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Gundam Trans-Humans
« on: October 19, 2013, 09:58:24 AM »
I was arguing with some of my friends about which of the several trans-Humans in the Gundam metaverse could truly be considered the 'next stage'.

1) Newtypes - in UC, they are a natural adaption of Humans living in space, though their abilities aren't well-defined (it appears to be psychic in nature), and it's never stated if the abilities are passed down from parents to their children.  In AW though, Newtypes are just mutants and are not unique to Humanity.

2) Cyber-Newtypes (UC) - Humans artificially modified to possess Newtype abilities.  They suffer psychological issues as a result.

3) Coordinators (CE) - genetically-modified Humans who are physically superior to ordinary Humans (Naturals).  As a race they suffer progressive sterility from the third generation onwards.

4) Extended Humans (CE) - ordinary Humans augmented by means of drugs or some sort of neural surgery to allow them to keep up with Coordinators, but are highly unstable mentally as a result.

5) Innovators (AD) - a GN Particle-induced evolution that results in enhanced reflexes, increased analytic abilities and spatial awareness, as well as telepathy and an increased life-span.  Due to the rapid growth of the Innovator population in just fifty years, it can be assumed that their abilities are passed on to their children.

6) Innovades (AD) - AIs imprinted onto clone Human bodies that give an 'impression' of Innovators.  They have the same abilities, but are said to be inferior qualitatively.

7) Super Soldiers (AD) - surgically-modified Humans who possess similar abilities as Innovades and Innovators, but may suffer from psychological issues as a result.

8 ) X-Rounders (AG) - Humans who can use generally-inactive areas of the Human brain, although it is stated in-series that their abilities are just a fancy term for a Human's largely-suppressed natural animal instincts.

What are your opinions?
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Re: Gundam Trans-Humans
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2013, 02:14:50 AM »
The only ones I can see being Transhuman are the Innovators and even then, they sort of cheat. Newtypes are basically downgraded in X and Coordinators are Newtypes+1.

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Re: Gundam Trans-Humans
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2013, 03:10:25 AM »
The only ones I can see being Transhuman are the Innovators and even then, they sort of cheat. Newtypes are basically downgraded in X and Coordinators are Newtypes+1.

Why do you say they cheat?
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Re: Gundam Trans-Humans
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2013, 03:22:16 AM »
They need exposure to GN particles.

Which is kinda more natural than coordinators since those are breed, and newtypes are not really that different. Or so my soul weighted by the Earth's gravity tell me.

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Re: Gundam Trans-Humans
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2013, 07:42:06 AM »
Everything on that list except newtype is a cheater.

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Re: Gundam Trans-Humans
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2013, 09:04:01 AM »
Everything on that list except newtype is a cheater.

To be fair, the Trans-Human movement IRL always involves 'cheating', whether it involves cybernetics, genetic-engineering, robotics, AI, etc.
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Re: Gundam Trans-Humans
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2013, 11:07:49 AM »
Three and four on that list are rip offs of the first and second. Newtypes gain there power from the last great frontier, space, they are logically the next step man case closed.

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Re: Gundam Trans-Humans
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2013, 11:48:10 AM »
Coordinators are not Newtypes.  They're actually closer to Halo Spartans, and are an evolutionary dead-end, considering that Third Generation Coordinators are sterile.
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Re: Gundam Trans-Humans
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2013, 12:26:58 PM »
They are a stand in for it. And a terrible one. Gundam seed rips off so very much of mobile suit gundam it's unbearable. Beyond being special the main two guys are pathetic cheaters. They don't seriously pay for any mistakes  they made and somehow, probably because of yaoi fan girl enthusiasts who ship cloud and sephiroth and piss on FSN because they watch zero and like sausage fests that terrible show gundam seed has fans.

Kira is the worst character in the history of the gun dam franchise and coordinators are all right their with him.

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Re: Gundam Trans-Humans
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2013, 12:36:27 PM »
Agreed; they are a pathetic excuse for the 'next stage' archetype, and Kira is such a Mary Sue that he actually puts KALDOR DRAIGO of all people to shame.  As a protagonist, Mu La Flaga would have been a better choice...assuming Fukuda and his team don't mess up the storyline like they did in canon.
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Re: Gundam Trans-Humans
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2014, 08:01:41 PM »
Newtypes and Innovators are the same thing, like Innovades, Coordinators, and Cyber-Newtypes are.  Minus the bad side effects of being Innovades or Cyber-Newtypes.

Except Innovators take it one step further cause LOL Superior and Mystical Minovsky Particles.
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