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Re: Crossover ideas thread
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2013, 01:59:59 AM »
No, ciel's mo is roa, magi mean nothing to her

Well, she is still part of the Church, her job is to protect people....

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Re: Crossover ideas thread
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2013, 02:04:19 AM »
Not true

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Re: Crossover ideas thread
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2013, 02:14:01 AM »
Well, I don't really know enough Tsuki to continue arguing this....

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Re: Crossover ideas thread
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2013, 03:01:42 PM »
The church is not concerned with people as a whole that is just an image thing

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Re: Crossover ideas thread
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2013, 04:03:14 AM »
Now here's a crossover idea.

FSN/Angel: The Series and maybe Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

A client of Wolfram and Hart's wants a Servant of absolute power so they can do something. Maybe get vengeance or they just want to have a mystical Weapon of Mass destruction at their command. They're a MacGuffin.

Anyway, with Wolfram and Hart's resources they pull a Servant from another dimension. Just happens to be Gilgamesh.

Shit goes down really fast and Gil, well, Gil's pissed and he hates the world as he sees it now. I mean, look at L.A. it is kind of a pit, especially Angel's version of it. So he's going to wipe out all the useless people and start anew.

Of course Angel really doesn't want that happening. However, one doesn't stop Gilgamesh when he's in full, "Mongrels, women and children!" mode. In fact, the Angel Investigations team get their asses handed to them. Gil doesn't kill them though; he finds Angel fascinating because - we'll set this in early season three before Connor was born - Angel's unique. He's the only vampire with a soul, and that gets him a pass. (May almost get him captured because Gil might think he's a "treasure".)

Wolfram and Hart is a mess because Gil went all "Mongrels, women and children!" on their L.A. offices. They know they have a problem. The Fang Gang knows that Gil is severely dangerous. So they sort of join forces to stop Gil.

The only way to do that is to summon something else on his power level. Angel doesn't trust Wolfram and Hart because he's pretty sure they'll stab him in the back as soon as Gil's stopped. He demands "control" of the Servant they summon.

The oracles at Wolfram and Hart know of someone who is capable of doing this, but the chances of him winning are slim because well, Gil. Angel shrugs, says something like, "Well, I always like to root for the underdog. Let's do this."

And EMIYA is now the newest member of the Fang Gang.

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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2013, 11:45:40 AM »
This sounds interesting. :) Angel and Archer bickering with each other would be fantastic. XD

...Also, I wonder how they handle life insurance over at W&H, especially given stuff happening in their firms like the Beast murderating pretty much the entire LA branch. ^_^"

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Re: Crossover ideas thread
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2013, 04:43:34 PM »
This sounds interesting. :) Angel and Archer bickering with each other would be fantastic. XD

...Also, I wonder how they handle life insurance over at W&H, especially given stuff happening in their firms like the Beast murderating pretty much the entire LA branch. ^_^"

And they would bicker, especially if Angel was made Archer's master and Archer gets to see all of those lovely Angelus memories.  Of course, Angel gets to see Archer being a dumb ass.

You know, I bet W&H does have a fantastic life insurance plan.

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Re: Crossover ideas thread
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2013, 06:23:27 PM »
And they would bicker, especially if Angel was made Archer's master and Archer gets to see all of those lovely Angelus memories.  Of course, Angel gets to see Archer being a dumb ass.
And it would be glorious. :3 Especially the bickering.

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I would certainly hope so- poor evil W&H lawyers, they die so frequently. And usually in horrible ways. Which is fitting in more ways than one really, but still. :3

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Re: Crossover ideas thread
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2013, 07:13:11 AM »
So I decided some time ago this year that I'd try my hand at (hopefully) writing a successful Gundam metaverse/Nasuverse crossover. Thing is, I wanted to diverge greatly during Fate/Zero's point in time it's not even funny, especially since I haven't even finished watching it yet (I blame Fate/Zero Sense for that).

Something that I thought would be helpful for you all to know what parts of the Gundam metaverse I'm including would be a timeline. Therefore, I'll have the timeline posted here, even though I haven't figured out how to best put in the Nasuverse stuff at this point in time (I mean, where the timeline ends is where the Fourth Holy Grail War takes place, at least in accordance to the year it takes place in-story):

Spoiler for timeline:
AD Calendar

2045 As petroleum resources run out, and environmental pollution worsens, a worldwide economic collapse ensues. The world's nations form economic blocs, and the planet becomes divided into a handful of major powers.

Ethnic and religious strife leads to a global conflict known as the Reconstruction Wars, while the Type S influenza virus spreads throughout the world. Disease and war produce massive casualties.

-25 Earth Federation is founded to replace defunct United Nations and announces the Space Development Program.

-8 April 1

George Glenn is born

-2 Space Colonization begins with early orbital habitats called Space Colonies completed.

UC calendar

U.C. 0001

With Earth's population at 9 billion, an ambitious space colonization program begins. The calendar is changed to the Universal Century era.

The Laplace Space Station is built in Earth's Orbit. Ricardo Marcenas is elected as the first prime minister of the Earth Federation. During the calendar change ceremony, terrorists use solar powered explosives to destroy the Laplace Space Station, killing all of the inhabitants. One survivor, Syam Vist, comes across the Universal Century charter (Laplace's Box), which dictates that the inhabitants of space should be given self-governance without interference from the Earth. Realizing that the words contain the power to destroy the Earth Federation, Syam takes the document with him into hiding and marries into the influential Vist Family.

Construction of Side 1 (L1) Bunch 1 (Shangri-La) space colony is completed.

The Colony Management Corporation (CMC) is established.

U.C. 0009

Zeon Zum Deikun and Anton Flanagan born.

Nuclear weapons are employed on the frontlines of central Asia, in the Kashmir region.

U.C. 0012

George Glenn is nominated for a Nobel Prize

U.C. 0013

George Glenn enlists in the military

U.C. 0015

The population of the space colonies reaches 1.5 million.

U.C. 0016

The Federation establishes the Frontier Settlement Transport Bureau (FSTB).

U.C. 0017

The Reconstruction Wars ends. The previous national orders have been radically changed, and new powers known as the Atlantic Federation, Eurasian Federation, Orb Union, Oceania Union, Equatorial Union, South Africa Union, African Community, United States of South America, Kingdom of Scandinavia, and Republic of East Asia have emerged and continue the Earth Federation as a joint effort for peace and stability in the aftermath of the Reconstruction Wars.

The Earth Federation formally adopts the Universal Century as the calendar system and announces a new space development program. Construction of the space station Yggdrasil, which had been interrupted by the global war, resumes at Lagrange Point 1.

U.C. 0018

The Space Colony plan begins in earnest, and a space industry arises to exploit the new frontier. Construction of the lunar city Copernicus begins.

George Glenn becomes an employee of the Atlantic Federation's Federal Aeronautics and Space Administration (FASA).
The Atlantic Federation establishes the Federal Space Force (FSF). The Eurasian Federation and Republic of East Asia soon follow suit.

Fearing a new arms race that could lead to war, the Earth Federation establishes the Earth Federation Security Council and commissions the creation of a military force under its control.

U.C. 0018.06

One-millionth “Spacenoid” baby born in Side 2 (L4).

Side 1 (L1) Bunch 1 (Shangri-La) selected as site of Olympiad LII, the first to be held off the Earth.

U.C. 0019

The space station Yggdrasil is completed.

U.C. 0020

The population of the space colonies reaches 5 million.

The Earth Federation Forces are created and is divided into separate land, sea, and air forces.

The lunar city of Copernicus is completed.

FASA launches a Jupiter exploration project and announces the development of the exploration ship Tsiolkovsky. George Glenn is to be the ship's chief designer, and the space station Yggdrasil will serve as the construction site.

U.C. 0023

The exploration ship Tsiolkovsky is completed.

George Glenn's Confession. As George Glenn departs for Jupiter aboard the Tsiolkovsky, he reveals the existence of Coordinators, and releases the necessary genetic engineering techniques onto the worldwide network. The world is thrown into chaos by these events.

In the name of environmental protection, the pressure group Blue Cosmos declares itself adamantly opposed to Coordinator technology.

U.C. 0024

An international conference is held to discuss the Coordinator controversy issue. A protocol on genetic modification is adopted, totally prohibiting the manipulation of human genes. Nonetheless, some wealthy individuals secretly have their children turned into Coordinators.

The Earth Federation rejects the genetic modification protocol and instead begins an investigation how George Glenn was modified, researching the Coordinator Process, and adopting limitation laws for public safety in all this, while looking into its positive effects for further Space Colonization as well as eventual Mars and later Jupiter Colonization.

U.C. 0025

A hospital in Chicago which has secretly been creating Coordinators is set ablaze. Blue Cosmos is rumored to be involved.

Construction of the Porta Panama mass driver begins in Central America.

The population of the space colonies reaches 50 million.

U.C. 0027

Von Braun, the second permanent lunar settlement, is established.

The Lunar Economic Development Authority (LEDA), an independent non-governmental organization, is established.

U.C. 0029

Construction of the Habilis mass driver begins on the shore of Lake Victoria.

U.C. 0030

The Federation privatizes the Frontier Settlement Transport Bureau (FSTB), which becomes the Space Transport Enterprise Group (STEP).

The population of the space colonies reaches 500 million.

The Tsiolkovsky reaches Jupiter and discovers the fossil known as Evidence 01. The world is again thrown into chaos, and FASA orders the Tsiolkovsky to bring back the fossil.

Siegel Clyne, a Coordinator, is secretly born in the Kingdom of Scandinavia.

U.C. 0031

Patrick Zala, a Coordinator, is secretly born in the Atlantic Federation.

U.C. 0034

The Federation again reorganizes the Space Transport Enterprise Group. An independent non-governmental organization, the Public Corporation of Space Transport (PCST), is established.

Construction of Side 2 (L4) Bunch 1 space colony is completed.

U.C. 0035

Construction of Side 3 (Munzo Province) begins in L2 using Minovsky “closed-type” design.

U.C. 0037

George Glenn returns from Jupiter with Evidence 01. The fossil is taken to the Zodiac research colony at Lagrange point 5 for detailed examination.

The Earth Federation Assembly claims authority over Evidence 01 and takes George Glenn into protective custody.

U.C. 0038

The world's religious authorities gather at the Palestine Conference, but are unable to reach any conclusions, and their influence begins to wane. Tolerance for Coordinators spreads throughout the world, and the first Coordinator boom begins.

Earth Federation research reveals several crippling flaws in the Coordinator Process, but notes that it is correctable. In response, the EF Limitation Laws on Coordinators are readdressed or removed. With this official sanctioning, many more join the boom.

Furthermore, the EF Assembly pushes forward with further Lunar development and expresses to jumpstart Mars Colonization.

The space industry heats up, and construction of numerous space colonies begins at Lagrange point 4.

The Orb Union begins construction of the Kaguya mass driver and the resource satellite Heliopolis.

U.C. 0039

The EFSF lifts its protective custody of George Glenn, and he begins examining Evidence 01 at Zodiac, though hidden in the shadows, EF SOF still remain.

The colony's extraterrestrial research organization expands into a huge research facility.

U.C. 0040

40% of the human population (roughly 5 billion people) have emigrated to space.

U.C. 0041

The orbit of asteroid 3 Juno is altered to send it to the Earth Sphere.

U.C. 0043

The Atlantic Federation establishes a lunar base in the Ptolemaeus Crater, drawing international condemnation, and unveils its first series of mobile armors. Earth's major powers begin a space arms race, and the Eurasian Federation begins the construction of Artemis.

In response to the sudden development of major bases in space, the Earth Federation converts several older colonies to Military Ports and begins to stripmine several asteroids for conversion into more Military Ports.

U.C. 0044

Half of the total human population now lives in space.

Ere-ism, the philosophy that the Earth is sacred and that humanity should leave it in peace, begins to spread.

The EFF develops the RTX-44 Main Battle Tank (MBT) land combat vehicle.

U.C. 0045

The asteroid Juno - later known as Luna II - is placed in Earth orbit to help with space colony construction.

The Minovsky Physics Society is founded at the Side 3 colony cluster.

U.C. 0046

The Zodiac research colony is further expanded. George Glenn announces his concept for a new type of Space Colony, and construction of these new colonies begins. This project is funded mainly by the Atlantic Federation, the Eurasian Federation, and the Republic of East Asia, and the new L5 colony cluster is to be managed by representatives of these sponsor nations, but the Earth Federation announces authority and though the nations would have access and be encouraged to support, actual matters would be left up to it.

Zeon Zum Deikun begins to propagate his philosophy of Contolism, a synthesis of Ere-ism (the philosophy that the Earth is sacred and that humanity should leave it in peace) and Side-ism (the belief the Sides should be treated as sovereign nations).

U.C. 0047

Development of the Minovsky-Ionesco fusion reactor begins.

U.C. 0048 ~

The first generation of Coordinators, born in secrecy, reach maturity and begin to excel in every scientific, artistic, and athletic field. The differences between Coordinators and Naturals thus become very clear, and critical voices emerge.

The Earth Federation begins to encourage Coordinators to move to Luna and Mars because of this, though sounding like exile, the EF research into Coordinators indicates that successful colonization of both can only be achieved with large numbers of Coordinators.

U.C. 0049

Marriages among first-generation Coordinators produce a purebred second generation, who soon prove to have inherited their parents' abilities.

Muruta Azrael is born in the Atlantic Federation.

U.C. 0050

The human population reaches 11 billion people, 9 billion of whom have emigrated to space. The following year, the Earth Federation halts construction of new space colonies, and the colonization program is effectively ended.

Degwin Sodo Zabi marries the much younger Naliss.

The Earth Federation offers semi-autonomous status to colonies on Luna and Mars that accept large numbers of Coordinators and offers Colonization bonuses to any Coordinator that moves to either.  Many accept the Earth Federation’s offer and cities like Von Braun and Copernicus begin to enjoy more independence from the Earth Federation as well as the nation states of Earth.

U.C. 0051

Patrick Zala and Siegel Clyne, participating in the construction of new colonies at Lagrange point 5, meet for the first time.

U.C. Alien Landholding Law passed.

U.C. 0052

Zeon Zum Deikun moves to Side 3 to spread his ideology. Deikun argues that humanity should complete its migration to space, and that the space colonies should be treated as independent nations.

The first ten space colonies (later known as Aprilius City) of the new L5 cluster are completed. These colonies, dubbed PLANTs, are intended to serve as large-scale production sites. The one thing they cannot make is food, which the PLANTs are strictly prohibited from producing and which must be imported entirely from Earth.

U.C. 0053

The estimated Coordinator population now exceeds a hundred million.

Anti-Coordinator organizations begin carrying out acts of terrorism against the PLANTs. Since they have no political autonomy and are thoroughly demilitarized, the PLANTs are unable to defend themselves, and the Coordinators working in the PLANTs become increasingly dissatisfied.

In response, the Earth Federation declares a crackdown on terrorist organizations and authorizes the PLANTS to build colonies for the purpose of gaining independent agriculture while also dispatching some military forces to the PLANTS.

The Nation States oppose the Earth Federation General Assembly’s decisions and threaten to withdraw, there is a public backlash against both sides over the PLANTS.

U.C. 0054

Al Da Flaga visits the Mendel colony at Lagrange Point 4. He commissions Dr. Ulen Hibiki, the chief researcher of GARM R&D, to create a clone of himself. Rau La Flaga is born later this year.

U.C. 0055

Scharnhorst Buch founds the Buch Konzern space salvage business.

U.C. 0058

Side 3 declares its independence, and the Republic of Zeon is established. A militia, the Colony Republican Guard, is
formed.

In response, the nation states mobilize their militaries, but the Earth Federation insteads grants the Lunar Colonies, considered very stable, independence and begins to work with both Mars and Space Colonies towards their own independence granting greater self-governing to Space Colonies.

The Zodiac Alliance is formed.

Certain interests become concern over the freer nature of the Lunar, Mars, and Space Colonies.

U.C. 0059

The Earth Federal Space Force (EFSF) is established as a separate service. The Federation does not adopt the Bardot Policy and will not apply economic sanctions against Side 3 (L2) or any colony.

Again, certain interests do not like what they see.

U.C. 0059.11.17

Casval Rem Deikun is born.

U.C. 0060

With tensions growing, the Federation Forces begin an arms build-up, organizing the Earth Federation Space Force and converting Luna II into a military base. The Federation launches the Year 60 Armament Reinforcement Plan, spearheaded by the EFF. Luna II is converted into the principal military base for the EFSF.

U.C. 0060

Bright Noa is born.

U.C. 0061

George Glenn is assassinated by a young Natural who is angry because he was not born as a Coordinator.

A PLANT Supreme Council is formed, made up of representatives from each of the PLANT cities.

The EFF fields the Type 61, sometimes referred to as the M61, twin-150mm MBT.

Mirai Yashima is born.

U.C. 0062

The Colony Republican Guard is elevated to the status of a full-fledged military, the Zeon Elite Force (ZEF).

Alien Exclusion Act passed much to the surprise of many.

U.C. 0062.04.01

Zeon Elite Force Academy (ZEFA) founded in Side 3 (L2).

U.C. 0062.09.12

Artesia Som Deikun is born.

U.C. 0062.11.21

Lalah Sune is born.

U.C. 0063.11.04

Amuro Ray is born.

U.C. 0064

The EFF conducts a naval review. The new spaceships developed as part of the Year 60 Armament Reinforcement Plan take centre stage.  Not long after, the Atlantic Federation Space Forces conducts its own review followed by Eurasia and then East Asia.

That same year, the AF Army adopts the M2 Linear Tank as its Primary Main Battle Tank.

Hayato Kobayashi and Fraw Bow are born.

U.C. 0065

The researchers of the Minovsky Physics Society observe a unique electromagnetic effect, which leads to the discovery of the Minovsky particle, but a hidden agent for an unknown nation though copies the research and disappears back to their home country.

A political schism between Zeon Zum Deikun and the influential Zabi family is made public.

U.C. 0067

The Earth Federation puts on hold a motion for colonial full autonomy as the feuding in Zeon becomes greater.

The Zodiac Alliance is restructured into a semi-professional militia and renamed the Zodiac Alliance of Freedom Treaty.

Construction plan for Side 7 (L3) announced.

Terrance Richman and Ullhammer T. Keynes demonstrate the Raiant R-7 prototype humanoid robot to Rob Torres.

Eurasia develops and fields the Lineynaya Bronetekhnika or LB-1 Linear Tank, but many see it for what it is, a copy of the M2 Linear Tank.

The Earth Federation Army develops the XM65 MBT with twin Linear Gun barrels based on the M61 MBT and fields 20 for long term research purposes.

Yes, this is somewhere over 100 years after Fate/Zero is supposed to take place, but I don't have an exact specification as to what year Anno Domini changed to the Universal Century. I mean, according to the more recent Gundam sources, they really said that it was supposed to be far off into the future (but never specified when).

If you guys want more info out of me, please, let me know as soon as humanly possible.

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Re: Crossover ideas thread
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2013, 07:35:01 AM »
Just curious: do you have an explanation as to why the Fourth War was delayed for so long?

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Re: Crossover ideas thread
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2013, 07:39:51 AM »
The best one that I can come up with is that the First War and anything around that point in time was bumped to over 100 years after they were canonically supposed to happen (including the births of every character in the Nasuverse around that point in time that was bumped back).

In short, it wasn't delayed, the First War was pushed that far back.

Any other questions?

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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2013, 02:49:20 PM »
Some of the stuff in there isn't well-explained. For example, what is the "Alien Exclusion Act", or "Alien Landholding Law"?

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Re: Crossover ideas thread
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2013, 06:00:41 PM »
To put it bluntly? Those count as reasons why the Space Colonies (some of them) in the canonical Universal Century (not the in-story Universal Century) declare war on Earth for their independence. In canon, those bills were passed as a means of controlling the Spacenoids (aka people who were born and raised in Space) by the Earthnoids (aka people from Earth), though only one of those bills was passed and made a law in the story (as you might be able to see).

In short? Those bills were meant to limit Spacenoid freedom.

Of course, I'm still working on the details for how to put the Nasuverse stuff into the timeline, really. That's taking me far too long.

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« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2013, 06:31:46 PM »
As for the time pushback, maybe someone/something tried to prevent the Grail from ever being developed, but only succeeded in delaying it?

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« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2013, 06:36:09 PM »
Maybe. I'm still trying to figure everything out with this, which I can tell you is a big pain in the ass, and so on.

Still, you might have a point, so I'll consider it.