don't get what you mean.

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2) In the event of Zouken trying to avoid death, well, that becomes an epic fail (because Justica, having been freed from the prison in the Greater Grail set up by Angra Mainyu right after the Fourth War ended (I'm still working that part out), decides to pay him a "visit" in the form of a wraith that destroys his chance to bodyjack Sakura... before telling him she hates his guts for what he did in life).

Ah, OK.

Well, in that case, where does Sakura end up?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on December 20, 2013, 01:37:24 AM
1) What I meant was, I'm building something of a stage for when the Avalon Solutions stories get started, setting up the headquarters in the Nasuverse and working on solving as many problems as possible (while having the characters to initially man the stations be introduced by that point in the timeline of the setting).

For example:

a) Shirou is one of the co-founders. He also is one of the chefs in the agency that prepares good food.  His mission preference? Any and all (though he gets overruled by the girls when he has to go somewhere with hot ladies).

b) Megumi (a genderbent SI of mine) is another of the co-founders. She's also the only legitimate Master from two Wars, having summoned Diarmuid in the Fourth War and Castko in the Fifth (no idea how yet), the latter sticking around in Avalon Solutions. Her mission preference? Anything that helps her become a guy again (though that's not what actually happens).

c) Sakura is the third of the co-founders. She's also recuperating from the events of the Fifth War, though that doesn't mean she can't be an action girl, it's just that she doesn't want to over-exert herself. Her mission preferences? Anything that involves saving little kids from abusive lives (including Harry Potter) as a priority.

2) Well, Kariya still lives after the Fourth War (though he avoids nearly killing Aoi due to a timely warning), so he takes over for Zouken in the decision making process (upon the vampire's death)... and gives Sakura his crest (the actual one) before giving her back to Aoi and Rin.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 20, 2013, 10:24:47 AM
1) What I meant was, I'm building something of a stage for when the Avalon Solutions stories get started, setting up the headquarters in the Nasuverse and working on solving as many problems as possible (while having the characters to initially man the stations be introduced by that point in the timeline of the setting).

Hmm, so you're intending to have this story be part of the backstory for Avalon Solutions?

Honestly, I think the base universe for it should be pure Nasuverse. Otherwise anyone who wants to write stuff for it needs to understand the crossover universe as well.

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a) Shirou is one of the co-founders. He also is one of the chefs in the agency that prepares good food.  His mission preference? Any and all (though he gets overruled by the girls when he has to go somewhere with hot ladies).

Yeah, he'd want to go everywhere. I don't think "hot ladies" would be what made them over-rule him, though, they're not that possessive.

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b) Megumi (a genderbent SI of mine) is another of the co-founders. She's also the only legitimate Master from two Wars, having summoned Diarmuid in the Fourth War and Castko in the Fifth (no idea how yet), the latter sticking around in Avalon Solutions. Her mission preference? Anything that helps her become a guy again (though that's not what actually happens).

I'm a bit wary of this, honestly. Is there a justification of why she's in both wars?

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c) Sakura is the third of the co-founders. She's also recuperating from the events of the Fifth War, though that doesn't mean she can't be an action girl, it's just that she doesn't want to over-exert herself.

What "events" do you mean? I thought you said she was free of Zouken prior to that point.

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Her mission preferences? Anything that involves saving little kids from abusive lives (including Harry Potter) as a priority.

Yeah, that figures, I think she would be very sympathetic of such kids (certainly my version is).

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2) Well, Kariya still lives after the Fourth War (though he avoids nearly killing Aoi due to a timely warning), so he takes over for Zouken in the decision making process (upon the vampire's death)... and gives Sakura his crest (the actual one) before giving her back to Aoi and Rin.

Ah, OK. So, she's back to being a Tohsaka? How does that affect the Fifth War?

Kariya doesn't have a crest, though, so I'm not sure what he's going to implant.

Also, transplanting a crest into someone is painful, and transplanting the crest of another family is basically impossible. Whilst Zouken is an uncaring bastard, even if he had genuinely cared about Sakura's well-being, he'd still probably have had to throw her to the worms or similar in order to make her part of the family and give her the crest. Even Rin is said to suffer quite a lot of pain from her crest, and it's her own family crest and her father genuinely does care for her.

I guess Sakura has been through a lot of the training already, but even so I would imagine the Matou crest would be somewhat painful for her.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on December 20, 2013, 06:59:15 PM
1) What I meant was, I'm building something of a stage for when the Avalon Solutions stories get started, setting up the headquarters in the Nasuverse and working on solving as many problems as possible (while having the characters to initially man the stations be introduced by that point in the timeline of the setting).

Hmm, so you're intending to have this story be part of the backstory for Avalon Solutions?

Honestly, I think the base universe for it should be pure Nasuverse. Otherwise anyone who wants to write stuff for it needs to understand the crossover universe as well.

I can understand where you're coming from with this. Honestly, if the events of Guilty Crown took place before the formation of Avalon Solutions, then it'd be a problem on my end to figure out how to explain the crossover universe without it being too complicated of an explanation.

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a) Shirou is one of the co-founders. He also is one of the chefs in the agency that prepares good food.  His mission preference? Any and all (though he gets overruled by the girls when he has to go somewhere with hot ladies).

Yeah, he'd want to go everywhere. I don't think "hot ladies" would be what made them over-rule him, though, they're not that possessive.

You'd be surprised by how much they want him to avoid... er, knocking up girls... to solve problems, and the hotter ones tend to pose a problem for his willpower.

Okay, that aside, he's a bit dense in regards to how the girls want to keep him away from places like the Dead or Alive world (especially if it's the Xtreme part of the setting). For instance, they don't want him to get STIs and inadvertently kill the rest of the Fate side of the agency (don't know yet how STIs work in regards to the scabbard Avalon), and they don't want him to be forced to stay in one world for far too long (he'd die in that regard).

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b) Megumi (a genderbent SI of mine) is another of the co-founders. She's also the only legitimate Master from two Wars, having summoned Diarmuid in the Fourth War and Castko in the Fifth (no idea how yet), the latter sticking around in Avalon Solutions. Her mission preference? Anything that helps her become a guy again (though that's not what actually happens).

I'm a bit wary of this, honestly. Is there a justification of why she's in both wars?

Fourth War has her summoning because of being attacked by a group of thugs (the Grail chose her at the time) while walking home with a piece of Diarmuid's equipment (part of one of his spears). Fifth War has her summoning intentionally (Grail still chose her prior) with one of the rocks that kept Tamamo no Mae sealed up (she didn't know it was one of those catalysts that normally doesn't work... divine intervention from alternate realities really does suck).

Yes, the original Master of Assassin will be in the war, before you ask.

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c) Sakura is the third of the co-founders. She's also recuperating from the events of the Fifth War, though that doesn't mean she can't be an action girl, it's just that she doesn't want to over-exert herself.

What "events" do you mean? I thought you said she was free of Zouken prior to that point.

She is free of him. It's more like something else happened that nearly kills her (keep in mind that she lives), only for some form of Plot Armor keeping her alive, to be fair... though she'll need to recover from the use of said Plot Armor.

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Her mission preferences? Anything that involves saving little kids from abusive lives (including Harry Potter) as a priority.

Yeah, that figures, I think she would be very sympathetic of such kids (certainly my version is).

Indeed.

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2) Well, Kariya still lives after the Fourth War (though he avoids nearly killing Aoi due to a timely warning), so he takes over for Zouken in the decision making process (upon the vampire's death)... and gives Sakura his crest (the actual one) before giving her back to Aoi and Rin.

Ah, OK. So, she's back to being a Tohsaka? How does that affect the Fifth War?

Kariya doesn't have a crest, though, so I'm not sure what he's going to implant.

Also, transplanting a crest into someone is painful, and transplanting the crest of another family is basically impossible. Whilst Zouken is an uncaring bastard, even if he had genuinely cared about Sakura's well-being, he'd still probably have had to throw her to the worms or similar in order to make her part of the family and give her the crest. Even Rin is said to suffer quite a lot of pain from her crest, and it's her own family crest and her father genuinely does care for her.

I guess Sakura has been through a lot of the training already, but even so I would imagine the Matou crest would be somewhat painful for her.

*ahem* I'm still thinking on how it'll affect the Fifth War. I just know that it will.

Who said it would be from Kariya? It would be from Zouken.

I'm thinking that, while she's Tokiomi and Aoi's daughter, she's also been made a Matou in all but blood and genetics. That's the only way I can think of that can allow for her to get the crest. Of course, even though Zouken didn't mean for that to happen, he had made Sakura the heir to the Makiri the moment she set foot in the door to his house.

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Any questions you want to ask?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 20, 2013, 11:32:45 PM
I can understand where you're coming from with this. Honestly, if the events of Guilty Crown took place before the formation of Avalon Solutions, then it'd be a problem on my end to figure out how to explain the crossover universe without it being too complicated of an explanation.

Honestly, I think it's just not a good idea to make the backstory a crossover, especially not when I see little necessity for it. It just makes it really difficult for those of us who don't know Guilty Crown to really understand the setting, which makes it hard for us to write for it.

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You'd be surprised by how much they want him to avoid... er, knocking up girls... to solve problems, and the hotter ones tend to pose a problem for his willpower.

Yeah, I really don't like that attitude. He has free will, he's capable of not fucking every hot girl he meets. And, if he wasn't, he'd have already fucked the girls at home anyway.

Plus, this is Shirou we're talking about. He tends to be pretty oblivious when it comes to sex. I really don't see him as someone who would just start fucking random girls like that.

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Okay, that aside, he's a bit dense in regards to how the girls want to keep him away from places like the Dead or Alive world (especially if it's the Xtreme part of the setting). For instance, they don't want him to get STIs and inadvertently kill the rest of the Fate side of the agency (don't know yet how STIs work in regards to the scabbard Avalon), and they don't want him to be forced to stay in one world for far too long (he'd die in that regard).

Shirou isn't a slut, though, he's not going to go fucking every girl he meets.

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Fourth War has her summoning because of being attacked by a group of thugs (the Grail chose her at the time) while walking home with a piece of Diarmuid's equipment (part of one of his spears). Fifth War has her summoning intentionally (Grail still chose her prior) with one of the rocks that kept Tamamo no Mae sealed up (she didn't know it was one of those catalysts that normally doesn't work... divine intervention from alternate realities really does suck).

Yes, the original Master of Assassin will be in the war, before you ask.

Yeah, I'm a bit worried about this. Is there a reason for her being there? Self-insert characters are always rather dubious....

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c) Sakura is the third of the co-founders. She's also recuperating from the events of the Fifth War, though that doesn't mean she can't be an action girl, it's just that she doesn't want to over-exert herself.

What "events" do you mean? I thought you said she was free of Zouken prior to that point.

She is free of him. It's more like something else happened that nearly kills her (keep in mind that she lives), only for some form of Plot Armor keeping her alive, to be fair... though she'll need to recover from the use of said Plot Armor.[/quote]

How would that happen, though? She's free of Zouken and back with Rin, she is in far less danger in this timeline.

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*ahem* I'm still thinking on how it'll affect the Fifth War. I just know that it will.

Well, it would be a massive change. She and Rin would acknowledge each other as family, which means they're unlikely to be out to fight each other unless Sakura has something to prove.

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Who said it would be from Kariya? It would be from Zouken.

But Zouken is dead at this point, so the one who decides to implant it has to be Kariya.

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I'm thinking that, while she's Tokiomi and Aoi's daughter, she's also been made a Matou in all but blood and genetics. That's the only way I can think of that can allow for her to get the crest. Of course, even though Zouken didn't mean for that to happen, he had made Sakura the heir to the Makiri the moment she set foot in the door to his house.

It's a biological compatibility thing, though, not a matter of definition. Calling her a Matou doesn't make her able to inherit the crest.

Having said that, the "training" Zouken put her through would make her a Matou to at least some extent, so it is possible for her to inherit the crest. I suspect it would be rather painful, though.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on December 21, 2013, 12:54:33 AM
I can understand where you're coming from with this. Honestly, if the events of Guilty Crown took place before the formation of Avalon Solutions, then it'd be a problem on my end to figure out how to explain the crossover universe without it being too complicated of an explanation.

Honestly, I think it's just not a good idea to make the backstory a crossover, especially not when I see little necessity for it. It just makes it really difficult for those of us who don't know Guilty Crown to really understand the setting, which makes it hard for us to write for it.

This is where one of two things would happen on my end: 1) It becomes a simpler Nasu-based story, or 2) I make things easier to explain on the Guilty Crown side of things.

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You'd be surprised by how much they want him to avoid... er, knocking up girls... to solve problems, and the hotter ones tend to pose a problem for his willpower.

Yeah, I really don't like that attitude. He has free will, he's capable of not fucking every hot girl he meets. And, if he wasn't, he'd have already fucked the girls at home anyway.

Plus, this is Shirou we're talking about. He tends to be pretty oblivious when it comes to sex. I really don't see him as someone who would just start fucking random girls like that.

Which reminds me... I still haven't beaten F/sN yet to know Shirou as a person. This sucks.

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Okay, that aside, he's a bit dense in regards to how the girls want to keep him away from places like the Dead or Alive world (especially if it's the Xtreme part of the setting). For instance, they don't want him to get STIs and inadvertently kill the rest of the Fate side of the agency (don't know yet how STIs work in regards to the scabbard Avalon), and they don't want him to be forced to stay in one world for far too long (he'd die in that regard).

Shirou isn't a slut, though, he's not going to go fucking every girl he meets.

I realize that now.

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Fourth War has her summoning because of being attacked by a group of thugs (the Grail chose her at the time) while walking home with a piece of Diarmuid's equipment (part of one of his spears). Fifth War has her summoning intentionally (Grail still chose her prior) with one of the rocks that kept Tamamo no Mae sealed up (she didn't know it was one of those catalysts that normally doesn't work... divine intervention from alternate realities really does suck).

Yes, the original Master of Assassin will be in the war, before you ask.

Yeah, I'm a bit worried about this. Is there a reason for her being there? Self-insert characters are always rather dubious....

Is there a reason for being born?

...okay, on a more serious note, she's there to assist in purifying the Grail before the agency gets formed. She just sticks around because she doesn't know how to go back home (yet).

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c) Sakura is the third of the co-founders. She's also recuperating from the events of the Fifth War, though that doesn't mean she can't be an action girl, it's just that she doesn't want to over-exert herself.

What "events" do you mean? I thought you said she was free of Zouken prior to that point.

She is free of him. It's more like something else happened that nearly kills her (keep in mind that she lives), only for some form of Plot Armor keeping her alive, to be fair... though she'll need to recover from the use of said Plot Armor.

How would that happen, though? She's free of Zouken and back with Rin, she is in far less danger in this timeline.

To be honest, it's more like a bunch of magecraft-aware thugs try getting at her real family through her, but that doesn't work in their benefit... and it's how she manages to summon Medusa as Rider in this timeline.

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*ahem* I'm still thinking on how it'll affect the Fifth War. I just know that it will.

Well, it would be a massive change. She and Rin would acknowledge each other as family, which means they're unlikely to be out to fight each other unless Sakura has something to prove.

I'm still working out the kinks in the idea... just give me time on it.

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Who said it would be from Kariya? It would be from Zouken.

But Zouken is dead at this point, so the one who decides to implant it has to be Kariya.

I meant, the crest itself would be harvested from Zouken's body, but Kariya doesn't want it for himself.

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I'm thinking that, while she's Tokiomi and Aoi's daughter, she's also been made a Matou in all but blood and genetics. That's the only way I can think of that can allow for her to get the crest. Of course, even though Zouken didn't mean for that to happen, he had made Sakura the heir to the Makiri the moment she set foot in the door to his house.

It's a biological compatibility thing, though, not a matter of definition. Calling her a Matou doesn't make her able to inherit the crest.

Having said that, the "training" Zouken put her through would make her a Matou to at least some extent, so it is possible for her to inherit the crest. I suspect it would be rather painful, though.

Yeah... that's what I was thinking (what you said at the end).
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on December 21, 2013, 01:23:37 AM
This is where one of two things would happen on my end: 1) It becomes a simpler Nasu-based story, or 2) I make things easier to explain on the Guilty Crown side of things.

The thing is, though, even if you explain Guilty Crown, you're still forcing anyone who uses the setting to include elements from it whether or not they care about it. It might be OK if all you're doing is using Guilty Crown to set up the backstory and don't include anything from it in the story itself, but if people writing in the universe are going to need an understanding of and interest in Guilty Crown to do so then it's a problem.

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Which reminds me... I still haven't beaten F/sN yet to know Shirou as a person. This sucks.

Yeah, that might be a good plan....

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Is there a reason for being born?

No, but characters aren't real people. They only exist if you make them, so it is entirely reasonable to ask why they are there....

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...okay, on a more serious note, she's there to assist in purifying the Grail before the agency gets formed. She just sticks around because she doesn't know how to go back home (yet).

Ah, I see, so you need her to justify purifying the Grail?

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To be honest, it's more like a bunch of magecraft-aware thugs try getting at her real family through her, but that doesn't work in their benefit... and it's how she manages to summon Medusa as Rider in this timeline.

Wouldn't Rin just beat the shit out of anyone who tried that?

In a universe like this I would expect Rin to be extremely protective of Sakura, since she would surely know that she'd suffered a lot in her time with the Matou family. Sakura might not necessarily want to be protected all the time, but I don't see Rin as being willing to let her sister suffer again.

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I meant, the crest itself would be harvested from Zouken's body, but Kariya doesn't want it for himself.

Sure, that doesn't automatically mean he'd give it to Sakura, though. He'd only do that if he thought it was in her interests. And, really, Kariya isn't a magus, so he's unlikely to see pain as an acceptable trade-off for getting a crest.

It's possible, though, that Tokiomi might convince him, if they come to terms somehow.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Kat on February 20, 2015, 01:30:31 PM
So given Second Holy Grail War happened in 1860s, Bakumatsu era crossover with Gintama might happen. But warning is that if I get around to write it mechanics will be most likely revolving over Gintama's spiritual world. As things like non-Type aliens are a common sight it's clear Nasuverse rules cannot apply. There are heroic spirits referenced in both settings, though, in Stand arc where Nobunaga, Mitsuhide and Hideyoshi were called the same term as used in Nasuverse.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on February 20, 2015, 05:27:11 PM
Huh... that sounds interesting. Perhaps you should write it out?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Kat on February 20, 2015, 07:35:53 PM
Maybe. Maybe not. I don't have much time to spare recently.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on February 21, 2015, 01:28:41 AM
I see what you mean... work-related, I guess, right?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Kat on February 21, 2015, 10:44:59 AM
Work alone would not be the issue, but exams are.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on February 21, 2015, 05:51:47 PM
Ah... it's times like this when I'm glad I'm not in school any longer.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Kat on February 21, 2015, 08:10:55 PM
Postgraduate studies.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on February 21, 2015, 10:58:35 PM
Oh... ouch.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Kat on February 23, 2015, 05:33:53 PM
I secured a good beta, at least.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Xamusel on February 23, 2015, 11:38:31 PM
That's good, at least, Kat.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 12, 2015, 03:22:15 AM
A horrible idea that haunts me my every waking moment. What if Shirou's servant was Kamen Rider Gaim instead of Artoria?

Not much is probably going to change storywise but the character dynamics would be hilarious. Gaim wouldn't be able to go above jimber because it would severely drain his master. His powers from the golden fruit would be mostly sealed by the Holy Grail. Archer would be stupefied when he learns what Gaim fought against as a hero and even more when he realizes Gaim comes from a children's show. And ofcourse who can forget? Gate of Babylon vs Fruits of Helheim.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 12, 2015, 10:50:07 PM
OK, well, I have absolutely no knowledge about Kamen Rider, so I can't really comment on this very much. What would his reaction to Sakura be, though, or to Zouken?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 13, 2015, 12:18:13 AM
Well as your bog standard hero, he definitely will save Sakura. His heroics go into naivety overdrive though because he doesn't believe in saving people by sacrificing others. Rather that's what he had been fighting against this whole time, the notion that you have to sacrifice someone to save another. As for Zouken, he would probably try to see some good in the old man, something to give him a reason not to kill Zouken until he realizes the Matou ancestor is nothing more than just a mass of negative emotions.

Gaim would definitely have the power to destroy the worms in Sakura's body, but likely her physiology would've been altered to be dependent on the crest worms so she'd die without them. Either way, if Gaim attempted to save her by removal of the worms, she'd likely lose her humanity anyway despite retaining her sense of self.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 13, 2015, 03:41:59 AM
Well as your bog standard hero, he definitely will save Sakura. His heroics go into naivety overdrive though because he doesn't believe in saving people by sacrificing others. Rather that's what he had been fighting against this whole time, the notion that you have to sacrifice someone to save another. As for Zouken, he would probably try to see some good in the old man, something to give him a reason not to kill Zouken until he realizes the Matou ancestor is nothing more than just a mass of negative emotions.

Well, yeah, Zouken is unsalvagable, really. But, it sounds like he'd definitely try to help Sakura if he found out the truth.

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Gaim would definitely have the power to destroy the worms in Sakura's body, but likely her physiology would've been altered to be dependent on the crest worms so she'd die without them. Either way, if Gaim attempted to save her by removal of the worms, she'd likely lose her humanity anyway despite retaining her sense of self.

This isn't true, she survives without them just fine post-HF. And, I see no reason why Sakura would lose her humanity just because someone removed the worms....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 13, 2015, 08:21:51 AM
Oh, my bad. I thought just killing the worms would end up with her dead too. What did it need to remove all the worms again? I think it was surgery by Kirei?

Gaim has 2 possible methods at his disposal to kill all the worms inside Sakura. The first is letting Sakura breathe Helheim spores which have unbelievable growth capabilities, taking root even in living flesh to bloom. They can go from spore to flower in less than a few minutes. Despite being in full control of anything residing in Helheim, Gaim can probably guide the spores directly to the worms, grow on them then consume them fully before breaking down into base components. However because of the Grail limiting Gaim's abilities, he can't do this safely. The second method is to feed Sakura Helheim fruit which will force an evolutionary response in her body, basically mutating her, but Gaim can likely still help her control the changes so she won't become something monstrous. And the second path is the safer one  :(

Best case scenario, Gaim can somehow override the restrictions of the grail and regain his fullpowers. By that point he can probably just will the worms to die and completely restore Sakura's body down to pre-modification.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 13, 2015, 03:31:57 PM
Oh, my bad. I thought just killing the worms would end up with her dead too. What did it need to remove all the worms again? I think it was surgery by Kirei?

Kirei removed most of them, but the one in her heart was too close for him to take it out without killing her. However, the issue with removing them is how closely entwined with her nerves and organs they are, not that she actually needs them to live.

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Gaim has 2 possible methods at his disposal to kill all the worms inside Sakura. The first is letting Sakura breathe Helheim spores which have unbelievable growth capabilities, taking root even in living flesh to bloom. They can go from spore to flower in less than a few minutes. Despite being in full control of anything residing in Helheim, Gaim can probably guide the spores directly to the worms, grow on them then consume them fully before breaking down into base components. However because of the Grail limiting Gaim's abilities, he can't do this safely. The second method is to feed Sakura Helheim fruit which will force an evolutionary response in her body, basically mutating her, but Gaim can likely still help her control the changes so she won't become something monstrous. And the second path is the safer one  :(

Well, the first sounds like it might be somewhat dangerous, yeah. Even if they were growing only on the worms, those worms are filling spaces between her organs and nerves, so there's not really much space for a flower to grow. The second likely would work, but would be potentially very harmful, from the sounds of it.

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Best case scenario, Gaim can somehow override the restrictions of the grail and regain his fullpowers. By that point he can probably just will the worms to die and completely restore Sakura's body down to pre-modification.

Yeah, that would work....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 13, 2015, 03:59:27 PM
 :-X I'm just working with what is in either series. Honestly if you want to blame anyone about the last one then blame Urobuchi. He's the one who wrote the end scenario of giving the hero absurd gary-stu powers XD

Either way the grail system is foolproof isn't it?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 14, 2015, 12:05:12 PM
What do you mean?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 14, 2015, 02:44:45 PM
Kamen rider Gaim was written by Gen Urobuchi. He decided to make it a free for all between kamen riders for literal godhood. Gaim won. So it's post series Gaim who is a god. But with the grail, his godhood is sealed. Unless he can bypass that protocol he's pretty limited.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 17, 2015, 02:39:05 AM
Ah, I see. And, well, I'd certainly like him to have the ability to help Sakura, although I guess that outright godhood would not make for a very interesting story....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 17, 2015, 08:16:31 AM
No it wouldn't :|

It would make for hilarity though when Gil finally decides to unleash Enma Elish completely and Gaim regains his full power just in time to undo the dimensional rip. Gil's face after that would be all sorts of funny.

For a serious crossover:

Final Fantasy Tactics X Fate Stay Night

During Tohsaka Rin's preparation for the 5th Holy Grail War, she had been stocking up on gems for her magecraft for the better half of her life. One day, while shopping for gems, she heard a rumor of of a set of 13 crystals being auctioned. They were apparently large as stone yet beautiful as jewelry. More rumors floated around that the stones were innately magical, each having a different color and symbol of the zodiac. This piqued Rin's interest so she joined the auction just for that set of gems. She bought the set surprisingly cheap. She had her heart set on emptying her pockets the moment she saw them presented to the bidders. However, suprisingly nobody wanted them. She only had to bid against someone once and that only upped her initial offer by 10,000 yen. It was after that she learned of the dark rumors circulating about the stones being cursed as everyone who previously owned them died a gruesome macabre death as it usually entailed their entrails being scooped out.

Rin ignored those warnings ofcourse and brought the stones back to her home to experiment with her magecraft. They had turned up to be inactive with her magic and through many failures, she ended up throwing the stones into the trash in her anger. However, she had missed one stone, the one marked with the zodiac sign of Virgo.

Months pass and Tohsaka is to summon her servant. When she performs her summon, it is unwittingly in the presence of the Virgo stone. Though she uses her own gem as a catalyst, things go out of her control very quickly. Her summon sparks and sputters before a dread chill fills the room. It vanishes as quickly when a loud crash can be heard above in the attic. When Rin goes to check what happened, she is surprised to find herself faced with a blonde woman armed to the teeth with a bow, crossbow, and sword resting against noble blue clothes and thick leather armor under a metal breastplate. The woman introduces herself as the servant Archer, true name Agrias Oaks.

Rin eventually figures out that Agrias is not of their world which should be impossible because of the way the throne of heroes works. But when she is asked to recount if there had been any strange things going on, Rin tells her servant the only strange thing she had in her house was a set of fake magic stones inscribed with the zodiac. Agrias reacts violently to this and scours the room where the summoning took place until she find the Virgo stone. Agrias explains that the stone was a holy stone from her world that was pure power with a fair bit of self sentience. It would be inert to anyone it did not resonate with. However, the stone was also a gateway for demons known as Lucavi whose goal was to summon a great devil, Ultima. Agrias asks where the rest of the stones are and Rin pales as she says that she threw them out. Agrias is innerved as Lucavi can be summoned by someone with an impure enough heart and restart the preparations of summoning Ultima once again. Rin then remembers about the gruesome murders and is informed by Agrias that such bloodshed is needed for the summoning of Ultima. Double bad as now Rin realizes that demons are running around killing people to power their demon god summoning while servant are killing people to power their own mana reserves and a the same time the demon summoning.

Life was just great for Tohsaka Rin don't you think?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 18, 2015, 09:09:42 PM
Hmm, I see. Sounds like it could be interesting.

What would happen with Sakura here, then? Would she end up with one of the stones? Actually, who does have it?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 18, 2015, 11:48:36 PM
Well I haven't the faintest clue who would get them. A lucavi summoning usually entails permanently possessing the summoner and outright killing him effect as the lucavi pretty much wears their skin.

If something were to happen regarding Sakura, I would imagine that she would undergo her Heaven's Feel transformation. Maybe have Shinji get a stone, turn him into a Lucavi and Sakura goes full on lesser grail then kills him. In Heaven's Feel, it seemed like Sakura was kind of insane with a plan, here she would just be plain insane. Partially anyway.

How I would imagine Gaim as a servant.

Servant Saber

Name: Gaim

True name: Kazuraba Kouta

Alias: Gaku Sano

Appearance: A young man wearimg a blue hoody with an orange armored samurai printed on the back. He has short black hair and brown black eyes.

Personality: Friendly and self-aware, Kouta is a very kind and forgiving person who hates conflict but has the determination enough to fight so others don't have to suffer. He is impulsive but has a fair amount of restraint especially when it comes to thinga related to battle. His outlook is very mature but his small wish makes him seem like a child.

Origins: Kouta is Kamen Rider Gaim, a fictional children's superhero from TV following a long list of predecessors spanning almost 50 years. He is known nationwide in Japan and in some other parts of the world, generally asia and north america. Under normal circumstances a fictional hero like Gaim should not exist however the story of Gaim is anchored heavily into the world by the fact he was played by an actual living person. This makes Gaim variably human and legitimate for summoning. The version of Kouta summoned is already the one at the chronological end of his story where he becomes a god of a new world. However he is not a true divine spirit as he is a fictional hero.

Parameters: Due to his status as a fictional hero, Gaim gains a rank down to all of his parameters.

Strength: E

Endurance : E

Agility: D

Mana: A

Luck: D

Noble Phantasm: EX

Class skills:
Riding: A

Magic resistance: B
- any spell less than a ten count aria won't affect him.

Personal skills:
Acrobatics: B
-In life, the actor that played Gaim had fair skills in acrobatics increasing his agility parameters by 1 rank.

Dancing: C
- In his lore Kouta was a former street dancer and has quite the talent for moving the crowd. He is proficient in modern hiphop and breakdancing.

Swordsmanship: C
- Kouta is a self-taught swordsman. Going with what works instead of following any real form or doctrine. Though he is proficient enough to make use of his raw power and match those with greater experience, he does not have the same proficiency as his fellow swordsman(Zangetsu)  to match and even overwhelm an enemy many times his own strength.

Healing Factor: E++
- Heals more quickly than most humans. When dealing with lethal wounds, his regenerative abilities can go into overdrive and save him from death. Sometimes even recovering him to the point of combat ready or fully restored.

Noble Phantasm:
Helheim: The forest that spurs conflict and evolution -- EX; anti-world
- As an overlord, Kouta can open dimensional rips called cracks to an alternate world known as helheim. Helheim is inhabited by a forest that grows without limit in terma of speed, habitat and size, capable of turning an urbanized world like earth into a jungle in a matter of years even with resistance. Kouta can manipulate these plants to attack or defend for him. The spores of these plants are easily spread and can grow practically anywhere? Even flesh. Fruits from this plant mutate anything that eats them and turns them into monsters known as Inves. Those inves who retain their sentience and gain the power to control the forest are known as overlords. Kouta can also control inves but not fellow overlords.

Henshin~ the miraculous transformation; sengoku driver and lockseeds -- EX; support
- transformative gear that Kouta uses to achieve his combat forms.
- orange arms~ take the spotlight! On stage: grants Kouta his basic armor and increases his strength, endurance and agility by two ranks.
- Kachidoki arms! ~ shutsuji! Ei! Ei! Ou!: Kouta's penultimate armor granting him access to his battleflags, katana-gun and a massive cannon-sword that can fire energy in multiple ways. This grants a massive four ranks and an active plus modifier boost to all of Gaim's parameters. Except for agility which only gains two ranks and no modifiers.
- kiwami arms! ~ Shutsuji! Dai-dai-dai-dai-dai-shogun!: the ultimate form of Kouta granting all the weapons of his previous forms in any number along with some others. He can wield them with higher output than their original counterparts in combination or even control them telekinetically. This form increases all of Kouta's parameters by two ranks and grants an active double plus modifier.

Quirks:
- as a servant that was summoned with an embodiment, Kouta has two sets of memories that barely mesh well together. Kind of like one person acknowledging two separate lives he had not known until recently. He is essentially both Gaku Sano and Kazuraba Kouta at the same time.
- as a servant with a base using a living person from the same time period, the world is much more forgiving to this phantasmal construct and puts barely any resistance in crushing it as it resembles an existence which should exist. This means it is more mana efficient to keep Kouta in a physical state than spirit form because spirit form would be regarded as more alien and prioritized for destruction costing more mana to resist.
- Kouta has a stronger signature as a human than as a servant making him impossible to find with a servant's senses. They would detect an average class mage rather than a servant. This allows him to mingle with the humans with almost no distinction. He still looks like the actor that played him though so some people would recognize him.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 22, 2015, 04:10:23 AM
Well I haven't the faintest clue who would get them. A lucavi summoning usually entails permanently possessing the summoner and outright killing him effect as the lucavi pretty much wears their skin.

Oh, I see....

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If something were to happen regarding Sakura, I would imagine that she would undergo her Heaven's Feel transformation. Maybe have Shinji get a stone, turn him into a Lucavi and Sakura goes full on lesser grail then kills him. In Heaven's Feel, it seemed like Sakura was kind of insane with a plan, here she would just be plain insane. Partially anyway.

Sakura doesn't turn Dark quite that easily, though. You'd need more than that to make it happen. That also doesn't sound like a particularly great situation for her....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 22, 2015, 11:40:38 AM
It would be interesting to see the Lucavi try to take over Sakura. Considering the greater grail probably watches over her as the ideal vessel at the time...

So she'd kill Shinji after he turns Lucavi. Sakura takes the holy stone by instinct, believing she could justify self-defense by showing it to people that it turned Shinji into a monster she had to kill. Meeting with Zouken who is less than disappointed with her killing Shinji nudges her psychologically. She locks herself in her room rationalizing herself. Thinking maybe if she acted like it never happened then it would be fine. But the voice of the lucavi speak through the stone. It pierces through the veil of deceit she put over her heart. It exposes all her secrets and gleefully watches her break apart enough to wish it would take her place. The grail does not allow it and fights back, telling Sakura that her purpose is set. This just puts her further on edge. When Rider returns to her and Zouken realizes Sakura is practically withdrawing from the war, he takes measures to force her into battle, starting by killibg the weakest master; Emiya. That just breaks Sakura and the holy stone begins to react and the grail follows suit. She becomes possessed by the Lucavi but not to the point of destroying her as the grail has taken root in her as all the world's evils. The powers clash violently but they compliment each other giving Sakura more than enough power to annihilate Zouken. The grail wishes to be born but so do the lucavi wish for Ultima's return. The two wishes gnaw away at Sakura who is already frazzled and she pushes their plans away. All she wants is a place to belong so she begins to look for people to accept her, all of her.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 24, 2015, 04:18:07 PM
What do you mean, "people to accept her"?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 25, 2015, 12:09:49 AM
The status quo just before the events of the war has always been Sakura hiding away the truth of herself, terrified no one would like her/accept her if they knew the truth about her. This time instead of her problems, her sufferings and her sins being something she treats as having never existed; they mount up into something she can't control. She wants to be able to confide in someone- family, friend, lover. Something that Rider can only partially fulfill. She wants to be able to confide in someone who won't shun her as dirty or a monster.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 25, 2015, 03:36:52 PM
Well, the problem is that the only family and friends she has are Rin and Shirou (maybe Taiga, I guess, but she's a normal person). I mean, she could confide in them easily enough and they would accept her (Shirou especially), but she generally lacks the self-confidence to do so.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 27, 2015, 02:24:25 AM
There's also the problem of her not being able to control the warring powers of the grail and lucavi inside of her. Though she isn't possessed by either; they kind of start causing all these wierd paranormal effects like demons spawning around her. And she just seems to not care about any of that in her fragile mental state at that time.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 27, 2015, 06:03:11 PM
Hmm, I see.

Well, what would her overall role in the story be, then? Would she be treated sympathetically, or just as some villain to be put down?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 28, 2015, 01:44:35 AM
It's actually a mix. I mean she isn't in control of the phenomena but her denial of everything is basically making everything worse. Though Rin is capable of saying she'd kill her sister for the greater good, Agrias is a noble knight through and through. She would actually exhaust all options before resorting to killing Sakura.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 28, 2015, 03:36:44 AM
Hmm, and is there another option available...?

Also, as much as Rin blusters about killing Sakura for the "greater good", it's not something she's very good at doing. So, I doubt there would be much resistance on her part....
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 28, 2015, 05:21:59 AM
Generic force themselves to save her via deus ex machina BS miracle.

They can also kill her but Agrias informs a devastated Rin that in the past the holy stone had been shown to resurrect the dead when prayed to. However the circumstances that allowed for a perfect resuscitation were rather... unclear to say the least because in every other case all the stone had done was turn people into skins for Lucavi demons. So Rin is faced with either leaving her sister dead or risking everything on the holy stone that had been inhabiting Sakura's body.

It is to be noted that Agrias had only witnessed a clean resurrection only once. All the others were just demon revivals.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 31, 2015, 01:26:49 AM
Generic force themselves to save her via deus ex machina BS miracle.

They can also kill her but Agrias informs a devastated Rin that in the past the holy stone had been shown to resurrect the dead when prayed to. However the circumstances that allowed for a perfect resuscitation were rather... unclear to say the least because in every other case all the stone had done was turn people into skins for Lucavi demons. So Rin is faced with either leaving her sister dead or risking everything on the holy stone that had been inhabiting Sakura's body.

It is to be noted that Agrias had only witnessed a clean resurrection only once. All the others were just demon revivals.

Hmm, right, and would they attempt the resurrection in that case, and would it work...?
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: demino_hellsin on March 31, 2015, 10:29:28 AM
Personally I think it could go either way. Ofcourse everyone wants the happy ending so Rin would try and succeed. The pragmatic thing to do would be to not do it at all, this is the route I would support because of the multitude of risks. Worst case scenario is Rin tries, fails, then Agrias cuts down the Lucavi that had taken Rin over.

Or we could go completely Nasu level weirdness and demonstrate that Rin actually has affinity for the second magic by showcasing a spell she had prepared for the longest time as her trump card for the war. Which is fragmenting the future into multiple segments to represent routes or possible futures. All she would have to do is find the future she wants and take it. But the risks involved are also high with the rewards extremely low. She can only use the spell once since it's kind of like a preloaded one use spell. The future she picks can only be a possible future within the next sixty seconds. Her mana will be the only tether she has to her original timeline and it is cut loose or disappears because she ran out of prana then she'll be doomed to wander the multiverse or randomly end up in an alternate future.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on March 31, 2015, 05:11:59 PM
Personally I think it could go either way. Ofcourse everyone wants the happy ending so Rin would try and succeed. The pragmatic thing to do would be to not do it at all, this is the route I would support because of the multitude of risks. Worst case scenario is Rin tries, fails, then Agrias cuts down the Lucavi that had taken Rin over.

Just murdering Sakura and leaving her dead is a horrible ending, though, and shows that they are absolutely not heroes in any way, shape or form....

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Or we could go completely Nasu level weirdness and demonstrate that Rin actually has affinity for the second magic by showcasing a spell she had prepared for the longest time as her trump card for the war. Which is fragmenting the future into multiple segments to represent routes or possible futures. All she would have to do is find the future she wants and take it. But the risks involved are also high with the rewards extremely low. She can only use the spell once since it's kind of like a preloaded one use spell. The future she picks can only be a possible future within the next sixty seconds. Her mana will be the only tether she has to her original timeline and it is cut loose or disappears because she ran out of prana then she'll be doomed to wander the multiverse or randomly end up in an alternate future.

Hmm, possibly....

I'm not sure pre-war Rin would be able to make such a spell, though.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Kat on February 04, 2016, 01:51:15 PM
I wish we had a honest to God Star Wars x Fate crossover fic instead of that shit called Saber Wars.
Title: Re: Crossover ideas thread
Post by: Cherry Lover on February 04, 2016, 04:08:52 PM
It would be an interesting concept, yeah. There are a bunch of ways you could fit FSN's story and characters into the Star Wars universe and make it work.