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Re: Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works Anime
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2014, 04:31:29 AM »
I never said that names.

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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2014, 05:21:56 AM »
Well that seals it, new adaptations can go fuck themselves for all I care.
Because they subtly reference zero?

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« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2014, 05:22:41 AM »
Not the issue I have names. It's the lack of fate (I caved and got Netflix for my dad, watched it and liked it) fate zero really did a great emotional set up and unfortunately all of what they set up (not to mention the core of shirou's character) can only be properly resolved in fate, without that resolution and understanding UBW and HF are hollow.
wait I thought you hated zero

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Re: Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works Anime
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2014, 06:23:49 AM »
. . . So I'm hoping to see:

1.) Kotomine taking Lancer from Bazett.

2.) More of Archer's past.  (Damn it I want to find out who that lover was.  She was even mentioned in Extra.)

3.) . . . I really want a scene with Archer and Kotomine interacting.

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Re: Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works Anime
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2014, 07:10:36 AM »
I want the first episode to be Bazzet's adventure, with it ending with kirei shanking her

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Re: Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works Anime
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2014, 08:06:11 AM »
I did hate it. Between translation of the book I read ages ago, the effects I mentioned in the other thread and the subs it was a god-awful chore to watch. After I got Netflix for my dad I gave the dub a shot. Turns out to be fucking great when it all comes together.

sadly all the awesome emotional tripwires Zero set up are fragged by choice to skip fate.

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Re: Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works Anime
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2014, 08:08:25 AM »
I don't understand why UBW and HF will be literally worthless because fate didn't get adapted.

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Re: Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works Anime
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2014, 08:46:00 AM »
Numerous scenes and events will fail outright or cause serious problems in character interpretation as a result of a lack of information. I'm sorry but frankly without proper representation the story falls apart. Fate is important for several resolutions and many establishing resonance points (like Ilya for example) that continue through the work. As it stands most of the main cast is being dumped over board in terms of character, development and resolution all to adapt Gen's choice of nonsense. Deen might have been painful average in their attempt but it's leagues ahead of these new adaptations for actually having sense enough not to undercut the emotional core of the work. Fate stay night is like a mountain, without the fate route ubw and hf can't reach nearly the same height that people claim them to stand at.

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« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2014, 09:19:16 AM »
lantz, for the love of god, shut up. KAIZA already told you once not to stir up shit in here with this crap.

I politely ignored this BS from you once, but now it's getting to the levels of the Avalon drama over on BL. I kindly suggest you knock it off. Now.

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« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2014, 09:52:53 AM »
Here's a good example of my point, the ubw movie. It tried to slash and burn the source all to fit it into a movie length feature, and what we got is a mess. Nasu made FSN different from Tsukihime. Tsukihime can be played in pretty much any order route wise without losing anything. FSN is, like I said, like a mountain. Fate is the base and ubw and hf twin peaks. The whole thing only works when you put it all together. Any one part missing and the pay off isn't there. Like Ilya, you learn her character in fate and when UBW rolls around and that happens it's not just that Gilgamesh killed someone it's that he killed a nice person, a terribly pained person at that. So of course you want to make Goldie bleed from the eyes. But that further stretches into hf. Couldn't save Ilya before but now you can so the moments intensity is through the roof. Point being, the idea of leaving anything out makes a flaw product but here it takes the steam out of the train.

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« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2014, 01:42:06 PM »
Numerous scenes and events will fail outright or cause serious problems in character interpretation as a result of a lack of information. I'm sorry but frankly without proper representation the story falls apart. Fate is important for several resolutions and many establishing resonance points (like Ilya for example) that continue through the work. As it stands most of the main cast is being dumped over board in terms of character, development and resolution all to adapt Gen's choice of nonsense. Deen might have been painful average in their attempt but it's leagues ahead of these new adaptations for actually having sense enough not to undercut the emotional core of the work. Fate stay night is like a mountain, without the fate route ubw and hf can't reach nearly the same height that people claim them to stand at.
Lolno, fate's important, but we have zero as the establishing "route"


Here's a good example of my point, the ubw movie. It tried to slash and burn the source all to fit it into a movie length feature, and what we got is a mess. Nasu made FSN different from Tsukihime. Tsukihime can be played in pretty much any order route wise without losing anything. FSN is, like I said, like a mountain. Fate is the base and ubw and hf twin peaks. The whole thing only works when you put it all together. Any one part missing and the pay off isn't there. Like Ilya, you learn her character in fate and when UBW rolls around and that happens it's not just that Gilgamesh killed someone it's that he killed a nice person, a terribly pained person at that. So of course you want to make Goldie bleed from the eyes. But that further stretches into hf. Couldn't save Ilya before but now you can so the moments intensity is through the roof. Point being, the idea of leaving anything out makes a flaw product but here it takes the steam out of the train.
How does deen making the momumentally stupid decision to make the ubw movie 1 and 1/2 hours have anything to do with this conversation?

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Re: Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works Anime
« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2014, 02:28:43 PM »
Go to Beast Lair's Avalon, that's the place where Saberfag drama should go instead of infesting this thread. At least DSM should be free of such butthurt.

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Re: Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works Anime
« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2014, 02:43:33 PM »
lantz, you've ignored the mods on this twice now. One more time, and you're getting a warning, understand?
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Re: Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works Anime
« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2014, 03:07:25 PM »
Oh, he went that. Let keep it that way, mkay?  :3

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« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2014, 03:07:45 PM »
Oh, he went there. Let keep it that way, mkay?  :3