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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2014, 08:26:04 PM »
No Kat, the fifty thousand types in the stands make it impossible.

he didn't cheat, not in the strictest sense. I totally agree it was unfair though. However the universe and his family come first.

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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2014, 08:33:37 PM »
So... in an event to determine the strongest life form in the universe, Satoshi made ORT restrict itself to the strength of a puny, measly human out of bias for the other fighter?

Then what's the point?
[13:38:37] Helligator: Depends on the god, but gods by definition in Nasuverse are strong because they have divine authority.
[13:38:48] Kat: Even the toilet god?
[13:38:56] Helligator: No one worships toilets.
[13:39:00] Helligator: Don't be a shitlord.

[04:32:08] Helligator: I can't make dragons in power armor like this

[19:50:12] francobull III: [...] why are you being all assive aggressive?

[23:32:37] Helligator: use the narrative as a means to convey an interesting story and cool conflicts with the openness you're allowed
[23:32:43] Helligator: not to CHEAT stories and conflicts

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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2014, 08:34:46 PM »
Wait hold on. This is to fight CM infected with Angra Mainyu?

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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2014, 08:37:24 PM »
So nepotism is more important than the fate of universe or something. Truly a "hero", that Satoshi.

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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2014, 08:46:00 PM »
I'm not sure I understand that question YOLF.

Merlin and companies ultimate plan is such Umbra, this event. Or rather the end of the events in this particular universe are a part of that plan although, to be clear, Satoshi has no knowledge of what the plan includes.

reread my post Kat, it says universe in it.

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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2014, 09:03:19 PM »
I'm not sure I understand that question YOLF.

Allow me to be blunt.

Everyone aside from the three mentioned are types, so crystal valley is no. Human strength means it Umbra, ORT ceases to be stronger than a normal human. The Arena harnesses energy, during matches this energy is applied to the referee, elsewise is applied to the champion of the Arena. The purpose is to define who the strongest life form in the universe.

If the purpose of the tournament/battle royale/event is to determine the strongest life form in the universe, why limit the fighters (in the ORT vs Leysritt match at least) to what is not their full, natural strength? I get that Satoshi did it to give Leys an edge and a chance against her opponent, but that way it totally defeats the point of the exercise!
« Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 09:04:57 PM by YOLF »
[13:38:37] Helligator: Depends on the god, but gods by definition in Nasuverse are strong because they have divine authority.
[13:38:48] Kat: Even the toilet god?
[13:38:56] Helligator: No one worships toilets.
[13:39:00] Helligator: Don't be a shitlord.

[04:32:08] Helligator: I can't make dragons in power armor like this

[19:50:12] francobull III: [...] why are you being all assive aggressive?

[23:32:37] Helligator: use the narrative as a means to convey an interesting story and cool conflicts with the openness you're allowed
[23:32:43] Helligator: not to CHEAT stories and conflicts

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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2014, 09:06:06 PM »
Satoshis is a "good referee" in the sense that he's following in the footsteps of the "third team": SEC refs.
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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2014, 09:16:48 PM »
Lantz there is no way for CM to ever be infected by Angra. One would be the fact that he's been killed by Zeltretch. If he even managed to never have that encounter there is always the idea that CM would just eliminate humanity. Then we can get into the fact that CM could annihilate Angra. Even if the whole world was covered CM could wipe out every piece.

"No True Ancestor can become the Crimson Moon, because they're all imperfect that they can't reach his level of purity. Except Arc."

There is also this. CM stands alone. No fusing with silly Gaian stuff(Thanks to Bridge for clarification).

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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2014, 09:18:51 PM »
You answered the question yourself YOLF to give Leysritt an edge.

I said he was the referee Lyco, never said anything about being good or fair

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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2014, 09:22:25 PM »
Lantz there is no way for CM to ever be infected by Angra. One would be the fact that he's been killed by Zeltretch. If he even managed to never have that encounter there is always the idea that CM would just eliminate humanity. Then we can get into the fact that CM could annihilate Angra. Even if the whole world was covered CM could wipe out every piece.

"No True Ancestor can become the Crimson Moon, because they're all imperfect that they can't reach his level of purity. Except Arc."

There is also this. CM stands alone. No fusing with silly Gaian stuff(Thanks to Bridge for clarification).
pls respond. Also what fool made him the referee?

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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2014, 09:24:18 PM »
You answered the question yourself YOLF to give Leysritt an edge.

Yeah, okay, but doesn't the method really completely ignore the point of the competition? Why would he even be allowed to do so, how come the crowds (assuming TYPEs even care) didn't go up in a riot about this blatant handicap? A handicap that, I might add, produced an pretty unfaithful result as far as who the actual "strongest in the universe" is.

That's kind of what's confusing me.
[13:38:37] Helligator: Depends on the god, but gods by definition in Nasuverse are strong because they have divine authority.
[13:38:48] Kat: Even the toilet god?
[13:38:56] Helligator: No one worships toilets.
[13:39:00] Helligator: Don't be a shitlord.

[04:32:08] Helligator: I can't make dragons in power armor like this

[19:50:12] francobull III: [...] why are you being all assive aggressive?

[23:32:37] Helligator: use the narrative as a means to convey an interesting story and cool conflicts with the openness you're allowed
[23:32:43] Helligator: not to CHEAT stories and conflicts

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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2014, 09:24:38 PM »
pls respond. Also what fool made him the referee?
Obviously he volunteered himself. And referees are supposed to be impartial and fair, but no, of course Satoshi is "above" such things.

And the crowd is most likely based off of DBZ and Yu Yu Hakusho tournaments blended with football and wrestling.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 09:25:38 PM by Lycodrake »
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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2014, 09:26:11 PM »
So Leysritt gets picked over ORT and most likely gets stomped by a Type tier villain, only for Satoshi save the day with his gonzo powers that make Samuel Haight blush.

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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2014, 09:26:19 PM »
Posted before you so I didn't see your reply till now. Andromeda made him referee.

in order of your statements. He's not infected, saw the future, Angra joined forces with CM specifically to die.

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Re: Of Swords and Sorcery (Chronological edition discussion)
« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2014, 09:28:58 PM »
Who is Andromeda? The embodiment of Blood Fort that Satoshi has stuck his dick in?
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