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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2013, 09:59:50 PM »
It's clear that it is a RPG pnp system, it goes that nasu has numbers to establish the difference, he just hasn't said anything about how the numbers relate

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2013, 10:38:57 PM »
No, it's clear that it's meant to look like an RPG system. I'm not at all convinced Nasu actually bothered to work out a proper system for it, rather than just making the numbers up as he went along.

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2013, 10:43:41 PM »
*ahem* I'd rather this didn't devolve into an argument, so both of you, please let it rest.

Thank you.

Anyway! Another annoyance involves bad use of tropes. I mean, there are some things that make the use of tropes forgivable, but, if you use tropes without a good reason, then that puts your story on my auto-ignore list.

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2013, 07:56:21 PM »
Well, it depends what you mean by "use of tropes".

Tropes aren't meant to be something you consciously use, they're a list of common things that authors put in works either because people like them or because they're just necessary for the story to work. It's ridiculous to say "don't use tropes", because every story ever has, from ancient mythology to the present day. Having said that, anyone who looks at TV Tropes and says "hey, let's design my character around that trope" is an idiot, because that's not how it's meant to work at all. Tropes are meant to emerge organically as a result of writing the story, not be something you put in artificially so you can say "hey, this character is a Tsundere" or whatever.

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2013, 09:35:40 PM »
I know what you mean.

Actually, I was talking about what you said is idiotic for what I meant by bad use of tropes. Only an organic feel is a good one, especially in this case.

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2013, 10:27:27 PM »
Ah, OK, fair enough.

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2013, 10:29:52 PM »
Yes, indeed.

Should I think of others, I'll let you guys know.

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2013, 09:37:52 PM »
One thing that bothers me majorly is the worfing in fan fiction it's so damn dumb

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2013, 11:59:57 PM »
Care to clarify what you mean by that?

Otherwise, I won't know whether to agree with you or to disagree, which means I'll have to be on the fence for it.

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2013, 12:44:47 AM »
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect

I assume that this is what lantz is talking about.

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2013, 01:05:18 AM »
If that is so, then I'd know what he means, unless it's absolutely necessary in a story (not counting the Ranma 1/2 fanfics out there as listed on TVTropes).

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2013, 01:16:29 AM »
Yeah, using a character like that just to prove how strong their opponent is rather annoying sometimes. It's understandable, though, because there needs to be some way to prove how strong the character is.

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2013, 01:45:54 AM »
Yup T that's what I mean, it occurs a lot in hf. And no mike it's not understandable, there's plenty of other ways to prove a character strong without humiliating or disrespecting another character

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2013, 01:48:53 AM »
I take it you don't like any fiction, then, lantz?

I mean, The Worf Effect is everywhere in the world of fiction, not just fan fiction.

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Re: Things that annoy you in fanfiction discussion thread
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2013, 01:55:06 AM »
Wrong, its not everywhere, it's just a common thing, good writers know how to avoid using such a dumb cliche