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Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« on: August 20, 2013, 08:10:50 PM »
I just realized that no one created this thread yet.
Which is a bit surprising given how popular these are on Beast's Lair.

So yeah, the question is simple yet for some may be difficult to answer.
Who are your favorite Type-MOON characters?

You can make one or even multiple characters.
Preferably while also telling us why.
If you like a particular version of a character (UBW Shirou, Far Side route "Roa"/SHIKI), you are free to mention them that way.
You are even allowed to make a "top list" of your favorites. Like top 3, top 5, top 10 or whatever.

I would rather not make a poll about this, though.
We don't have that many people and besides this is more about discussing why and how you like a certain character from the Nasuverse.

So without any further ado, let's get to it!

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2013, 02:21:17 AM »
Kohaku, by far she's my favorite character. She fits in basically any situation with much effort and is honestly sympathetic without being overly woobie about it or having a ham fisted message to impart.

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2013, 05:51:42 PM »
While Archer's my absolute favorite, I have a variety of characters I like quite a bit Nasuverse-wise. I'll organize a list or something later, but for now I'll just go off the top of my head.

Rin, Arc, Kohaku/Ruby, and Bazett are all pretty high up on my list for me. I also like Hakuno (aka Extra's protag- and yes, I am ignoring the male version, why do you ask? :P) quite a bit, despite her being somewhat of a blank slate. I also like Lancer quite a bit, and I find Kotomine to be a fun villain. I also think I'm going to be liking BB quite a bit once CCC finally gets some form of translation.

There's more, and I probably need to make a list or something, but for now, there you go. :3   

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2013, 05:41:19 AM »
From a writing stand point kirei is great but personally I hate him, we get your point just for the love of god be quiet you stupid priest

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2013, 01:25:31 AM »
Well, since I've never played Tsukihime, I can only talk about Fate characters.

My favourite character is, obviously, Sakura. I just find her mental strength to be amazing, as well as the way that she remains kind and caring despite everything she's been through, and the way that she is able to bounce back so easily after being freed from Zouken's control. Plus, I find her extremely sympathetic, particularly since she is basically ignored in two of the three routes, and has to go through a hell of a lot to get her happy ending in the one route where she does get it (and a lot of people in the fandom still seem to begrudge her that one happy ending).

As for the rest, I like Rider a lot, and also Shirou, particularly the HF version (and excepting MoS Shirou, who is an asshole). I also like Kariya, and sometimes Rin (particularly post-HF Rin, who is less of an idiotic magus in awe of her idiot father).

Rider I like because of her loyalty and protectiveness towards Sakura. Not the stupid, blind sort of loyalty and obedience to her master out of duty that Lancer has, but rather a genuine loyalty borne of real compassion and love for Sakura. She won't always obey Sakura, but she'll do what she thinks is best for her, and will protect her no matter what. And, whilst she does some bad things sometimes, she's basically a good person at heart, although she can be pretty nasty towards people she doesn't like (which is something I can relate to, because if someone treats me like shit and makes no effort to atone for that I can get vindictive). Plus, she's really hot and her sexual preferences align with mine, which is really handy when it comes to looking at, reading and writing porn.

As for the rest, Kariya and Shirou I like because of their determination to protect people, and Sakura in particular. Both of them were willing to sacrifice everything to protect her, even if it meant their deaths (Shirou might only actually act to protect her in HF, but I suspect that Fate or UBW Shirou would be just as willing to die to save her as HF Shirou was, even if the romantic relationship wasn't there). Indeed, in the case of Kariya and HF Shirou they outright expected to die, and yet they still continued.

In Shirou's case, even outside of HF I do still like him. I do find his ideal (in the pure form) admirable, even thought I detest the corrupted "kill one to save many" approach that MoS Shirou takes. I know it's not achieveable in practice, but it's admirable for him to try. I am someone who likes idealists and people who do what is right rather than what is convinient. And, whilst Sakura gets completely screwed over outside of HF, it's hardly Shirou's fault, he knows nothing of what is happening.

Finally, there's Rin. My opinion of her does vary somewhat. At times, she's really likeable, but at other times (particularly around the MoS part of HF) she's an outright bitch. Still, as irritatingly-lawful as she can be at times, her heart is fundamentally in the right place, and when she's not going out of her way to hide that she is a likeable person. My opinion of her depends somewhat on the route (like I said, post-HF Rin is much more likeable due to ditching her father's "true magus" crap in favour of her sister).

Also, Rin is odd in that she's the one character who my opinion of has actually changed quite a lot over time (Saber too, to some extent, in the opposite direction, but I think that's mainly because of how popular she is and how much Type Moon milks her). When I first completed the game I really didn't like her at all, because she was just a complete and utter bitch to Sakura for most of HF. But, as I talked to people and thought about it more, she came across as a much nicer person than at first glance, even with regards to her sister. Plus, she's a victim of her upbringing just as much as Sakura is, in a way, so it's hard to completely blame her for how she came out.

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2013, 02:15:44 AM »
Largely on investigation people don't have a problem with Sakura getting a happy end. Most people myself included have an issue with the presentation, execution and overall repetitive way hf came to be.

between the stupidly place growing up bullshit hf supposedly represents according to nasu in interviews to the idiot ball and utter failure that is the character of hf shirou in relation to the other two selves before him most people were embittered by the routes end which doesn't even cover the tone and rapid murder of 90% of the cast.

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2013, 02:46:49 AM »
Honestly, whilst you yourself might think that, that's not the impression I get from most of the rest of the fandom. Or, at least, most of them dislike her getting a happy ending out of HF, even though she's not at fault for what happened.

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2013, 02:52:25 AM »
As I said I spoke to people, the majority doesn't have an issue with Sakura getting a happy ending  it's just that hf was bogged down with so many compounded issues that those I've spoken to have an issue with hf period, some think that it ought to end with the normal ending and from a writing stand point, at least in the case of tone I agree

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2013, 02:59:21 AM »
Well, they don't have an issue with Sakura getting a happy ending so much as they have an issue with her getting a happy ending in HF.

And, frankly, to claim that the Normal End fits better with the theme of HF is laughable. Indeed, even Nasu himself admitted that the converse was true. He originally intended to make the Normal End the true end, but he realised that it simply didn't fit with the flow of the story. After everything Shirou did and sacrificed, a happy ending was by far the best option. Otherwise the whole story was just pointless.

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2013, 03:15:17 AM »
You need to learn to read. Tone is not the same as theme. And hf "true" is straight mood whiplash, and nasu's thematic growing up bs is intrusive and makes the characters as he wants us to see them unpalatable assholes.

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2013, 03:26:43 AM »
How is HF True "mood whiplash", any more so than any other example of someone getting a happy ending out of a shitty situation?

Also, what do you mean by "thematic growing up bs"?

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2013, 03:36:55 AM »
Hf sails into darkness, murders most of the cast and all while a comedy of forced errors plays out to allow the story to proceed culminating in a super mega ultra happy ending with ass pulls and a time skip to ignore the fallout of the war. Mood whiplash, hf in two words.  Nasu stated in an interview that fsn he wanted viewed as the stages of growing up from kid to adult with hf being the adult stage which is also why he made the epilogue a part of hf, we are supposed to view by his account hf as the mature intended characters  which I find bullshit of the highest order. Not only are the characters in hf largely insufferable after the previous two routes but also it makes people feel like they wasted their time with the novel as a whole.

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2013, 04:39:30 AM »
Personally I have grown to like Zelretch's character, he is a figure of many traits and skills. Although he may drive the Clocktower up-the-wall-across-the-ceiling-down-the-other-wall-and-back-up-the-first-wall-all-over-again with his antics, you can't deny his presence when he appears in your vicinity nor can you deny his strength. That and despite his origins, he is practically the badass grandfather we'd all wish for [not to say we aren't content with our existing grandfathers, living and deceased].
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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2013, 01:24:35 AM »
Hmm, that's definitely an unusual pick. I'm not sure how much real characterisation Zelretch has. I guess he's not bad at all, though. After all, he's still basically a good guy, albeit an insane one....

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Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2013, 03:13:01 AM »
Hmm, that's definitely an unusual pick. I'm not sure how much real characterisation Zelretch has. I guess he's not bad at all, though. After all, he's still basically a good guy, albeit an insane one....
Very true but at least he is a good guy, so to speak
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